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ginger749

August 28, 2009
5:36 AM

Post #6996769

How many of Us Aussies have BBQ’s ???

On a recent trip to Italy [ The birth place of PIZZAS ]
[quote]THE YANKS THINK THEY INVENTED EVERYTHING[/quote]
I saw what was the best back yard accessory since the Hills Hoist.
A Brilliant little oven called the “Stone Fired Pizza Oven “

I have decided to build one here on the Gold Coast.
If any one is interested, I will post some Pictures of the progress of my new back yard Accessory.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 28, 2009
6:12 AM

Post #6996809

Hi ginger ...so that's where you have been ...boy you sure get around ...I agree re the pizza oven, I am married to a born in Italy Australian and our BBQ is ok but boy oh boy do those Pizza oven work wonders with way more than pizzas ...what about bread, meat ...sausages, you name it.Sad to say I have a huge brick BBQ ...big enough to cook a cow in as well as a 6 burner BBQ with cover ...hardly use them.
The Brick and tiled giant BBQ came with the house ...????? it's only 10ft from the septic tank so no I don't use it except for a heatbank in my secret garden (it keeps the tropicals warm).
The other is so big I only use it when there is a crowd.
This is for you ...welcome home ^_^
http://www.diypizzaovens.com.au/
bennythejet
Melbourne
Australia

June 17, 2011
7:07 AM

Post #8636018

Hi Ginger,

I certainly hope you got around to building your oven, there's a pretty solid following for here in Australia! You should (if you haven't already) check out Forno Bravo - they offer a set of 100% free pizza oven plans which are very much worth looking at. Check out http://www.melbournefirebricks.com.au for materials.
gardengal
se qld
Australia

June 17, 2011
3:30 PM

Post #8636967

Ginger, if your library has it, Kiko Denzer's "Build Your Own Earth Oven" is very good, and easy to follow.

There was a brickworks here that is in the process of closing down, as the property is apparently worth better money as real estate than they're making from bricks. They were selling fire bricks, and because we were not really ready for them, I procrastinated in buying them. The next thing I drove past one day and much of their yard had been flattened over the weekend. I enquired about whether I was still able to get fire bricks, buth they'd apparently been crushed. :(

The chap there did tell me though that for some time they'd been selling regular solid clay bricks for the purpose. They're apparently fired at 1000 degrees anyway, which is likely to be considerably hotter than an oven would get anyway, so may be worth considering if refractory bricks turn out to be dreadfully expensive.

Pam

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 17, 2011
4:10 PM

Post #8637048

We have a gardening show on TV in Melbourne called "Vasili's garden" and his show is from ordinary backyards...where people
have the veggies, grapevines, fruit trees and so on...well it's amazing how many people have homemade Pizza ovens and what they do cook in them...

So we will look forward to watching each step in the building of Ginger's homemade Pizza oven...Have fun.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 17, 2011
5:49 PM

Post #8637254

ha ha ha Pam and Dianne you didn't look at the date Ginger left years ago, I think he was an American living in Australia for a while ...a shame because he was great fun.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 17, 2011
6:21 PM

Post #8637328

Caught nicely, so we really replied to bennythejet...oh well...I enjoy just the thought of the Pizzas.

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 17, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8637394

Love vasili and his backyard gardens Dianne ... so funny looking back at that old thread, you can't even get at my big brick BBQ any longer for the Jungle ...it's a heat bank though.
g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

June 18, 2011
3:08 AM

Post #8637849

was vasili the one with the 'massive haunting' head?

lucas13

lucas13
Victoria
Australia

June 18, 2011
3:15 AM

Post #8637854

http://www.vasilisgarden.com/

he's certainly a character!

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 18, 2011
6:32 PM

Post #8639147

What do you mean,Anthony...Vasili is lovely...no funny heads there...

This is a pic from one of his shows...Maresi...

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 18, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8639257

We could learn a lot from these gardeners ... they are almost self sufficient food wise, but it's the love of their gardens that inspires me. These people came from places where if you didn't grow your food you starved, this was the same for many of our grandparents too.
The big difference is that overseas they had to store much of their foods for the snowy extended Winters so in the warm months it was working from dawn to dusk in the garden and pushing the growth as hard as possible to ensure food stores for those Winters to com. This mostly fell to the women as the husbands were usually gone off to work.
Here we even have food growing in Winter and these people feel like they have come to paradise. I so admire them.
Vasili shows us how they not only grow their food but how they preserve it.
ginger749

June 26, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8656196

Hi to every one who has answered this thread.

