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mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 03, 2009 09:11 PM Post #6903967
| Easy care and pretty blooms. Crazy looking caudex. I love them  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 07:37 AM Post #6905308
| I'd love to try some from seed, but the seed that I found (a fragrant variety) is like, $12 for two seeds! In the nursery a one foot tall one with a caudex is fifty dollars!!!!!
They love it here, some folks have them in their yards and they bloom repeatedly, looking like azaleas when full. But few have the caudex. |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
August 04, 2009 08:11 AM Post #6905387
| They will only form the caudex if grown from seeds; however, the seed price you quote is utterly ridiculous. Did you look at the Marketplace here or EBay?
They are a very easy plant. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 08:47 AM Post #6905458
| Oh, I looked online and found some jazzy breeder in Indonesia or someplace. I wanted the 2 fragrant kinds. |
westraad Xai Xai Mozambique
August 04, 2009 12:20 PM Post #6906177
| Wow, sounds like a great plant! very beautiful! i haven't heard of them before, though i have seen something similar before. do you get them in other colors? |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 12:29 PM Post #6906210
| The flowers here are usually in all shades of pink or dark red. They are grown in the ground and in pots and everyone seems to do really well with them - except ME. I have one in a pot and it grows a few leaves and then they dry up and fall off, over and over again. It has a big caudex and it keeps trying by putting out these leaves but they never get very big before they turn brown and drop. It has got to be something simple I am doing wrong because I see huge ones growing in old soup cans all over the place, flowering their hearts out with tons of leaves. They aren't very expensive here and I see hundreds being grown out from seed in the back lots of the nurseries, all in their little soup cans. Maybe that's it? I need to add a piece of can to the pot? |
katiebear mulege Mexico
August 04, 2009 12:29 PM Post #6906213
| I just found out about these and am ordering some seeds on Ebay. Lots of colors and they look perfect for our subtropical climate.
The two - very expensive - that claim to be fragrant say "light fragrance>" I say grow them next to lavender!!
katiebear |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
August 04, 2009 01:36 PM Post #6906414
| I agree, I have smelled the fragrant ones and they really just have a slight scent. Not worth the extra bucks.
I grow mine next to my plumeria  |
katiebear mulege Mexico
August 04, 2009 01:52 PM Post #6906461
| I wrote to one of the ebay sellers asking if he had ony that were fragrant. His response: "But beauty has no smell." Couldn't have said it better myself.
kb |
Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 05:16 PM Post #6907187
| I thought this one was interesting...it's in our Public Gardens...I believe it was planted as a memorial of some sort, but I'm not sure. Obviously this one was grown completely from cuttings...no caudex at all. It is nearly always covered in blooms.
I have six of these in my garden...all extremely large, and all but one with the caudex. Perhaps you are watering it too much? If it has a large caudex, it does not need much in the way of outside water at all for a while.
Yokwe,
Shari Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 08:55 PM Post #6908080
| Stems will root, but make no caudex. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 04, 2009 09:05 PM Post #6908130
| Good Lord! Go look at this stuff!
An island off Yemen, where we do not wish to go. Booo, I wanna go!
http://www.fractalenlightenment.com/2008/09/unearthly-flora-... Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
August 04, 2009 09:17 PM Post #6908180
| Socotra - friends of mine went there last year; they said it was incredible. |
mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 04, 2009 10:17 PM Post #6908472
| Grow from seed and lift a little out of the soil each year to help make the big caudex. Takes time ... lots of time, but so do so many things. I grew enough to give every friend I've got several of them. They make cute fat seedlings.
Mary |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 05, 2009 08:24 AM Post #6909620
| One fellow said he'd started some seeds, and just about totally ignored them, no water but every few months. Then he did notice them after a couple of years, stuck back in a corner, and they were about a foot tall and doing fine. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
August 05, 2009 10:28 AM Post #6910009
| Sounds like my kind of plant.
kb |
Mvule Arua Uganda (Zone 11)
August 08, 2009 03:31 PM Post #6923261
| I just got three small plats from Kenya (they survived three days driving in our truck!). Do they need really dry, well draining soil or will any thing that is not waterlogged do?
