K here we are!! This thread is for Newbie information and questions, No scrambles on this thread...
To get your free seeds
Be Sure to put your dmail name and a note of wants in your envie, along with return name and address
Address exchange is here http://davesgarden.com/address_exchange/
You have to add your information to be able to access everyone else's
Please feel free to Dmail me with questions
Many of us "oldies" and some Newbies would like to share our seeds with those of you new to Dave's. By new, we mean you joined in the last 8 months(or so) and are a paying member.
Send me a SASBE (Self addressed, stamped bubble envelope) and we'll send you 10 packets of seeds. (Usually more, depends on our stash) That's all there is to it. Let us know you are sending your envy. Just Dmail me with sent envie today in the subject. You will get a good variety of good seeds.
If you can, stick a note in your envy and tell me they types of things you like. Veggies and Flowers, some seeds you are looking for, stuff like that. It will help me fill your envy. I can't always get just what you ask for, but will try.
Postage keeps going up so now we need five usually,
Send 5 stamps and an address label with your name on it.
4 of the stamps will go back on your return envy, the extra will go into the "pot" I don't use it for personal use, but it helps when some mail comes with postage due and when the "oldies" send boxes of seeds sometimes there is postage due.
Best thing to do is just send me an empty bubble envy with your label and stamps inside. I can use that same envy to send your seeds back. Saves that envy!!
Also, if you will scotch tape the envy to send to me, I can use the self adhesive and won't destroy your envy pulling them open when I get them.
Please make sure you put enough stamps on your envelope you send to me. An empty bubble envy is at least 84 cents, so two stamps. If you are sending seeds, it's more of course.
PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR D MAIL NAME WITH YOUR ENVY.
I am in the address exchange, so you know where to send the envy. If you can't find it, just d mail and I'll shoot it right to you. At the top of your home page, you'll see the link "EXTRA'S" ,Go into that link, scroll down and you'll see the address exchange this goes to the exchange http://davesgarden.com/address_exchange/ you have to add yourself to the exchange then you can get my address.
Oldies! lol If you would like to donate seeds, it would be great.!! I know how much I loved it when I was new and someone sent me seeds to get me started. Now I want to pay it forward and maybe you would too.
For those of you who would like to help the newbies, but just don't have a lot of seed, if you would like to trade for seeds, that is great as well. Send seeds for the newbies and I will send you the same amount back. Put a note in with your DG name and let me know what you are looking for also.
Happy Gardening Everyone,
Be sure to check out the newest newbie games...Word Scrambles...Winners every week... Great Plants are being won every Week!!
Is my d mail name my login as in Cocolobahouse? still finding my way around this huge site. I cannot sent SAE because stamps outside US will not work. I can however send th jiffy bags. I have a lot of Macranthum seeds, anybody want?
Your dmail name would be cocoloba. I'm sure Arejay has out of country Newbies and finds a way to get them their seed pack. You can dmail Arejay59 by clicking on arejay59. She'll see this tomorrow and probably dmail you. So watch for that at the top of the page when you log into Dave's.
Difficulty: EasyInstructionsThings You'll Need:
Beneficial plant list, to attract "good" bugs. It is extensive, so seed list will follow.
Insecticide- to kill existing bugs: Ivory Soap, two cups of water, 1/4 cup corn oil.
Preventative plant list, also to follow, no special instructions
Step 1http://www.zinkwazi.com/blog/index.php?showimage=773Put in plants from the following list to ATTRACT BENEFICIAL insects (preventative plants are listed below).
To attract ladybugs which eat aphids: parsley, wild buckwheat, white sweet clover, tansy, sweet fennel, sweet alyssum, spearmint, Queen Anne's lace, hairy vetch, flowering buckwheat, crimson clover, cowpeas, common knotweed, caraway and black locust.
Marigolds also attract hover flies.
Sunflowers attract aphids AWAY from other plants and are hearty enough to withstand them.
Dill attracts aphid predators and parasites.
Asters attract Honeybees and Ichneumonid wasps.
Step 3Insecticide: Put one bar of Ivory Soap into the two cups of water and let it sit till the soap dissolves.
Separate what's left of the solids and discard.
Mix with the corn oil in a spray bottle.
Apply to whole plant, including the tops and bottoms of the leaves.
Step 4Put in plants from the following List to PREVENT harmful insects. Simply scatter them among the existing plants, or set them in a border around the perimeter of your garden. Different people recommend different methods. Some plants attract harmful insects, so you may want to plant them somewhat separate from your garden.
Step 5Plant mint, marigolds, borage, garlic and basil (yum!) to keep out a general host of bugs. More specifically:
Interplant Radish in your rows to keep away Striped Cucumber Beetle and Root-knot nematodes.
Japanese beetles are repelled by chrysanthemums, chives and catnip
Nasturtium repels Colorado Potato Beetle.
I Just googled (plants that repel bugs) there were lots of them to read..
This is Another..pretty much the same
Fresh garlic planted in the vegetable garden repels aphids and Japanese beetles. Moles and mice will not eat your onions if you plant garlic among the onion plants.
Plant a clove of unpeeled garlic at regular intervals by pushing the large end of the clove into the dirt with the pointed end just under the surface of the soil.
When the garlic blooms, harvest the fresh garlic for household use and replant another clove for continuous protection.
Chives and Leeks
Consider chives and leeks to repel the carrot fly. Carrot flies do not just attack carrots. These are easy plants to use and they will improve the garden health as well.
The tomato worm will scurry away if you plant borage and tomato plants together. Borage is a starflower and an annual herb. Use it to flavor foods while cooking as well.
Slugs will not go near spinach. So, plant spinach anywhere you can. Use the fresh spinach leaves in salads.
Mint and rosemary, when planted in the vegetable or flower garden, discourage insects from laying eggs. The cabbage moth, in particular, will no longer be a problem.
Thyme plants repel cabbageworms. This is an herb as well; simply pinch some fresh leaves when desired for cooking.
Tansy and Mint
Tansy, an herb, keeps mosquitoes and beetles away. Plant tansy in the garden or in containers on the deck and windowsills. Achieve the same effect by planting tansy indoors.
Mint and tansy planted together keeps ants at bay. Plant these herbs indoors or out. Place the plants near a windowsill or an entrance that ants use.
Many gardeners use marigolds in the vegetable garden in addition to the flower garden to deter insects and bugs. Japanese beetles and nematodes will not be around to cause damage to your plants if marigolds are planted nearby.
