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jannz2
Pilot Point, TX
(Zone 7b)

August 27, 2009
7:59 PM

Post #6995171

My Texas Gardener magazine had a picture of these red Corn Poppies -- sure are pretty. The magazine says to plant now for a spring show...and that they are good reseeders.

Just curious if anyone here has any experience with them ???

Thanks

Jann

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graceful_garden
Hahira, GA
(Zone 8b)

September 18, 2009
3:13 PM

Post #7077501

No, Jann - but I want to! I want to seed a field on the side of my property after we burn it in November or December - after we get a good frost.They sure are beautiful!! Samantha
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 8, 2009
9:46 PM

Post #7149049

They are so cheery and bright, I won't be without them! For some reason they don't reseed for me like lots of gardeners report, so I save seed from them and surface sow later. I've had the best luck sowing in February and March in my zone, but I'm not sure what's best further south. I used to think they needed cool temps to germinate, but now I believe lack of competition and plenty of moisture while they're tiny is why that time of year works for me.

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1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 26, 2009
2:24 AM

Post #7208571

Yes, I sow them every year. My seed supplier says to sow them in Fall/Winter. I'm surprised that your mag. said to sow them in the summer. I've never heard of that, Bluebonnets maybe but that's really early for poppies. Anyway, with so much rain this fall they should be beautiful in the spring. They don't last very long once it gets hot.
Lisa
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 26, 2009
12:11 PM

Post #7209312

Well, I said above that they didn't reseed for me, but I'm finding loads of seedlings now! I'm curious if they're like Larkspurs, in producing seedlings in fall that overwinter and then take off in spring? I've grown Iceland poppies that behaved like that.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

October 28, 2009
6:48 PM

Post #7217392

OK I checked with one of my seed suppliers and the general role is that corn poppies should be sown in the spring if you live north of Oklahoma. However, if they get a good start and a long tap root they should be hardy enough to survive winter. If they don't survive the winter you can always reseed in the spring, or some seeds may stay dormant over winter and come up on their own. The earlier start that they get the better, they heat does them in more then the cold.
Lisa
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 28, 2009
9:33 PM

Post #7217870

This will be a good experiment then! I kinda think they'll withstand the winter, our winters have gotten milder over the years, and I'm seeing lots of zone 7 hardy plants survive in the ground on a regular basis. I've got some zone 8 plants that overwinter outside from time to time (some that I inevitably forget to dig up), Dahlias, and once even Pineapple Lilies.

I did get seed from them, so I'm not sweatin' it if they don't make it. Thanks for the info!
Neal

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 9, 2009
4:04 PM

Post #7256004

I had dropped off the poppy forum.
I see no reason a red reseeding wouldnt happen.
I had some reds that were direct seeded in March but they failed to germinate.
I have just direct sowed somnifariums, mix.
A Heritage poppy "Drop Dead Georgous" from One Stop Poppy.
and a salmon mop type.I call it Phyllis Dillers revenge.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 9, 2009
6:20 PM

Post #7256498

Just a note I have had poppies come up the year after I sowed the seed. I've had years I didn't sow seeds but still got poppies. The poppy God works in mysterious ways.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 9, 2009
6:54 PM

Post #7256603

The poppies re seed and find themselves in mysterious places, some carried by birds etc.
My reds were Island Mohen's

This message was edited Nov 10, 2009 4:38 AM
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

November 12, 2009
3:12 AM

Post #7265736

I'm not sure if I have Corn Poppies, but it looks like I had two different types of red poppies this past summer. I've been sowing seeds there for 3 years. I finally had some good luck this year after sowing them in March before the last snow storm usually occurs. I just placed an order at One stop poppy shop for some different poppies including some doubles in salmon and white shades.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 12, 2009
8:57 AM

Post #7266185

Meredith! you will love the salmon doubles,I direct sowed Venus last December I always direct sow poppies. I dont have white. I did have some failures. Shirleys and Island Mohen didnt germinate where I sowed them.
This is my clump of Venus in july

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 12, 2009
8:58 AM

Post #7266186

I also direct sowed One Stops Heritage poppies DroDead Georgous

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

November 12, 2009
1:53 PM

Post #7266556

ge, keep an eye out for seedlings, I've had Shirley Poppies fail to show up the year I sowed, then mysteriously show the next year.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 12, 2009
4:18 PM

