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Hypertufa and Concrete: A test using concrete in ceramic molds...the results

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scarediecat
Ashland City, TN

August 29, 2009
7:15 PM

Post #7001932

I have been reading this forum for some time – trying to learn enough so that I can create my own projects from concrete. I have read several places about the question of “can you use ceramic molds with concrete?” I have about 1500 ceramic molds – I do pottery and ceramics with slip. I did have about 2400 mold but have been selling them for 1.00 each so that I can have some room in my shed and I can’t lift heavy molds any more.

I decided to do an experiment with some flower pot ceramic molds that I am not that attached to. I mixed up some Portland cement and sand (didn’t take the time to follow the directions on the proper mixture for “hypertufa” at that time because I was in a hurry – it was getting dark). With one mold (the first photo) I put a 13 oz trash bag into the mold and pulled it down around the outside of the mold to protect the mold – there was so much of the trash bag left over that it worked out well that way. I then put a bowling ball into a Wal-Mart bag and sat it on a small medicine bottle that I had placed in the bottom middle of the mold. The medicine bottle kept the bowling ball from settling in the bottom of the mold making the concrete too thin in that location. I then poured some of the concrete mixture down into the bottom of the flower pot and around the bowling ball. I let the concrete dry over night.

The next day I opened the mold and it came out very easy BUT the concrete had picked up the print of the wrinkled trash bag instead of the mold. Also, I could not get the bowling ball out even by pulling on the Wal-Mart bag it was wrapped in BECAUSE the top of the flower pot MOLD curved in slightly. So I tried chipping around the top of the bowling ball but this eventually broke off edges of the concrete. Once I finally got the ball out I chipped off the top part of the concrete and just made a half ball – but it will still hold a plant. I can fix the broken top piece (see photo) with mortar because I plan on covering it with mosaic.

The mold was not damaged because the bag protected it. Next time – instead of using a bowling ball, I would use a ball that I could let the air out of OR I would use a Wal-Mart bag and fill it with sand so that I could pour the sand out once the concrete dried enough. I would also be very careful to follow the directions for mixing hypertufa.
The second photo shows the second smaller flower pot that I used vaseline on instead of the trash bag...

This message was edited Aug 29, 2009 2:29 PM

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HoosierGreen
Danville, IN

September 20, 2009
3:15 PM

Post #7084057

Ingenious! Sometimes you can discover new techniques for old materials. Seems to have worked well for you.
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN

September 21, 2009
5:25 PM

Post #7087926

If it will ever stop raining I have great plans for several of the molds.
TARogers5
Kingston, OK
(Zone 7a)

September 30, 2009
1:30 AM

Post #7118282

I have done one and still have the mold. I sealed in with Thompson's sealer and then used pam to coat it before pouring in the cement. Worked Great.
Wire brushed it to get the look I wanted.

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scarediecat
Ashland City, TN

September 30, 2009
1:38 AM

Post #7118308

oooohhhh...love the colors. How did you get them? I will certainly give that sealer and pam a try if that is how they come out looking.
TARogers5
Kingston, OK
(Zone 7a)

October 1, 2009
12:01 AM

Post #7121551

Pigments are mixed in with the cement. Layered
scarediecat
Ashland City, TN

October 1, 2009
11:19 AM

Post #7122758

very nice combo!! I'll give it a try next time.
biddy52
BROOKFIELD
Australia

March 14, 2012
7:12 PM

Post #9043098

TARogers5 wrote:I have done one and still have the mold. I sealed in with Thompson's sealer and then used pam to coat it before pouring in the cement. Worked Great.
Wire brushed it to get the look I wanted.



Love the effect!

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Mauibarry
Mapleton, OR
(Zone 7b)

March 15, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #9044146

Aloha, scarediecat,
Congratulations on your results with ceramic molds! You have learned well, and your bowls look really nice. Maybe you could repair the cracked area, using a slurry of portland cement like glue - or, make about four balls of of your mix to attach as feet, with the larger ones under the lower (broken) part of the rim, to tilt it up. You might have to drill a second drain hole, though. Please show us how it works out. Great start!

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