Insect Resistant Plants
Buy new plants that are insect resistant. Many plants are now hybrids with natural resistance qualities in the plant itself.
Using natural plants, insect-resistant plants and herbs, is a win-win situation for you. You will have fewer bugs to fight and you will now have fresh herbs for the dinner table.
I'm making a spreadsheet to keep track of all of the seeds that I'm going to plant; what they are, colors, heights, when in bloom, etc.. My DH is laughing at me. Have I gone overboard? How do you guys keep track of everything?
LollyJean I did start one this past spring even figured out how to get it to calculate the sow indoors date and last date to sow for a fall crop. I just play with it off and on to bug one of my brothers in law. By the way Robin, he just laughed his head off when I told him my way was simpler than what he told me to do. Poor man is a technical nut and likes to do it the hard way. I'm too well trained in efficency to do it that way LOL.
OH Coco Thank You I was just looking for you. I thought you were lost and poof there you are. I have not recieved them yet but I have gooten things from countries other than yours and found that it cometimes takes 20 to 30 days. I will continue to hope. Good to hear from you.
Thanks for the heads up on the compost article. We are composting for the first time and yes, we did put weeds in the pile with all the tomato skins from the tomatoes I canned over the past 2 weeks. I could just scream.
Also, is the offer of seeds for newbies still available? While a newbie to this site my hollyhocks and hibiscus have been abundant seeders this year. I could certainly add to the stash if needed.
Well I've read that when chickens eat tomato seeds then you compost their waste and use it in your garden a couple years later you're likely to see tomatoes come up. You can always try a few done that way and see what happens.
Welcome Lemkegarden and mollymistsmith. I will be watching for your envie and not late Tami just the right time. I want to thank Barb from Fate Texas for the seed also. So nice of you. I would send you a dmail if I knew your dg name...so thank you.
So I think I have figured out the trade business. I would like some flower seeds or herb seeds. This may take all day to figure out the whole map-Need a GPS. I will send a SASBE soon. If I need to do anything else let me know.
I would like to include seeds for your newbie give aways. My Lupine has gone crazy this year. I also have Colombine seeds. Will include details with what I send
Thank you Mindy. Nice to know someone is close for me to talk garden with.
Robin, your envie will go out in the mail Monday. Already got it made out. I am also going to try some of the strawbale gardening that Kent wrote about. As I have a bad back it may help with my gardening.
I received my package of seeds yesterday. I have so many different types of veggies for my spring garden. Thank you so much for helping me out. Between your pack and butterflychaser, I will have beautiful flowers and plenty of fresh food from my own garden to enjoy.
Found you!! Ha - I feel so "smart" today. My envy goes out today for my newbie seed - I am so excited!! I am sending along some extra postage for your "pot" - my very small contribution to paying it forward.
Ok, one of those days!!
Exhausted from a LONG day in everyones garden but mine. Typed up the details here, decided it belonged in my blog. Copy, paste - crap, Trina's addy from where I sent her my envy earlier today.
Oh well - I will type it up in my blog again later - right now I need a shower!
Semd that envie in LInda. You are a newbie for 8 months after becoming a paying subscriber. Arejay has all kinds of seeds waiting to send out. Be sure to let her know what you like and colors. And welcome to Dave's
Hi Julie - I am new too, but if you will look up arejay59's address, she can hook you up! Or drop her a dmail - she is sending mine as we speak.. I am so excited, can't wait to get them!!
Oh, you find the addresses under extras at the top of your home page. Shoot me a dmail if you need more help.
I am an old newbie, but now that I don't work anymore, I am hoping to do some gardening. I went looking for info on
a plant that was given to me by a very dear friend who passed away before she could tell me about it! Looking thru
your plants, it looks llike an hoya compacta. It is just one strand (?) that's very curly and I have it in water. It has
plenty of roots, so WHAT do I do now? Also i'm not very good at working computers !! LOL
I'm in 9a, but I'm also in the desert - lol. We have a very unique growing situation here.
Seed starting can be done in many ways. Personally, I prefer to direct sow seeds based on the planting calendar for my area. Lots of people use peat pellets. You can also use a sterile seed starting mix like Jiffy - you can get it at all the big box stores. Whatever medium you use I would suggest mixing a dash of cinnamon with your mix before planting. That's a trick I learned from LazLo that really helps to prevent damping off of your seedlings. There is a seed germination forum where you can get specific questions answered:
OK, arejay, you have an envelope headed your way on Wednesday. I have some Heliconia psittacorum in there for you to add to the stash for others. Looking for tropical, tropical, tropicals! Why not take advantage of living in Fla?
anyhoo... I've got a bunch of seeds... and once i'm done with the Piggy Swap, i'll send off to you some seed packs. Most are all ready baggied up.. though one will be in bulk, but i made labels for them.
AreJay59 sent me over to introduce myself and join in the wild and crazy fun. I am a newbie. Went wild collecting seeds this year; my own, friends, by the library, you name it. I just renewed my Daves Garden membership today, so want to connect. Tell me what keeps you guys connected? How can I contribute to the wellbeing of this seedie group?
Thanks for the welcome Arejay59. I see you are a Maine-ah too. I am off to Ellsworth Feed for a few seed starting supplies, and will stop and get bubble wrap envelopes and stamps.
This looks like a great place - everyone is friendly and polite! I have dipped my toes into a couple of threads and was wondering how to branch out and explore more. By the way the garden watchdog has saved me money already. Phew that was a close call - was going to send an order to a mail order that had consistently bad reviews. THANKS!
Mint Nettie does overtake in some places. I love all mints and try to find a new one every year!! I plant them where I can smell them best!! If they get to big give it a yank and cut and trade!! Ledge you have met Al? He is great and loves sunflowers!!
Everyone seed packages are back in return mail!!
\First blossom of the year here!! Yeay!!
We have no blooms, I have no mint and it snowed about a foot and still coming down. Guess I will sit here and be depressed. 28 out there - it was 60 at this time yesterday - what the heck - tease a girl with warm weather then blizzard - not fair!!!
Jar, I had a thought last night - do you have an Oklahoma Rose Rock? How about a selenite crystal - those I know I can get this spring - they won't open the park until April 15, but I can go dig you some after that. This link gives you a little interesting info on the crystals. http://www.fws.gov/southwest/refuges/oklahoma/saltplains/selenite.html
you never know what the formation will be from year to year. Some years you can get clusters, some years perfect hour glass, sometimes, they are short and fat and not perfectly formed. It is a crap shoot but interesting none the less. The park is only 45 minutes from the house - it was closed for a couple of years, some boy scouts found vials of chemicals and the whole park had to be checked over. In the 40's they burried stuff like mustard gas out there and blew them up...well here is an article http://enidnews.com/localnews/x518668675/Officials-speculate-chemical-at-Salt-Plains-could-be-mustard-gas
Ok, enough fun facts on Oklahoma. You guys have a great day.
