Photo by Melody
It's time now to VOTE in our 14th annual photo contest! Voting ends November 7, so be sure to cast your votes for your favorites in each category here. Good luck to all contestants!

Shady Gardens: Needing plant suggestions; area receives 4 hours sun

Communities > Forums > Shady Gardens
bookmark
Forum: Shady GardensReplies: 14, Views: 278
Add to Bookmarks
-
AuthorContent
freedomfarmsva
Chesterfield, VA

September 29, 2009
10:25 PM

Post #7117612

I am planning to revamp a med-large (150 sq. foot) bed that currently is mostly filled with native orange daylilies. It is basically a three-cornered bed, and currently a mature small dogwood (15 ft tall) and a 7 ft. tall Redbud anchor two of the corners. I am planning to purchase a small-med. Witch Hazel to anchor the remaining corner. Right now the bed gets about 4 hours of direct sun--but what is making it hard for me to know what to plant is that it gets AFTERNOON sun--like from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. right now. I know as the Redbud tree grows (NW corner) it will provide a bit more shade, and the Witch Hazel eventually (SW corner).

The soil is a good mix of sandy/humusy with leaf mold but I know there is clay somewhere underneath (I live in VA, in zone 7b I believe). The site has good drainage & average moisture (and is near a watering hose, for times of stress).

So--basically I have 2 questions:

1.) Am I right in thinking that I need to be looking for shady plants, or does the fact that the bed receives the hotter afternoon sun change this?


2.) Any specific plant suggestions? I am mostly looking for perennials right now, but annual suggestions would be welcomed also as I plan to leave places to stick some in each year. :-)
I would love to have taller plants in the middle of the bed and smaller ones on the sides, and am trying to compose a bed that has something of interest/beauty most of the year. (Isn't that the challenge we all face?!) :-)

I would be really grateful for any help. I've been doing lots of searching in catalogs and on the internet, but I keep getting confused by differing plant descriptions. I need real experience-tested help! :-)

Blessings,
JoAnna

This message was edited Sep 29, 2009 6:35 PM
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

September 29, 2009
10:48 PM

Post #7117667

I do have shade in the afternoon and that is better, afternoon sun is much hotter so that would complicate your selection, but I feel these wouldn't go too bad in your location.
I have a C. sasanqua that is growing in full shade

Azalea
Rhododendron
Hydrangea
Hostas
Lamium / White Nancy (Laminium maculatum)
Forget-me-nots (Myositis sylvestris)
Ferns
WaterCan2
Eastern Long Island, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 3, 2009
2:36 PM

Post #7130294

Wood Aster
Strawberry Bush http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/2634/
Forsythia
Solomon's Seal
Several varieties of shade clematis http://www.donahuesclematis.com/shade.html

Edit: Just checked out my shade garden, add to the list above:

Tiarella 'candy striper' http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/126601/
Nandina domestica, (many partial shade varieties)
Hakonechloa macra 'Beni-kaze' http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/164367/

This message was edited Oct 3, 2009 12:30 PM
doss
Stanford, CA
(Zone 9b)

October 3, 2009
9:55 PM

Post #7131333

I have some sasanqua camellias growing in a situation identical to the one you are talking about and they do very well. Buy a shorter variety but know that they can be easily kept pruned to a shorter height without looking like they've been given a buzz. I agree with the hakonechloa. The variegated variety can grow in the dark here and in full sun. Mondo grass is a good plant in the foreground as a ground cover although ajuga would grow there happily also. I have a lady fern which gets afternoon sun and seems to be fine. Also helleborus.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 4, 2009
9:37 AM

Post #7132851

Many lilies will bloom in part sun
sempervirens
Northern, NJ
(Zone 6b)

October 4, 2009
10:38 AM

Post #7132890

freedomfarmsva,
It sounds like you have the start of a wonderful native plant bed with the 3 native understory trees you have as anchors. There are so many native plant choices for the southeast it's hard to know where to begin. I'm in the northeast but I borrow liberally from the plants native to your area.

Starting with a fall bloomer-One of my all time favorites is Heuchera villosa-
I have the cultivar Autumn Bride, the only one that really provides lovely white fall bottle brush blooms for me.
This is truly a 4 season plant, the large yellow green maple like leaves persist into the winter about 18" tall and the leaves form mounds up to 2' across. It is the 2 1/2' bottle brush white flower plumes that last for weeks in the fall that I look forward to most.

