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venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 08, 2009
12:02 PM

Post #6922612

This verbascum was so healthy a couple of weeks ago! Then last week I found a slug on a leaf. Ever since, it has been wilting more and more everyday. I even have cut off some of the leaves that were looking so bad. It gets watered just fine. What is wrong with it? The wilted leaves are toward the bottom under the larger leaves.

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Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
08:14 AM

Post #6929466

Has it been rainy & cloudy there? Maybe it will perk up with sunnier weather?
I'm not familiar with this plant, though, so I'm just guessing. I'm sure other people with more knowledge will be along soon.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2009
08:19 AM

Post #6929473

Since the new leaves look fine I'd leave it alone and see how it looks in another week.

I believe you've had some super heat and high humidity and plants don't respond much better than people to adverse conditions.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
08:22 AM

Post #6929479

We have had plenty of sun. Jim thought maybe it was getting too much water also. I have stopped watering it but I think it is suppose to rain today, wouldn't you know! I think it is on its way out. There are only 2 leaves that are not affected now.

Thanks for trying.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
08:26 AM

Post #6929487

Yes! Very high humidity. It feels like a steam bath out there this morning!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
09:46 AM

Post #6929716

The whole plant is wilted now!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2009
09:49 AM

Post #6929723

Can you place an old umbrella near it to shade it from the sun?
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2009
09:54 AM

Post #6929733

When did you plant it?
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
12:33 PM

Post #6930347

I got it little more than 3 weeks ago. It didn't start to look bad until I planted it in the ground about 10 days after I got it. It gets sun less than half a day. ????
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2009
01:21 PM

Post #6930535

Sounds like it's stressed and a problem adjusting (transplant shock) - not uncommon with the weather you've had. As sad as it may look to you I'd still give it until mid September, when it's cooler, to see if it adapts...or not.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
01:29 PM

Post #6930616

Pirl, you might be right. I tried pulling up the worst of it a few days ago and it is in the soil very tight so it must have good roots. I hate looking at it though. It is so pathetic!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 10, 2009
02:00 PM

Post #6930739

Many of us have plants that don't look best in the high heat of summer. It's the same with people!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 10, 2009
02:24 PM

Post #6930842

You are right!! I hate this hot weather! I have a couple of errands and I just don't want to go outside! If my plant feels like I do, I really feel for it!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
09:07 AM

Post #6933928

This is how my plant is feeling today! : ~ (

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Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
09:29 AM

Post #6933979

the poor thing! don't pull it, leave it in it's sickbed!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
09:35 AM

Post #6933997

Ok, I will leave it to do whatever it wants to do!

Take a look at the photo from yesterday. (above)
It sure is changing fast. Imagine what it will look like tomorrow!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
10:52 AM

Post #6934191

I know the poor thing looks awful and it's making my nurse instincts kick in...I want to stick a thermometer in it's mouth, give it a cool compress and some broth lol Venice could you fluff it's mulch just to make me feel better?
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
11:07 AM

Post #6934249

lol I thought it may be getting too much water so I pulled back the mulch so the soil would dry. Ok, I will the the mulch a fluff!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
11:12 AM

Post #6934285

thank you :) it makes me feel like you turned the pillow to the cool side.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
11:23 AM

Post #6934343

Do you think this makes Wilty feel better?!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 11, 2009
11:47 AM

Post #6934459

Great sense of humor, venice!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 11, 2009
11:54 AM

Post #6934488

ROTFL HAHAHAHA
yes, it should perk up any time now!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 13, 2009
08:16 AM

Post #6941663

How's the patient doing Venice? Any change?
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2009
09:38 AM

Post #6941922

Wilty is shrinking!!!!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 13, 2009
09:53 AM

Post #6941970

Oh no! Maybe it's going into very early dormancy?
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2009
09:59 AM

Post #6941999

This is what the poor thing looked like just a few weeks ago!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 13, 2009
10:05 AM

Post #6942014

"The case of the disappearing verbascum" by venice62!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2009
10:09 AM

