Looks great, Dana. Seedlings are great if you have the patience and time and money to care for them while they take their time blooming for the first time! I used to have those things but lost them somewhere along the line! I sent away about 150 seedlings this past December along with a large amount of seed. The seedlings were one- and two-year-olds. I knew that there would be no where for me to plant them or even keep them in containers as they grew. They were sent to a very reliable business with acres and acres to grow them out. I still have about 40 or so that are six-year-olds and a few a bit younger. I'm waiting for about 20 of them to bloom for the first time. They are quite big now. I have a spidery yellow seedling that is sending up an inflo that is around 3 years old, I think.
I'm not sure if this picture will work, but it's a panoramic shot of my seedlings that I took from the upstairs balcony a month or so ago. The top of the picture was cut off though. I have a friend that buys some of my bigger seedlings from me when they bloom with a flower that I don't particularly like so I had made the photo for him. These are all in 15-gallon containers. As you can see in the pictures, there are no compact plumies here. These seedlings are all long and lanky.
Clare don't give me so much hope loI have 100 in 3 gallon pots they are close to 5ft proably 150 in 2 gallon pots another 150 in 1 gallon pots and hundreds in smaller .They have been fun I have had alot of nubs but its starting were I am going to start to get flowers this is were the fun starts. There should be some decent colors . In the next week or 2 I should have pictures of some of mine I am doing heliconias exotic fruits different passifloras from seed to something to do even artichokes lol The few that i did buy paid big money for that were grafted have not flowered yet its been 2 years so i might as well grow my own. Heres my marble love the colors on the new leaves has your ever flowered
LOL, Dana. Sorry if I'm grumpy about seedlings. It's true that they are fun if you don't mind the wait for the first bloom. I'm clearly starting to mind. I almost sold them a couple of times to my friend without waiting to see them bloom for the first time, but then I figured that, since I waited this long, I might as well wait a little longer. I've heard of one guy waiting 20 years for a seedling to bloom! The nubs are frustrating.
It's good to sow seeds every year so that you have a chance to see some new blooms each passing year (about three to five years later). I had one or two seedlings bloom last summer, but they were duds. They'll end up being root stock for something else eventually.
Your Marble is great. Mine got an inflo this past winter but fell off due to the cool conditions.
Uh Clare I got rid of all my lanky, over 50, seedlings...didnt care what the flowers look like, not with the growth habit they had.
Wow Dana sounds like quite the operation...I have about 400 left and they too are finally starting to flower...expect a lot of white and pinks...that's what I have exerienced so far.
Clare I don't pot mine up as fast as you do. room wise I keep them in as small of a pot as I long as I can they are in 3 gallon pots that they are going to bloom in. Other people here that grow seedlings here do the same I have bought them like I need to buy any more 5 ft in 3gallon size. During the summer I have lots of room but winter time when they all get in the green house its going to be tight.
I notice on yours they aren't leafed out is it slow starting with the heat or like Conn. very cool summer? I bought some butterfly gold seed any of them with a huge flower like thats well worth having. And I am done with the seed for years to come there should be flowers coming. :) Like to see this one flower
Hi Davie! That's smart. Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the growth habit of many of my seedlings, but I thought that was just the nature of most seedlings -- other than seeds sown from compact varieties. I don't know if cuttings taken from these seedlings higher up on the tree will have the same growth habit without the tap root. I do have some cuttings of my seedlings that were accidental breakage when I moved so I guess I'll see if I hold on to them.
I've run out of room here so I'm going to plant some of my larger tree seedlings even though I've never seen them flower. If they end up having dud flowers, I'll just use the tips to graft other cultivars onto them.
You do have some nice seedling flowers, Davie. I am looking forward to seeing what you produce in the future.
I think Abigail seedlings are pretty desireable from the hybridizer's standpoint in that they bloom sooner than most seedlings and they stay compact.
Dana, your variegated ones are very pretty. I'm not sowing anymore plumeria seeds either. With my dry climate, 3- and 5-gallon containers end up being too small for my seedlings. They dry out and topple over in the first wind that comes by, and we get wind here just about every day. I've sunk them in the past, but the roots end up growing out the drainage holes, and then I have to cut off the pot when transplanting.
That picture was taken while they were still dormant. They have all their leaves now. Here are three of them below. The one on the right had black tip when it was a baby seedling. Pinching out the black tip created the four main branches that you see on it.
Good Afternoon All, This is my most different from the others. Most of my seedlings are single stalks or stems. I currently have 82 seedlings sprouted. When should I move them up to next size pot? What should next size pot be? They are currently in 8 oz clear plastic cups. I will post another pic so you get a better idea of overall size. Thanks
They look great Evansnana! You've got a lot of work ahead of you! LOL! The should go into one-gallon containers as soon as possible (see pictures for example), and then you can put them into five-gallon containers next spring.