Hi, I was a newbie last year and didn't know a seed from a pebble. Now I am growing trays of seed thanks to all the help I got from "the oldies". Thanks for all the seeds in the newbie pack, and all the friends who traded seeds and advice!
Mechelle are you sure that came from me LOL I remember sending someone daylilys but I never knew what color or their names were since they came from someone else who didn't tag them. Very pretty though. Mine aren't growing much too cool or something here I think.
Shoulda known better Mekos. ;-) Remember the list you sent me when I won your auction that time? I saw on there that you had sent me a red lily bulb. I still had that paper in my seed box! lol .. Well thank you, it's beautiful. I guess it's not "Shiraz".. do you know the name of it?
I know it is an oriental lily but not sure what the exact name is, sorry. Until I came here I never kept names of stuff, just planted it. I've had those for several years. My other orange one is blooming now, will try for a picture later when stinker goes to sleep.
Have a great day you guys, will check back later.
Here is a pot I brought in a couple days ago to set by the computer. Smells good.
My stuff don't always bloom all at the same time and none too many at the same area either. They are mostly scattered here and there. Lots are under the greenhouse covering in pots and lots under the shade trees in pots and lots around the ponds in ground and so ya see, pictures have to be here and there and lots of pictures to be able to see stuff. Tireing to try to get them all on here when you have to do it one at a time. My big gerber daisies are getting eaten by a big fat green worm. It eats ALL the color all the way around the bloom and all that is left is the green center. Grumbling here. Lots of bugs and snails eating everything down. Got some chrystanthimums (spelling not good)trying to bloom, but most are shedding off. My red hot pokers are blooming and the orchid primrose are in bloom. My green/yellow pokers are not ready yet, and the red false yucca not blooming yet. Those are for later on. None of my castor beans are up yet but still early for those also and my double confederate rose is sprouted and bushing out now so maybe blooms later. The datura -moon bush is already sprouted and bushy so I expect blooms soon.
I wasn't able to plant a garden this year but DH planted his pepper plants and I put out 2 tomatoe plants and from the scraps of potatoe peels I buried in the lasagna garden, I got a potatoe growing out there too. Just luck on that one.
Sounds like you have plenty to keep you busy Jan. Wish we lived closer to each other ;-)
Hi Robin ;-) My family is doing great. Courtney is still singing her little heart out and both the girls are out of school for summer. I miss Michael very much.. he moved back out to California a couple months ago. He calls me from time to time and seems to be happy. But I do miss him lots. My In Laws are moving here in about 10 days, so I am excited about that! How about you? How's your family doing? What have you been up to?
THat is great Mechelle!! I am sure you do miss Micheal it will be a warm place to visit and collect seeds!! I have been busy spring cane like a thunderstorm here!! Planting as fast as my digger will go... we have had a wedding and a new Grandbaby all since March that kept things moving and still does and surprise another is on the way!!due date 011011.
I won't be back when they see how I feel about this NEW place they call DG. I'm sorry but I can't justify what they do and stay here. You all have my e-mail if you want to find me and maybe one day we can all be back together on another garden site.
Thank you for speaking your mind Jan. We all need to follow our hearts. You always do.
I would like to share this with all of you and any that dont know me as well. I have made no decisions to go , I am sad and disappointed in the things that are going on. I am sure a solution could be found. I know there are enough of us and enough money for both sides of this fence. I hope a truce is called and a solution is found. There are real human people hurting many of them. I have watched as people go from here to there and here to there. Creating and sharing and growing.
My struggle Bench is here and all of you are welcome. Either side agree or disagree. I enjoy each of you and all of your opinions. I hope the seed I have planted grows and becomes a beautiful , beautiful garden.
Robin(Newbee Momma) http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/notes/robin-brann/my-struggle-bench/428937614807
Im Kristen and a newbie at Dave's Garden. Love it!!! I just started my Hibiscus Hobby and would love to meet other Hibiscus lovers. I am trying my hand at exotic hybrids and trying to make my own babies. I have never done anything like this so we shall see if I have a green thumb! Anyone want to talk? Just drop me a line. Or however this site works, I dont know yet. And what does "we came from here" mean? and Sticky's???
Welcome Blupit We came from here means there's an older thread at the link posted. Stickys are threads with good information in them that someone doesn't want lost in the threads. The Sticky keeps it at the top where it can be found easily.
I got a couple plants and lots of seeds of Hosta, does that count? My hosta is green with white edges outlineing the leaf with lavender blooms. I got lots of mixed seeds and some seeds of blue angel hosta.
Not hard to grow at all. I'll put seeds in the envelope right now before I forget and send them off tomorrow. Toss me your address quick. I always get the 2 of yous mixed up. I'll put in the mixed ones-lots of different kinds , and some of the blue angel.
Never mind on the addy, I found it. Got it all ready to go out the door. You should get a BUNCH of plants from these seeds. One pack has 11 different varieties and one has blue angel. Enjoy. Goodnight all.
Does anyone have any tropical hibiscus seeds? You know, the exotic hybrid ones with the pretty colors. I am looking for some if anyone would like to send. I haven't been able to make my own creations, they are all brand new. Im so new at this hobby, cant wait to get started!
What color is your hardy? I have a beautiful deep red growing in my garden, and supposidly a white and red that has not peaked his sprouts yet. Bout to give up on that one. But would love some. Would I be able to start them in my greenhouse pot and transplant this year, or would you wait and start them early next spring. We have a short season in CT.
Great talking with ya!
I will shoot you a dmail in the morning and let you know which ones I've got. I would say you could start them in the greenhouse and transplant next late spring. I started a few indoors last fall and over wintered them and traded a couple and planted a couple this spring. We will have to check and see if the ones I have are hardy in your zone. Will dmail you in the morning ;-)
HI Lucy! I could have used her last week. Why didn't I think of her then?!?
Cue, the seeds went out this morning and you should have enough plants to sell and make a small fortune. One pack has 11 different varieties in it mixed together and the other only has blue angel. It has blue leaves.
Hope you enjoy.
