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If you had your garden to do over again...

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

what would you do differently?

Would you have planted more trees for more shade or relocated some to get more sun?

Planted less of one thing and more of another?

Installed more trellises/arbors for climbing plants?

Planted more deer/gopher/mole resistant plants?

Added a water feature?

Planted more "living fences" to block out views of neighboring properties?

Increased or decreased the size of your deck, courtyard or terrace?

Added an outdoor fireplace or fire pit?

Installed awnings?

I'd have made beds deeper but no more than 8' deep. I'd have made wider paths so two people could walk side by side to view the gardens. I'd have hidden all hose outlets.

While I love how the terrace came out I would have liked it about 2' wider at the end with the table.

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No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Almost all of the above, Pirl! We were in a hurry to get rid of the mud and dust on our bare lot, and had very little money. If I knew then what I know now...oh, the changes I would make. Given all that, we've done OK and now we'll start making some changes as we can. First off, replacing some of the gravel with concrete flagstones DH is making one by one, in place. We figure it will take about three years to do the terrace. LOL

Plant-wise, we've learned places where some things just will not grow and other plants that grow like crazy for us no matter where we put them.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I cant imagine anyone who doesnt want changes.
#1 I would have waited a year to plant the Lazagna garden started this spring.
I would have planted the Lemon Wave Hyd. further to the left,now I have to move it.
I would not have put more than 1 Agastache Blue Fortines in one area now I'm hoping for crop failure.
The list goes on

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

You reminded me that my three hydrangeas, which have grown to 6' tall, should never have been planted where they are.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

If I had met you the first year I joined and realized how important a "plan" is I wouldnt be in this mess.
I guess thats what gardening is.
I recall someones on-line name was"Plantmover" teehee

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

This is the lazagna garden 6 months later
Its overcast here sorry about the dull pic

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I really can't think of a mistake I haven't made.

You really think I started with a plan?! Tee hee.

Dahlias are where the onions once were.

More dahlias and lilies are where the baby daylilies once occupied all the space.

The garden viewable from the Master Bedroom and kitchen seating area has been done over at least five times. Only now that it has my Japanese irises am I happy with it but there's always room for improvement.

Richmond, TX(Zone 9a)

I did not want to have rocks or metal bordering my beds so I planted ophiopogon aka monkey grass as a "natural" border. Very pretty but if an area is too moist the MG is growing into the bed as a ground cover. Nothing too terribly wrong with that, except that MG is just tall enough (6") to serve as hiding for snakes. If I were to do it again, I would leave the beds sans borders and just fight the creeping grass w/weedeater or roundup.

Mind you, I have not seen a single snake slithering in/out of monkey grass, but I'm paranoid that way, lol. That's it. No other regrets; in fact, the rewards completely overshadow my monkey grass faux pas.

Last night as we returned from running an errand, the exhuberant aroma of night blooming jasmine, and brugs and sweet almond verbena and jasmine totally engulfed me. It felt like paradise, even in the dark. Words can't explain how rewarding that feeling was.

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Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

My worst thing lately has been making beds too big and so crowded I can't get in there to work. Ah, the plight of the plant pig, LOL. If I could start over, I would have installed step stones from the beginning- it has to be something solid like that or I WILL plant something there. I know this, there's no fighting it.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Vossner - I know that feeling from the lily garden in early July. Wish I could put the computer outside to just breathe in the air all morning long. Same with the rose garden in June. Would be nice if we could bottle it.

GS - That's a mistake I didn't make. I've add pieces of slate for mini paths though some paths are the typical sized slate pieces. I even plant some muscari in with daffodils to remind me it's not a vacancy yearning to be filled.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

Oh yes, I'm bad for that too- not marking the location of daffs and other bulbs, LOL.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

narrow pathways is my mistake too.
i cant get in there with a cart

Flora, IN(Zone 5a)

I think I would place plants more carefully for good combination.
What I do is just find any empty space and get it in the ground , I guess that is lack of a plan.
The idea of stepping stones for access is a good idea. When weeding it looks like I am playing that old game Twister.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Yes, paths - we planned the big ones, but not smaller ones. However, since we're on a slope, we've found that it's easier to go one way rather than another, so now at least we know where we want some of them! Planning is good, but sometimes we have to live with our gardens a while to figure out the best way to do things. We live in a fire danger area and are encouraged to have pathways or hard-scape to break up plantings.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Hooray I guess no one is imune from wanting to see the visuals before making ajustments.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I agree with Kathleen in that living with the garden for a time gives us a better idea where pathways would be useful, even if it's just a few pieces of broken slate to allow us entry to weed and not have to play Twister.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Anything to avoid Twister!!

