perke_patch wrote: Sue this pic is one that Leisa D identified for me when it flowered. it is nid innocentii var paxianum which she had photographed in a botanical garde in Germany when she was there. she was trawling through photos on her laptop when she was in hospital that last time and came across it. I had posted a pic when it flowered and it didn't look like the other longiflorums we had. I think I gave you a pup of it because of the Leisa link after she died. that is possibly how you came to have it.