Man, this is the onliest place where you can go from 100 degree heat of July to fall cool off of September in a split second????? I musta slept like rumplestiltskin.????
Beam me up scotty, I got to go supervise Mom's house remodeling. Hugs everyone!
Well, we finished the kitchen and now got to do the dining room tomorrowand iffin I survive this, NOBODY could get me to do any of this again at all! My supervising days are done! More work than when I actually did it myself a few years ago. ( o^^o )
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Okay - Summer's over, Wifey's back in school and I'm remodeling and refinishing. Moving lots of furniture to sand and stain old maple flooring. We removed loads of old carpeting and discovered a beautiful maple underlayment but it needs serious refinishing. This is a major project, but I've some spare time now and a couple of big kids to help with the heavy moving.
I think we got inspired after visiting all those old restored houses in Rhode Island, got to quit doing that! Now we're painting and fixing everything.
OH GOSH AL. How long would it take to fly here with them two big boys to move heavy furniture. I think both my sons ruined their backs yesterday. IF I JUST MAKE IT THROUGH TODAY! (I'll be singing ,OH HAPPY DAY!)
OH HAPPY DAY!!! OH HAPPY DAY, I made it home, to wash all the dirt away!
OH HAPPY DAY! OH HAPPY DAY!!! Next time they need this done,
they better hire someone! OH HAPPY DAY! OH HAPPY DAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!
Got to go to bed. It's after midnight for me. 12:18 am now. I'm all worn out. HUGS and will be praying for the baby too. Hope she does great and they won't have to deliver her early.
Miracles do happen!
Not to worry I have gotten pretty good over time I can wrangle down those envies and make them do what I tell them to these days!! Thank You so much Corey !! I love tomatoes...Plain tomatoes,cooked tomatoes tomato sandwiches...I have never met a tomato I didn't love!!
Thats a good question Corey!! I dont know if you can grow tomatoes with out any cooler weather,,,but I would sure try...you could take coolers of ice out like they turn lights on and start little fires to keep things warm in Florida when it gets cold!! Thank you for the invite...I will be over to see what is going on over there...
Just add lard to the hottest...pepper flakes and smooth it on...Im not sure the lack of heat is the problem (sun...maybe) is it sunny there? It is cold here too...as a matter of fact if you look at mapquest we are directly across from each other...here are the tomatoes that are still on the vine
I still have a few tomatoes, too, Robin. My Supersweet 100 cherry tomatoes are over 8' tall and still producing well. I have a few Big Beef still on the vine and edible, but that may change fast if we get a frost within the next week or two.
Do you still have seeds available? I love flowers and herbs. I have always had the regular plants like my mom had: zinnia, geranium, hibiscus, etc. I'm interested in some of the more specific plants that attract hummers and butterflies, and the pretty blooming plants. I would love perinniels, but would like annuals too. My 'want list' just keeps growing! LOL
>> Just add lard to the hottest...pepper flakes and smooth it on...
Thanks, but ... I hope you mean "coat the bulbs" and not "slather lard over top the soil". That makes sense: glue the pepper to the bulbs.
I see Crisco in the cupboard, would that work, or should I look for real lard?
RE: tomatoes & peppers
>> Im not sure the lack of heat is the problem (sun...maybe) is it sunny there?
The "summer" is actually sunny here, just not hot (barely warm by NJ/CT standards). I suspect that coastal WA is both cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter than Maine: prevailing winds come from the Pacific and moderate everything - and dump rain on everything until you get to the mountains ... then its almost "high desert" by comparison.
Far north, but mild. I'm only a few miles from part of Puget Sound.
Not on the bulbs Corey ...I dont think the bulbs would be able to breath...hmm do you put the pepper flakes on the bublbs before you plant them? My squirrels knock on wood are to lazy to dig down for anything they climb the birdfeeders so the lard or yes crisco works for me...
Not on the bulbs though I dont think...
Crit yes still have seeds all kinds.Attracting hummers seems to be the favorite of most!! Look at the first post it will tell you what to do...
Marti that was my plants last year..I started 400 everyone knows the story...I picked maybe 3 tomotoes... THis year I planted two dozen maybe and the one I planted off from everything else in with my hebs as you can see my basil in the picture was the best off all of them I have pick like 12 off it already and three or four more if I am lucky...Soon Al...my yellow cherry tomato plant which I love the fruit of it..I dont know the true name for it..are so delicious..I dont know if the saved seed will work or not but Im going to try!!!
>> Not on the bulbs Corey ...I dont think the bulbs would be able to breath...hmm do you put the pepper flakes on the bublbs before you plant them?
This is my first time planting bulbs, ever. As a kid, Mom did the planting and I did the digging, mowing and unskilled weeding.
Are you saying to actually smear lard or Crisco on top of the soil? The squirrels and I are both going "EWWWWW!" (But whatever works ...)
I've just been told elsewhere that cats or squirrels may touch pepper flakes with their paws, then rub their eyes ... then scratch their own eyes out trying to get rid of the burn. I think I've heard "scatter pepper to repel pests" a few hundred times, but that was the first time I heard "scratch their own eyes out"
I mentioned that I was trying to protect bulbs from squirrels with chicken wire netting.
Since they can chew through it or burrow under it when motivated, I now have a second line of defense. Flakes of red "Szechuan-looking" hot pepper are sprinkled beneath the chicken wire. Also, under the netting, I sprinkled some "Guajillo Molido" chili-powder that has a strong unusual odor. Hopefully the odor will de-motivate them from chewing through the netting, and the netting and flakes will keep them from getting the damp powder on their paws. And if they can't smell the bulbs, maybe they won't try.
And these aren't "cyto-toxic-level" peppers. To be humane, I tested them on myself first.
No squirrels were harmed in the making of this mac-n-cheese.
BTW - next time I won't try to make one big chicken-wire box-cage over a bed, espeically if the bed is too wide for the roll of chicken netting. But I stumbled on an alternate design when used a left-over 18" strip to cover a different, small area.
Letting the hex netting keep the curl it has on the roll, straightening it only part way, it forms a very natural hoop-tunnel as long as the width of the roll (4 feet). he edges dig into the soil, "gripping" it with the spring left in the wire. The ends to be sealed against squirrels are now fairly small, instead of the entire circumference of the bed. The center holds itself up in the air, away from any plants.
Although the width of this half-hoop-shaped tunnel is only 12", I think a 2 - 2.5 foot wide tunnel would still support it's roof. Then I could run as many 2' wide tunnels alongisde each otehr as I needed to protect.