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

No twister for me either.

south central, WI(Zone 5a)

A Plan, my shovel, trowel and bad back for a plan!!!
Twister...argh!!
Not crowding plants..makes bending over a death sentence to the asiatic lily etc. right behind my behind.
Not being more assertive about "iffy" plants and remember what the instructor said
" A weed is a plant out of place"...I have some very pretty and spreading weeds!

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Marcia I have the same problem, twister around asiatics that are past bloom and stalks as big as stakes.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Still chuckling over bending over and getting surprised when we least expect it with those Asiatic lily stalks. How true!

So many of us have the "this one can fit" mentality (myself included, of course) and that leads to crowding and that proceeds to "Twister".

Leaving plants because "that's where the birds planted them" is another disaster. They did leave me this beautiful thriving white bleeding heart (and in the perfect spot) but they just aren't gardeners though I do love them, but not the crows.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

NOT like CROWS?
Whaaaa.
I love to watch them in our neighborhood.

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

When they raid the nests of other birds and fly off with tiny young birds in their mouth as the mother birds cry for their missing young ones I'd like to shoot the crows.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

You sure know how to hurt a mother Pirl.
Thats just awful.Wrens also kill young chickadees.

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Sorry! Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Love your work but still hate the crows.

They attacked our tomatoes so often we had to go to the time, work and expense, to totally enclose the tomato section of our vegetable garden. They rank up close to the deer in this area.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I know they are a nuiscence, poop all over cars in the city.
There is a plan to thin them out of urban areas.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Good!

The sea gulls do more in the messing of cars department but they do amuse me with their antics.

Trenton, MI(Zone 5b)

Ahhh, thanks pirl, now I know what was putting holes in my tomatos. I was blaming it on the robins.

Do overs .... yep, wider paths, less variety, repeat a few patterns. I love the cottage garden style, but found that some plants I love don't do well with the competition.
I wish I could find a good place to put my Lilac so that it would bloom ... i'm lucky to get it to bloom once in 5 years. It is in too much shade. I just don't have a good place to put it.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

No sun? They love sunshine here.

Trenton, MI(Zone 5b)

Yes, they do love the sun ... I planted my lilac in a part-shade area hoping it would be 'ok' ... it grows lovely leaves, but needs the sun for those beautiful blossoms. I don't have a sunny area that it can really fit into.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I wouldnt have planted my LemonWave Hydrangea so close to the Agastache.Anyone know when I can move it?
NOW"
Spring?

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

Jo Ann, I just moved a hydrangea last week and it's doing very well. If you're talking about the agastache, I've always read to move in spring. I have some agastache I want to move, but the plethora of bees keeps them right where they are!

My biggest gardening mistake is one I make over and over. Too many different kinds of plants in any given area. I'm finally learning to stop practicing the "shove it in" gardening style......with some help from a dear gardening friend!

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Thanks Venu
I cant move the agastache for the same reason.
I'll move the Hyd.Its still small and only needs to be moved a bit to the left of where it is now to allow the Agastache to lean forward as far as it wants.

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

I think you'll be fine moving the hydrangea. Mine was a monster, so I did make sure it got plenty of water everyday for a week after the big move. Mom Nature has now taken over the watering chores.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Yeahhh we have had over an inch of rain.in 2 days thats more than we had all last month

Hannibal, NY(Zone 6a)

I would start over planting more trees and shrubs right at the first. The areas where I did are now the nicest in the garden.

And I would plant further apart. My perennials are all way too close together.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I'll be moving the Lemon Wave Hydrangea Its too close to the Agastachewhich just migrates forward from June to October.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Planting further apart is a great idea, Polly, and yet when gardens are new I think we all have the tendency to crowd and not allow for expansion.

"They" say in books to plant further apart and use annuals to fill in while the perennials grow to full size and yet for many of us the thought of planting a thousand annuals a year just waiting for that to happen is daunting, at best.

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Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

not to mention the cost

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

That's what I did with a new small shade garden this spring and it worked perfectly. I can tell now that there will be no room for the annuals next year as the perennials have filled out so much. This was also an area that was preplanned using graph paper, the outcome much nicer than my usual haphazzard ,shove it in gardening style.

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