Thanks |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
August 08, 2009 04:18 PM Post #6923422
| Well draining is the key. They like water, just not sitting in water. |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
August 09, 2009 01:08 AM Post #6925085
| She is a real beauty Mary! I am lucky to get one flower on mine - now I have seen your gorgeous plant I am going to move mine to a sunnier spot in the garden. |
mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 09, 2009 12:00 PM Post #6926118
| I just bought 100 mixed seed from Adenium Ko on EBay. Not that I'll keep them all if they germinate ... but the plants like to be a little root bound so I can keep them in small pots for a few years. I've got degenerative disc disease, so my back isn't what it used to be. The gigantic pots the brugmansia are in are just a bit much for me to move around now, and digging a big hole is out of the question in our rock filled earth, so I'm switching my focus. |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
August 09, 2009 12:19 PM Post #6926173
| Sorry to hear about your poor back Mary - how very sensible of you to switch focus, although you did grow some beautiful Brugs...
Keep us up to date on your new babies. |
Mvule Arua Uganda (Zone 11)
August 09, 2009 03:02 PM Post #6926706
| Okay thanks. I will try and plant them out this week they are only about 4 in high so they are still small. I did not know they came in different varieties. I just have the wild ones. |
westraad Xai Xai Mozambique
August 10, 2009 06:32 AM Post #6929266
| Mvule, you are from Uganda! I was just starting to think i am the only person from africa on tropical...
westraad |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 10, 2009 01:45 PM Post #6930679
| If your even thinking about growing desert rose you've just got to read what WQP has to offer, it's in the "subject"how to make your desert rose produce seed , the forum is caudiciform. Sorry I don't know how to do links, I'm computer stupid, but this guy (or girl) is a wealth of information, check him out, you won't be sorry. |
Mvule Arua Uganda (Zone 11)
August 11, 2009 02:17 AM Post #6933480
| Wow, thanks that thread is great, Jimsned. I need to be checking the Caudiform forum ill add it to my favourits.
Westraad, great to hear from you. It seems that most other African members are pretty dormant as I don't see their postings either. What kind of garden do you have in Mosambique? I just carried 3 coconuts, a cycad, desert rose and a couple of palms 1000km from Mombasa to Arua where we live. They survived dispite sharing the truck with a bunch of kids! |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 11, 2009 07:43 PM Post #6936211
| I bought two today, couldn't live without them. Local garden center got them in a couple of weeks ago, they're not in bloom, and not selling, either, they have about thirty plants. I guess $30 each is too pricey! But I plan to try to make seeds and babies. Is that a good excuse for an outlandish purchase?
I'll be happy to see the color, if I can make them happy to bloom.
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mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 11, 2009 10:45 PM Post #6936908
| They're so cute! Any excuse to add a new plant is a good excuse as far as I'm concerned. |
westraad Xai Xai Mozambique
August 12, 2009 03:14 AM Post #6937458
| My garden is a bit of everything, but mainly cottage. (at least thats what i tell myself!) how about you, what type of garden do you have? |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
August 12, 2009 01:09 PM Post #6938764
| Oh, it's so easy to spend $30 on a plant these days, you may as well purchase them and enjoy them. An evening at a movie with dinner will very easily set you back $60 and you'll have nothing to show for your expense. I just got one a while back. I love it. It dropped leaves when I repotted it. It turns out it was thirsty. Don't let the desert in desert rose fool you. It needs a lot of water with excellent drainage in the summer and way less water in the winter.
But then again, I could be wrong.
Sylvain. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
August 12, 2009 01:42 PM Post #6938903
| I thought I was wrong once but I was wrong.
kb |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
August 12, 2009 07:51 PM Post #6940088
| hmmm... I'm still trying with my desert rose. I moved it to a terrace with full sun and it gets rain as well. It seems to be doing a little better. It has leafed out again and so far (fingers crossed) the leaves haven't dropped. Maybe I wasn't watering it enough or maybe it needed more sun or... who knows. I would just be happy if it kept its leaves, I'll think about blooming later. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 13, 2009 07:19 AM Post #6941528
| There's a caudiciform forum, lots of info there.