Post #7267006

WOW I knew Moss Rose would go dormant until the seeds worked their way to the exact spot they like to germinate. Never thought of poppies too.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

November 13, 2009
12:34 PM

Post #7269626

GE I love those Venus! I was torn about getting that variety. I decided they looked more pink in the catalog pics, than the ones I ended up getting. I am trying to go with a more salmon or apricot color pink. I'm not sure when I should sow them. I am thinking I might do half as soon as they come in and then again in March. Then I should have luck. Only problem is the spot I want them might be a bit too sandy and dry. I am thinking about adding some more compost first. I already added about 6 bags but it didn't seem to do a whole lot because the soil was like dust! lol

fixed typos

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 13, 2009
1:57 PM

Post #7269856

The Venus I grew were not THAT pink
Now that I look again maybe they were

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1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 13, 2009
3:16 PM

Post #7270080

I'm so jealous. Those of you that live in the cooler climates can grow such beautiful poppies. I have also been told that CA poppies can take a year or 2 to decide to germinate. I don't think my poppy seeds were brought in by birds because they came up right where I sowed them just not when I expected.
Lisa
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

November 14, 2009
1:58 PM

Post #7273039

Very pretty Ge!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2009
2:06 PM

Post #7273058

No one has the perfect setup.
I love Bouganvilla just dripping over walls. NOT HERE in zone 6
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 15, 2009
1:48 AM

Post #7274921

It gets too cold here for bouganvilla. We either treat thenm as annuals or bring them in to over winter, but I agree they are beautiful. We might be getting our first freeze at the beginning of the week so I'm dragging all the plants in, picking everything in the garden, then covering all my veggie plants in case it doesn't get THAT cold.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
10:25 AM

Post #7275653

HOLYCOW I thiught Texas was hot everywhere
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 15, 2009
2:27 PM

Post #7275944

"HOLYCOW" LOL- no we get freezes during the winter, and crippling heat in the summer. That is one of the reasons gardening is a challenge here. Further south bougnvilla are grown year round. I'm originally from S CA so gardening here is more labor intensive. At least I can think of your post and laugh at myself as I haul plants in the house, pick veggies in the garden, and cover all the plants. All this work will insure it doesn't freeze. Oh ya toss out my poppy seeds because we are supposed to get rain too.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
10:05 AM

Post #7320956

I believe the seeds I sowed a fw weeks ago ,have germinated.Kraaaaps.

We are having an unusually warm November.
Just wait and see what happens I guess.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

November 30, 2009
5:23 PM

Post #7322110

Some of mine have also and they should survive a freeze but I don't know about snow. I like your spelling.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

November 30, 2009
6:02 PM

Post #7322239

Uh oh Ge! I was thinking of sowing mine in fall, but then second guessed myself and decided I'd wait. Now I'm glad I did or else I would probably have them germinating as well. I've noticed that happening with the red poppies, I left them to go to seed and you can see some have already germinated. It happened last fall too and unfortunately none of th seedlings pulled through winter. I think they can in warmer climates than ours. You are right that it isn't staying as cold as usual.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
6:19 PM

Post #7322273

My spelling is the worst. I am comfortable on Daves which supports many terrible spellers.
I am still not sure the teeny green shoots are poppies. The poppies dont seem to be growing any where else.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

November 30, 2009
6:23 PM

Post #7322288

Wellperhaps you are like me and your spelling is most often times wonderful... It's my fingers and teh keyboard that are a problem!! ha ha : D Oh looky see that - of course I know how to spell the but it comes out teh an awful lot! Lol

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
7:03 PM

Post #7322413

I have trouble with the A key and often hit caps.
I have to look at my fingers when I type so I will finish a long post to see its all caps. what a mess.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

December 1, 2009
12:15 AM

Post #7323352

I thought you meant to put a K where there could have been a C. Looks OK to me.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
12:30 AM

Post #7323400

OOOO yes I am clever that way
Trying to get my point across with out being kicked off for using the wrong subject matter.
raggins
Paris, TX

December 1, 2009
7:15 PM

Post #7325565

I put out my seeds out and they have germinated. We they survive a freeze?
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
7:23 PM

Post #7325591

They're quite hardy, I think they'll be fine in your zone. I'm pretty sure it was Corn Poppies I've had germinate in fall and overwinter just fine. I'm banking on them being hardy, as I have loads of self set seedlings out there now.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 2, 2009
12:21 AM

