It has been very slow here on the japanese maples forum this summer. Too busy watering our trees maybe. To jump start some activity here i plan to post a picture or two of a jm per day. I have about 40+ jm's here most are new purchases over the past three years.
Please feel free to share some pictures of your trees. I would especially be interested in seeing some of our original members more mature trees.
Here is a picture of Shirazz which is my favorite jm, with a new bloodgood in the background that was purchased to replace the old one which passed on due to a large crack in its bark which some of you may remember.
and here in beni hime which i also like very much - and i thank snapple for me about this tree - i purchased one last november that did not survive over wintering - lesson learned and one that David(sans) preaches - replaced it this spring and will keep this stored in the garage for safe keeping this winter.
And here is a crimson queen looking anything but crimson . . . this tree is in almost total shade so it only turns crimson late in the season which, around here, is December. On the plus side, it's one of the few JMs that I have that doesn't suffer from sun burn.
GardenSox, I have three small (twig size) Crimson Queens I have not planted in the ground yet. Do they do better in partial shade? They have been on my deck in planters and even tho I've almost loved them to death, they are really burned looking. What do you suggest please? Cynthia
I think you'll find that almost all JMs will do better with at least some shade, especially if you can give them afternoon shade. Many JMs, however, need some sun in order to achieve the color or variegation that each cultivar might possess. My crimson queen, for instance, is protected from the sun by a large shade tree in my front yard and that keeps it from getting sun burnt but it also keeps it from turning red until after the leaves from the overhead tree have fallen in the autumn.
If yours are in planters you might also need to give them more water than you might think as the roots are generally going to be warmer in a pot than they would be in the ground.
Thanks GardenSox for the info. I have a new flower bed going in between two trees that gets morning sun and is pretty shaded in the afternoon. I'll try them there and hopefully they'll do well. I think I'd prefer no sunburn to the bright red if I had a choice! Appreciate the information. Cynthia
confusedlady - not sure exactly what size container that is we have several about the same size - maybe a foot across and a 16-18" deep.
cynthia i have two large crimson queens - one shown here is in full sun the other gets almost full sun - i think the issue is that yours are babies - this is the same CQ that i trimmed heavily last winter and you can not really tell i did anything to it now - maybe when the leaves fall the branch structure will be better
Oh my gosh, Wha, your yard is amazing! I am so jealous - you must have great weather to grow there in Massachusetts. Mine are, seriously, no bigger than twigs ... do you think I should put them in the ground or leave them in their plants on the (raised) deck this winter? Everything else I have (flowers, etc.) are doing well, but these little trees are frustrating me, ahhhhhhhhh!
It appears that it is heavily wooded in the back. Do you ever have the deer come in to dine? I have a heard of 20-25 that dine hear every night. I am thankful that they only take off a few leaves but had to move all my Japanese Emperor Oaks inside. They completely ate off all the buds. Thank goodness that these plants have many hidden eyes beneath the rings otherwise they would have been goners.
hi dave - that is actually the front yard and the white pines are along the road - in back it is heavily wooded with a pond and a farm - we see deer in the field although never in the yard during spring through fall - even have a large veggy garden back there that they have not dined on - yet - in the winter they will come across and pick at some trees and bushes - they seem to like hydrangea the best, so far they have stayed away from the jm's although this year will be the test since i added so many new ones.
hi gsox - i have seven jm's in containers - the geisha only gets watered once a week or so unless i have the sprinkler going there and then it is on its own - others in more sun i will watch closer - this year has been wet until about 6 weeks ago so it has been more an issue of protecting them from too much water
and just to the left of the oridono niskiki is a ukigumo - both of these were a last year purchase and have grown noticeably in that time - and should look good with the bloodgood back drop in the future
we've had that one for close to 10 years - have not trimmed it at all - i still remember the cop directing traffic in front of the nursery thanking me for buying it because he had been looking at it all day and would have caught hell from his wife if he had showed up with it :)
we try and plant impatients in the barrel although i aways forget to water there - just put a magnolia in front of it so probelm solved
thank you for sharing doss - great looking jm's - hoping for the best for your koto-no-ito - i planted one this spring and will post tomorrow - will have to consider a couple like germaine and Tsukushi gata in the future
I'll look forward to seeing your Koto no Ito. It's one of my very favorite trees. I have a seedling with pseudomonas too. This is the first year I've ever had the problem and some of these trees are over 25 years old. (The Koto is only about 8 years in my garden but still...)
mine is no where as nice as yours - got 5 jm's from greers in the spring and two did not far so well on the cross country trip - koto was one of them - do not think they watered them before shipping since the other three were still damp - it did bounce back well though and looking foward to it filling out like yours - and i can understand the issue with pseudomonas - hope the trees get through it
and this is red baron - that i got from davidsans this year - similiar to the bloodgood although supposed to be hardier and it stayed a deeper burgandy this summer than BG - i have it on the slope uphill/behind the koto-no-ito so the green of the koto will stand out more when both trees grow up.