When I first posted it 3 years ago.
I asked if anyone was interested in seeing some Pictures of the Pizza Oven progress.
I did not go ahead as there was only one reply from Chrissy.

I have been in Tully for the past 5 months doing Cyclone relief help.
I originally went up there for one weeks voluntary work.
But one week dragged into one month and on and on.
I started out helping around the township of Tully. (no building, only clearing trees)
But as time went on I moved slowly west.
One only had to drive less than a kilometre to find more destruction.
My help consisted mainly of tree lopping and tree removal from roads and tracks.

The hardest part wad I had to live in my two man tent for 5 months as there was no accommodation.
The first two weeks of camping was quite fun.
But that soon wore off.

Anyway, I'm back and now my own garden is in desperate need of a big clean up.

I will post the Pizza Oven Pictures during this week if there is still interest ?

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 26, 2011
7:56 PM

Post #8656693

Hi Ginger ! happy to see you back ...wow you really do get around, yes I would love to see some pics of your pizza oven and a thread with pics of your wanderings in a new thread too.
Just curious are you from America ? I can't remember why I thought you might be, perhaps another Ginger over there.
Anyway it's great to have you back ...poor Tully huh? ...poor QLD.
Glad to hear things are happening up there to aid these flood victims.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 26, 2011
9:36 PM

Post #8656860

Start posting Ginger, post your garden pics too...
ginger749

June 27, 2011
1:07 PM

Post #8657970

[quote="chrissy100"]Just curious are you from America ? I can't remember why I thought you might be, perhaps another Ginger over there.
Anyway it's great to have you back ...poor Tully huh? ...poor QLD.
Glad to hear things are happening up there to aid these flood victims.[/quote]
Yes there is an American Ginger. They are not very active though.
And because the name was taken I became Ginger749. ;o)
And I have never been to the US of A.
We have much better National Parks here in Australia.
ginger749

June 27, 2011
1:12 PM

Post #8657977

The slab on the left was to become my Pizza Ovens new home.
I decided to add another step to the Veranda Steps.
They were a tad steep as they were.
And I wanted them to finish beyond the front of the Pizza Oven.

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
1:26 PM

Post #8657996

The new steps will be made out of Granite slabs to match the Pizza Oven surround.

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
1:31 PM

Post #8658001

Left hand wall of Pizza Oven is nearly completed.

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
1:35 PM

Post #8658008

Left, right and back support walls now completed.

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gardengal
se qld
Australia

June 27, 2011
2:15 PM

Post #8658096

Great pics Ginge. It's always good to see things done by a 'real person' - makes it seem more achievable. It's on our list of things 'to do', but golly, it's a long list.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 27, 2011
2:32 PM

Post #8658133

That's looking great, good spot next to the veranda...
Don't forget to swing the camera to the left...there's a jungle out there.
ginger749

June 27, 2011
5:49 PM

Post #8658469

Yes Seachange,
That is a Jungle out to the left.
Some of my later preogress Pictures do show that area a bit more.
That is where I took the Pictures of my Spangled Drongo.
You can read the story here:- http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1157650/

I agree completely with you Pam about that personal touch.


ginger749

June 27, 2011
5:53 PM

Post #8658480

Cuts were made in the top course of Besser Blocks so suspended floor could be tied into all support walls.
The suspended slab will fly out over back wall by 16 inches.

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8658494

Every build needs a supervise.
This is 'she who must be obeyed'. ;-(

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 27, 2011
7:35 PM

Post #8658744

oh I can hardly wait to see it finished ...are you making the actual dome yourself ?

I like the idea of the clay but the modern version may work better ...

I hope this works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N33N-eypaI&feature=related

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-a-Pizza-Oven/

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
9:58 PM

Post #8659045

Thanks Chrissy for the links.
But I finished the Oven more than two years ago.
And yes, I freeformed the dome.
Pictures of that stage will follow in their right order.
I will just add this Picture to show that it really is finished.

