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50glee
Huntersville, NC
August 26, 2009
05:35 PM Post #6991647
| About five months or so ago, I placed an order and sent a follow-up d-mail requesting an invoice.
I offered to pay ASAP explaining it gets so hot down here, the sooner it gets into the ground the better it can survive.
I dont know all the reasons the invoice never appeared and I never got the plants.
I do know the heat is kicking butt down here now and Im barely surviving myself!
. . . but I digress!
About two weeks ago I get a d-mail from this same seller offering to sell to me now. I said a polite, Thanks but No Thanks.
Seller gave more reasons/explanations.
But my reality is very basic, as I had explained to seller in March:
In ground plantings after late May/June have a poor survival rate and this heat makes my survival rate feel equally poor!
We get the late 90's with max humidity Just BRUTAL!.
So how and why is it today I opened a d-mail from this same seller:
an Invoice for the plants ordered over five months AND demanding payment??
Is this a joke or something??
Im not sure what /how to respond? |
buggycrazy
Lebanon, OR
(Zone 7b)
August 26, 2009
06:02 PM Post #6991738
| Save yourself the trouble and just ignore them. You can always leave appropriate feedback for them. I am a seller, that behavior would be intolerable to me if I was the buyer. |
50glee
Huntersville, NC
August 26, 2009
06:58 PM Post #6991920
| okay. was not sure what the procedure is in DG for such matters.
hmmm that leaving appropriate feedback will stop an further d-mails too.
I LIKE the way you think! 
THANKS! |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 27, 2009
09:12 AM Post #6993670
| I am not a seller but I am a buyer. I just bought an item on ebay over a month ago and it took 3 emails days apart to get the invoice. I paid it and I have not heard it has shipped. I will not be a happy camper and Ebay will hear. and even though you can't leave negative feedback I have had one seller I had to so I wrote it out on the line. Sad it says positive but if they read the remarks I covered for the next person.
I hate to leave bad feedback. What I would do is D-mail them and tell them that if they persue this any farther you will leave bad feedback. But then I would leave a neutral on saying communication from seller not good. I personally won't buy again. To me that is neutral bad would be to tell what is happening after 5 months. You have the d-mails to prove it. and if they come back again for money or anything I would ask Terry to read the D-mails. Such stuff is not tolerated here.
Don't forget if they are in the garden watch dog for all the world to see make sure you leave negative feedback there also. If they write a rebuttal I would then go to Terry and explain and I believe they can remove any bad rebuttal the seller adds.
Sorry this is long I could not get my thoughts together. |
50glee
Huntersville, NC
August 27, 2009
10:41 AM Post #6993966
| Your thoughts are fine!
and I appreciate you taking the time to share them with me!
ha presently Im not concerned about negative rebuttal either.
I just need that seller to get it: after five months - No means No!
Thank You again for you time and consideration! |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 27, 2009
10:44 AM Post #6993977
| you are welcome. I don't know how some ppl can live with themselves? I guess they think they are right. I will never understand.
You are welcome. |
50glee
Huntersville, NC
August 28, 2009
03:42 PM Post #6998607
| dunno about living with themselves but I try to tell myself whatever to get over these types of annoyances.
Im telling myself the economy is forcing this seller to believe this is what they must do to secure sales and make money.
another different instance:
I sent 3 TB (tall bearded), RE (re blooming) irises PLUS as a trade and got much unknown vegetation. No one knows what it is. Got numerous empty promises of making right too.
I, personally, morphed into appreciating the spirituality of TRADING - good faith etc.
After much clicking around - it seems this person digs up plants from unknown sources (abandoned or foreclosed homes??) and trades them for what they want.
Economy or spirituality - the bottom line is:
- Im beginning to realize I may never fully understand people either.
So I guess we can keep each other company in our lack of understanding. *smile*
Thank you for listening.
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ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 28, 2009
04:04 PM Post #6998663
| Good thoughts.
You know I believe if we could think like them we would be like them.
So I am glad we don't think like them. :o)
I guess if they can sleep at night they don't have a clue how wrong they are. I hope one day they wake up to realize they better change before they have no customers or no friends. |
GardenSox
Sacramento, CA
(Zone 9a)
August 28, 2009
04:17 PM Post #6998706
| Ilovejesus99 - you actually can leave negative feedback for an eBay seller still. Sellers, however, cannot leave negative feedback for buyers anymore.
Also, on eBay you can leave positive feedback if you choose to and still reflect your true feelings when you fill out the DSRs (Detailed Sellers Report) which gives you the chance to rate a seller's performance on a scale of 1-5 in different categories like communication, shipping & handling charges, speed of delivery, and how accurately the item was described.
My apologies if you already knew this, but from your prior post it sounded as if you felt you had no choice but to give positive feedback when it would have been your preference to do otherwise. |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 28, 2009
04:33 PM Post #6998772
| No I did not realize that. I thought I had to check the positive box. Thank you for telling me. I have only had one seller I was very upset with and this was before where you check those boxes too.