OKAY, now I am really jealous! Bill, your gardens should be on Home Beautiful network! Each photo is amazing. Makes me look at our Missouri gardens and sigh heavily... I don't think I'd ever be inside if my yard looked as gorgeous as yours. But then, you have a Cynthia who gets to enjoy them, don't you? LOL! (And if I was a mole or vole, I'd choose your yard, ha!)
thx cynthia and yes i do have one of my own although she is not a garden enthusiast - fortunately she puts up with my addition :) And since i have so much going on now as long as i can get them in the ground and hide the shipping boxes they go unnoticed :)
here is the last one for today a long shot that could be better - to the left in front of the yellow thread conifer is the beni shichihenge i posted earlier that you can barely make out the top of - in the middle is koto and behind that the RB and to the right the paperbark maple
tomorrow we will go up the slope and see what is going on up there
ROFL, you hide the shipping boxes? That's funny. I do the same thing, though. The plants go out and mine (DH Eric) never notices unless I leave them on the front porch. He's great with letting me do what I want - after all, "happy wife, happy life."
I saved this last photo and put it as my screensaver. I like to look at other people's gardens and dream. Of course, nothing in MO can compare to where you live. We're dead center of the US and have four nice seasons, but we are on pure clay and nothing really does well in clay. Oh well. Our goal is to get back to Minnesota some day!
I'm gonna have to study up on the different varieties of JM - you have so many. I moved mine to a table in the center of our covered deck, so hopefully they'll rebound with just a lil morning sun. Have a great day. Love this thread and photos.
i actually burn the shipping boxes in my fire pit out back when i'm starting a campfire - it is a pain getting out all the stables in those boxes - use the ash in the garden so can't have those in there :)
and the last one i have planted up here is pixie - this area of the yard gets full sun most of the day with some shade in the early morning from the house and a break from the white pines late in the day so not prime real estate for jm's
next we will move to the backyard where there is a lot more going on - stay tuned and do not be afraid to share some of your trees.
here is inaba shirade that is in a bed next too the full moon maple i posted earlier - last year this was a pretty small tree that i posted on another thread where i tried to duct tape a branch broken over the winter and finally lost.
and this is another viridis right next to the inaba shirade that you can see to the right - will need to move the endless summer hydrangea to the left as it has grown very large this year. probably just expand the bed and get rid of more lawn.
Bill, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous! It's Home Beautiful for sure. And to think I showed you photos of my lil burned JM twigs - ROFL - had I seen these photos first, I'd probably have just kept my mouth shut, LOL. Beautiful gardens! Cyn
and to the left of the patio and on the slope that receives morning and afternoon shade is burning embers from davidsans - this is a nice tree and recently found a volunteer rouge cardinal clem growing up into it - will let the continue to grow - this tree is meant to provide shade for the patio when it grows up
and here is the long view the trees where posted starting left to right - when i decided to purchase all these trees last fall and winter it also meant i had to build this patio - fortunately i had brick left over from putting in a front walkway and the blue stone was from a wall i took down and replaced with a real rock wall - so there was a lot of work for me in the spring - and after seeing how big these trees will get i will be expanding that bed fronting the patio i'm sure.
Bill, what is the purple colored one at the right side of the photo? It is fabulous! Your hostas are gorgeous too, and I have two of the heuchera like yours to plant tomorrow. We don't have any all-day shade (except under our deck) so hope they won't get too much sun. Your yard is obviously pretty shaded as all your plants look fantastic, no heat stroke. Massachusetts doesn't get horribly hot in the summer, does it?
BTW, my DH laughed when I told him you burn the tree boxes so your Cynthia might not notice. That's the sign of a true JM-aholic, lol. Cyn
hi cynthia - that would have to be the crimson queen, although i am not sure which photo you are referring too. These photo's were mostly taken in the early summer so the sun really did not get a chance to burn the hosta's. i took down two large sugar maples behind that bed and some of them did not fair as well as others. The heuchera is called Carmel i believe that i got at lowes and split into to three. i did that in several places with that one.