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ginger749

June 27, 2011
10:04 PM

Post #8659047

And this was one of the finished Pizzas. Yummmm!

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

June 27, 2011
10:50 PM

Post #8659108

Oh that's fantastic!!!!!
I love it!

Now to talk my Italian born hubby into one ...trouble is he still works (supposed to be semi retired) almost all the time so I may be waiting a while.
Congratulations you must love using it, do you make breads and roast things in it too?
gardengal
se qld
Australia

June 27, 2011
11:34 PM

Post #8659136

Awesome! What time shall we come for pizza, Ginge?

Pam

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 28, 2011
12:26 AM

Post #8659152

She who must be obeyed is obviously anticipating the future pizzas in that pic...the pizza in the pic looks delicious, I can almost smell it...
Dianne
ginger749

June 28, 2011
1:09 AM

Post #8659165

[quote="Seachanger"]She who must be obeyed is obviously anticipating the future pizzas in that pic...[/quote]

She is always there at happy hour with a glass of Vino, and an encouraging word.
But also never fails to ask, “when will it be finished ?”

ginger749

June 28, 2011
1:14 AM

Post #8659169

Because I wanted an arched doorway to the wood storage area underneath.
It caused me a few structural problems.
But I feel it looks way better than the square doorways.
I used ¾ deformed 'reo' bars to hold it all together.
They also go right down into the side walls to further tie it all together.
The rest of the suspended floor will also tie into this arch with four reo bars. (next lot of Pictures)

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
1:16 AM

Post #8659171

Beginning to fill the boxing with concrete.
Making sure there are no air bubbles in the arch.

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gardengal
se qld
Australia

June 28, 2011
2:26 PM

Post #8660446

But wait, there's more! What I want to know, is when do we get the steak knives? lol

You're such a tease, Ginge. hehehe

One thing's for sure, with all that reinforcing in there it's never going to fall apart.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever had a thermometer in there to see how hot it actually gets?

Pam

This message was edited Jun 29, 2011 7:27 AM
ginger749

June 28, 2011
6:50 PM

Post #8660995

[quote="gardengal"]One thing's for sure, with all that reinforcing in there it's never going to fall apart.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever had a thermometer in there to see how hot it actually gets?
Pam [/quote]

Without reo, the concrete will definitely crack and break up in time.
I once built an incinerator to burn household rubbish.
It lasted 12 months before it totally fell apart.
I now use a 44 gallon steel drum.

I have taken temperatures inside the Pizza Oven.
900deg C when fully heated.
The door thermometer was reading over 700. C
But I don't cook at those temperatures.
That is only to preheat the Oven.

All the coals are dragged out and the Oven is left to equalise.
Cooking can start at 450deg C.
A Big Pizza only takes two minutes too cook.
At that temperature I can cook 20 Pizzas.

Then all the Breads are Baked in there for the next day.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
7:01 PM

Post #8661036

The arch was left to dry for three days.
Then boxing was stripped and work began on props for main suspended slab.
This slab needed to be 7 inches thick.
It needs to be this thick to retain heat for approx 5 hours cooking.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8661065

I decided to put a double layer of mesh into the main suspended slab.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8661097

Even before the slab was dry, I was laying out the Granite blocks to see how it would look.
Granite is one of the natural stone that will take in excess of 1500 deg C plus, without cracking.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8661139

Once again concrete was left for 3 days to cure before boxing was removed.

At this stage I was very pleased with the Suspended Slab.

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g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

June 28, 2011
8:17 PM

Post #8661234

looking very good,..,mmmmmmm!,.,.do you home deliver?

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 28, 2011
8:42 PM

Post #8661273

20 pizzas, Ginger...well there are about 20 of us, allowing 2 for Anthony...so here we come!
I will bring some rhubarb wine...nice contrast...


Ginger, one of your old threads has popped up in the lower part of this page '' Other threads you may be interested in"...good read
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=2955216...

Is that Goanna still around?



This message was edited Jun 29, 2011 3:32 PM
ginger749

June 28, 2011
10:17 PM

Post #8661397

Yes Dianne,

The Black Dog has gone to heaven.
But the Carpet Python is still growing bigger by the day.