From what I'm learning, a thorough watering, then totally dry before watering again. And quick draining soil, no clay. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 13, 2009 12:26 PM Post #6942526
| All of my desert rose are planted in the ground outside and doing fairly well, I just bought a new one and have decided to keep it in the pot, I bought it at a local nursery because it looked rather sad and needs attention. Since I've never had one I kept in a pot, I'd like to have any thoughts on transfering it to a larger pot since I see roots comming out the bottom of this pot. Will regular potting soil do? also, should I loosen the roots because I'm sure it's root bound. I figure it might be easier to play with hand pollenation up on a table, I'm doing my in the ground DR every day, but it's difficult to get back up after sitting on the ground pollenating flowers. Jim |
Mvule Arua Uganda (Zone 11)
August 13, 2009 02:42 PM Post #6942941
| Westaad,
Sorry been away for a while,
Well I don't know how to describe the garden it is really a small campus in a valley with a stream running through. it came with two Eucalyptus plantations I could do with out them in someways I would prefer local forest trees. I am trying to diversify the forests. Gardening is a battle with several families on site (not least my own three little 'uns and a very small budget.
I did post some pictures n the palm forum |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 16, 2009 08:35 AM Post #6952387
| Since I have at last learned how to post a picture, thanks to you guys at DavesGarden, I just have to show you my prized White Desert Rose, it'skind of strange because it has few to no leaves, but just blooms constantly.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
August 16, 2009 11:26 AM Post #6952889
| Very beatiful! The white ones are pretty rare. Does yours have a scent? |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 16, 2009 04:32 PM Post #6953765
| Dutchlady1, since I am a heavy smoker (sad to say) I wouldn't be able to smell them if they do, however, this one was labeled fregrant white, I have another smaller one which is white also, I trying pollenating them by hand, but I understand they don't come true to the mother plant. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 16, 2009 06:23 PM Post #6954080
| Have you perused Wilfred's comments on paintbrush pollination? A very good thread!
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1010662/ |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
August 16, 2009 06:29 PM Post #6954092
| Definitely a total gardener, Wilfred, check the fingernails. That's a compliment! Mine look like that half the time.
Jim-of-the-whiteflower, do try pollinating! I want your seed. Umm,,,Hum, that sounds funny...
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mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 17, 2009 12:18 AM Post #6955311
| I just planted 100 adenium seed. If 25% germinate I'll be more than happy. I just love growing from seed. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 17, 2009 11:01 AM Post #6956470
| Molamola, yea, I'm in the process of doing it now, no sign of a seed pod yet, I think it's going to be a trial and error thing. His instructions are fantistic (Wilfreds) and I'd recommend every one intrested in desert rose to read the thread. And yes, Wanting "my seed" does sound a bit racey LOL, Oh, by the way, I kinda like that Jim of the whiteflower |
westraad Xai Xai Mozambique
August 19, 2009 01:51 AM Post #6963576
| I hate growing anything from seed, it usually gets washed away or i forget to water it! |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 30, 2009 09:35 AM Post #7004182
| mpabbott1 it's been a while now, have any of your seeds sprouted? I received 2 seeds from tropic lover in the mail yesterday and have put them in pots already, since hers were store bought I have high expectations of at least one sprouting. The mail lady stepped on a 5 month old sprout that I had just moved in to the ground, it was difficult to keep from calling and complaining about her cutting through my yard to get to a neighbor, but in these tough economic times I decided to just count it as bad karma. |
mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
August 30, 2009 12:21 PM Post #7004724
| About 50% germination. Of those I have doubts on several. Will probably end up with 30-40, which will be perfect to try in the greenhouse this year. If 20 make it through the winter I'll be very happy.
I probably should have planted them immediately to improve the germination rate. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
August 31, 2009 07:29 AM Post #7007636
| 50% germination is about 49and 1/2 % better then my efforts so far,but now I have great hope because I am following the instructions given by Wilfred (WQP) on his "how to make your desert rose produce seed pods" thread, if you haven't seen it you owe it to yourself to check it out, the mans fantistic. |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
September 02, 2009 10:06 AM Post #7016866
| Hi,everyone.
Here is my adenium obesum. I was visiting a house for one of my foreign clients one day. The late owner's daughter was showing me the place. It was in a dilapidated state and I knew it wouldn't interest my client. As we made our way out, I noticed this plant sitting in a wrecked pot against the side of the house. It hadn't gotten any care in a very long time. Sitting under the eaves, I guess it hadn't received any watering in a while and forget fertilizing.