Yes, it's the Crimson Queen - fabulously gorgeous! Did you divide the heuchera's before you planted them (right from the nursery) or did you grow them a couple years before you divided? I have (2) two-gallon containers to plant but if I can divide them now, I'd like to do that.
Didn't see the game tonight ... didn't know baseball was still on, LOL. Did watch the Michigan game Sunday, it was great. And, of course, Iowa beat Iowa State - we went to my DH's childhood farm in IA to watch it. (I dug up hostas & coneflowers to bring home.) LOL. Goodnight all! Cynthia
i bought these in the spring and split them then and kept them watered. not sure the size of the pots, they were pretty full for a box store like lowes. i would think at a minimum you could split them in two now.
I'll do that today when I plant them. Have a garden I'm almost finished with - my first!!! - and will post a photo. I will need a lot of "ohhhh'ssssss!" and "Ahhhhhhhhhh's" - lots of gushing compliments (my sisters-in-law say that) ... since I am a newbie, LOL. Strong hint, haaa. I tell my husband to come see what I've done outside and to really gush over it - if he doesn't really lay it on, I tell him to keep it up and I'll let him know when it's enough. Hee hee. He's a good DH. My garden is nothing like yours, but it has all my favorite flowers in it. No JM tho. :^(
PS #5 mole bit the dust yesterday. The thrill of the hunt ... trapping them is another new hobby, LOL. The Missouri Mole Murderer. Don't call Peta.
Beakerlj needs to be my friend now, too, LOL. I like that last photo - how many do you have and how large is your lot, holy cow! Gorgeous photos! Love the rock borders - we don't have any natural rocks here (just clay, boooo) so we have to buy rock - very pricey so I stick with pavers. Not my fav but at 1.39 each, can afford them.
Rub it in, have you ever been to Missouri? Now Minnesota...that's the Home Planet. We head to the North Shore in two weeks for our bi-annual trip home. Counting the days! We almost moved to Groton, CT, a few years ago. It was lovely - so many trees. Thank goodness we didn't as Pfizer then moved their headquarters.
here is a picture of a jm harriot waldman purchased locally. it is planted here in it container for now although this space is reserved for a dogwood tree so it will have to move. it is next to the elmwoody.
and this is another corallinium from beakerlj that i also might try to bonsai - although not pictured i also have a 5' chishio improved planted in a pot back here and a aka shigitatsu sawa the same size that will moved out into the yard next spring.
Beautiful trees and beautiful gardens Wha. I'd love to "will" my JM's to your yard if that is ok. I always worry about who will love my trees and plants as much as I do when I am gone. lol. Guess it really won't matter because I will never know. I'd love to post some of min on your thread if that is ok.
No it's not showy in the fall at all. It just sort of fades away. But I love my koto no ito and was excited about being able to keep this fairy hair in a pot. I'm all out of room for trees in the garden.
Hmmmm, have to think about a koto no ito when I come across one then. I've been ordering a bunch of 1 yr old grafts off ebay lately. Hope I can keep them alive until they are worth putting in the ground.
You'll love your Koto no Ito. HEre's a photo of the fall colors. Subtle but beautiful. This photo was taken in 2007. I realize I didn't take any photos of my trees this year. I guess I'll have to do it this fall.
N2birds, the koto no ito was about 4 feet tall when I put it in and that photo was taken about 5 years later. It's now over 9 feet tall 7 years later. Not a slow grower at all I don't think. I'm afraid that it's going to get well over the 8-9 feet that is most often quoted for it. I once saw a photo of a mature one and it was as wide as it was tall. I had to move it to a place where it gets sun most of the day and it seems happy there.
and this is the last post of my jm collection - a long view that includes autumn moon, p&c, asahi zuru, abigail rose. you can tell how small the fireglow is as it is almost invisible up by the white picket fence.
i would be very interested in seeing others pictures of their trees!
Thanks for posting all those pictures, wha. You have an impressive collection. I would love to keep adding to my small collection, but I'm really out of good places to plant any more JMs so it's all potted JMs for me for now. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop buying though. In fact, I just purchased two Glowing Embers after thinking about it all summer. I'll post pictures when they arrive and get potted up.
It has really gotten to the point for me where I've been considering tearing out some plants and shrubs to make room for a few JMs.
pretty typical i think - liked the crimson queens and bloodgoods at first. then learned about other varieties like viridis - then to the moon - he Internet made it real easy to learn what is available. local nurseries only had the standards - now they seem to be adding more varieties.
yes it should be interesting in a few years, probably will need to have some mass transplanting or constant trimming. main reason why in the last two years i purchased to many was i wanted to make sure i was around to enjoy them for a while.