Re: Pizzas.
Just give me 48 hours notice before you lobb up for a feed of 'Stone Fired Pizzas'.
That's how long it takes me to prepare dough.

ps: It is BYO booze here. I hope that is OK with you ?

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
10:26 PM

Post #8661405

Oh! by the way.
You will need to 'toss' your own Pizza Base as well.
But I promise you it is the highlight of the night.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
10:34 PM

Post #8661414

More base tossing.

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

June 28, 2011
11:26 PM

Post #8661453

That sounds like lots of fun, especially after the Rhubarb wine...but in all honesty the thought of that huge snake still being around and getting bigger, worries me a bit...do you have any chickens or pets now?
ginger749

June 28, 2011
11:56 PM

Post #8661462

Yes Dianne,
We still have JACK.
And 7 Black Chooks.
There are also 10 black sheep keeping grass in check.

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ginger749

June 28, 2011
11:59 PM

Post #8661464

Black Sheep.

Oh yeah,
And two Horses.

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g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

August 12, 2011
2:59 AM

Post #8751612

hold you up to the offer ginger,one day, i'll go on a holiday-anthony
ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:05 PM

Post #8754239

Don't wait too long Anthony.
The Road is beckoning me to do some 'grey nomad exploring'.

Just got back from my latest one month trip.
Can anyone guess where I went ?

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:10 PM

Post #8754244

I'll kick start the Pizza Oven build progress.
The floor bricks were laid on a 40 mm bed of washed river sand.
The entire Oven will sit on these bricks only.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:14 PM

Post #8754259

I laid out the first two rows of wall bricks.
This was to establish the total internal floor space.
It's big enough to roast a full lamb.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:21 PM

Post #8754275

A special fire cement is used to glue these bricks to the floor.
The temperature inside the Oven can reach 1200 deg C.
These bricks will take a temperature more than 2200 deg C.
Without bellows I will never see this high temperature.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:25 PM

Post #8754288

This is the second layer of fire bricks.
The styrene box is to save on sand which I will fill the Oven with to form the roof shape.
But more of the roof later.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:28 PM

Post #8754295

Second layer of bricks now completed.
Did some painting while waiting for glue to dry.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:33 PM

Post #8754308

The reason for the two rows of bricks at the bottom is so the Pizza Peel doesn't damage the clay walls.
Or when new wood is thrown into the back of the Oven.

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ginger749

August 13, 2011
3:36 PM

Post #8754315

My last Picture for today.

A layer of plastic was placed inside the Oven to protect the new fire bricks from mould and cement stains.

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

August 13, 2011
5:34 PM

Post #8754571

Would that be Canberra, Ginger...I haven't been I'm ashamed to say...
One of these days..
Hope that you are getting plenty of use out of your oven...I bet you are.
Where are you off to next?

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 13, 2011
10:56 PM

Post #8755182

Fantastic ...wish I had one of those.
I will con hubby into one when he retires (perhaps at 80) oh well ...just as well I am patient.
What a great job and such a lot of work !
So where now?
ginger749

August 14, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8756689

Yes Dianne,
That sure is Canberra.
There was a dead still day when I took this Picture.
Pity the flag was so limp.

Chris,
Surely you can talk DOH into doing it sooner than when he turns 80 ?
Bring him up here and let him see the advantages of having one of these so close to the main entertainment area.
ginger749

August 14, 2011
7:13 PM

Post #8756693

The final shape is now formed out of wet sand.

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ginger749

August 14, 2011
7:13 PM

Post #8756695

The outside of The fire bricks are then parged to begin the outside shape of what my kids now call 'The Turtle'.

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ginger749

August 14, 2011
7:17 PM

Post #8756700

At this stage I was once again extremely happy with the Ovens location in the overall scheme of things.

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ginger749

August 14, 2011
7:19 PM

Post #8756703

This is the shaped form-work to support the fire brick entrance to the Oven.

I have also finished the black marble floor inside the wood box underneath.

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ginger749

August 14, 2011
10:07 PM

Post #8756892

[quote="chrissy100"]So where now?[/quote]
My next trip away is to WA.

I have been reading a lot about Harold Lasseter.
Can Yall imagine being the first person to find Harold's treasure ?
Harold's son, Bob, who is now 85 years old has made 30 expeditions into the Australian Heart to try to find Lasseter's Reef.
But would a father really tell his 5 year old son where to find 'the treasure' ?
I think not.