You know what I think is so unfair is most sellers say they will leave feedback after the buyer does. That to me is blackmail. Either they want to make sure they don't get negative or that you leave feedback. Either way if I communicate and pay and do everything right I should get feed back as soon as they maik the package. But I guess ebay can't stop that.
Thanks for letting me know. |
GardenSox
Sacramento, CA
(Zone 9a)
August 28, 2009
04:45 PM Post #6998814
| I agree. As a buyer on eBay your only obligation is to pay for the item. Therefore, once you've paid you have held up your end of the deal and you should get positive feedback for that regardless of how well the rest of the transaction goes.
I do a lot of buying on eBay (and a tiny bit of selling) and when I feel a seller is being overly pushy and demanding about getting me to provide feedback first I typically don't do anything until they have left me feedback. As a buyer, feedback ratings aren't very important. On the other hand, as a seller on eBay they mean a great deal because eBay is structured to favor the sellers that provide better service. The sellers with the higher ratings pay fewer fees to eBay and their listings are displayed more prominantly in search results than those for sellers with lower feedback. |
buggycrazy
Lebanon, OR
(Zone 7b)
August 28, 2009
10:02 PM Post #6999870
| As an ex-seller and buyer on Feebay I found that feedback is meaningless and don't much bother with it anywhere anymore. I also quit feebay years ago due to the amount of bidder fraud and Feebays total lack of seller protection, which they now don't even pretend to have. I would much rather be paid for my products than keep having buyers who waste my time, and tie up my inventory rather than ever pay or communicate. Feedback just doesn't pay the bills.
The reason why most sellers won't leave feedback first is because ONLY 50% ever bothered to leave the seller any feedback, and that was way before feebay created feedback hostage situations. |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 28, 2009
10:44 PM Post #7000034
| I am sorry to hear you had such a problem with buyers. I don't remember how many feedback I have but I have never done anyone that way nor will I and I have only had one bad time with a seller.
I watch the shipping also. I bought 2 beautiful hummingbird clocks a long time ago and won them for 7.00 a piece. The shipping was almost 40 dollars. so I watch that close. And it seems that everything has become prices you can get stuff in the store for or higher not counting shipping. And of course you can't take checks or money orders now. I tried to sell something once and I was appalled I had to take paypal and pay a fee for them plus Ebay. I look for the glasswear I collect there but not much else. And have you noticed 99% of the plants offered say rare. Yeah right most are very common.
I did love buying amaryllis once in a while but I noticed that almost all say 2 yr old bulb but that is a very tiny bulb. And I am not that patient and no recourse if it is not what I thought I was buying.
But I have had some of the best sellers. I am just careful to really read things now. |
JonnaSudenius
Büllingen
Belgium
(Zone 6b)
August 30, 2009
02:58 PM Post #7005269
| Just a question from a European DG member. I'm a seller on the Marketplace too.
Here in Europe we are not so used to giving feedback. Sometimes it happens, but not so much as in the US. Now I read here that even sellers must give feedback on their buyers. Should I do that too?
Jonna |
buggycrazy
Lebanon, OR
(Zone 7b)
August 30, 2009
10:54 PM Post #7006880
| No, feedback is not mandatory. After years of leaving 100% feedback on feebay and only getting 50% feedback in return (even from those that demanded it) it is a waste of time. |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 31, 2009
04:05 AM Post #7007456
| I never demanded it but think if I hold up as a buyer and have a rotten seller and want to leave them bad feedback for the next person I should not be afraid I will get bad because they were bad.
Sometimes I forget to leave and I have only had one seller remind me 2 times on 1 auction. I use tosend the seller a ebay email to say I left feedback just so they did not forget. But now I am getting better as I do not buy that often. If they leave it fine if not I have over 250 or or some number at 100%. If I get no more left for me as buyer I will still be 100%. So I give and do not worry if I get it back.
bugcrazy I am sorry people were that terrible to you.
If as a buyer what do you think the response I would get it I won the bid and sent mail to buyer saying you send me feedback first then you get yours? Maybe forgrt you? Or do you think they would like me holding for ransome? Just think out loud on last question.
blessings,
Sandy |
GardenSox
Sacramento, CA
(Zone 9a)
August 31, 2009
12:45 PM Post #7008835
| Sandy - I think you've got the right idea. As buyers, your feedback number doesn't really matter. But that 100% is important, especially if you want to sell something once in a while.
As for your question, I think that most savvy sellers would be irritated by having someone contact them about leaving feedback. But, like most things, it would probably vary case by case. I know that most of the people I buy from have their eBay accounts set up to automatically provide positive feedback the instant that payment is received. Smaller or less frequent sellers will probably need more time to get around to leaving feedback and if they are really inexperienced eBay sellers they might actually appreciate the reminder to leave feedback. |
ilovejesus99
Baytown, TX
(Zone 9b)
August 31, 2009
01:44 PM Post #7008992
| :o) Gardensox
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