DH purchased me a Professional 600 KitchenAid and it arrived yesterday, while reading the instruction booklet I noticed it made mention of the fact that beating times should be shortened due to the fact that KitchenAid brand stand mixers beat at a higher revolution rate than other stand mixers. My question is this...Since most of my pastry/banking recipes are from professional chefs and are written with the assumption that one will be using a stand mixer do you think this would still be the case? After all I know very few that don't either use a KitchenAid, Viking or Cuisinart and all of these are high speed stand mixers.
For most recipes I could wing it by sight but my cheesecake is a bit of a diva and likes her long mix times.
You'll probably be find with your usual times. To test this, you could mix up a batch of whipped cream. Keep an eye on it and see if it whips up firmly in shorter time or not. If you overwhip, keep going until you've got butter.
I only overmixed in the beginning because I was used to a sunbeam mixmaster from the 60's that my grandmom gave me. i guess it depends upon what your last machine was. it's a learning curve like anything else.
I do it by eye and ear now, using the times as a guideline only.
My mom's is slightly different than mine which is different from the one at her cabin. I think each mixer has it's own personality and you just have to get to know it.
I think the whipped cream test would probably be the best to determine differences.
Enjoy your new mixer. I saved up for a year to get mine and it was worth every penny.
I nicknamed her *the mangler*
You all will love you new mixer, I have had mine since 1982, best investment I ever made.
If you do your own grinding the grinding attachment is a must have. I use it at Christmas time to make my nut filling for breads and grind nuts for Mexican tea cakes. Makes the job easy!
the money you save by being able to make things at home is a good argument to get one. I bake most of our baked goods from scratch now. I don't hear dh complaining when he's sinking his teeth into a freshly made brownie, muffin or bread. :D
I haven't started on the bread yet as I've been busy baking cakes...word got out at DH work and I sell 3 or 4 a week, I don't make much per cake if I figure in my time I probably go in the hole but I'm having a blast and it's nice to know that people really enjoy made from scratch cakes & pies.
Please pass along any recipes, I can't wait to try new things. I purchased several books that have tons of great cakes etc in them but since we don't eat those types of things I can only make them to send to work.
Done with one of the carrot cakes, the other is hardening a bit from the crumb coating I have to use as the guy I make them for ask they not be frozen. grated enough carrots that I made the DH one to take to the hoard at work..
P.S. it's not leaning I'm just a horrible photographer!
IT CAME!!! Someone must have gotten the wrong message because the FREE shipping was Priority Mail...WHOOOOA- must have cost a fortune!!! Anyway, it's here and I am reading instructions tomorrow with the machine in front of me. BUT - I can't find the rebate!!! OH well, it was a GREAT price.
Can't wait to make Bob's cookies, now...with ONE bowl to wash!
thanks, it was my first time using gumpaste and well...lol do hope I get better. Everyone raved over the carrot cake and it was the easiest of all my cakes to make. I kept it simple and didn't add the ginger that I like in mine but still thought it tasted pretty good...but then what wouldn't with cream cheese icing???
I got my mixer last Thanksgiving. I found it on sale and my sister bought it for me. She has used one forEVER and is on her second one (the first one found a new home). I did my Christmas cookie dough with it.. and let me tell you... it was the easiest and least strenuous thing in the world! No more breaking my back (or wrist) from stirring in flour and chocolate chips or M&M's. I love my mixer. I can't believe that I went so long without one. Never will go back to a hand held for big baking, that's for sure!
Mine has been making cookie dough for 30 years. Last year my DD borrowed to make her dough. Called me in tears cause she broke the mixer. Part to fix lift was all of $3 plus $5.95 S&H. Not sure I even know of another small kitchen appliance you can actually order parts for. I use it more now that I have a commercial kitchen than I did when it was new. The attachments all work great. I use it to seed and peel grapes and tomatoes, grind sausage, grate cheese, slice potatoes and cucumbers and peppers, shred cabbage but it doesn't do dishes ;>(
NO it is an attachment. They offer a couple of sets of assesories like http://www.everythingkitchens.com/kitchenaid_mixer_attachment_pack_FPPA.html This is just an example. Lots of online companies offer them. The fruit and vegetable strainer has a spiral. Juice and pulp fall into bowl toward the back. Seeds and skins come out the front. Just that slick! The picture in the center is the strainer. I like all three attachments. They also come apart and are easy to clean up.