Thast may even be a design for a very low profile "hoop house" or row cover. Film over the chicken-wire netting, held down with poles or rocks between the rows. Hmm.
The best part is that no framework needs to be constructed, not even bent PVC pipe and stakes.
Here's the non-hoop bed. Until the edges are fully weighted down around the whole circumference, it won't keep squirrels out.
Unless the neighborhood cats see a squirrel UNDER a 4' x 5.5' sheet of chicken wire that's basically lying on the ground. They may realize it can't get away very fast and jump on it, and play chicken-wire trampoline on top of the squirrel.
THat looks like it should keep the squirrels out!! You must have some determined squirrels!! I think with that,looking at itI might just take out the pam and spray it the top and sprinkle the flakes,here are a few other things suggested too...Squirrel Control
1. Bulbs: soak them in Ropel before planting and squirrels will leave them alone. You can also dust them with medicated baby powder.
2. Put sheet metal collars on trees to keep them from climbing the trunks. Prune back any access limbs also.
3. To keep squirrels from the bird feeders in winter try growing witch hazel, Hamamelis virginiana. It can be grown in the East and Midwest. They grow underneath trees and can continue blooming into December. The flowers form a seed pod that will eventually shoot out the seeds on the ground which supplies squirrels with some winter forage.
4. Sprinkle pepper or paprika around squirrel prone areas.
5. Using any type of "sticky barrier" can be effective as the squirrels' hate the sticky feeling on their paws.
6. For pole type bird feeders: grease the pole with petroleum jelly. They will get the message pretty quick and go elsewhere for goodies.
7. Learn to get along with them. We have squirrels who do get into the bird feeders but in general cause no trouble at all! In 15 years they have dug up some bulbs one time and that is it!
8. Plant Fritillaria imperialis bulbs in the area of plants that you want to protect. Supposedly they have a particular smell that squirrels and chipmunks find repulsive. They are certainly beautiful plants and a great addition to your garden!
9. Beware that water features will attract squirrels and chipmunks too!
10. To keep squirrels and chipmunks from bulb plants- soak them in Alum water before planting.
BTW I got the package!! What a great assortment!! THank you..You know I could package up a couple of the stray cats I feed here they will give those squirrels something else to do!!
Glad you liked the seeds! Now that I've found Dave's Garden for trading, I'll be collecting larger quantites and giving fewer away locally, where I think they never got used.
I like the idea about spraying the wire with Pam, then sprinkling pepper flakes. Maybe even hairspray.
I'll have to think about a "sticky barrier".
We have many cats in the park where I live, but they seem to be lazy when it comes to chasing squirrels.
I'm not sure what alum water is, or Ropel (I assume a commercial product).
When I find "Liquid Fence" in a store, I'll give that a try.
One thing for sure: the wire and pepper have prevented the lazy local cats from using these beds as litterboxes! Usually they are cratered and pock-marked with "gifts" within a day of my turning and raking them.
BTW: I did some research since buying the peppers and chili powders. Except for the few Habaneros I'm drying, they are all pretty wimpy!
1. Usually small hot peppers are hotter than large hot peppers.
2. The 1/2 pound of big ones I bought are probably California or "Anaheim" or "chile seco del norte" chilis -
the mildest variety of chili peppers (500-2,500 Scovil units).
3. Guajillo chilis and "New Mexico" style chilis are only a little hotter than Anaheim California chiles
(up to 2,500 to 5,000)
4. Chili peppers average only 1/10th as hot as simple cayenne peppers!
Cayenne peppers and Tabasco peppers rate 30,000 to 50,000 Scovile units.
Tabsco Sauce (™) is diluted, since one chef's site lists it as only 5,000. I bet powdered "cayenne pepper" as sold in Safeway is cut with something, or it would have liability labels.
5. "Serious" peppers are things like Thai, Habanero or Scotch Bonnet (100,000 - 350,000).
Possibly the skinny red chilis I bought a 1/2 pound of are "Thai". I always thought they were "Szechuan" but apparently not.
Red Savina(™) Habaneros have 580,000 Scovil units. (I think that is 4% Capsaicin.)
6. Naga chilis from Assam, India, are said to be "the hottest peppers grown". They rate a smoking 850,000 to 1 million.
I just know that when I went out to lunch with our Indian contractors at a restaurant they approved of, "two stars" out of five made me flinch, howl, sweat and drip tears..
7.. Civilian pepper spray is around 2 million, and LE grade pepper spray around 5 million. Those are 12-33% Capsaicin. These are banned for use in war!
And yet, that's a mere 2-5 times hotter than Naga chilis or 50-125 times hotter than pure cayenne or Tabasco pepper.
8. During some crusade, the defenders had access to many aromatic spices, and the attackers had been on short dull rations for some time. By cooking aromatic dishes on the battlements, upwind of the Christians, the defenders tempted the hungry attackers into launching their assault before they were ready, and defeated them decisively.
8. Pure Capsaicin is 15 million. The American Spice Traders Association (ASTA) suggests converting from parts per million of Capsaicin to Scoville Heat Units by multiplying by 15.
Thanks - that sprayer is exactly what I want, but for $50, I would buy 50 cubic feet of composted manure instead, and keep sprinkling flakes and if necessary re-planting bulbs.
Also thanks for that Parks link ... it turns out that in this context "Mole" refers to various Mexican "Mole Sauces" and not ways to repel burrowing mammals.
But I have lots of (I guess) hot Thai Chili seeds. And the mostly-dried Thai peppers are only around $6 per pound in season. And if I fel the need to escalate, I can save or buy Habanero seeds, or even Naga seeds, but much hotter than Thai chili might be animal cruelty.
Would you be interested in an old farmers trick to keep the varmits away? I've done it myself on my tomatoes and peppers, and it really does work!
Lay human hair around the plants. Strands, clippings, whatever. I save it out of my brush all winter then use it in the spring. Also, you can ask your hairdresser to give you your trims, and to save some for you. They usually will. The squirrels won't go near it because it smells like human. I put it around my baby tomato and pepper plants, then when they start to grow, put it on the plant itself near where the fruits are setting. I feed the squirrels in my yard and when they run out, they attack my bird feeders, but they didn't TOUCH my veggie plants. Give it a try.
My husband laughs at me, but doesn't tease me as much since he saw it worked!