Post #6942032

Giving it Pepto Bismol a couple of days ago didn't even help it!!!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 13, 2009
10:18 AM

Post #6942059

Now it's down to a waiting game. See what it does when the weather gets cooler.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 13, 2009
10:43 AM

Post #6942148

Venice, a couple notes...verbascum needs full sun, the more the happier it is, so, it should be planted somewhere it gets sunrise to sunset sun. Verbascum prefer alkaline soil that has not been highly amended with compost, etc. and good drainage. They are found in the wild in dry stony areas and open woodland areas...in otherwords, they actually do better with some neglect. You may be actually killing it with kindness with water and fertilizer...make sure the soil does not stay wet. It should do fine with just rainfall and no additional watering.
fancyvan
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

August 13, 2009
10:49 AM

Post #6942167

I grow a few verbascum, full sun mostly and nothing gets watered more than maybe once a week if it doesnt rain.
My first thought was maybe something wrong with the root but also I suspect you need to just ignore it for a while
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2009
03:16 PM

Post #6953557

Wilty is getting pretty crisp!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 16, 2009
03:23 PM

Post #6953573

Crisp is not what you want and not what we're "rooting" for!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2009
05:24 PM

Post #6953938

oh boy! poor thing! looks critical, Venice!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2009
06:02 PM

Post #6954035

I keep trying to save Wilty!!!!

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 16, 2009
06:21 PM

Post #6954075

You're trying!

How does the stem feel? Soft? Hard?
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 16, 2009
06:33 PM

Post #6954098

Ohh Nooo. Venice, I am afraid it is fading fast. Verbascum are susceptible to powdery mildew and a varietyof leaf spot fungus. Try cutting the worst leaves off and giving it a shot of fungicide. Do you have moles or voles...they can do some serious damage without you even being aware of it, cuz they mess with the roots. Has the soil dried out?

(sounds of sirens in the distance...may take more than Pepto for this one) grin
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2009
07:02 PM

Post #6954173

Three-fourths of the leaves are crispy. The others are getting that way. The stems are rubbery and somewhat dry. I don’t think it is moldy powdery mildew because I know what that is. It never had any spots either. I sprayed it with 3-in-1 when it started to look bad. That should have covered everything. It sits between two black sweet potato vines, which look very healthy. And there are no critters around here. We just have ducks, geese, and a heron visits once and a while.

So, so sad! I feel helpless to save it! It is very critical and I don’t think it will hang on much longer! If the Pepto and the First Aid didn’t help, I don’t know what else to do! Please hope for the best for Wilty. He was such a good plant just a few weeks ago.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 16, 2009
07:03 PM

Post #6954180

Just don't pull it out no matter how bad it looks. I'm wondering if the stress made it go dormant early and only time will tell. Good luck!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 16, 2009
07:04 PM

Post #6954183

Venice, last ditch effort. Dig Wilty up and put him in a pot. He seems ready for the ICU.
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
05:53 AM

Post #6955608

lol I was gonna say, call 911...
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
07:38 AM

Post #6955767

I was going to give it CPR but counldn't find Wilty's chest!

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Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
08:06 AM

Post #6955823

time to tell the sweet potato vines you did everything you could...
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
08:40 AM

Post #6955890

Oh no!!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
11:24 AM

Post #6956577

I just made a post over on the butterfly bush thread. I DO have that powdery mildrew. I just noticed it all over my marigold leaves. Maybe that is what is killing Wilty.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
11:28 AM

Post #6956586

Could be. Guess it is time to don your OR mask and get to the root of the problem...sorry...grin
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
12:01 PM

Post #6956745

a near fatal misdiagnosis! somebody call an expert!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
02:17 PM

Post #6957280

Well, I am not House for plants, grin, but I did suggest powdery mildew...poor Wilty needed a personal House call. Grin
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
02:26 PM

Post #6957313

Sorry that I ignored your diagnosis! I killed it!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
02:31 PM

Post #6957347

Venice, Dear. Welcome to the wide wonderful world of gardening. If I had to atone for every plant I have killed through my lack of skill or my ignorance, I would be living UNDER the plant detention center...GRIN
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
02:59 PM

Post #6957463

I have never killed a plant just by me. It always has been from known outside forces like hail, apartment weed killer, etc.