It looks pretty backed by the non native variegated solomon seal since the white on the variegation on the 2 1/2' leaves tall offers a good 3 season backdrop and plays up the white flowers of the heuchera.
Add a native false solomon seal, smilacina racemosa, in front of the heuchera and get an arching leaved plant bending low with bright red clusters of berries at this time of year.

Lady ferns (there is a cultivar called "Lady in Red" that has red stems that would look smashing with the red berries of the false solomn sea) mentioned in a previous post will offer a lacy soft contrast and christmas fern a deeper green contrast that is evergreen.

Nestle native evergreen gingers at the feet of the ferns and sprinkle liberally with spring ephemerals like hepaticas, trilliums,spring beauty,rue anemone(my favorite),bloodroot, twinleaf, wood phlox, etc.

Add a few fragrant native shrubs like fothergilla and clethera and maybe an azalea
(there is a native hybrid azalea called 'Mary Del' that smells wonderful).

You'll also need some moderate size evergreen shrubs, maybe ilex glabra, inkberry, for winter presence.
Oops I think I overfilled your space. Well at least you'll have lots to choose from.
Frank65
Hallowell, ME

February 2, 2010
8:14 PM

Post #7523107

Why has no one mentioned columbines and foxglove?!?!?!?!
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

February 3, 2010
12:33 AM

Post #7523840

Because I do not have it in my shady area, but you are quite right, they will do!
dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:28 PM

Post #7525540

Hi freedomfarmsva - I have two areas that are similar to your description -- I am in 5a, so it's warmer in your area, but I've found these plants to be good performers as long as you watch the moisture level -- particularly the first year. Hope these combinations give you some ideas --

First - this area has high shade until about 1 p.m. - I've combined Snow in Summer (spring bloom) medium sized Iris (early spring bloom) Astilbe (early summer) Hosta (different times) Columbine (late spring) Coreopsis (ongoing) Daylilies (summer) and Liatris (mid to late summer). The bed looks great until late August - I've included pics from early spring and mid-summer -- that is truly the same bed -- it certainly fills out, doesn't it --

This message was edited Feb 3, 2010 9:50 AM

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:33 PM

Post #7525552

Same bed, looking from opposite direction, in mid-summer

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:34 PM

Post #7525556

And the bed that is just across the path -

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:46 PM

Post #7525592

This bed gets full sun from about 1 on, but has trees in front that are large enough to shade it in the morning -- because the sun is more direct in the afternoon on this bed, I've put in more sun varieties -- These are sun varieties, but they do very well with that late afternoon hot sun and shade morning -

This bed has - iris (spring), shasta daisies (spring), Lamb's Ear (on-going), Yarrow (mid-summer), Asiatic and Oriental lilies (mid-summer to late summer), Joe Pye Weed (late summer), Clematis (late summer), Goldenrod (late summer), and Mums (Fall) -

The first pic is mid-summer -

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:47 PM

Post #7525597

Late summer -

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

dax080
Cedar Rapids, IA
(Zone 5a)

February 3, 2010
3:49 PM

Post #7525601

And mid/late Fall -

Dax

Thumbnail by dax080
Click the image for an enlarged view.

greenthumb99

greenthumb99
Lucketts, VA
(Zone 7a)

February 6, 2010
6:26 PM

Post #7535657

Hello freedomfarmsva,
Just a quick mention: the orange daylilies are not native - they just seem so because they are so prevalent. You will have an elongated effort to remove them from the bed. Any little tuber will result in a plant sprouting up and you will probably be digging them for a couple of years. If you dont get them all your bed will again be as you currently describe it: "mostly filled with ...orange daylilies".
greenthumb99

You cannot post until you register, login and subscribe.


Other Shady Gardens Threads you might be interested in:

SubjectThread StarterRepliesLast Post
Dogwood Shrubs (flowering) Goldengirl 18 May 19, 2008 11:50 PM
info on shade-loving vine? Horseshoe 29 Oct 2, 2007 6:30 AM
Just a little shady corner. CountryGardens 7 Jul 22, 2009 8:17 PM
share your shade garden pics IowaAnn 198 Sep 15, 2008 4:42 PM
Problem area-wet shade, Please help Shadyfolks 52 Sep 13, 2008 3:04 PM


We recommend Firefox
Overwhelmed? There's a lot to see here. Try starting at our homepage.

[ Home | About | Advertise | Media Kit | Mission | Featured Companies | Submit an Article | Terms of Use | Tour | Rules | Privacy Policy | Contact Us ]

Back to the top

Copyright © 2000-2014 Dave's Garden, an Internet Brands company. All Rights Reserved.
 

Hope for America