Well you have a beautiful garden now and will really enjoy them when they become mature. I know when I plant a new tree I think how old I'm going to be when they become mature and hope that I'm around to see the results! Smart to do it as early as possible.
776 views of this thread, Bill, that's really something. When you decide to thin out your trees, I'll be sure and send you our address, LOL. I think I'll be over 100 when my spindley lil guys grow up. Cynthia
Yes, Red Dragon is that colour all summer. The Ukigumo is in a pot on the east side of my house...I used to have it on the west but the colour was always a bit bleached. The east side has resulted in the best pink color.
I have other JM but only pictures from the summer. If the sun ever comes out, I'll take some recent pics.
I was at a nursery this past weekend and the guy that worked there was raving about his Red Dragon. He says that it's really held up well even in our heat and his filtered sun location for the tree and he loves the color too. I think I have just added one more cultivar to the ever-growing wish list.
This Japanese Maple was about 6' tall when we bought this house 10 years ago. It has grown dramatically in the last few years - I guess it likes the proximity of my compost pile (behind the arbor vitae hedge) - LOL. I don't know the variety - anyone have an idea?
Thanks! It's certainly pretty - three years ago the city/county started a project to widen the creek behind my house. The original plan included taking out my maple. I 'negotiated' with the City and managed to get them to spare it. While they would replace the tree, the puny replacement would take YEARS to be this size - I'm too old to plant small trees - LOL.
This one I just bought a lace leaf from Home Depot, $50 for this size is a pretty good deal, but it didn't have a cultivator name on it, but they rarely do. It is sitting on a new bed we just had the cement ripped up, the park paid for it, and they bought mostt of the things in there, a few things I don't like, but I will slowly take them out replacing them with peonies (3 I just planted) and the maple; which I am going to put in a cedar planted box. I didn't mind the tall column maple ( I think that is what they called it).
Yes I do, it was moved 2 springs ago so I trimmed it back, I've been slowly trying to reveal more of the branches, the woman that lived there before me left it alone and it was so full you couldn't see the beautiful branching that I love about these tree's. I kept it from getting to wide because I once considered turning it into a bonsai, but it's too heavy for just me.
Hey Wha how do you over winter some of these? I keep losing Jap. Maples. i have only about 10 but i lose 2 or more every year. What do you do to over winter them and do you site them to keep them at a warmer exposure in Mass.? You are probably very similar to my winters here in Mich.
What can you tell me.??
hi jazzy julie - i have not lost one yet - even the coral bark's that have been predicted to die by several here - although this year will be the test as i have added about 35 to my collection - the ones in containers i will bring in and store in my garage for the winter the others are on their own - some of them i have staked or added support to protect from snow and ice storms - the cb i posted from my back yard lost one of it's main sections from the major ice storm we had last winter here
not sure which type of trees you have lost - make sure they are for your zone - btw davidsansmaples specializes in trees for our climates
Ok. I do buy for my zone but i think i have a 1/2 zone micro climate going on here as i have lost 4
dog wood trees and other frost sensitive landscape material.
Ok in the garage do they have regular day/night conditions, artificial light? water?
How and what do you do to the garage kept trees? Any special soil or soiless mix?
i just stick them in the back of the garage - any light they get is from the windows - for water i either drop some snow on them or occasionally water them - no set schedule at all - they are dormant.
For soil used in my containers i do nothing special - i use a premixed soil from coast of maine the cobscock blend - this does have some water retaining attributes which goes against what most suggest for jm's - i have an initial layer of sand in the bottom of the containers to offset this somewhat - did not have a problem this year even with the unusual wet weather we had - one tree did suffer some but that was the result of too small of a drainage hole - hard to drill through a glazed container, still need to fix that one.
i may change if i could ever find a source for the ingredients many use
Beautiful Wha, lucky you for already getting snow!! Send some our way please? I loved it last December when we had 2 weeks of snow. Normally it'll snow, melt, then snow, but this time it snowed on top of snow; I was in Solstice heaven *G*
Meanwhile here is one of my maples that is a Shohin Bonsai, it's ready for a Bonsai pot!
Hello JM experts! I am new to these beautiful trees and am wondering if there's an expert in the house to help identify 2 little guys I dug up on a friends farm and 1 mature tree that I bought from a wholesaler with no tag. This picture is of the mature tree. Thanx for any help!
first could be a crimson queen or another "red" dissectum
second is a larger tree
and the third could be a dwarf based only on the leaf size - although i could easily be wrong - may have to wait until they are larger