I asked the lady if she would consider selling that plant. She told me she wanted $10 for it, on account of its exotic look. I opened my wallet and (Oh shame) I only had $6 on me. She settled for $6. I picked the plant up, the pot fell apart, ants ran every which way, sandy soil sifted away. It messed up my car's trunk and my clothes. I was flat broke, dirty and happy. Now, that's a sure sign of a plant addict.
When I brought it home, Gail thought I was crazy to have purchased such an unsightly thing. It rewarded me for rescuing it by losing almost all its leaves. For a while there, I thought I would lose it entirely. I gave it fertilizer, regular watering and I waved a silk flower stalk from the dollar store over it, informing it that it could be replaced with a silk flower any time I felt like it. It perked right up, sent out new shoots and new leaves. I repotted it and even Gail is warming up to its exotic look.
Take care, all.
Sylvain. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Islandshari Kwajalein Marshall Islands (Zone 11)
September 02, 2009 06:54 PM Post #7018658
| Well Done Sylvain! I hope it rewards your kindness with tons of beautiful flowers. They can be quite vibrant in the right conditions...enjoy!
Yokwe,
Shari Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
September 02, 2009 09:19 PM Post #7019119
| Woww, Sylvain! I'll give you twelve dollars for that plant, it's so ugly, you know? |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
September 03, 2009 07:16 AM Post #7020264
| Hey Sylvain, I'll give you $12.50 LOL, I do the same thing at home depot, I feel sorry for the worst looking D.R. I'm a sucker for sad looking plants. |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
September 03, 2009 08:14 AM Post #7020388
| A glorious morning to everyone.
I really love my adenium. It's not for sale! it is looking so good now that it has new growth on the branches and leaves again. It did have one pink bloom on it when I bought it. It was probably trying to reproduce before the end came for it. But then again, maybe it just enjoyed being neglected. Who knows what plants "think"?
Be good, y'all.
Sylvain. |
dsa2591 North Port, FL (Zone 9b)
September 25, 2009 05:59 PM Post #7104183
| I have four rather large ones, two regular bicolors, one red and one pink, that hardly ever bloom because they were grown in shade. I tried to move them, but they got sunburned, so I took them back. I'm going to try acclimating them this winter when the sun isn't so strong so that I can get them blooming. I have a small cutting that I put in full sun that is blooming like mad. It's about two years old that just bloomed this year. I saw a yellow one the other day, and I want one so badly! My problem is I'm going to be moving, maybe further north, and I don't want to get any more tropicals until I know where I'm going. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
September 27, 2009 10:17 AM Post #7109061
| If you can move them every day, they can be gradually put into the full sun in about a week. Give them a half hour at noon, then back into shade, then the next day an hour, then add a half hour every day after that. And fertilize, so they can make more chlororphyl that they need for the extra sun. Go ahead and don't wait! |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
September 27, 2009 10:25 AM Post #7109084
| DSA2591,to learn all you want to know about desert rose check out the "how to make your desert rose produce seed pods" forum started by WQP he is a wealth of information from seed to finished plant ande has been a big help to me. Jim |
mpabbott1 (Mary) Poway, CA (Zone 10a)
September 27, 2009 11:58 AM Post #7109394
| Brads Buds and blooms carries Adenium, and is also having a sale on Plumeria. I've gotten Plumeria from him before, and they are extraordinary!
Mary |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
September 27, 2009 01:32 PM Post #7109645
| Ditto for Florida Colors Nursery. They carry many of the same varieties. Florida Colors also has adeniums but they're not on their website. I got two lovely variegated ones there last week 
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tbmontserrat Isles Bay Montserrat (Zone 11)
September 27, 2009 04:59 PM Post #7110228
| I Love Adenium. They are soooooooooo easy to grow from seed. Everyone is right they need well draining soil, if they sit in water the base will rot. I have them in pots and in the ground. The ones in pots I do not water until the soil feels dry (here about every 2 to 3days) the ones in the ground get a deep watering once a week. Apply a well rounded fertilizer regularly, I use a time released formula every 3 months or when needed.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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tbmontserrat Isles Bay Montserrat (Zone 11)
September 27, 2009 05:00 PM Post #7110232
| Another one  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
September 28, 2009 01:37 PM Post #7113060
| A fellow gardener from Montserrat! We almost stopped there on a cruise a long while back. I forget when. We were sailing on the Zaandam (Holland America Line) in December 2000. We didn't stop because the Souffrière was erupting again. So, we just sailed by Montserrat on our way back to Miami, after visiting Martinique. We got to see the volcano's plume in the distance. Bummer. We were looking forward to stopping there because so few cruise lines actually stop at Montserrat. We will go one day. It's on our list.
