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Duranta - where are the seeds?

Phoenix, AZ(Zone 9a)

Hi! I have a Duranta (Sapphire Showers) I would like to save seeds from but need some help. I assume the seeds are in the little yellow berries? Plant Files says to wait until over ripe and sow quickly as they don't store well.

How do I know when the berries are over ripe and do you just sow, berry and all?

Thanks in advance for any help you all can provide!!


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