There are several old farm tips that I know that he thinks I'm silly, until he hears someone else say it or sees for himself it works. I lived on a farm for 25 years with my first husband. Gotta learn a little sumpin'.
human hair is also a wonderful deteraint for slugs & snails, too!! I have a mini trashcan in my bathroom that my daughter & I put our hair in from the hairbrushes. About once a week, I'll spread it around the tender plants that the slugs love so much...next morning, I find them all shriveled up...it dries them out.
Nothing like that very first bubble envelope chock full of seeds to get you super excited about gardening! When I first joined DG, I had stumbled on it by accident, looking for information on which flowers to attract butterflies, it wasnt long before I became a seed addict. I blame Arejay... it's all HER fault... hehehe
I have to agree with cue. Starting with a blank slate at the house we just moved to, I am so excited to plant the seeds I got from rj, and the trades I have been making! My horses may lose part of their pasture so I can plant more plants! LOL
THats the thing Marti and 12 stepper I know and I know a couple!! They dont want it either its not about want anymore it gets to a need kind of thing...I am thinking it would take having no other choice for anyone of us to give up saving seed!! Even stealing it from the neighbors dead flowers doesnt stop us !!There is another seed saver only we called it addicts thread somewhere here you have to read some of the stories!!
Cue knows one or two of the stories are you here Cue??? Oh by the way Cue I heard you were playing the clarinet wearing black gloves ????
BUT I got acres of them bushy tailed things eating all my bulbs up and burying nuts in my flower pots and digging up the plants to do it. Someone said she got cut hair to keep out the varmits so iffin it would work, I'd grab some or cut mine. Whatever it takes. I hate them bushytails right now.
BY the way, Hi Cue. You been playing any musical instruments lately? Found any weird boxes lately? Whistling the alfred hitchcock theme.
I also readthe human hair thing someone on DG. one of the members gathers all the hair from her hairbrushes every week and puts it at the base of the plants the squirrels get to, and she said it keeps them away. wish i could remember where
I have saved my hair all winter out of my hairbrush or after combing it out after washing. IT WORKS!!! The squirells don't like the 'human' smell. Any hairdresser will tell you that it works on varmits. My first husband and my second husband both looked at me like I was "totally, absolutely, put it in the books, CRAZY", until they saw that it worked. I've used it on my tomatoes and peppers, as well as plants and bulbs the bushy tails like to dig up and/or eat. It's an OLD farmers trick used in gardens for many years to keep unwanted guests from partaking of your garden bounty.
Don't scalp yourself mekos... just stop by any salon and ask them if they will gather hair for you for a day.
LOL Thanks Crit. I'll do that. I have lost so many orchids because those horrid creatures dug them out of the hanging pots to the ground in 100 degree weather and they lay on the hot dry ground and dry up before I find them. I finally sent Arejay a box with remaining horrible looking roots to try and save. They dig up my stuff and stick out their tongues and laugh at me. They play right over my bed on top of my roof every morning like they jumping on a trampoline and keep me awake. They have eaten over half of my daffodils and other bulbs, I planted pecans where I wanted my trees to grow a few years ago they MOVED them to the middle of my yard and now I got pecan trees IN my yard not where I wanted them! And the list goes on and on of their constant pranks! Maybe I'll visit every hair place in SC and get all I can.
LOL mekos. My husband teased me because I would put hair up on the tomato plants where the tomato's were growing. He would say ... your tomato's need a haircut. LOL I made a ring around each plant as I planted them, then put it on the branches as they grew up.
Hope it works for you as well as it has worked for me! I had squirrels all over the place. I have a little feeder you put one ear of corn on, as well as bird feeders. (they think they are birds and 'raid' the bird feeders too) I even put a rubber pan out in the pasture with corn chop in it to try and keep them out of the yard. But they NEVER bothered the plants with hair! I wonder if I put hair on the bird feeders if it would keep them away, but not deter the birds? Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmmmmmm".
>> an entire spare room devoted to all things seeds...
This is kind of like a crazy project I've been on at work ... every day I would say "it CAN'T get any worse!". And every day, it did. I see this condition can progress to hither-to-fore unimagined heights or depths.
Speaking of depths, this "seed BUILDING" is 390 feet inside a mountain 810 miles from the North Pole, on the Norwegian island "Spitsbergen". The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is 479 feet long and has room for 4.5 million different seed samples totalling 2 billion seeds.
It already has more than 400,000 seed samples. The first seed shipment to it contained 100 million seeds weighing 10 tons. It was partly funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
I probably dont have that many seeds...probably...
Oh ok Jan I was afraid it was in your backyard and you were going out plant hunting for me and I was going to say nevermind I dont need plants that badly!!
Hahaha, not hardly but there are bears around in the woods passing through. We see tracks sometimes in the summer. Also have big boar hogs that stray around there till I go tell hunters to come get em. Them things dig up my woods and eat the roots off the trees and will get you if you happen to wander out there when they are eating. No worries, DH always takes the gun when we do go out there and I take the shovel and wheelbarrow to put the plants in.
I am old enough to have watched "that was the week that was" (TW3) way back when. First saw him on there. Fan ever since. Masochism tango, poisoning pigeons, dropping bombs and all. love the periodic table, fell out when it was featured on an episode of NCIS
am I ghost hunting by mail??? lol, no... and Ive no idea what all the hooplah about this mysterious package is about...lol. I'm not expecting any packages, Im sooo confuzzled.Going Ghost hunting Saturday night in Flagler Co. 2nd oldest house. a 2 story Victorian built in 1830's. from 9 pm till 4 am... complete with all the techie equipment! caaaant wait!!!
well, that's a possibility... she does have the house to herself when I'm at work. maybe she's become addicted to the home shopping channel now? I'll have to hide the phone when I leave the house from now on ;)
After today I'm sure she will be drinking SOMETHING! Hahahaha
I bet she just wants us to think Lucy is doing it, I bet she just ordering stuff left and right.
What you ordering now Cue with so many big and small boxes out there? The one flying by here was pretty big I thought.
Will someone kindly explain how a "robin" works? What transpires in a robin that has a theme, such as, "Christmas swap", "Beedfeeder Swap", etc? Do the themed ones do these theme items PLUS seeds, or just the theme items?
Round Robin is the term I think you are referring to...it goes around to all participants each one removes what they want and replaces it with what they have already and sends it on to the next one on the list. Sometimes the hostess gets the list of what people want and what they have before the swap starts then as it goes on its route the want lists are filled...
deejay9 is running a Round Robin now, with around 20 members (closed already).
Besides the "put some in, take some out" process, people have been exchanging detailed Have and Want lists. If only small quantities of soemthingh are available, we set aside some seeds into separate envelopes for one individual.
