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onalee wrote: Seems to me these seeds should germinate, though - as these vines spread easily and quickly here . . . I just don't know the secret to it . . According to Mitjo above, it was no big deal to get them to germinate . . Although, they do put out THOUSANDS of seeds - maybe germination is low? Otherwise we would really be taken over with this vine (almost are now!). I don't know the answer, but certainly would like to find it. It's too cold here now to try these, will try again in late spring . .