Post #7326467

good advise Gemenisage
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 2, 2009
3:45 PM

Post #7328231

I remembered that a member in zone 5, Michigan grows Shirley Poppies (Corn Poppies, Papaver rhoeas) that reseed yearly. I dmailed her, and sure enough, the seedlings are hardy, even that far north- she said there's no need to give them protection.

raggins, looks like we can rest assured we'll see lovely poppies in spring :-)

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 2, 2009
3:53 PM

Post #7328248

thats a load off my mind
thanks gemenie-sage
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 3, 2009
12:38 PM

Post #7330937

I wonder if there is something besides cold that does them in, because I haven't had good luck with the Shirley Poppies here. I got freebies, two years in a row from Dianeseeds and I only had a couple bloom and none reseeding. I was poking around outside and I have tons of Red Poppy seedlings out there right now.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2009
12:44 PM

Post #7330952

My Shirlies grew here but they were from someone selling seedballs .
I didnt like them where they were growing so I ripped them.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2009
1:20 PM

Post #7331018

Meredith, did you get germination, or did they not perform well after germinating?
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 3, 2009
3:49 PM

Post #7331419

I had some germination but I only remember a handful of seedlings making it to bloom.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2009
9:04 PM

Post #7332228

When did you sow them? I remember one year I sowed some in spring, later than I like to nowadays, probably in late April, and saw nothing from them till a whole year later. Makes me wonder if fall sowing, like seems to happen with self set seedlings, would be a good idea for you.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 3, 2009
9:46 PM

Post #7332347

Thanks Gemini, I think that was part of the problem, I sowed them in spring and probably a tad on the late side. I was hoping to see more seedlings the next year but I think I had one and then nothing this year. However, I didn't sow any for this year. Maybe a few volunteers will pop up in the future. I swear sometimes it's the seeds. I notice sometimes I have no luck with seeds or the resulting seedlings aren't very strong, yet if I try the same type more than once, sometimes I have excellent results. Poppies seem to be one of those finicky ones too. If you Poppy Germination tons of people asking what they did wrong come up. lol

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
10:43 AM

Post #7333990

I direct sowed annual poppies last year and was given this advise.
Between December and no later than March.
Poppies need a cold period in order to germinate.
They also need a good growing medium.(The first poppies I sowed 2 years ago,didnt germinate becaust I tossed them on a mulched area)
I clear away any mulch or leaf debrie so I can see soil.
I also scratch the surface if its too compact.I toss the seeds on,someone said they do best if they are not broadcast too thin.
I dont know why the soil scratching is necessary, I have seen poppies growing in cracks in the sidewalk.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
1:06 PM

Post #7334165

Meredith, now that you mention it, it does seem I have had better luck with saved or traded seed than commercial seed for the most part.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
1:10 PM

Post #7334180

Seeds wont germinate if they are harvested too soon.
I wonder if commercial growers jump the gun there.
I had good luck with One Stopp PoppyShopp.
I havnt grown poppies from any other commercial vendor.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
1:14 PM

Post #7334190

I had the best luck (as for commercial seed), with those I got from Swallowtail Gardens. All the seed I got from them performed well.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
1:18 PM

Post #7334200

I have about 8 pack of seeds from SwallowTail.
Ready for spring. No poppies from them, lots of nastuers,asters,cosmos etc.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2009
4:12 PM

Post #7334707

I think I did have great luck with the Rhoeas now that I think about it. But it was the Red strain. The ones I didn't have luck with were supposed to be more that pastel semi double type mix. It's so hard to tell which ones grew from which seeds I put down. I have been direct sowing Poppies in this certain garden for a few years now. And like you said sometimes they'll lay dormant to bloom in subsequent years. All I know is I got a free pack of poppy seeds that said Red Poppies from cheap seeds with an order for a stepping stone mold. I direct sowed them in about March of 09 and I a lot of red poppies in that bed this spring. Those are the ones in the pic I posted. So that package of seed must of been collected at just the right time. It probably helped that it had a very lot of seeds in it too. I am so glad to hear you had good luck with One Stop Poppy Shop. I've received my order from there. I don't think I mentioned my selections yet. Here's a link to my listing of my order in my journal. Sorry if I tempt any one in to trying some. ; ) I had originally had 3x that amount of seeds in my cart, but I need to be frugal these days like many people so I had to choose about the top ten I wanted to try. : )