Thus there are big packets "For All" and also on bag full of envelopes containing small packets for indidiuals. Since everyone is receiving huge variety "From All To All", I don't worry as much about asking for seeds from someone I have nothing to offer.
And it saves on postage, since each person might put in many kinds for many people, and take out many kinds from many people.
It seems like a perpetual motion machine, since each person propagates many of the things they receive.
It's my first Round Robin and I'm excited!
Do you know any name for the one-time swap where everyone sends seeds and wish lists and SASE and psotage to one person, who then turns them around and sends back to everyone? Like the Tomato-and-Pepper swap?
It would also be nice to have a special name for what you do: like a clearing house where everyone sends seeds to you, and you send them to New Bees.
I really don't understand why she doesn't like it, but like I said, Its MY garden because I do 100% of the work without help from her so I will plant what I want. Bee Balm is now on my list to get.
I've got to move all my plants from the front yard as we will be having alot of digging going on and our new trailer being moved on between now and next May. As I will be in Calif from April 24 until June 10th, I need to have the yard ready for all the digging they will do for the sewer line, water lines, electric and foundation. If all works out, I will come home to a new home.
I looked at the Round Robin thread but I didn't understand it and figured it was one of those private events that certain people do together.
I agree with you marti001, if you're the one maintaining the garden then it should be your choice. I'm quote fond of the plant and just got some this year, although mine is no where near as red as that beauty posted above.
I second the motion for a Robin for us fledglings (..or would we be 'seedlings'?) even if its just gobs of simple stuff like cleome, cosmos, marigolds, etc. I still get wildly excited over *any* seeds.
buddleia grown from seed (note: butterfly NOT grown from seed)--:
OK Lets see if we can get 10-12 names that would like to kick in and see if Robin wants to start it off. If not I will, so be thinking of what you'd like to see in the swap, while we wait to see if Arejay wants to get us hopping. Two thumbs up! If more people will sign up to do it, I think it will be fun on a small level to see how it goes. I'm in.
OK If you are interested in doing the seed round robin, D-mail me with round robin in the subject line and give me your name and address info.Tell me maybe 1 or 2 kinds of seeds you would like. When we get 10-12 people wanting to do it, I'll d-mail you all telling you it is started and what order it will be coming. I'll make address labels and include them in the box so you pick one that is left in there to send it to next. Take out up to 5 packs and put back same amount as you take out.My address label will be in there also but make it last and I'll send it on to Robin. So all the other names will be used going around.Sound like a plan?
First 12 names I get will be included. GO!
Great Marti, got you down. We still need 3 more. Thanks and send me your name and address info with a few seeds you would like to see in there please. I'm making the address labels for everyone to use to ship it on.
The ones with more seeds I'll get to first, Like first will be Arejay after me, and them DEMinPA, then you and then some of the newbees. I'll try to get the list to have the more experienced seed collectors first up there. Then when it comes to them it should have bunches they would like. I'm trying for a couple more players with experience(or a good seed stash), before starting if you know anyone who would like to join in. I sure do appreciate all you who are playing and hope everyone has a good time.
If anyone else wants in , just send me a d-mail with your info.
OK we got our players rareing to go. Waiting for some seeds being mailed from one to add in the beginning of the box. So it WILL go out Monday morning to Arejay since the seeds should be at her house by then for her to add in. Get ready you little seed grabbers! The piggy box is about to fly!
On another note, one of our older gardening friends has had a tradegy in her family. Toomanyanimals/or toofewanimals Sharon's son died at age 19 and will be burried today.Prayers and warm thoughts of comfort to her and her family!
The marigolds are still bright colors, like the petunias, and the rain has been almost constant. I haven't deadheaded in weeks. I'll pull heads AS they turn brown, (if they turn brown) and see if I can beat the mold to any seeds.
BTW: They turned out as yellows and oranges this year, not really what I would call gold. I spoke from memory of last year, not observation, this year. I do have some randomly mixed marigold seeds from trades.
I don't know if the lack of gold was chance, the seeds themselves, or what. It also seemed, this year, as if the orange were "stragglier" than last year, not as much like big, full softballs, though the yellows came in with some big sphers and some scraggly blooms. I do know that I planted them later than usual this year.
But even though I'm 10 days past what I read as the "50% frost date", 1905-2001, we've had no frosts yet. Even my petuinias are still in color.
We are having sun breaks today! And so little rain that the deck has partly dried off! What a treat!
I have been without pwer for 18 hours and my email was hacked while it was out. Spam was sent to everyone in my email contact list. I am sorry if you are one of the people that were targeted. I think it is fixed now. Please let me know if you are still getting odd advertising emails from me...
Mekos, you're gonna get everyone all excited thinking it's spring when the robin lands - lol...
Robin, I've had my Yahoo account hacked more than once through Facebook - grrrrrrrrr... So I'm constantly changing my passwords for those two accounts. Don't feel bad - last time my friends got ads for Viagra, in Canada;o)
I get random unusual emails from loads of people, unfortunately it's often actually sent by them. I've saved two friends from hackers, mainly because I was the first to receive the spammy mail. Hope it gets all cleared up arejay.
Glad to hear the Robin is out! I'd be so much more excited about this if I didn't have the sinus headache from hell.
i know what you are going through. my daughter was hacked through facebook and had porn emails sent to all her church contacts. did she learn? no. opened a new facebook account and it happened again. fortunately it is getting so common that people see one now and say, oh, hacked again.
>> No fingers = no cyber-stalking.
>> Hammurabi's code
>> I would either snip down the side and open it up or cut it down
>> It was Mit, in the library, with a rhizome!
>> I'm sure glad you guys like me... (Eyes blinking)!
I'm a little less bloodthirsty in person ... like, "a harsh word" is difficult to get out.
When I discovered that my cat hates to be misted with a spray bottle, even that was a struggle for me to inflict. So we've settled on my shaking the sprayer at him while making a "psssst" sound with my lips. He knows he's being "punished" and runs away as if scalded.
Corey, I've found hissing to be more effective than using a sprayer. I've used it on numerous cats and they stop what they are doing right away. It surprises a few neighborhood cats.
For Delilah it's the only thing that works. Water doesn't bug her as she'll jump into the bathtub with my son or climb into the water fountain.
That silly cat will soak his head sopping while trying to lick from a slow drip in the bathtub, or go into the rain until he's one big wet sponge, but HATES being even slightly misted ... even from a tiny perfume-srayer-like-thing.
