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I saw this plant for the first time this year, at a neighbor's home, climbing up the side of her brick home. Even w/o blooms, it was impressive.
Anyway, I found them on clearance this week and bought it. Now that I've thought about it, I should have bought a couple of them. Anyway, I am trying to decide where to plant it. I do not have a brick home, but I have a pergola or I can plant it close to a tree that it can climb on.
Please tell me your experience with your climbing hydrangea, likes and dislikes and where you have it.
The link that pirl posted talked about using it as a ground cover. I am thinking I might like to do that in my perennial bed like you are talking about your other hydrangeas Lilli. Would it just grow amongst them? I don't know. Or would it try to climb them?
Not an expert here, only talking about my personal experience. The climbing hydrangeas have those little "feet" like ivy does. They seem to love brick and other non smoooth surfaces that they can attach to. Mine is growing on a regular old stockade fence. Very smooth surface, so I have to help it go up the fence. I am going to send a baby up a pine in the yard, but be forewarned, they can eventually kill a tree. On the otherhand they are slow growing so the death of the tree may be moot considering our own timeline :)...let the grandchildren worry about it.
Yes, I've seen their "little feet" as my friend has it growing up her brick house, on the side of the garage where she doesn't have windows. I was eyeing a pine tree today and it looks pretty tall and I'm thinking how pretty it would be to have one climbing up that pine tree. I tried to dig a hole there but the dirt is not good. I'm going to work on that hole after I wet it down some and then modify the dirt.
I was thinking about your idea on having it climb a tree. Seems the trees that I have are pretty old and are using up all the soil around them. I think I would have to cut thru roots etc. and then the plant probably wouldn't get enough nutrients and water to grow.
yes, all mine are old too but I plant stuff around my trees all the time and I never have any problem with them. When I moved in my house, my front bed had those tall boxwood bushes. Hate them. They were covering up the windows to the front of my house. I have floor to ceiling windows and couldn't see out of them. So I had my husband cut them down to the ground. Of course they came back and we finally digged them out, When I dig in my front bed, there are still roots under there, but I dig those roots out of the hole that I'm planting and modify the bed with some better soil. Now I have some beautiful hydrangeas, ferns, wood poppies, roof iris, bleeding hearts and hostas. They are all growing fine there.
I have mine growing up an old tree. In this pic it's 5 years old. I tried to grow one up a privacy fence and it couldn't climb it because they need a rough surface to cling to and the privacy fence had smooth boards. It grew about 4' high resting against the fence then sprawled 8' to 10' feet out. Because it was taking up a lot of a perennial garden and threatening to devour the rest of it I took it out. But it was so beautiful I started over with a new one planted on the oak. There, it happily climbs.
I picked up a climber from Wilkerson Mill Gardens (WMG) the other day but it is over five foot. I hope it climbs to at least ten feet within a few years. They claim to be able to reach 40 feet but that will slow the flower growth..so the lady at WMG tells me.
Incidentally this one is a Moonlight Climbing Hydrangea
It was a 1 gal when planted. They don't make any significant upward growth until they have been in the ground for 3 years, regardless of the vine length/height when transplanted. 'Moonlight' is a nice pick. You'll love it. If you have a lawn company that does fertilzation you might consider having them try to avoid getting any high nitrogen fertilzer around the H. petiolatris roots. It doesn't hurt them but they really don't need that much nitrogen, especially a fall lawn feeding. It also discourages flowering over vegetative growth.
Oh I have a climbing one also. Love all my hydrangeas but this one... Never have gotten one flower! It finally is starting to spread after four or five years? Very pretty leaves on it. I think I will just leave mine as a ground cover. No brick or fence by it. There is a trellis but it is smooth. Guess I made a mistake buying this one! Ronna
This is a Japanese climbing hydrangea. I planted it in that spot growing up a dead dogwood tree that was there. After 3 years the dogwood fell down. I carefully removed it, replaced it with the trellis and a few years later added the brickpath. This hydrangea is now about 14 years old. It took 3 years before I got my first bloom. I love it so much, I have cut away two rooted offshoots and started them up trees in my garden last year.
Yes, it is just one plant. I keep the inside of the trellis trimmed out.
And I weave the loose vines thru the top as needed.
And in the spring I throw some osmocote around the base of it.
That is it. It is also at the bottom of a small hill the house sits on,
so the downspout water from half the house goes down that hill.
I only water there in August if we are having a drought.
Last year on the left side, I planted a clematis for more color.
It is so small you can not see it.
I was given a piece off of a lady's plant a couple of months ago and it was too cold and the ground frozen hard to plant it so I put it in a pot and it really looks good. Am anxious to get it planted out. I think I am going to use it as a ground cover n my perennial bed.
If it's not still windy here tomorrow I'll take a photo of the ground portion of the climbing hydrangea. It's very pretty and now I just might try rooting some cuttings. Hard to think of stunting the growth on a plant just about 3' tall. I'd have to live until I'm 90 to see a flower.