Link to my poppy order http://davesgarden.com/community/journals/vbc/Meredith79/83206/
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2009
4:23 PM

Post #7334734

I went back and looked at Jann's thread pic and I realize that the ones I got from cheap seeds don't quite look that. They had black in the centers. Maybe someone can help me figure out which ones thay are? I did have some that looked like the one's in Jan's pic, but I think those reseeded from ones I grew the previous year which was when I know I had put down some Rhoeas seeds. I am a bit confused as to which ones I have, sorry. : )

Hopefully this is the right pic of the ones I am not sure of.

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Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2009
4:26 PM

Post #7334743

Sorry I don't know what's up with my pics not posting right. I am getting them off a flash drive so I think it is messing things up. I'll try again.

Ahh that's when the preview button comes in extra handy... lol.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
4:31 PM

Post #7334758

I thought I was going nuts searching for poppies in that first pic Meridith.
Glad I am not the only one who has malfunctions from time to time.
That poppy is beautiful
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2009
4:47 PM

Post #7334799

Lol thank you Ge! : )
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 4, 2009
6:11 PM

Post #7335045

It took me some time to find a photo of one but this is the other type that I think is a P. rhoeas. Notice how there is no black? Can rhoeas have black or is it a different one?

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
6:22 PM

Post #7335074

I am not the one to ask.
I planted Rohes (sp) last december and they never germinated.
When I encounter a problem with a plant I just pass on to the next idea. There are so many poppies that are successful for me I just stick with what works.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 4, 2009
6:33 PM

Post #7335102

The reds I have in the butterfly garden are a mix, some with black splotches, some without. I think there's a lot of variance within the species.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 5, 2009
2:26 PM

Post #7337605

That must be what is going on then, just variance. Thanks, I usually am so good at keeping records of what I plant but I sprinkled these down at a point where I hadn't started everything I was supposed to and was trying to keep up with watering all my seedlings and such. You know that spring rush you get, when you realize you had made way too many plans, of what you'd grow from seed that year. Lol

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2009
3:15 PM

Post #7337749

Its winter and I feel that way now.
I just made 3 new picasa albums and Finally figured out how to add plants and pix to Plant Files,that should keep me busy.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 5, 2009
7:40 PM

Post #7338665

Ge It's funny you say that because I just finished a couple albums on there. That's my favorite photo storage site. Do you have a picasa web album? It's so easy to use with picasa and they even have my favorite print store - Snapfish so I can just click on it to order prints. If you want give me a link to your web album here or through d-mail and I'll link you to my album. I love looking at others garden photos to get me through winter. : )

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2009
8:30 PM

Post #7338893

I did find out how to post albums on Daves
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/DayliliesLiliesDaylilyGarden
I will create a poppy album

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2009
8:44 PM

Post #7338941

First year sowing poppies directly.They are selfseeded for next year plus I added some in places not sown before.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/Poppies2009
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 5, 2009
9:31 PM

Post #7339103

Love your Daylilies. : ) http://picasaweb.google.com/FlutterbugGarden/DavisBrookFarmDaylilies?feat=directlink

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2009
11:43 PM

Post #7339578

Thanks Meredith
I got gmail from Flutterbug.This album thing is new so I'm not sure what to do with it.
That DL collection is splendid.
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 6, 2009
3:01 PM

Post #7341248

Thanks Ge I will slowly be adding to it as I go through my 09 pics. : )

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 6, 2009
3:29 PM

Post #7341308

R you Flutterbug?
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 6, 2009
5:21 PM

Post #7341644

Yup, I'm sorry I should have mentioned that. : )
Meredith79
Southeastern, NH
(Zone 5b)

December 6, 2009
5:23 PM

Post #7341648

I thought you were jgentle4, was I mistaken? I made that one a favorite.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 6, 2009
5:29 PM

Post #7341671

Here's what I did.
Made albums clicked public viewing so anyone can see on the net.(I guess)Google pick up visitors with comments and sends email to my google address.
Google also is where I downloaded Picasa for free.
All I wanted was photoediting soft ware that I could make collages with.
I havnt explored the rest of Picasa until I made albums yesterday.

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