If you have been over on the Butterfly Bush thread, you know how small my garden is.

Ok, I will let you know all the things I have in my tiny garden. A lot of ordinary plants.

3 double flower petunias, silver mound artemisia (a little left), butterfly bush, dwarf coreopsis (a little left), lamb’s ear, sentimental blue balloon flower (small this year), 5 small yellow celosia, blue ageratum, pink fountain gaura, yellow marigolds, autumn fire sedum, artemisia filifolia (just a little), verbascum, 5 blackie sweet potato vines, gazania rigens (3 yellow and 4 pink), orange moss roses in pot, mulberry tree (trimmed to topiary), 3 cherry tomatoes, regular tomato, pot with white, pink petunias, ageratum, and a vine, 2 avocado plants/trees in pots, a few tiny things in rock garden under gate.

Given to me: 4 hostas, orange marigolds, four daylilies, moss roses (mixes colors), 4 ferns, 2 bearded iris
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
03:02 PM

Post #6957482

That sounds like a full house. I am sure it is lovely and draws quite a bit of attention.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
03:21 PM

Post #6957552

Like I said, a lot of ordinary plants, nothing like I have seen posted on this site.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
03:34 PM

Post #6957612

Ordinary is in the eye of the beholder, Venice. If it looks full and colorful and attracts birds and bees, it is lovely.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
03:45 PM

Post #6957660

The bumble bees love the yellow marigolds! The other day one was asleep in a blossom. Last year I had more balloon flowers blooming and I found a bumble bee sleeping down in the center a few times.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
05:19 PM

Post #6957953

I sometimes think they are staking out their territory for later. I really like bumble bees...my kids called them stumble bees. A lot of people are afraid of being stung by them, but in all the years I have been gardening I have never had a problem with them. I see them as the dump trucks of pollenization.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2009
07:11 PM

Post #6958363

I think of my bumble bees as friends. I talk to them but I also talk to my flowers! Kitty is usually on the patio so if someone walks by they may think I am just talking to her!!! lol She is sitting on the electrical box in the photo. There rest of her is gray.

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themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 17, 2009
07:36 PM

Post #6958463

What a sweet girl. All dressed up in gray and white. I talk to just about everything...grin. Some of it answers back. LOL
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
10:00 AM

Post #6964365

Please help Wilty! I am in the process of replacing the dirt for it. But found these very tiny bugs! They look like very tiny worms but are flat on the underside. HELP!!!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
10:03 AM

Post #6964375

Let's see a photo of them.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
10:21 AM

Post #6964416

1) They are too tiny for my camera! I remember seeing some bigger ones in the house. Can't see legs. Not mealy bugs, not an Indian meal moth larvae, doesn't look like a centipede. They are the color of a worm, maybe just a touch over 1/16 inch. Does that help? Make any suggestion and I will look it up. I couldn't find any thing on the Internet and need a name to look up. Please.

2) Also, that butterfly bush -- There was white mold in the b;acl mulch on the top of the soil that was left from the mulch I had last year. Should I do anything with it? I tried to remove as much as I could.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
10:41 AM

Post #6964471

They aren't slugs? I'm not a good bug identifier so let's hope someone comes over here to help you with identification. Could they be pill bugs? Check it out on Google images.

Remove the mold in the mulch. Scrape it away from the stem and put it in the sun. You can always pour some diluted bleach over it - two cups of water to 1/4 cup bleach or soak them in the bleach solution and then leave in the sun to dry (or toss them).
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
11:07 AM

Post #6964540

No they aren't slugs! I suppose they might be a variety of pill bugs. But these have the color more of a worm, smaller, and they go fast. I couldn't find any when I went to examine one. I guess I scared them all away. Here is a photo of Wilty. This is the best photo I could get. The top part of the roots are hairy like but didn't see any lumps like in the Root-knot nematodes.