How are you all faring out there? Are you in any foreseeable danger? Oh, we meet such wonderful people from such exotic locations on Dave's Garden. And you like adeniums, too. Perfect!
Take care.
Sylvain. |
tbmontserrat Isles Bay Montserrat (Zone 11)
September 28, 2009 04:29 PM Post #7113694
| Hi Sylvain
So far the volcano has been very quiet. We have not had a serious ash fall since 2007. Had a small one last Jan but not too bad. We are keeping our fingers crossed and praying that this is the beginning of the end of the eruption. We moved here in March of 2006, so I missed most of the major collapses, but the one in May of 2006 almost sent me packing and back to Texas. The ash destroyed all the plants I brought with me plus most of what was established on the property, I was so depressed. But I just sucked it up and started over.
To bad you did not get to Montserrat, it is a wonderful place. It is not like the tourist islands, it is a small community. Everyone knows everyone. It is quiet and relaxing, not crowded at all (we consider a traffic jam 6 or more cars backed up because a herd of goats is crossing the road). Not much to do except relax and enjoy the sunsets.
I have about 100 to 150 Adenium in various colors, I really got into them because they are "ash hardy", they may loose a few leaves but they don't die. They were all grown from seed about a year ago so some are just now starting to bloom. But I love them. I plan to get more seeds and grow more.
Take Care
Tina
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dsa2591 North Port, FL (Zone 9b)
September 28, 2009 07:02 PM Post #7114211
| Thanks for the tips about moving into the sun. I'll start doing that tomorrow, and I'll check out that forum too. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
September 28, 2009 08:08 PM Post #7114453
| WQP, Wilfred, is a wonderful man! He goes to great lengths to answer questions. Very kind. |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
September 29, 2009 12:39 AM Post #7115402
| I don't know why my adenium is having such problems. I thought it was reviving, I moved it into full sun and it grew a few leaves but now they are falling off again and I think I should move it to partial sun again. Everyone talks about how easy they are, I'm rather depressed about mine. It's not the locale either, I go to other people's houses and theirs are gorgeous. Shoot, I see huge ones blooming away in abandoned lots. Waaa! |
tbmontserrat Isles Bay Montserrat (Zone 11)
September 29, 2009 08:02 AM Post #7115770
| extranjera
What kind of fertilizer are you giving it. Make sure you give it fertilizer high in phosphorus. Give it a super bloom fertilizer one feeding and a well balanced fertilizer the next. Alternate the feedings.
Also, when you moved it did you sun harden it. Any time a DR is stressed it looses its leaves. To much water, not enough water, not enough sun etc. etc.
Also if it is used to part sun and you just move it into sun and leave it that will stress it. You should sun harden it which means to get it used to full sun by introducing it for a short period and then making each period longer each day.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1010662/ .
Go to this forum, Wilfred really knows his DR's, He could probably help you with yours. He answers questions and is extremely helpful and knowledgable..
As long as the base is not soft or mushy your problem is fixable.
Tina |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
September 29, 2009 09:44 AM Post #7116059
| Extranjera, I read your post. The solution is right there in your post. The next time you see a gorgeous adenium growing on its own on an abandonned lot, stop the car. Find the shovel you keep in the back for such occasions and dig it up. It is growing on an abandonned piece of land, isn't it? No problem there. Noone will get mad at you for digging a weed.
Slip it into a pot or a garbage bag and bring it home. Voilà! You got yourself a sun-hardened, non-temperemental plant that is used to growing on its own without any human intervention. Keep it that way: no human intervention. Just don't get arrested in the process.