Here is a link to Lasseter's story: http://www.abc.net.au/rural/content/2010/s2871000.htm



chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 15, 2011
3:15 AM

Post #8757029

I saw a documentry about it many many years ago ...fascinating.
Are you going to have a bit of a look around ?
My Uncle bought back a bag full of Opals from Lightening Ridge and he also has a collection of saphires (can't remember where they came from) I wish I had paid more attention to his stories as a child ...but being kids we just wanted to see his magic tricks.

My thoughts on Australia's reef of Gold is that it is probably on sacred ground and covered in tons of sand, like all self respecting treasures :).

Remember this ?
http://simplyaustralia.net/article-gs-dreaming.html

About my hubby ...he still works almost around the clock and he turns 74 next month so it's only about 6 years until he really retires.
gardengal
se qld
Australia

August 15, 2011
2:11 PM

Post #8757984

So you were a child bride then Chrissy?

Ginge, when you go to WA will you be looking at plants or rocks? I recently came accross a page that provides several itineraries for self-drive wild flower tours of the south western corner. Let me know if you'd like the link.

Pam

chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 15, 2011
3:28 PM

Post #8758129

Yes ^_^ Pam , hubby was a cradle snatcher.

Ginge please send in pics of your travels, sounds exciting ! and we have so enjoyed the Pizza Oven Build .
ginger749

August 15, 2011
7:22 PM

Post #8758470

Pam, My main reason for going to look for LLR is to get rich.
But I will still be taking lots of Plant Pictures during my trip.
I won't be going for at least a year.
And yes, I would be very interested in your link.

Chris, Try stopping me from sending/posting Pictures of my journey.
As long as I am standing upright I will be taking Pictures. ^_^ ^_^
ginger749

August 15, 2011
7:24 PM

Post #8758475

The cement used to lay the arch-bricks is a special cement-sand mix.
The formwork is removed right away to allow for brick cleaning.

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ginger749

August 15, 2011
7:25 PM

Post #8758479

The arch is then tied into the Bottom two rows of bricks.

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ginger749

August 15, 2011
7:28 PM

Post #8758484

The chimney can now be put in place.
A thin layer of cardboard is placed around the chimney to allow for concrete expansion.
Blue plastic is cut and taped to follow new dome shape.

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

August 16, 2011
12:10 AM

Post #8758890

[quote="ginger749"]Pam, My main reason for going to look for LLR is to get rich.
[/quote]

Now that's a nice honest answer, Ginge...

If you find it on your travels, give us a call..we are all experienced diggers...lol
It would be fantastic wouldn't it...just imagine..
Dianne.
ginger749

August 16, 2011
1:35 PM

Post #8759740

[quote="chrissy100"]My thoughts on Australia's reef of Gold is that it is probably on sacred ground and covered in tons of sand, like all self respecting treasures :).
[/quote]

Looks like I will need to bring a few shovels.
I do have time on my side.
ginger749

August 16, 2011
1:38 PM

Post #8759745

[quote="Seachanger"]
If you find it on your travels, give us a call..we are all experienced diggers...lol
[/quote]

I will call all the Aussie people on DG.
Looks like we all know how to dig holes. ;-)
ginger749

August 16, 2011
1:48 PM

Post #8759759

Once the chimney is in place and the final shape has been established it was time to cover the shape with paper mache.
This will burn off later and leave a nice smooth finish inside the Oven.

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ginger749

August 16, 2011
1:51 PM

Post #8759765

It was now time to form the outer door-way arch. (not fire bricks)
This arch must not touch the inner dome or arch in any way.
I left a 20 mm gap.
The inner dome can expand up to 15 mm during a big firing.
And if the two arches were joined the whole outer shell and arch would simply crack.

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ginger749

August 16, 2011
5:33 PM

Post #8760044

Once again the form is removed right away for cleaning.

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ginger749

August 16, 2011
5:34 PM

Post #8760045

The top step was out of square so I used all the broken Granite bits to make a pattern.
No one has ever noticed it was 60 mm out of square.