As for the butterfly bush, the mold was just on the top 1/2" to 1" of the soil. I definitely don't want to toss it.

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themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 19, 2009
11:18 AM

Post #6964571

Venice. I dunno...grin. The world of worms is huge. Could they be baby earthworms? Flat worms are some kind of tapeworm I think. Boy, your garden is just giving you fits this summer.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
11:34 AM

Post #6964617

No, not baby earthworms because I make sure to save all of those. Absolutely not a tapeworm!!! Yuck! lol

Got some good info from Crash. He suggested using Diatomaceous Earth for both Wilty and the Butterfly Bush. I have never used it before but wish I had known about it sooner.

Thanks for trying! I appreciate it.

Hope your weather down there is getting better. I have to hurry and go get this stuff and use it before it rains. It is pretty dark out there. Later!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 19, 2009
11:42 AM

Post #6964646

Venice, look at Wal-mart's pet department or one of your local pet stores as they should have small bags of Diatomacious earth for Diatom filter systems.

Use the county agent for worm ID
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
11:49 AM

Post #6964687

The County Agent is a great thought.

I'd replant the Verbascum because I see roots - you could wash it off and plant in a spot a good distance away from where you had the problem with it.

Diotomaceous earth has to be reapplied after heavy rains.

LOL - I didn't mean ditch the Butterfly Bush but ditch the mulch that has the problem if you don't want to bleach it off in a barrel!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
07:19 PM

Post #6966160

Could be slime mold on the mulch, I have a bunch of it here. Doesn't hurt anything. Pops up when it's humid. Sometimes I toss it out, sometime I just flip it to dry it out.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
07:47 PM

Post #6966270

I am finished!!! Because my body has had enough! I bought a 4 pound bag of DE but will return it because I am afraid the dust will blow around and that is not good for Kitty or me. Also, I am tired of hunting for stuff for just 2 little plants. I rinsed the roots and took out the moldy stuff. I mixed the new topsoil/peat, a little existing soil, the coffee grounds, egg shells then sprayed it with what I have. That will have to do. What are you suppose to do with the coffee filters? I took them out. The roots of the butterfly bush looked pretty dry and brittle, more or less dead looking. I trimmed Wilty and it has roots but to me they don't look promising. It must have stormed a bit while I was in the shower because my avacado tree was wet and blew over and it never gets wet where it is. We are to get rain tomorrow also so will wait until Thursday to fertilized my other plants. The End!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
07:55 PM

Post #6966293

The End?

How about the beginning? Every step of the way you've learned something.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 19, 2009
08:01 PM

Post #6966307

You have just learned a very important gardening lesson...When to say enough, to saving a plant.
Your verbascum has been given an excellent chance to revive itself...If it does, good on you, you gave it what it needed to recover. if not, good on you, you gave it what it needed to recover.

It is a win-win situation for you. Grin Congratulations!

Jean
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
08:01 PM

Post #6966310

Like they say every time you fail or go the wrong way, you have learned something. I would not have learned anything if I did all of this perfectly the first time! But it is the end of that part of the story. We will see what Mother Nature can do now!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
08:11 PM

Post #6966350

Please keep us posted. We love celebrations.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
08:12 PM

Post #6966354

Will do!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
08:15 PM

Post #6966369

Actually, I would have thrown out Wilty a long time ago were it not for all of you! And I would have not done anything to the BB.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 19, 2009
08:17 PM

Post #6966376

Many people have astilbe that they believe is dying now since some parts of the country have had very hot weather for over a week. They probably aren't dead but just going dormant and will grow again next year. We all live and learn.
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 19, 2009
08:17 PM

Post #6966377

Pushy bunch of folk aren't we...grin
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2009
08:25 PM

Post #6966408

Yep! You ask a question and you get lots of answers! My plants thank you!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
08:49 AM

Post #6982314

I just found a slug in my garden that was less than 1/2 inch long. So it got my curiousity up and I tried to look on the computer for a photo of baby slugs. I thought just maybe Wilty had tiny baby slugs. Couldn't find a photo but this is the info I found!