May I bump this thread to ask a different question?
Hubby is warming up to the idea of a KitchenAid, but the task
of figuring out which one, is the difficulty.
It seems we are looking at 4.5 and 5 quart sizes. I have to ask,
what is the big difference in half a quart size?
Is the splatter shield worth the bother? Is the mixer that messy?
(Guess that depends on what you are mixing, though, LOL)
Also, we are puzzled about 'to lift' or 'not to lift'. Is the lift designed
more for heavy duty mixing such as breads and doughs, so as not to
make the mixer wobbly? It seems the one without a lift is better for
lighter mixes and such, yes?
We will hopefully be making much bread and pizza dough, acquiring a
grinder attachment and maybe, just maybe a pasta roller in the future.
WUVIE, I had the 5 quart Artisan but now have the 6 quart pro. There does seem to be a difference in what they can handle, at least for me. I don't know if this helps or not since you were asking about the 4.5 and 5 but I guess I would go with the best that you can afford. By the way I would not want to go without my KA. So much that I actually bought the 10 year extended warranty which is something I almost never do.
Karen Marie, I have had a refurbed commercial KA 6-quart for a couple years now, and I absolutely love it. Mine is the style that lifts the bowl to the beater, and it is a solid (and heavy) workhorse.
It makes short work out of bread kneading - even a huge batch of heavy sweet roll dough is a piece of cake for it. And I can make homemade marshmallows and divinity without missing a beat - I dont' know that I'd dare try either of those with a lesser machine. So I guess some of it depends on what you'd use it for. Some smaller cake batters are a little lost in my big 'ol 6 quart bowl. My mom has the slightly smaller Artisan (probably 5 quart) and she uses it a lot, but not for bread kneading - which is a shame, because she bakes more bread than I do, as a rule.
I also researched this a bit and went with the 6 qt. as I wanted it to be used to the maximum. It has the LIFT thingy which I like . I make heavy bread and cookies with mine...LOVE IT. I did find it less expensive thru Amazon.com than from the company itself.
OH...I got the shield but i have never used it... I might try but haven't needed it...
I also got a cover for it which doesn't scream USE ME as loudly!!!
I use the shield a lot. You can easily add ingredients without turning the mixer off. I also like the lift. My mixer is appx 30years old and has only been repaired once. I don't have the pasta attachments but have a friend who sells pasta at our market. She uses the attachments and makes great pasta! I agree. Buy the best you can and the 6 quart refurbished a a great value!
It's early and I'm still half asleep so my watts might be wrong but if I remember correctly 250-325 isn't heavy duty enough to knead bread. I have the Pro 600 and it can handle dough, but more importantly it breezes through buttercream which can be worse than a loaf of bread if you make a full batch.
I've already put in my request for this as an upcoming birthday, Mother's Day or Christmas gift - I could just order it myself, but that makes it doubly hard for my family to find anything to buy me when gift-giving times roll around.
Oh my gosh, thank you all so much! It sounds like I may need to check
into the 6 quart. After all, the kids are all young adults at this point, but you
never know when little ones and spouses might come along during family
get togethers. ;-)
With your help and a bit of homework, I have discovered that the gears seem
to be an issue. The Artisan has nylon and metal gears, which is a complaint of
many. Nylon / plastic. Plastic + bread dough = not good. Now this is not to say
that Artisan's are bad, we're just trying to avoid any difficulty from the get go.
Looks like we are going to go with the Professional 6 quart.