Evansnana you have some healthy looking babies the one you showed first are they connected I have had 2 come from one seed yours looks like you got 3 from one seed! how cool is that. You were lucky not to have what they call damp off The last 5oo I did I had that problem. I usally would buy those peat pellets they work really well never had a problem. But tried to be cheap and used potting soil proably 75 out of 500 rotted at the soil line. belive it or not they rooted in seed starting mix and are doing good just a pain to go threw. The last one for size looks like alot of mine you buy 100 seeds? I always seperate them then you can figure what you have they don't mix them up so much as I would like. Blonde color dark color red color even white seed then you go by size of seed. I do this everytime usally the ones that look the same are from that pod of a certain plant. I think this is the color of yours. I have been repotting for a week now and still have the little ones to do burnt out with it for the time being thanks for sharing :)
I have been waiting on a seedling to open today or tomorrow for sure its dragging it out for me. had to take a sneak peek it has red alone the edge of leaf I always used this for what color flower will be doesn't work. Didn't on hawain flag it would have been a white if this was true the flowers going to be a yellow bright yellow with the edge red as always
very neat I know my camera doesn't cature the true colors in alot of things too. Those are really neat! The branchers I think are going to be compact plants more like a bush which is ok with me. Some of the tips on mine are really black looking not sick just that dark. And some are almost a really dark red. You do the same thing as me crowd them that can be a bad thing rust or anything for that matter once it starts its like a fire no stopping it . I just seperated mine to move up the pot sizes. That is strange about that one with its leaves standing straight up
Here is another odd seedling that is similar to your first picture. I have had seedlings branch at the nodes before, but never as much of a separation from the tip to the first branch. These are a ways down on the main stem.
I had not noticed the branches previously because it was crowded by other plants.
Thats pretty neat too The first picture is actully 2 different plants I have never seen another like it Haven't you ever planted a seed and you get 2 plants from 1 seed thats the case with the first one. But the one grew inside the other weirdest thing I ever saw the out side one flated its self to compensate for the other. Thats right didn't you get 3 plants from one seed? 3 for 1 can't beat that
Even though it appears 'just yellow' now - you need to wait for the subsequent bloom cycles to see what the bloom will look like. It is said not until the third bloom cycle can you be assured that what you have will stay that way.
Jose I have some like that the have leaves are usally red very dark maroon its like its a dye that bleeds into the leaves we will just have to wait and see what it means. Dutch Lady do you mean that these flowers could change that much in a few cycles? To me it is alot of fun watching these things grow specailly the weird ones
Seedlings are not considered 'stable' in their coloration and shape, until the third bloom cycle. There are stories of seedlings starting out white the first year and ending up red by year three. So - persist! and have patience ^_^
Here is another seedling thats just opened up but I didnot catch it when it first did. Yesterday it was white with pink veins almost a pink blush to the yellow. But today it is really faded have to try to catch the next one when it opens
Hello everyone, I enjoy looking at all these different plumeria seedlings. Very nice...:D
I have one that is different from the rest of my seedlings. Just planted it this April 2009 so it's still small. It's in a 4" pot.
taking a closer look at yours its alot like some of mine notice the texture of the leaves not smooth that color pink just keeps popping up and the lines in the stalk very weird. And when I am looking at mine you can tell the branchers by looking for the flatness. its almost like there were 2 that are joined you can see the line in the middle. At the rate yours is going your going to have a cool little bush in no time. Some of the weird ones I have have the same different texure in the leaf it seems as though there changeing look at Clares with all those branches somethings in the water lol
Yes, Dana, you are right. You have to sow thousands of seeds for a few good ones. The key is to start with premium seeds. I think some have found that seeds from average cultivars tend to yield less-than-average flowers. Certain premium named varieties have shown to produce excellent progeny -- for example, Penang Peach, etc. Mixed seeds are a gamble in my view.
Maui Beauty als has some good progeny! Two of my unamed seedlings are really nice and are from MB. Luc also has several cvs from MB.
Here's my first seedling I am keeping. It starts out as sort of a rainbow then develops this HUGE orange center as the flower ages. Flowers are close to 4 inches. I will show the new flower first, followed by older flowers.
I saw Evansnana have a set of triplets w/c I think is pretty neat to have 3 plumerias come out of 1 seed. I wonder how their flowers will look.
I have no triplets but I do have 3 sets of twins. ~_~
Has anyone experienced twins or triplets flower for them? If so, are the flowers similar or very different?
Top View of 3 of my most colored seedlings.
I'm sure I have other colors but these 3 stands out.
One is a pretty green.
The other is very reddish
And another started off with a light set of leaves (that grew that way for some time) with almost whitish color and the other leaves that came out are almost a lime color. It's not malnourished or under watered and the only fertilizer they have had is a lot of worm castings. I just upgraded it to a 6" pot b/c it's growing faster than some of the others (side wards). It's on the chubby side. But as you can see, the whitish leaves are still thriving.
