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Soferdig wrote: I have revived my need to rough it and I have to say with a good pad and sleeping bag, Tenting is not so bad. I have stopped it for the last few years cause my DW has RA and she can't anymore. But I still need to hear that sound of an unknown creature chewing, walking, growling, eating, outside the thin walls of an isolated camp tent. I remember many worrisome times but now after many years in the wild nothing has happened so why worry. I just do what the guy in "never cry wolf" did when the mice were eating him out of house and home. I come out of the tent with a howl that would scare anything but a grizzly away. And if it is one he definitely would have ..... in the woods with that charge. LOL Serenity like this is unprecedented.