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jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 20, 2009
4:44 PM

Post #7084292

I have a very small pond made from a Rubbermaid cattle trough that is coming along quite nicely. This summer, all the plants became really overgrown, especially the elephant ears in the rear center. This morning, I noticed a long, skinny white thing in the water, and realized that the EE has sent a root down between the lining rocks into the water.

While I doubt that this will hurt the tub, I wonder if the fish nibbling on it could be harmed? Most EE are poisonous.
Jo-Ann

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jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 20, 2009
4:45 PM

Post #7084296

Here’s the root in the water.
Jo-Ann

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FrillyLily
springfield area, MO
(Zone 5b)

September 20, 2009
9:45 PM

Post #7085187

well.
Simply whack it off!

?
chinabitbit
Fridley, MN
(Zone 4b)

September 21, 2009
3:58 AM

Post #7086373

I agree, just cut the root off.
Beautiful Elephant ear, what kind is it and do you have any to trade ?
chinabitbit
Fridley, MN
(Zone 4b)

September 21, 2009
4:01 AM

Post #7086379

And your fishes will be fine, I know a few people who have their elephant ears in pots in their ponds.
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 21, 2009
4:57 AM

Post #7086459

chinabitbit, I have no idea what kind of EE these are. They are about 9' tall. I saw them growing in a yard in my neighborhood, and knowing how quickly they grow & spread, I waited until they were nice & thick & politely asked if I could dig a few up. The homeowner was glad to get them thinned out & I made a new gardening friend. That was 2 years ago. I also have them behind our homemade fountain.The ones by the pond are growing in shade with no direct sunlight. They held up nicely over the past winter, even though we had a few days & nights into the low 20's. They got kind of raggedy, but came right back. In Minneapolis, you'd definitely have to grow them in pots.

Probably later this year or early next spring, I'll be digging some up just to thin them out. The roots/tubers are huge - about football size. (I'm thinking football today since the Saints really beat the Eagle today!!)

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jlj072174
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 8a)

September 22, 2009
10:25 AM

Post #7090967

Jomoncon -- what variety of banana is that to the left of your EE and water feature, just behind the canna?
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 22, 2009
2:52 PM

Post #7091617

jlj072174, It's some sort of ensete, http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/76517/. The above picture as taken was take in 06/08. This is what it looks like now.

I really like these as opposed to the regular banana plants, primarily because they don't send out pups. I have a small garden & can't have things spreading too much. They have a beautiful reddish color & really lend a tropical feel. On the downside, they don't make bananas!

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jlj072174
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 8a)

September 22, 2009
3:28 PM

Post #7091770

Beautiful! I wonder if I could get it to overwinter in the ground here with a lot of protection/mulch, etc. I love the purple coloring.
jomoncon
New Orleans, LA
(Zone 9a)

September 22, 2009
4:30 PM

Post #7092008

Since I don't have that problem, I really don't know. You'd have to ask in the Tropicals forum.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 7, 2009
1:15 AM

Post #7142910

Jo-Ann...I have elephant ears all over the inside of my pond. The fish nibble all the roots away daily...no harm at all! I plant them in cement half blocks as under water vases, filled with river rocks (no soil) All roots and runners that shoot out are nibbled away... I've had them there for 5 years with NO problems.
jlj072174
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 8a)

October 9, 2009
6:16 PM

Post #7151941

MerryMary -- any problems with the concrete harming the fish?
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
2:07 PM

Post #7154403

Anytime I use cinder blocks for anything, I put them in a rubbermaid tubby, fill it up with water, and let them soak for a month or so. Periodically, I change the water. They grow a little layer of algae, and then I use them. So far, no problems at all. They are heavier than normal plastic underwater planters, so the plants don't tip as easily.
jlj072174
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 8a)

October 10, 2009
2:52 PM

Post #7154521

Great idea! Thanks for sharing. I'll keep this in mind for next year's ponding.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
4:24 PM

Post #7154797

Here's a half block on my underwater plant shelf.

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MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
4:25 PM

Post #7154800

And another...

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MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
4:28 PM

Post #7154802

Plant baskets (12") I put these on top of uprighted cement blocks in my pond. The cement blocks give a flat bottomed surface so the plants don't tip (hurricane season and summer storm season can produce some short lived driving winds) They also give underwater pass-throughs for fish to hide from sun and predators.

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MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
4:30 PM

Post #7154814

I don't know if you can see through the water here (there was a lot of reflection, so hard to get a clear pic) and see the blocks at the bottom, with the basket on top.

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bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

October 10, 2009
5:22 PM

Post #7154966

Those purple plants are they elephant ears? Belle
jlj072174
Raleigh, NC
(Zone 8a)

October 10, 2009
5:24 PM

Post #7154987

Brilliance, Merry! Thanks for sharing! I might have to try that next spring.

Bellieg -- they do look like elephant ears. I have some in my pond as well. If your in need, let me know. I could send you some babies, as I have P-L-E-N-T-Y! I believe mine is a black runner, though it was labeled black magic.
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
5:31 PM

Post #7155004

Yes, they are the purple stemmed (but green leaved) elephant ears...I also have purple stemmed/puple leaved in my pond as well. I don't use soil or clay, just the half blocks, put the plant in in, and fill it with river rock. The roots get their nutrients from the water, which also steals it from potential algae.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

October 10, 2009
5:32 PM

Post #7155013

I have plenty also but thank you for the offer, they multiply like there is no tomorrow. You what i had plated also this this are the green taros the edible ones you buy at the oriental grocery store. They grew so tall and healthy!! the leaves are edible as well as the items. They all sell them at the oriental grocery stores. I had not tried them yet but I had eaten the roots. It tastes like potato LOL!!! belle
MerryMary
Ocoee (W. Orlando), FL
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
5:39 PM

Post #7155030

I was on a kick for a while to order every different colocasia and alocasia I could find. The pink stemmed ones are very pretty (china something I think is the name of it) but they are very tender, not at all like the others that multilply so quickly that I constantly give them away.
bellieg
Virginia Beach, VA

October 10, 2009
6:11 PM

Post #7155145

I collect different cultivars of a lot of plants ie-- 500+ hosta, 40 plumerias, 15 + bananas and maybe 15+ alocasias and colocasia. Some of the colocasia were coops but I had lost tags and sometimes it bothers me as well as my hostas and bananas. Sometimes it is the obsession and compulsion but it is better that going shopping at the mall. Have to satisfy the urge!! LOL!!! Belle
_CODY_
Morgan Hill, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 10, 2009
12:13 AM

Post #7257702

i love elephant ears! it looks like an Alocasia ‘Calidora’

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