Slugs live for 7-10 years!
They lay eggs every 2-3 weeks!
They lay 30 eggs each time!!!!!!!

I might have seen at least 20 of the things I saw when I dug up Wilty. They were probably less than 1/4 inch long. I am so creeped out because I really do think these were very very young slugs!!!! SLUGS!!!!!

I am going over to Lowe's right now and get some Slugo or what ever they have for slugs!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 24, 2009
09:16 AM

Post #6982379

Tiny baby slugs could certainly upset Wilty...good job on catching them before they devour your garden. Learning something new everytime you get into the garden is part of the fun.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
09:31 AM

Post #6982423

Do not let them live - do whatever it takes to kill them but beware of products your pets might devour. There are a few threads on slugs now but I don't know if you can see them since you're not a subscriber. Maybe it's a good reason to subscribe!

One person uses a 20 to 1 solution of ammonia and water but it has to make direct contact with the slugs.

I'll show you a photo of baby slugs nestled in daylily foliage at the base of the plants - gross. Don't enlarge if you get queasy.

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venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
11:24 AM

Post #6982811

Are you sure those are slugs and not grubs? Mine didn't look like that. Whatever the ones I had were, they certainly should not have been there!

Came across this site showing the eggs and a 6 day old one!

http://www.pbase.com/darter02/slug

I just can't look at any more of these photos because I am too grossed out!!!!!

I bought Ortho Ecosense Brand Slug & Sail Killer - "can be used around pets & wildlife." I am still going to look at their site just to double check that info.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
11:32 AM

Post #6982843

Oh, yes, I know my slugs and people even create cartoons about me demolishing them!

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venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
11:36 AM

Post #6982866

LOL!!!!!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
12:22 PM

Post #6983019

Pirl -- I am so confused! What I had was mostly in the top inch of soil but also in 3 inches of the soil. I didn't notice until I dug up Wilty. Ok, slugs aren't in the ground but mostly on top of the ground or under something. They were worm colored, pointy on each end and less than 1/4". Someone suggested maggots. But aren't maggots white and not found IN the soil and are mostly feeding in one place??? Also, even baby worms are skinnier and longer than these.

The ONE I had this morning was definitely a slug but was about 4-5 feet from where I replanted Wilty. But Wilty did have one slug before it got sick.

We have been having some rain every day for a couple of weeks, sometimes it is just a little. But we have dew in the mornings and today it was really heavy.

What do you think? Please tell me you know what Wilty had!!!!

I will go and sprinkle this stuff anyway. I called the 1-800 number for this stuff and she said that the small amount used won't hurt Kitty.

It says to use 1 teaspoon per 1 square yard. I willl probably use about 2 t. of this 1 lb. can!!! Small garden!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
12:31 PM

Post #6983053

Get a photo of whatever it is and post it for us.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
12:44 PM

Post #6983118

My camera is not tha good to take that small of thing. I just saw some more of them!!!

You know those bugs that roll up into a ball? I think that is what they are but they are a lot smaller than what I have seen in the house before. I am sure that is what they are. I saw them in my mulch when I went to put it by Wilty. What are they?
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
12:55 PM

Post #6983167

Pill bugs and Sow bugs. Mine don't roll up so I guess maybe they are sow bugs. I have read that they aren't bad because they eat decaying organic things. But I had so many. Yep, Wilty was decaying. Should I kill these?
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
12:56 PM

Post #6983170

Pill bugs/rolly poly bugs/etc. Check out the Bug Identification here at DG. I never hurt them since they eat dying vegetation. People often think because they find the bugs in the root area that they're eating good plant material but it's simply not true.
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
07:36 PM