I've never seen more than one plumeria come out of one seed. I think there must have been two or more seeds that were planted and germinated. I don't think it's possible for two or even three trees to come out of one seed. JMHO.
Nope...just one seed per pot.
If you look at Evansnana above Post #6847207 (the 19th posting on this thread going down from the tp) you'll see her seedling. It has 3 coming out. That's how mine looked when it was coming out.
I have had 2 come out of 1 seed The begining of this post was 2 that same from same seed and one grew inside the other. Trust me it happens. As far as the white leaves Clares proably tired of writing this the plant its self is lacking in something this will pass feed it. I have the lime green seedlings too I'm watching this too if a new leaf somes out this color and the leaf gets bigger this color stays the same and never changes might be something to it. Just have to wait and see. I was repotting some today its fun to watch them the difference in colors and growth habits :)
I wonder what my lime green seedling could possibly want. It's already chunky. Has lots of yummy worm castings. Full sun, morning dew...
Lots of Luv and attention...~_~
It is rewarding to watch them grow. This is our first yr. growing from seeds and it's been interesting. So many different characteristics involved...
Do you still have your twins Danasplants? If so, how are they doing? Or did you separate them? Thought of separating my twins at one point but didn't want to chance it. I figure I'll keep them growing together and watch them flower. Way down the road but I can wait.
Interesting. I would separate them and give them their own separate pot so they have the best chance of growing. Even if, when you separate them, most of the roots go with one seedling. The other one will develop roots quickly.
I've rooted teeny tiny seedlings without any problem. I had some seedlings become desiccated at the soil line when they got too dry; so I cut them above the dried part and stuck them back in the soil, and they all took root in no time, and some of these were no bigger than an inch long.
Dana is right: It's a deficiency of some sort -- possibly iron. It will pass.
X4 I have planted over a thousand seeds just this year gulton for punishment lol I have seen all kinds of color verations 3 yrs ago I had the same thing thought I really had some thing new was hopeing beginers luck. No in a yr or 2 you won't evenknow were that one is. . Now the lime green one it might hang in there mine has I am keeping an eye on it. The one with the red stalk you have I have a bunch of those when you get 500 seeds at a time you get more than 10-20 from that pod they give you lots. I seperate the seeds by color and size before I plant them. They usally are color, size are from one pod not good mixes say 50 from that one plant it does work good though that way 50-60 red stalk that many almost all tips black but the seeds that I bought 2- 500 bunches are compact plumeria small rounded leaves. When i first got into this they were huge leaves now there small and more round than pointed. And if you will notice some of them are rust proof they have no rust, keeper for sure just on that fact. I hate rust don't like dealing with it or the expense were the one seedling next to its covered weird. This is one I look forward to blooming every year huge flower this is its first flower this year :)
Good Morning All, I wanted to show you some of my babies now, call it an update if you want. This is one of the reasons I love Dave's Garden, a chance to share our success's and uh-hum, failures. Not to mention all that I've learned from those far more experienced than me. The first one is the above mentioned three from one seed. I try to be very careful when planting. I assure you there was only one seed in the cup at planting. It is from "Salmon Pink" seeds. I didn't realize it was such an oddity. This is my first experience growing plumeria's from seed. I was given a potted plumeria six years ago when we bought our new house. Finally, Finally this year it is about to flower. That is the second and third picture. I also have one of those mentioned that seems to be more white leaved than green. It is from "Purple" seed. It is picture # four. Most come this beautiful solid green, although I wonder what makes his leaves crinkle like that. Any suggestions? And seedling picture # six is a "Mai Thai" Thanks for letting me share- Julia
I look at it this way most of us buy are seeds from ebay from thailand they say there purple ,orange or this or that chances are its a crap shoot. Same as you buy grafted plants from there dirt cheap. Some of us pay decent money some not. These plants might not flower for a couple yrs or more. Whats the chances there going to look like the picture you bought thats why I went crazy with the seeds. There are honest people out there that are gardeners and theres the other peole. All i all its alot of fun just don't expect too much and you will never be disapointed :) The last seeds I bought were butterfly gold seeds this is a very young seedling after I bought these I said no more seeds and I am done I figured any flower thats that big worth it weight in gold love the big flowers. This little guy caught my attention butterfly leaf lol all ready and branching too!
Evensnana...Nice seedlings you have there... We lived in Houston, Tx. Winter of 2007 is when we got our 1st plumeria. Plumerias love the rain there. Catch the water and give it to them babies. They just absolutely grow after each rain storm (all the plants do).
First timer gets a triplet plumeria seedling... That's pretty cool. I got 3 sets of twins. Something for us newbies to remember down the road when we get a few dozen of these occurrences our twins and trips will be in bloom already. Thnx 4 sharing
Here's a picture of the runt in the center, planted the same time as the others. Who knows, it may just take off next spring. ~_~