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ginger749

August 16, 2011
5:41 PM

Post #8760066

This inner layer is made up of normal Potters Clay and a very small amount of cement.
In time the cement will completely vaporise.
But the clay will get harder and harder with each and every Firing.

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gardengal
se qld
Australia

August 19, 2011
3:12 PM

Post #8765238

Ginge, the link I found for self drive wildflower tours is here.

http://www.australiascoralcoast.com/en/Things_to_see_and_do/Pages/Wildflowers.aspx

I can almost smell the pizza cooking from here. A couple of quick questions - the blue plastic, does that actually stay inside the wall? And did you use high-alumina cement /fire cement or just GP for the majority of the build?

Pam
ginger749

August 19, 2011
3:55 PM

Post #8765292

Thanks Pam for that link.

And no to your question about the blue plastic.
It comes out when first layer of clay concrete mix is dry.
And The cement I used was Fire Cement.

The next four pictures will show you the process. ;-)
ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:02 PM

Post #8765301

I let the internal roof clay dry out for 3 weeks.
And then the door was removed and the sand was dug out.

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ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:04 PM

Post #8765308

The styrene box was broken up so it could be removed out through the door.

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ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:06 PM

Post #8765311

The blue plastic was then dragged out after all the sand had been dug out.

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ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:07 PM

Post #8765315

This is now what the inside of the Oven dome looks like.

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ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:13 PM

Post #8765326

The dome needed to be kept wet constantly till I had fully shaped it out.
I used wet towels (much to the disgust of she who must be obeyed).

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ginger749

August 19, 2011
4:15 PM

Post #8765330

Shaping up the last bit of the inner/first dome.
The entire dome is made up of six different layers.
But more of them later.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 19, 2011
10:14 PM

Post #8765762

What a big job Ginge I might have to use a pizza stone until I get the real deal.
So when are you off again ?
ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:32 PM

Post #8766902

It's Sunday morning and it's pouring rain here in Brisvegas.
So I'm listening to Macca on the ABC as one does on any Sunday mornings.

Chris, I am going to France for three months to build a Pizza Oven for a friend.
That will be before Xmas.
So my treasure hunting trip to WA will be mid next year.
ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:38 PM

Post #8766911

Can anyone remember the 'Big Dust Storm' we had in 2009 ?
I took this Picture on the 23 of September the day our world seemed to go crazy.
The dust storm lasted a couple of days.
Swimming Pool went pink, Washing got dirty, and Cars got muddy.

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ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:42 PM

Post #8766917

It was now time to cure the first clay layer.
A small fire was lit for 4 hours.

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ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:43 PM

Post #8766918

It was then loaded up and door was put in place to bring heat up to 700 deg for a few more hours.

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ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:46 PM

Post #8766921

Next was the 25 mm thick 'Fire Blanket'.
This layer was glued to clay layer with fire proof glue.

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ginger749

August 20, 2011
3:51 PM

Post #8766934

Most Ovens only use one roll of Fire Blanket.
But I needed to buy two rolls because of my bigger design.
Roll can be seen on the ground next to Oven.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 20, 2011
7:34 PM

Post #8767591

France huh ? wow, my Grand daughter is winging her way back from a year overseas , I can hardly wait to hear all about her adventures ,
France will be wonderful ...please take lots of pictures, will you be exploring over there?
Anything special you want to see while there ?

I have a nephew who bought back a dear little French wife after working in France, he was shocked at the small portions of food they eat ...he says they all smoke and sip a little wine,and hardly ever eat much. That was most surprising because we always think of food when France is mentioned.
Interested to hear how what you think. :)
gardengal
se qld
Australia

August 22, 2011
1:47 PM

Post #8771328

Ginge, I'm guessing a granite slab might possibly not be as stable (ie suitable) as marble for the base? There's a factory here that makes granite benchtops, and for a brief moment figured an offcut might be suitable ... would it have a risk of cracking?
ginger749

August 22, 2011
3:10 PM

Post #8771530

I will answer Pams question first.
On the contrary, Granite is a far better and stable heat retainer than marble.

Granite (igneous rock) typically consisting of the minerals quartz, feldspar, and biotite mica.
I have the grey type it may also be pink depending on the composition of the feldspar.