I bought one last year that had a lot of blossoms on it. It was about 3 feet long. Of course I killed it over the winter. I wanted it grow up the Cedar tree and of course the Cedar tree sucked up all the water anywhere near it so I just couldn't keep enough water for it. I even used the polymer crystals in the hole.
Yes pirl mine is sitting there and not growing very much at all. But very surprided this spring it actually grew over the winter. Been there about 4 years I believe???!!! Ground cover is what I am thinking for ours also. The leaves are very pretty... Neveron blossom on ours. I had two but it went arye Gave it to someone else and they traded it to someone else. Wonder how it is doing now? lol. Ronna
My brother and SIL have one that has been growing in a tree at their house for many years. That tree will be removed before too long, though, as it's unstable. The Hydrangea hasn't been cited as the reason, though. And the tree looks healthy to me - it's just leaning.
I'm guessing that when they don't bloom it's because they are in direct competition with the tree for water and nutrients.
They will attach themselves to a tree, brick, even vinyl with their little "feet". Mine has attached itself to the smooth boards of the fence, which is what I wanted it to do, so I'm okay with it. I don't remember where I read that it can kill a tree, but I know I did. Research changes though, so maybe that thinking has gone by the wayside. It could also be problematic if the wrong tree is chosen. Hydrangeas can get huge (eventually) so a large, sturdy tree is needed for support. As usual, choosing the right location for the plant is the first step to success. Evidently, a Maple should be the last choice as the support.
"Be advised that the aerial roots are very tenacious, clinging to whatever structure is nearby. They also leave a residue that is difficult to remove, which should be considered if planting next to brick, viny siding or wood. Experts caution against planting next to a maple tree, as the climbing hydrangea will compete with the maple tree for moisture."
And I had someone ask me that question on Sunday because we've all fought with Ivy here.
I definitely agree that it needs a tree that can withstand it's weight because they grow so long. It's getting pretty common, though in the Pacific NW to plant Hydrangeas going up fir trees. And we do love our trees. I'll ask an arborist, next chance I get and see if I can get a more definitive answer. I know that no one wants to lose a tree, for sure.
And I hadn't heard of or seen the residue. That's interesting. I'm not a fan of having anything grow on buildings or fences. I don't want to invite bugs or encourage moisture or have to cut down the vine so I can maintain things.
I am so delighted we actually have several buds on my climbing hydrangea!!! Can not believe! But I am thrilled. It has really grown quite alot... Will post the first pictures when it opens. Am so happy! Ronna
I'm waiting for mine to bloom. It spent a long time in the mail to me, from a friend in CA a few years ago, and just having it alive and well is a miracle. The one branch I layered took very well so eventually I'll have two of them blooming. I have to remind myself that patience is a virtue.
I know what you mean. Mine is small too, but I think it will be fine once I put it in the ground. I received late in the fall last year and worried about it being too late to plant because of the cold weather, so I kept it in a container. May be next year we can trade cuttings... I'll see if I can get one to root once it's done blooming.
Yeah, Shooting Star and Fuji Waterfall are the same for all practical purposes.
I saw a post last year in which someone said that they found one in the floral section of Whole Foods. I've been looking at floral sections of grocery stores since then and haven't seen it. Then our local expensive nursery had gallon pots for $50 or something crazy like that. Two or three weeks ago I finally found one in our local QFC (now owned by Fred Meyer) grocery stores for $20. It's growing beautifully.
So keep an eye out at your local grocery store floral department for these at a good price.
I actually buy a good bit of my plants from the grocery store. Sometime, they don't sell as fast and they will put them on clearance - for really good price! Also, I like Lowe's (home improvement store), they have excellent clearance section.
Looks like a national supplier of the same Hydrangea to non-gardening store channels. That's certainly not the tag you'd get from a nursery.
I'm surprised that there are so many of these out there and that the tag is 'exactly' the same between NY and WA. Must be a good seller and a relatively easy-to-care-for Hydrangea. That's good to hear . . .
I bought my climber from a local store here called Hardings friendly market!!! 20.00. The buds are getting bigger. I do not even remember what color it is... How long until they open? Now I guess I will ahve to wait some more... Good night Ronna
These climbing hydrangeas certainly keep a person waiting. Mine has about a half dozen blooms but they are all at the bottom of the vine. I figure at this rate, in five years it will be 30 feet high with some blooms at eye level. I better take my vitamins so I'm alive to see it :)
OK, you guys, so tell me how this happens, last year I bought one of these plants in a "gallon" can, what the nurseries call gallon, and it was covered with blooms. Because it was pot bound? So, if that is the case, what is the answer to one in the ground?
Maybe they fed it a fertilizer for bloom.
I usually only use a balanced fertilizer.
In the garden I am more interested in developing roots,
so that the plants do well on their own with the water mother nature provides.
Those hoses get heavy :)
For maybe 5 or 6 years, my climbing hydrangea just grew lots of lush foliage but never bloomed. Last year it finally started to bloom. Looks like it's going to bloom annually now. Mine is not planted under a tree, BTW, and I know there are adequate nutrients in the area as I have azaleas, a regular hydrangea, clematis, roses, and iris all blooming quite nicely around it. I'm guessing it (my climbing hydrangea) just needed to reach a certain age and maturity to start blooming, sort of like some varieties of wisteria.