Sylvain. |
Molamola Christiansted, VI (Zone 11)
September 29, 2009 12:04 PM Post #7116447
| Ha, Sylvain, but the move might put the plant into shock for a while, dropping leaves and flowers!! |
dylancgc Mount Vernon, MO (Zone 6b)
September 29, 2009 02:06 PM Post #7116854
| When I get new plants they always drop their leaves but quickly grow more and just keep on growing from there. Just try not to look at them for a few days when they are naked.
I got 2 plants in a trade one last spring and one this summer and they are both blooming for the 1st time (for me). One is a very light pink with a darker pink border and one is white. I am still trying to find the names for them. I started 6-7 kinds from seed this summer and they are all growing well. Very easy plants for me. |
PurePlants Deltona, FL (Zone 9b)
October 12, 2009 08:37 AM Post #7160598
| The adenium is easily grown from seeds, I think I had almost 100% germination rate from the ones that I bought. A lot of fun to watch grow... Here is a picture of one of my seedlings, which was first to flower... love these plants! I have about 100 of them in 5 different varieties.  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
October 12, 2009 11:36 AM Post #7161160
| Where did you get your seeds?
Sylvain. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 12, 2009 11:46 AM Post #7161198
| Pureplants, since I consider it very difficult to grow them from seeds, I'd be interested in hearing your method if it's anything different then whats been posted by Wilfred (WQP) on his "how to make desert rose produce seeds". Mostly I'd like to know how you protect the seedlings from getting eaten by birds! Oh, and welcome to the thread, I'm always willing to learn. |
Braveheartsmom Kihei, HI (Zone 11)
October 12, 2009 12:14 PM Post #7161310
| Aloha and welcome!
Your seedling is beautiful, Pure! I can't imagine how exciting it's going to be watching 100 of them all start to flower and see what colors they are going to be! |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
October 12, 2009 12:17 PM Post #7161316
| I hate to even hope but my desert rose seems to be doing better and it has 2 buds on it! I'm so excited but trying not to get too invested as it has looked better in the past but then suddenly will drop all of its leaves. This is the first time it has had buds though.
I moved it about 5' to slightly less sun, still full sun but for fewer hours. Fingers crossed.
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dylancgc Mount Vernon, MO (Zone 6b)
October 12, 2009 01:35 PM Post #7161595
| I have another one blooming that I received in a trade. I am so thrilled. I hope I can over winter them ok. I would hate to lose them now.
Anyone have any tips on how to get Plumeria to sprout? |
Dutchlady1 Naples, FL (Zone 10a)
October 12, 2009 02:04 PM Post #7161690
| Check the FAQ section at the top of the plumeria forum.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/plumerias/all/ |
PurePlants Deltona, FL (Zone 9b)
October 12, 2009 07:39 PM Post #7162755
| Thanks everybody!!
Sylvain, I received my seeds from a U.S. seller on Ebay, I'd have to go back through my e-mail to see the name...
I read Wilfred's article for the first time today, I love the way he explained things and all the pictures!!! He really has a green thumb! I wish I would have seen his post when I first started. I have only tried to grow Adenium from seed one time and I don't think I had one seed that did not sprout! I have had a couple pass on due to over watering during a rainy period but I can count on one hand how many I've lost. I originally started off with 4 of the 3" sqare pots, filled it 3/4 full of a fast draining mix of Jungle grow, peat and vermeculite. I sprinkled the seeds over the mix and then lightly covered the seeds with a layer of vermeculite. Once they sprouted and had a few leaves I transplanted them all to their own 3" square containers. While transplanting, there were seedlings that never surfaced growing underneath but I still transplanted them and they ended up fine. There have been a good handful that has grown faster than most and I have already begun to raise the caudex some. REALLY cool plant if you ask me!!!
 Click the image for an enlarged view.
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PurePlants Deltona, FL (Zone 9b)
October 12, 2009 07:42 PM Post #7162770
| Another pic once they were all separated... (You might see a couple of plumies sprouting as well)  Click the image for an enlarged view.
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dylancgc Mount Vernon, MO (Zone 6b)
October 13, 2009 11:26 AM Post #7164705
| Dutchlady
I'll go check out the Plumeria forum link.