The only thing I'm wondering about is the head. It seems like I came across issues
about the head tilting or not tilting, and now I can't find that webpage. Silly question,
I guess, perhaps I overlooked it on the website. Does the head tilt back on all the
mixers or just some?
*** Wait, wait, I just found a page. The complaints are that the head
does not tilt back. Hmm. Maybe the search is not yet over, or maybe I'm just being
fussy. For those who do not have a head that tilts (this sounds funny, but we are
talking about mixers, LOL) does this present any issues other than having to
maneuver the bowl out from under the attachment, then scrape off all the batter or
The bowl lift takes some getting used to. There is a slight learning curve moving from a tilt head just because the action you use to remove the bowl is so different. I've had mine for a few years and I still sometimes go to tilt the head back! It is not too difficult though.
Here is a Youtube video about the Sideswipe beater that fits the Kitchenaid mixer. I bought one last fall, and can tell you first hand..it is fantastic! You NEVER have to scrape the sides of the bowl when mixing!
good afternoon all, I have never been in this forum before, and let me just say YUM!!! those cakes look devine and the chocolate cheesecake in the fridge was made for me, but alas I can not remember tasting it ha ha ha ha ha, and it was about a month early for my birthday lol. and not to mention the problems of getting it to australia, but it looks so good it would have been worth it.
You do a fantastic job and probably should charge more for your work!!!!
I have used my sideswip several times now and LOVE it...I agree it's worth every dime.
These are my latest...still learning but I'm having fun. The tiara was royal icing the "jewels" hard candy...learned that you never make hard candy without a funnel stopper...hard lesson to learn) everything was edible except the ribbon on the stem of the scepter.
Those are just beautiful, Araness! You mean to tell us you can't make the ribbon too????? LOL...Just teasing you! Fantastic work!
I was in the Kitchen Aid store just yesterday, in Greenville, Ohio...where ALL Kitchen Aid mixers are made.
The lady showed us all the attachments, and told us how they worked. What a lot of nice things you could do with all of them!
They even give classes there...and then you get to eat the food! I think they are just demo classes..no hands on...but still..they are free. You just show up!
In their basement, they have the refurbished mixers, plus a Kitchen Aid museum. They have mixers from the 20's up to now...and shows the progression of styles...among other things. They also have Julia Childs original Kitchen Aid mixer on display. They bought it back from her in 1999...when they gave her a new one for her shows.
It was all very interesting!
lol matter of fact I can make the ribbon...but it was 10 minutes until I had to deliver it. *G* so I cheated. I'd love to go to the museum. I love my KA stuff...love the stand mixer and wouldn't take anything for it.
Hi Araness, I see a few more of your lovely cakes. It is good that you are enjoying yourself. I signed up for a 5 weekend baking class. The instructor had 2 large Kitchen Aid stand mixers on her table. It was a breeze to work with them. Wow.
TwinLakesChef wrote:The right kitchen tools make all the difference in the kitchen.
I'm not a fan of having every little gadget known to man (my kitchen is too small), but having proper, well-made tools makes a huge difference on how easy it is to cook well, and enjoy the process.
And having enough tools is also important. For example, I am the proud owner of at least a half-dozen bowl scrapers, and there are many dinners that have found most - if not all - of them used for various dishes ;o)
To me...one of the worst jobs with mixing things, is stopping the mixer to scrape. Maybe my left hand has something to do with it??? But the Sideswipe has eliminated all that...what a blessing!!
Araness, I just knew you could make ribbon, if you could do all the other nice things in decorating! Many yrs ago, I used to decorate cakes too.
Talking about the left hand above...I should clarify that. I am left handed.
My challenge is that I LOVE gadgets . . bring one up and I probably have tried it. I also find that I buy gadgets and don't use them. It takes some training in my mind to get in the habbit of pulling them out and getting used to them.
Araness, I love the fondant cakes (what's inside of them?) and all of the desserts that you make. I finally had my first cake decorating class this afternoon with 2 more Saturdays to go. Then I will have completed course1. Eventually, I would like to work with fondant. Until then, I will peep at those great KA mixers at Macy's and on-line until I can have one of my very own.