Granite is formed when magma (molten rock) is forced between other rocks in the Earth's crust.
It cools and crystallizes deep underground.
As it cools slowly large crystals are formed.

Marble is a porous and inhomogeneous stone. It may crack.
Marble is used in statues, buildings, tomb stones, fireplace mantles, floor tiles, and kitchen counter tops.
Marble is a metamorphic rock (rock that has been altered by heat or pressure).
It is soft and is easy to carve or cut into shapes. (key word here is 'soft')
This is why it is used to make statues.^_^

ginger749

August 22, 2011
3:16 PM

Post #8771536

Chris, I have only been to Paris once.
My DW and I went on a one month tour around France in 1974.
A lot of things have changed there since then.
We rented a car and camped the whole time.
So we did not get to know any of the native custems.
ginger749

August 22, 2011
3:31 PM

Post #8771610

Getting back to Pams question.

This is a Picture of one of the spare Granite slabs I used in my BBQ while I was building the Pizza Oven.
I would heat it up in the BBQ for one hour at 400 deg. to get it ready.
It works really well.
I had a Marble tile I once put in the BBQ,
It only cracked and broke into many pieces.

Here is a neat link that could prove me wrong: http://www.hotstones.com/
A little searching in the link might be necesary.

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ginger749

August 22, 2011
3:35 PM

Post #8771614

Close up of the finished Pizza.

It takes about 8 minutes to bake in the BBQ.
But it only takes 2 minutes in the Stone Fired Pizza Oven.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 22, 2011
4:24 PM

Post #8771669

Now that is naughty Ginge ...I haven't had time for brekky yet !!!! ^_^
I agree re Granite !

Ginge you have inspired me to make a Sea Change ...pushing my hubby into real retirement in a couple of years.
You are a well travelled man, where would you go to settle in your senior years.
I want an acre or two in a rural area.
Self sufficient as possible.
Any suggestions (NSW) ??? been looking down Berrima and Bundanoon, not 100% sure to go North or South as I don't know these places and can't go look as I am caring for someone.
Hints to google would be most welcome.

Oh and I am sure you will love France, my nephew spent years there. He worked in the fishery science for fish farming.
gardengal
se qld
Australia

August 23, 2011
1:49 PM

Post #8773309

Thanks for that Ginge. And I'm glad you mentioned the barbecue, as I'd have probably built it in as the floor otherwise.

Totally different subject - we have a 'sizzle stone' (same set up as at the top of the page you linked to, Ginge) and absolutely love it on the odd occasions we bring it out for visitors - produces absolutely delicious food and keeps them entertained, fighting over cooking space. lol

Good luck with the property search, Chrissy.
ginger749

August 23, 2011
7:18 PM

Post #8773829

Sorry Chris.^_^

Sounds good Pam.
ginger749

August 23, 2011
7:19 PM

Post #8773831

A double layer of silver sarking is placed over the 'Fire Blanket'.
The outer layer of silver paper is painted black.
A layer of Chicken wire is put over the silver sarking to hold the 40 mm layer of 'Vermiculite' in place.
Without the wire, the Vermiculite would simply slide to the base.

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ginger749

August 23, 2011
7:19 PM

Post #8773834

The Silver sarking is to stop moisture from this layer leaking into the Fire Blanket.

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ginger749

August 23, 2011
7:20 PM

Post #8773836

The fire is once again lit to help dry out the last two layers.

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ginger749

August 23, 2011
7:21 PM

Post #8773838

I couldn't help myself baking a sample Pizza.
Yumm ! Pretty nice.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 23, 2011
9:26 PM

Post #8774044

cheeky bu**er ^_^ waving that under our noses.

Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

August 25, 2011
11:53 PM

Post #8777441

Ginge.. the other day I looked at some commercial Pizza ovens and found myself looking for all the details that you have put into this thread...
The commercial ones look so fragile compared with yours...
The thickness of the walls and the width of the actual oven...they looked like cheap imitations.
Congrats again on one heck of an achievement...
That friend in France is very lucky he/she will be the envy of their friends.
Dianne
g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

August 27, 2011
3:00 AM

Post #8779196

Yes agreed, he certainly builds a classy oven
ginger749

August 29, 2011
9:38 PM

Post #8784295

The New Pizza Oven is now ready for a serious try out.