Thanks |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 15, 2009 08:44 AM Post #7171369
| Pureplants, I've been every where looking for "jungle grow", just wanted to read the label and compare to what I use, can't find it! Where the heck did you buy the stuff. I try so hard with Desert Rose but seldom break 10% success, I keep giving away those that I do get to sprout, but won't be satisfied till I can get 90%, what you find easy, I find very difficult but I do have great success with different trees that others tell me they have a difficult time with. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 15, 2009 09:56 AM Post #7171585
| I thought I posted here yesterday but either I posted somewhere else (and DGers are saying "why did she post that here?") or my post got lost in cyberspace.
I'm getting at least 50% germination on seeds from an eBay seller in Thialand or Viet Nam (yeotem, or something like that).
I fill a gallon ice cream tub about two/thirds with perlite. I spary gently at least once a day. I keep them out of the sun. They don't need any fertilizer until after they have sprouted and then it needs to be very diluted. I don't cover the seeds as many need light to germinate. I do spray them two or more times a day when it's very hot.
I have lots of little plants. I keep them close to the big plant (relatively speaking) that I got at Walmart to give them as example.
katie |
PurePlants Deltona, FL (Zone 9b)
October 15, 2009 10:16 AM Post #7171640
| Jimsned2,
The only place I can find it is at our local Lowes. Dang 10% success is not very cool. Where do you get your seeds? I know they have to be pretty fresh when you germinate them to get a good success rate, or at least that is one factor. Also, I think heat in shipping can really do a job on the seeds sometimes. I had one package from a seller take longer than usual and when I planted the seeds none of them sprouted and I had 3 different kinds of seeds from that seller but had good success from every other seed I had bought in that "wave" from other sellers. I was hopeful the seller would stand behind their product but I was poorly mistaken. Oh well. Anyway, I hope you have better luck soon! |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 15, 2009 11:43 AM Post #7171894
| Most of my seeds come from Wilfred, I think my trouble is in mis-understanding some instructions, it takes a lot less time for seeds to come from Wilford then from overseas, so I can't believe thats my problem. No, my problem is me! But, I will get it right and won't be satisfied till I get 90% germanation. Then it's onto hande pollenation. Jim |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
October 15, 2009 12:30 PM Post #7172040
| Hi.
Funniest thing, Jim: I went on e-Bay to see who had adenium seeds for sale. An auction on 30 "Dance Of Butterflies" adenium seeds was ending in 3 minutes. There was only 1 bid at $0.99, so I bid $1.04 on the lot of 30 seeds. Wouldn't you know it, I won the auction. The phytosanitary certificate will cost me $1.99 and the shipping if $4.00. They'll come from Thailand.
For $7.03, I guess I made a good deal. We'll see what comes from that.
Sylvain. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 15, 2009 01:44 PM Post #7172246
| Wow Sylvain, I hope you have better luck then I do with those seeds, do you know what color Dance of Butterflies is? Your going to have to check out WQPs how to make your desert rose produce seeds, he gives great instructions for planting them, but start at the top of his thread which is now getting very very long. Jim |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
October 15, 2009 02:32 PM Post #7172416
| What colour is the Dance of Butterflies adenium? It's hard to describe: "freaky pink on a heavy dose of crack" would be my best description. I include a picture which, I am told, is worth a thousand words.
Sylvain. Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 15, 2009 03:27 PM Post #7172567
| LOL, I will have to ask my friend Joe if the colors look familiar. It is a pretty one I think. |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
October 15, 2009 06:08 PM Post #7173091
| There's a lot of work still until it actually blooms but nothing ventured, nothing ventured... or something like that.
I make an awesome cosmopolitain. HMMM! Actually, I just had two. That's a rare event: me partaking in cocktails when noone is home. Hey, it happens. My quotes tend to be kind of mishkabibbled after that.