BTW, there are a few different varieties of climbing hydrangea. They probably don't all have identical behavior and characteristics. For instance, some varieties may grow faster and/or start blooming sooner than others.
still waiting for the buds to pop open... Looks like it is getting more. Wow finally going to have some climbing hydrangea flowers... All of my hydrangeas are doing fabulous this year! Must be all the spring rain? Many buds on all. Ronna
So glad for you. My Endless Summer looks like it is going to make it, but have 2 variegateds that do not look good. I have a climbing hydrangea in a pot that I need to get into the garden. Going to use it as a groundcover.
Oh Jnette the leaves are really pretty on these. Mine has really grown this year quit a bit. Have to get some of thise garden clippie things some of the vine is starting to go in the walk way. Do not want to step on it after waiting so long to see some flowers! Ronna
Don't know Pirl, this was just a start given to me from a friend. A cutting off of hers. I don't think it is pot bound now. I put it in a gallon nursery pot when she sent it a few months ago so I doubt it is pot bound.
I wouldn't mind the sun drying up my brain cells if we had some. Sun that is.
You might have gotten confused over the one I BOUGHT last year that was in a gallon pot and covered with blossoms. I killed that one. LOL, not funny is it. I just wondered what they did to get it to bloom.
You have given me an idea. Mine I have had for over 4 years and no blooms. One is growing real good, no blooms, but the other two are not. I am thinking about taking one or both of the ones not doing well in the too much shade and putting them on a trellis.
Thanks I was wondering what to do.
I thought the people on this thread would enjoy it. The entire wall of them had to be 40' long and only after I was looking at the photos did I think that I should have asked the owner how old they are.
Just ordered 2 each of 3 year old Moonlight and Brookside Littleleaf from an Oregon company. We have acidic soil and I've been trying to find good ways to dress up my 2 year old pond. There's a rather ugly, stunted pine tree I left on the "isthmus" of the pond and I'm hoping a Brookside will eventually just "eat" it, if you know what I mean. The tree is only about 15' tall and I hope it's a better idea than just removing it. I thought it might be nice also to add a second Brookside not too far off beneath a rather naked bottomed cypress. The two Moonlights will be nice in the shady area just before the pond where our walkway is--we'll see. I hope they agree to go along with my plans . . .
Check the temperatures regularly anyways. Ours were quite warm lately and suddenly yesterday, it was cold and very windy. I had to put on a heavy coat agaaaaain to attend a talk at a nursery. And this morning it was 34 in the morning hours. Wow. Caught me by surprise too! That's what happens when it gets warm and I stop watching the forecasts! Hee hee hee. Hello, pril. Hope all is doing well.
It's not the temperature but bud break that you have time correctly. When terminal buds break they release a hormone that tells the roots to start growing and to begin pulling up nutrients and water from the soil. Interrupt bud break, or move a shrub during the spring flush and you will deal any tree, shrub or vine a set back. Don't wait for the buds to expand. If the buds are tight and the soil workable move it now.
Sorry snapple45 but I was not talking about that. I was just being practical about moving shrubs if the temperatures simply got too cold to be working outside. That is what happened to me this weekend.
Hello all... My climber did awsome last year!!! Mine has been in the ground for around 5 years also.. Finally got the first flowers on it last summer and went gangbusters. I thought mine was getting to much shade also. But guess not. Enjoy. Hope you are feeling better soon Pirl
you will really enjoy the flowers when they do arrive. They are kinda like the lace cap hydrangea flowers. they reaaly grow a lot when they start to flowers, mine did any way. There was many times when I was going to dig it up anf throw it in the trash. But now I am glad I did not. Mine also creeps all over the ground. I was always told that they take awhile to bloom. Enjoy!
It does take time, mine took several years to bloom. Likes gardenlady123 has stated, the flowers sorta like lace cap hydrangea flowers. I can't remember for sure, but it took 5 years for mine to bloom.
It's been a few weeks now since I put them all in the ground, but already they seem to be rather happy. The two Brooksides are creeping along the ground--seems like at least 5" of growth on those vines, and the Moonlights are going for it with their foliage. By the way, I have confirmed video footage (thank you game cam) that deer do not care for these plants. I set up the camera to see what kind of night critters were coming to my pond and got to watch a deer munch a branch of the Brookside and decide it wasn't all that tasty. Ever since they've left it alone and it's right on their daily path through the yard. Also, if you're planning on ordering, I highly recommend the store in Oregon--my plants were very large and healthy with almost no breakage.
Although, this is an entirely different type of hydrangea. A variegated lacecap hydrangrea. I often think of my climbing hydrangea's bloom resembles this Lacecap's only it's pure white instead of this in color--which is influences by the degree of acidity/alkalinity of the soil.
I have three growing on my back fence. The one that gets more light bloomed this year for the first time in the 5 years they have been there. They grow kinda at a regular rate but take a long time to bloom.