Post #6984505

I just can't look at those pics right now, I'm eating a late dinner ...Chinese food...I'm really hungry & need to finish it! lol
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
07:40 PM

Post #6984521

I know what you mean! One can take only so many gross things!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
07:44 PM

Post #6984535

hey Venice those bugs may be helping the eggshells & coffee grounds decay...
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
07:48 PM

Post #6984559

I found them today hidding under the mulch. I pushed it aside and had not recover the soil around Wilty yet. So when I went to put the mulch there, there they were! There are all different types of things for their feasting. I can hear them now. Yum, yum!!!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
08:02 PM

Post #6984598

they're as hungry as i am...
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 24, 2009
08:06 PM

Post #6984615

You need peanut butter no bake cookies...grin
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
08:12 PM

Post #6984642

Sounds good with General Tsao's chicken.
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
08:58 PM

Post #6984776

I need more food lol still hungry...
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
09:09 PM

Post #6984824

You aren't a sow bug, are you?
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
09:13 PM

Post #6984841

well we both like plant matter, but I have fewer legs and probably like less moisture.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
09:49 PM

Post #6984956

This is what Wilty looked like when I got him. I can't believe that ever since I got him he has been withering away.

Those little critters were too little to count their legs. But I assume they had more than 2 legs.

Can you believe I didn't know what General Tsao's chicken was? I looked up the recipe and boy does that sound good!! : ~ )

I just had salad and a Lean Cuisinel : ~ (

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pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
09:57 PM

Post #6984981

Plants that get smaller and smaller, then disappear, are never a problem for tending. I had it happen with a mini hosta that grew more mini by the day until...poof...it was gone.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
10:12 PM

Post #6985040

I think it poofed already! I cut off all the leaves because they were absolutely dead. I left a 1/2" stump so I could see where it is or was. I guess he is more of a stumpy now!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2009
10:18 PM

Post #6985059

Poor Wilty/Stumpy. Hasn't got a leg to stand on!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 24, 2009
10:21 PM

Post #6985073

LOL!!!!! That is soooo funny!!!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 25, 2009
07:26 AM

Post #6985803

poor stumpy! lol
I love General Tsao's chicken, one of my favorites.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 25, 2009
07:52 AM

Post #6985891

Wilty/Stumpy is reminding me of Monty Python and The Holy Grail when the fallen knight shouts out "Come back here and I'll bite off your knees" (or something close to that).
Grantman31
West Palm Beach, FL

August 25, 2009
09:42 AM

Post #6986160

Haha Monty Python...now you must go find shrubbery because Wilty just won't do!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 25, 2009
04:55 PM

Post #6987544

But she must find a Shrubber first...one can never do Shrubbery without a Shrubber...Nee
Grantman31
West Palm Beach, FL

August 26, 2009
08:49 AM

Post #6989848

Indeed! But one must implore as to the conundrum we face here regarding which came first - the shrubber or the shrubbery?
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

August 26, 2009
08:50 AM

Post #6989855

What would a shrubber do if it weren't for shrubbery?
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

August 26, 2009
09:19 AM

Post #6989950

I know not, but shall defend to the death (yours of course) the right to ask...well, maybe just til the Huge tracks of land are settled.

How many shrubs can a shrubber shrub if a shrubber could shrub shrubs? Nee or is is Icky picky noo noo?

grin...ach, heron after the fish...gotta run.
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

August 26, 2009
11:22 AM

Post #6990385

you guys are hysterical!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
07:34 PM

Post #7014728

This is the last photo of Wilty. I did the best I could for him but I guess there were no fairies around to help him through the tough times. I will miss him. I know all of you will miss him also.