Sylvain. |
PurePlants Deltona, FL (Zone 9b)
October 15, 2009 06:23 PM Post #7173136
| I am also awaiting an order from Thailand. I usually perfer to stay within the states but I wanted to try some different types that I haven't seen around here. With the increase of travel time to get to me, I wonder what kind of germination rate I will be able to get... we shall see! |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 15, 2009 07:43 PM Post #7173451
| Mine went from Thialand to Ca. to Mexico and I'm getting about 50% germination.
kb |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 15, 2009 09:07 PM Post #7173823
| Katibear, still a lot better then what I've gotten, but I will try try again till I get it right. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 15, 2009 09:22 PM Post #7173870
| It's better than most of the seeds I've gotten from Horizon Herbs and other high-priced sites. I'm happy. And I'm still spraying the containers so I may get more.
kb |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
October 15, 2009 11:37 PM Post #7174290
| Katie, they ship to Mexico? or you brought them across the border yourself? I wish I could find a way to have seeds shipped here. I'm much too far from the US border to make that work very often. I'm close to Belize but doubt that would be any better. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 16, 2009 02:29 AM Post #7174608
| The seller said he would ship to me in Mexico but then he used the Ca. address. Luckily I was in Ca. shortly after they arrived.
Packages sent to Mexico often get lost in the mail. Or destroyed.
If you can have someone send you a small mailer marked "collectibles" that has worked. I've also gotten seeds from JLHudson sent to me here successfully.
In dealing with the ebay sellers who are in Thialand or Viet Nam there is a big language difference which adds to the confusion.
Just remembered I also got seeds from Johnnysseeds - a replacement when they made a mistake on my order. Packages which I received were sent with a return receipt requested, but not insured.
kb |
lourspolaire Delray Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
October 16, 2009 06:22 AM Post #7174714
| Hi, everyone.
Extranjera, I will be in Bélize in February 2010 for one day. Would seeds mailed to you from Bélize have a better chance of reaching you? If so, I would be happy to oblige.
Sylvain. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 16, 2009 08:44 AM Post #7174935
| Pureplants, I hope when you get and plant your seeds from Thailand yoiu keep posting about how many you planted and what your success was...Jim |
extranjera Mérida Mexico (Zone 11)
October 16, 2009 12:54 PM Post #7175865
| I get mail here at my house regularly, so far nothing has disappeared. It's about 2 weeks from the US, 3 weeks from Canada - rarely shorter. I receive credit cards, debit cards and all sorts of other stuff. However, my concern is the certs needed to mail seeds or plants, if they did look and discovered seeds I believe they would confiscate them without the phyto-xxx papers.
That's a kind offer Lou but my experience with Belize tells me that my mail service here in Mexico is hugely more efficient than that in Belize. Plus, the same phyto cert problem would no doubt ensure it disappeared.
I have heard that there is a British company that ships seeds without additional charges to Mexico. I have to do more research to find out the name. |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 16, 2009 01:32 PM Post #7175963
| I've received packages from the States that were marked seeds. No problem. I don't know the legalities but I haven't had a problem.
kb |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 16, 2009 01:44 PM Post #7175995
| Sylvain, I hope you post that Dance desert rose on WQPs new "Just Desert rose pictures" thread, I think you'd get a lot of feed back, the more I look at it the more I like it |
Mooshkadoo Palmetto Point Bahamas
October 31, 2009 09:53 PM Post #7228715
| Live in the Bahamas and have lots of beautiful desert roses, but just received my first seeds and need help in planting. Where do I find the wondrous Wilfred's information? Any other planting tips? |
katiebear mulege Mexico
October 31, 2009 10:43 PM Post #7228837
| I sprinkle mine on a bed of perlite and spray them about twice a day with plain water. I've been getting about 50% germination.
I think the info on Wilfred's thread is higher up on this thread.
kb |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
November 01, 2009 06:58 AM Post #7229408
| Mooshkadoo, All the information you could possibly want is on a thread called How to make your desert rose produce seed posted by Wilfred, I don't know how to do links, but would bet that some kind heart will see your question and post the thread for you, or you could just click on Wilfreds name (his screen name is WQP) and it will show the threads he has started. The thread is a VERY long one and we've decided to start a new one called Wilfreds family of desert rose growers, where you will find many like minded souls and one guy who whines a lot Jim |
Mooshkadoo Palmetto Point Bahamas
November 01, 2009 10:54 AM Post #7229868
| Jim, thanks for your quick reply. I managed to find both Wilfred's thread on seeding desert roses and the newer thread of Wilfred's family of desert rose growers. I'm happy and proud to be a new member. I'll start posting over there.
Thanks so much. |
Jimsned2 Fort Lauderdale, FL
November 01, 2009 01:57 PM Post #7230382
| Wilfred has been a God send for growers of desert rose, good luck with yours. Jim |