Torries, one has a chocolate cake with a whipped ganache filling and fudge buttercream, another strawberry with champagne filling and buttercream the last strawberry with a fresh strawberry filling and buttercream.
Did you enjoy the class? LOL warn the DH now it's addictive...soon you will spend all your money on cakes...just a hint if you think you will continue on with this even on a semi casual basis don't buy the Wilton pans...try and get Magic Line or Fat Daddio's. Much better quality only a bit more and they bake so much better IMHO
Oh, the cakes sound delicious. Yumm. I have to bring a cake to the next class to frost and decorate.
That is the problem, no husband to complain about my spending habits. It is just me and the cat Torrie. I will be making
cakes for friends anniversaries and showers.
Thanks for the tip on the pans.
I've ben a KA fan for years starting out with the 5 qt. size...A year & a half ago I upgraded to the 6 qt. 600 series...I really liked it, but buyer beware there has ben alot of unhappy people w/ this model...When doing bread doughs the motor can stall out & dough hook won't turn, or a scraping sound can occur...The worst part of all this is how costly the repairs can be...I took mine in & they wanted $269 to repair it! After much research I found out alot of the internal parts near the motor are PLASTIC & no longer metal & these things break easily...Plus I heard Whirlpool is making these KA Mixers...
My old 5 qt. mixer I gave to a friend (I used it for over 8 yrs. w/ no prob's)
Received as a gift last week a new 5 qt. & they must have changed the model as the bowl on this model screws on the base & the head of mixer tilts back...To me it looks's more like the 4 qt. size...Not happy w/ it thus far...But can't justify the $269 to repair the broken 6 qt. one...Plus now I'm stuck w/ 2 -6 qt. mixing bowls that I can't use!
Araness, your cakes are impressive. I do hope you are charging what these are worth. Check out what bakeries are getting for cakes the quality of yours. I would certainly pay for these beauties!
But I just bought a Kitchenaid mixer,too! It is going to sabatage any diet I start. I have a lot to learn. Ina Gartin uses one for many of the recipes that she demonstrates on her show. Watching her is what gave me the overwhelmimg desire to make my own bread. If I can succeed at bread, it will be a miracle!
to date this is my fav...and we will not talk about the time it took...with all of my cakes I try very hard to make everything edible (except the supports of course) so chow down on those poker chips and playing cards!
this was the most recent done...I wasn't thrilled with how it turned out...it was harder than I thought. As soon as we get settled in Houston I'm going to try and find a basic painting class I need to learn how to paint wood textures etc
I live my KA for so many things.
The one thing that changed when I first got it was that I started using the KA mixer to mix ground beef and chicken for meat loaf or filling.
It's just so quick and easy that I haven't mixed ground meat by hand since I got it.
I have never minded but I understand that there are people who don't like to stick their hands in raw meat.
Love, love , love my KA. I have the shredder attachement. Makes real short work of shredding cheese. I really need a new paddle beater for mine; the plastic stuff is coming off and looks unsightly. Works ok, tho.
Have to tell you a funny one, tho. In 2011 and 2012 I spent 2 weeks in New York doing a custom cow milking job. I stayed in the client's house (house-sitting, if you will) along with the cow job. My days were free, and my client doesn't bake. Hates it, as a matter of fact. Soooo...I baked up a storm. This last time I made her 3 loaves of bread, a dozen HUGE cinnamon rolls and frosting, and about 10 batches of cookie dough and put it all in her freezer. She has one of those old Sunbeam Mixmasters. *yes, I know, but I had to cope with it*. I am going out again this year and since my Spousal Unit is driving out (I am flying) I said I was going to pack my KA and he was going to bring it for me. I told her she would be amazed at what I could accomplish with my KA. She said "I am amazed what you do with the Sunbeam". Then I told her she would be overwhelmed at what she would find in her freezer when she gets back. LOL