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Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 18, 2001
07:18 AM

Post #13734

I was just given some seeds ..labelled Kiss me over the garden gate. Lady said they were very tall..with a flower resembling the butterfly bush flower.
Any ideas?
herbin
Park Hill, OK
(Zone 5b)

September 18, 2001
08:49 AM

Post #129605

they are an amaranthus, don't think they look anything like a butterfly bush.
Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 18, 2001
08:51 AM

Post #129608

Thanks Herbin..
I will plant them next year and just have a surprise.
tiG
Newnan, GA
(Zone 8a)

September 18, 2001
08:55 AM

Post #129610

it's in the database here
http://davesgarden.com/plants/go/780.html
Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 18, 2001
09:05 AM

Post #129618

tiG..now why didn't I think of that?
It looks like a very interesting plant. I will try to grow it..sounds a little tricky but I will try the easy way..put in the ground a few weeks before the last frost date.
Can't wait!
Badseed
Lynchburg, OH
(Zone 6a)

September 18, 2001
09:07 AM

Post #129621

Usually kiss me over the garden gate is Polygonom orientale. Sometimes Amaranthus is also called the same. Both are also called prince's feather. Are your seeds really tiny hard round red dots (Amaranthus) or are they bigger and sort of flattish and a dark burgundy color (Polygonum)? Here is a link to the Polygonum which is the bigger seeds (not a great picture but it was hard to find.) http://www.huis.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~nomura/O/obenit.html
Badseed
Lynchburg, OH
(Zone 6a)

September 18, 2001
09:09 AM

Post #129626

Gee you girls are typing fast this morning! LOL All these weren't here when I started typing and went to find a picture! Should have just asked Poppysue. :)
Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 18, 2001
09:27 AM

Post #129635

Badeed..you are great!
Just as you said..I opened the envelope..and it had the flatish burgundy larger seed..
Thank you thank you.. I love this DG site!
People are so helpful and I am learning all the time..
herbin
Park Hill, OK
(Zone 5b)

September 18, 2001
03:37 PM

Post #129921

Yes, thanks all. People were always asking for "Kiss me over the garden gate" and I thought it was one form of amaranthus. Now I know too.
Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)

September 18, 2001
04:25 PM

Post #129938

Herbin, I think a lot of folks use "Kiss-Me-Over-The-Garden-Gate" (P. orientale) and "Love-Lies-Bleeding" (A. caudatus) interchangeably, although they are two different plants.

But now I have another question for ya'll - I have a plant given to me by a dear friend. She told me it was KMOGG. But it has deep pink "pom-pon" balls of densely packed flowers on it. From the photos I've seen, they don't really look like either KMOGG or Love-Lies-Bleeding. The leaves are large oval shaped. The stem is thick and has ridges similar to 'Prince's Feather' Amaranthus so I'm leaning toward it being related to it.

Any guesses? I don't have a good photo, but I can post one in a week or so if need be.
planman38104
Memphis, TN
(Zone 7a)

September 18, 2001
05:35 PM

Post #129963

Dear Starzz - kiss me over the garden gate is a wonderful heirloom plant but can be very invasive. Just thought I would pass that on.
Elena
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6b)

September 19, 2001
01:12 AM

Post #130293

Dear friend Go_Vols,
I think that you are correct. My latest issue of Birds and Blooms Oct/Nov issue has pictures of the Amaranth which is also known as love lies bleeding or tassel flower. I believe that it is the same as the plants that I have and that I gave you. When I asked for seeds for Kiss Me Over the Garden Gate, that is what the person sent me. I had never questioned it until now. There are more than 60 different species of the Amaranthus family. They include the tumbleweed and common bedding plants like cockscomb.
Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 19, 2001
06:17 AM

Post #130333

Elena..I will look forward to my next issue of Birds & Blooms. I recently received the AugSept issue as a trial. I was blown away by the fabulous pictures in it..no ads..high quality paper...and "real people" gardens shown..questions and answers etc. I immediately sent off for a subscription.

It's amazing what a little simple question on this site produces in the way of interaction and knowledge shared.

I must tell you though..since I have gotten so intrigued by gardening and discovering more unusual plants, I am getting more confused with all the different names one plant can have. Gardening is not for the "weak of heart or mind" Whew!
Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)

September 19, 2001
09:22 AM

Post #130395

(((Hug for Elena))) Good to "see" you here, my friend! Your pass-alongs have done so well for me this year, I brag on you to everyone who admires them. And I had gone blithely through this year, never once thinking about the common or botanical name for this one, until I saw Starzz question and started checking photos.

Starzz, in my humble opinion, this thread is what DG is truly all about. I know there are other similar gardening sites, but I have never gotten the "warm fuzzies" from them like I do here. This truly is a community of farmers and gardeners; 99.99% of whom are warm, caring and sharing in the extreme. (The other small percentage tend to go their own way after a bit, some more graciously than others...)

Case in point, Elena and I met through DG and have traded many plants (well, I got a lot of plants and she got some of the few that I had to give!) We live 30 minutes away from each other, and would probably have never met if it weren't for this site.
Starzz
Newcastle, ON
(Zone 5a)

September 19, 2001
09:46 AM

Post #130411

Wonderful!!!!!
Well said Go Vols
Elena
Nashville, TN
(Zone 6b)

September 19, 2001
09:57 AM

Post #130422

All my plants from Go-Vols are dear to me and I haven't lost a single one. She has given me lots of plants and most of all a friendship that I treasure even more than I do any plants. Thanks to Dave's Garden I think we are most likely friends for life. (Gardening friends, trading friends and friends in Christ. The last is the most important to me if I could rate them.) Starzz, this is the greatest community of wonderful and caring people you are ever going to find anywhere on this earth. There are a few bad apples in any barrel but I personally choose to ignore them and go on with my life undisturbed by their antics. Don't let the names of all the plants discourage you. I have gardened all my life,(I am 65)even as a child with a father who was an agriculture teacher and a mother who loved gardening and I never knew I needed to know Latin (plant names) till Go_Vols and Calalily told me. LOL! I am working at it but am not doing the best in the world. If I can live long enough maybe I will get the hang of the name thingie. I am amazingly successful with raising plants so guess I will just need to start working more on the names.

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