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Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:06 PM

Post #7014872

:(
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
08:11 PM

Post #7014895

Oh no! "He coulda been a contenda".
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:11 PM

Post #7014900

OMG too funny eulogy's for plants
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:15 PM

Post #7014913

He was very special and everyone was 'rooting' for him!
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:20 PM

Post #7014932

rofl...poor wilty we knew him well...
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
08:23 PM

Post #7014937

We knew him when he got his first wilty leaf and now he's compost.
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:27 PM

Post #7014956

oh this is to much!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:27 PM

Post #7014957

Wilty we hardly knew ye...
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:32 PM

Post #7014984

shakespearean plant lovers unite!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
08:38 PM

Post #7015018

There once was a verbascum called Wilty
Whose owner felt suddenly guilty
When she laid him to rest
Saying, "For you it's the best"
Now Wilty is nothing but filthy.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:40 PM

Post #7015027

O Wilty Wilty! Wherefore art thou!
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
08:45 PM

Post #7015044

You're the one who pitched him! You should know!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:52 PM

Post #7015084

I didn't pitch him!!!!!!!!

He just wilted, shriveled up, and the fairies took him.
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:53 PM

Post #7015087

true she is
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
08:56 PM

Post #7015100

hahaha Pirl very good! (clapping)
sure, blame the fairies...that's what happened to the cookies, the fairies took 'em ;)
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 01, 2009
08:58 PM

Post #7015107

Poor Wilty is dead
He died in his bed.
We loved him the most
now he is compost.

Au Revoir, Wilty

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Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:08 PM

Post #7015158

haha good Moon!
We just need our Lambic & it will be a true send off.
jjsgramma
Woodhull, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 01, 2009
09:08 PM

Post #7015163

Is this the poet thread???
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:11 PM

Post #7015169

gardeners are a poetic bunch
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:14 PM

Post #7015186

and always twisted too...
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:25 PM

Post #7015232

Moon, that rhyme of rememberance was great!

The fairies are just taking care of him now. He is just in that wonderful place.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
09:25 PM

Post #7015236

...thanks to venice 62.
trinawitch
Canton,IL &Dent Coun, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:27 PM

Post #7015247

yes Venice Wilty is someplace where his blooms will never fade, and conditions are always perfect for him
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
09:28 PM

Post #7015259

He had no chance of dying due to being old.
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:29 PM

Post #7015266

Yes, Wilty is now a grand flower!!
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:31 PM

Post #7015273

Yes, Pirl, he joined the fairies just in his youth.
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

September 01, 2009
09:35 PM

Post #7015301

Can't wait for you to buy another plant so we can go through this again. :-)
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 01, 2009
09:36 PM

Post #7015303

Just remember Venice...only the good die young...
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:37 PM

Post #7015316

If we're going to do this again we'll need the Lambic...
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 01, 2009
09:43 PM

Post #7015351

That may not be strong enough Lynnie...may have to move on to the Tequila...arriba
jjsgramma
Woodhull, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 01, 2009
09:51 PM

Post #7015386

I love frozen margaritas!!
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
09:52 PM

Post #7015389

I am no longer allowed to drink tequila ;) but maybe i could make an exception..
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 01, 2009
09:55 PM

Post #7015414

I don't allow myself to drink tequila either, but I certainly talk myself into being lenient in this case.

Sorry I have been in and out. Boy's birthday and we are playing bourre'...right now we are tied.
jjsgramma
Woodhull, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 01, 2009
10:04 PM

Post #7015463

Tell him Happy Birthday. I don't know what happens when you guys drink it but...DH says I am alot more agreeable when I've had a few. LOL
Lynnie6868

(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
10:09 PM

Post #7015490

I used to get a little wild, but I've mellowed considerably ;)
venice62
Indianapolis, IN
(Zone 5b)

September 01, 2009
10:12 PM

Post #7015508

Moon, . . "only the good die young..." that was great!!
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 01, 2009
10:18 PM

Post #7015547

Thank Billy Joel, Venice...grin

tequila has a tendency to release ones inhibitions...A LOT...grin
jjsgramma
Woodhull, IL
(Zone 5a)

September 01, 2009
10:19 PM

Post #7015549

I can't drink much so I guess I'm either agreeable or dead. As long as I don't get a headache he's happy.

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