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ginger749

August 29, 2011
9:41 PM

Post #8784301

All ingredients are prepared in advance.
And dough is made ready to rise.

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ginger749

August 29, 2011
9:43 PM

Post #8784307

Dough has risen and the Pizza is ready to design.
I let all my rug-rats design their own Pizza's.

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ginger749

August 29, 2011
9:47 PM

Post #8784312

Dough has risen and the Pizza is ready to design.
I let all my rug-rats design their own Pizza's.
Good fun. ^_^

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

August 30, 2011
4:14 AM

Post #8784499

I have thoroughly enjoyed this ...even if you go about waving those delicious home made pizzas under our noses ^_^

Watched the search for the Golden reef last night on the TV ...very interesting.
ctmorris
barmera
Australia

August 30, 2011
5:29 AM

Post #8784642

I'll have a bit more cheese on mine thanks Ginge. Great job. Has been fun watching you build the oven. Thank you for taking the time to share it with us. Enjoy yourselves in France. While you're gone your oven might disappear. lol. Colleen
ginger749

August 30, 2011
5:08 PM

Post #8785680

I'm sorry about teasing you Chris. ^_^
This was the finished Pizza.
It took four of us three minutes to devour this beauty.

Colleen, It would take many people to pick it up and run off with it.
Just make friends with 'Jack' and my son and you could come and use it any time you like.
Just bring your own good quality fire wood.

Thanks for your compliment's Dianne and G_whizz.

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ginger749

August 30, 2011
5:10 PM

Post #8785686

A couple of weeks after burning it in properly.
I invited a leading Brisvegas Restaurateur/Chef to come and try it out seriously for me.
He and his wife came with nothing but some Indian Pizza toppings.
I learnt a lot about keeping the Oven floor at a constant temp.
A great day was had by all.

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ginger749

August 30, 2011
5:20 PM

Post #8785705

This one got a little too much heat.
It only took ten minutes to devour this one. ^_^
It was meant to be a healthy Pizza.????
How does one make a healthy Pizza ?

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ginger749

August 30, 2011
5:25 PM

Post #8785718

My DSIL thought he would try to eat this one on his own without using his hands. ;-)

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Seachanger

Seachanger
Clifton Springs
Australia

August 30, 2011
8:39 PM

Post #8786060

I shouldn't look at your postings before I eat...that looks delicious.
gardengal
se qld
Australia

September 3, 2011
1:46 PM

Post #8791731

[quote="ginger749"]
I learnt a lot about keeping the Oven floor at a constant temp.

[/quote]

Anything that can be condensed down into a couple of lines Ginge.

I've thoroughly enjoyed your posts too. Thanks a million for taking the trouble.

Pam

ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:26 PM

Post #8792219

I will give it a try Pam.

Pine is great for starting the fire.
But it does not penetrate the bricks.
I can get the Oven temp. up to 1000 plus in no time with pine.
But it won't hold the heat in for more than around one hour.
As soon as there is a rip/roaring fire in the middle of the floor.
I now begin to slowly introduce the hard wood only.
Iron bark is a very cold burning wood so avoid if possible.
I use mainly Ghost gum or Box.
All cut down from around my own Dam.
This fire is kept up for about four hours.

Re Picture: I prefer to hand work my Pizza dough into required shape.

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ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:27 PM

Post #8792220

Tossing is a lot of fun when guests are around.

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ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:35 PM

Post #8792222

This particular night there were 16 guests.
I never re stoked the fire once the baking began.
Every one got a turn at tossing and design their own Pizzas.
Supervised by 'she who must be obeyed'.
They even got a try at turning them inside the Oven.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention the red hot coals were pushed to the very back of Oven

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ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:41 PM

Post #8792225

Watching others tossing was the entertainment/highlight of the evening.
Some were scraped up off the floor and reworked a second time. ^_^

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ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:45 PM

Post #8792226

This night we tried our hand at desert Pizzas for the very first time .
It all got eaten, so it must have been OK.

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ginger749

September 3, 2011
11:46 PM

Post #8792227

A close up.

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chrissy100

chrissy100
Sydney
Australia

September 4, 2011
3:47 AM

Post #8792285

oh yum yum ...i hope you had a great father's day ginge ^_^

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