I agree that hissing works on most cats, being their expression of anger and threat. However, I don't want to convey quite that much anger until the ( usually very cooperative) cat is being obstinant or clearly breaking a more-serious rule, like scratching furniture.
Maybe he perceives the "pretend spray noise" as being a kind of hiss, but if I don't go get the spray bottle and pretend to spray, he just looks at me like "What's yer problem, Dude? Chill out! Like I care!"
The funny thing is that he periodically goes to some trouble to "be naughty" and "get caught". Then he seems satisfied that "I'M BAAAAD" and runs off to put himself in the doghouse or evade punishement, later coming back to "be forgiven" and extra-affectionate. Sin, repent, forgive.
Until I recognized this pattern, he would be disapointed, and escalate his "naughtiness" until i caught on and scolded him.
Sometimes he used to get so frustrated with my failure to recognize that he was a defiant rascal, that he would take even a raised eyebrow as a scolding, and run off as if in fear, as if he had been punished severely. If I couldn't do it right, he would make up for my lack.
Once I figured it out, I created some arbitrary rules that he could easily violate, that I didn't care about, so he could "transgress", be "punished", be "BAAAD", "assert dominance", and then enjoy being forgiven, all without damaging anything, truly annoying me, or having to go to any great effort.
He's very tradition-minded and knows that things must always be done "The Right Way", and that any variation from policy or schedule (by himself or myself) is just WRONG. So when he breaks the rules, he knows how wrong and rascally he is being, and seems to revel in his sins. The sweetie!
He and/or I must be some kind of neurotic. But we do get along well.
I wish Delilah responded to the water bottle. For Keoni he just has to see it to stop. I usually only use those when they are in a real cat fight and fur is flying, or when they are trying to chew something they really shouldn't.
I'm trying to figure out why I've said numerous other cats. I've only use it on my two cats and an outdoor kitty who was crushing a plant I was trying to bring home.
Purple Wander Jew ... last chance if anyone wants starts of this. It is going to be 32 or below for several nights starting Saturday. I will be letting these little babies die off if no one wants them. If you are interested, please d-mail me.
Me too. But if things don't change by election time, a few are gonna be shocked at what happens next!
Glad the Robin landed. Did I forget anything? If so please fix it.
Did the seeds from the benefactor arrive yet Arejay? She was shipping to you since it was coming to you first and last.
No extra seed packet yet..soon I am sure.. There is someone else that there package hasnt arrived yet too maybe the mail lady has decided to plant now with our seed before she cant...
I think if Jan is going to have a party we better make a new thread...dont get lost...If you cant find us come back here and post or send me a dmail and Ill come find you and get you to the new thread...Morning Cue...how are you?
Hmm...what a coincidence you mention punkin' pies---I just made my first of the season yesterday using my ooooohhhh-so-lovely homegrown heirloom Long Island Cheese pumpkins and its was divine---so much better than using regular pumpkin. I think I'll have some pie for breakfast...
If you've never used Long Island Cheese for pie, DO IT---I did not like pumpkin pie until I tried it with this variety. Now I just have to make up for the 35 years of not eating pumpkin pie!!! ;)
I'm drooling here! COME BACK!!!
Arejay is known for making pumpkin pies and all the mail carriers go to her house for pies and forget to deliver us the seed packages till they finish off all the pies. (tapping foot here)
1/2 cup packed golden brown sugar
1/3 cup sugar
2 TBSPs all-purpose flour
1/2 tsp salt
1 tsp ground cinnamon
1/8 tsp ground allspice
1/4 tsp ground cloves
1/4 tsp ground ginger
1/4-to-1/2 tsp vanilla
1 1/2 cup Long Island Cheese pumpkin (steamed 30 mins, skinned, & pureed)
4 large eggs (*room temperature is best)
1 cup whipping cream
pie crust (either one deep dish or two reg-size)
optional: chopped pecans (see note below)
*get 4 eggs out to bring to room temp well in advance. preheat oven to 325F. Whisk first nine ingredients in med-large bowl (brown sugar / reg. sugar / flour / salt / cinnamon / allspice / cloves / ground ginger / vanilla). Once blended, mix in the pumpkin, then the eggs, and lastly the cream. mixture will be quite runny! Pour mixture into pie crusts and back ~40 mins, or until sides "puff" and center is just set. (It consistently takes 45-50 mins for mine to bake but ovens do vary...!)
This recipe was adapted from "Spiced Pumpkin Pie" in '98 Bon Appetit. I've cut the sugar down from original b/c Long Island Cheese pumpkin seems to be a bit sweeter than reg. pumpkin types. B/c I love pecans, I usually add a generous handful of chopped pecans to the top as I'm putting the pies into the oven. Pie is still quite devine without!
I have never liked pumpkin pies until I tried the Long Island Cheese pumpkin as a base. If you can't get a Long Island Cheese pumpkin, try other varieties with the above recipe--the taste changes are dramatically different, usually for the better!
After stumbling upon my first Long Island Cheese pumpkin last summer at a farmers market in---you guessed it---Long Island, I made space to try one this year in my garden. For an heirloom, this variety was VERY prolific and hardy, gave me three huge pumpkins from a single plant which rivalled only my butternut in production. Of all the winter squash i grew this year (50-50% heirloom-hybrid) the Long Island Cheese pumpkin was far and away the most resistant to late mildew. This pumpkin did mature late, almost to the first frost date here in 6a, even with starting it 4 weeks indoors under lights so it was tight to get it mature in a zone 6 garden---Long Island is mostly zone 7 so I guess that makes sense!
Kerry, that sounds devine. When you kill another pumpkin to bake it, can you save some seeds from it for US so we can grow one also? I'd love to give it a try. I've never seen any of those around here.
Sure! Im new to seed saving, and these were OP, so is that still worth saving?
I do have commercial seed left, bought this year, abt 17 seeds left. I will only need 4 seeds for next year, so whoever wants them is welcome to the rest. And if the OP pumpkins are worth saving, then I have LOTS!
Is it an heirloom seed or hybride? If heirloom definately keep the seeds, if hybrid, sometimes they don't come true to parent and you might get a surprise. I would love to have just 2-3 seeds, I can plant it in a container next spring and try for a nice big pumpkin for turkey day!
Morning all! just popped in to say hi. Got parents here for the Thanksgiving holiday, so havent been on alot. hope everyone is having a great weekend and if I dont see you before... have a Happy Thanksgiving!!!