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We were all newbies at one time and now that we've been at DG a while maybe we can share some good hints for making gardening easier, thoughts about what went right or wrong in 2009 and our plans for 2010.
My memory sometimes fails me but I always know which is the bad leg on Petals because I have a band-aid on the front side of her leg.
Now I use the Notebook feature on this computer so much more than ever before. When I get a brilliant thought I have to come in here and jot it down before I forget it. I have separate pages for inside and outside jobs, reminders for rainy day things I really want to do, lists for vacation reminders, etc. It does help.
I'm a real oldy in DG's and I'll hear all that you have to say,now your season end but mine is just starting! and I can benefit from your experience.
Our spring is slowly warming up but a couple of days ago we have a GOOD frost, thank heavens I put some protection in some little tomatoes and lettuce, all well... ah!
I'm starting my vegie garden in the backyard and what I call my everything garden (front garden), I do not have lots of space so I do containers, vetables among the flowers and to complicate thing more, try to do some companion and some kind of rotation, Its fun and I'll see how I'll go this year.
there is a forum "Back Porch" that was started for the folks that had been around for awhile. Attendance tapered off and currently the active folks on the forum have poetry focused post,,but if you all want to come over, I would love to see you there or here.
I have lost touch with so many since I joined in 2001, after lurking for a wee bit.
We have frost/freeze warnings, hope to get to Farmers Market for tomatos and pepper.
Jo Ann, I figured we could count on you. How are the coleus cuttings? I received three more varieties, about four or five of each, yesterday and they were the quickest to perk up that I've ever been sent. The person also sent two nice clumps of Gaillardias that I'll be planting soon.
Another DG person sent a big box of dahlias so I'm looking forward to next year, as always.
I think I've over done the cuttings.
I cant imagine what this place will look like in 9 months.Many just arent taking to being cuttings.Goldfinch is a looser as is Oxblood and even Watermelon is on the questionable list.
I have to keep reminding myself that I am not a patient person and easily bored so I just have to sit on my scissors and wait for parent plants to get going.
Old/dead coleus leaves are giving me grief for keeping things nice and neat in all the windows where I have coleus growing. Aside from hand picking of every dropped leaf does anyone have a better idea that doesn't require dragging out a vacuum? The leaves are so crispy that they clog up my Dust Buster. I'm going back to a whisk broom and dustpan.
I haven't done any cuttings this season (other than rescuing the early cuttings from Christmas cactus that I had made and forgotten.) I have a Much smaller plant this year as I forgot the cuttings for a long time.
Froze last night and is down in the 20s' tonight. Growning season pretty much done here.
Now to dig and store the dahlias and do garden clean-up of all stuff that is left. It is suppose to warm up to the low 50s' next week, so will wait. We are almost 20 degrees cooler than usual. :(
pirl, thanks for the link to dahlias..now I don't have to ask my vet!!!! She has championship dahlias:)
Now how about caladiums..this is first season as I potted the ones up from UMRU and would love to keep them,
Got to cut the callas back, I had them inside, but they need to get stored..
By the way..did I mention that I am behind.???? :0
MariciaGeiger, aren't we all behind this time of year sometimes I wonder if I work harder in the fall than the spring is that possible lol
Iím not a dahlia person well as much as Pirl but the digging up and storing keeps me from having so many but Iím curious as to how many dahlias everyone has to dig up and if itís more than what Pirl has to dig up lol Iíll let her tell you how many she has if she wants to :)
I have a whole five of them but had about nine last year thinking I would never get them done before freezing weather would come in, the bulbs multiplied so much I just couldnít believe it! I lost a few trying to over winter them last year but it was my first year for trying them I hope I have better luck with them this year but have Pirlís Ďwords of wisdomí to get me thru them and more prepared for this year than last lol
Marcia - sad to say most people don't bother trying to save caladiums because, aside from Le Bug, most people can't get great success the second year and worse the third year. Look at the cost of 11 bulbs for $7.00 (through Caldiums4Less) as the price you'd pay for annuals. I hope that helps.
People like Poochella and Todgor on dahlias have 200 or more. I have about 33 or 35 and still dread the week long ordeal in November of cutting back/digging/hosing/cutting tubers with eyes and then bleaching/drying/dusting with fungicide/packaging for winter...but they're worth it.
Itís true I did have great success with the caladiums the first year I over wintered them but the second year not so good just a few survived then I just left them in the ground last year. They are such a good price when Caldiums4Less has them itís worth it to use them as annuals not saying I wonít try to save them again though lol
My best gardening hint for the year is to forget about using sprays to deter the wretched deer and just use netting. This has been more effective (even though less attractive) than anything else I've tried. I actually had Montauk Daisies bloom this year. Just need to get out there and protect the shrubs before the snow flies.
Oh no! I am not ready for winter and do not tell me of any coleus sites! Now I have over 350 cultivars and I'm thankful there are only a "few" more to be cut back.
I took cuttings of the Blackheart sweet potato vine a month ago, when it was climbing up the stairs, never expecting them to root so easily! Now it's time to take cuttings of the green one and the variegated one.
Bought 3 of them in 1992. One died a few years later and the other two are still outside growing. I cut them back and bring them inside before a frost. They remain in a sunny window all winter and when spring starts they begin twining up the cords of blinds. Just keep cutting them back. They're best in an eastern exposure or set back a foot or more in a south or west window. No food in winter and not much water.
Third year for my mandevilla, Louise. I put mine in a northern window, and fertilized it and watered it, and it bloomed all winter (sporadically), and has bloomed all summer. Since that is different than how Pirl cares for hers, I suspect they overwinter easily. I had to keep cutting mine back, also.
No frost here yet, Jo Ann. It's coming though. In the next two weeks for sure, from the weather report.
Polly, you keep fertilizing your Mandevilla during winter? We heat with wood and everything dries out a lot, so I do have to water a bit more than is typically recommended for winter. I have tried overwintering them both ways, allowing to go dormant and keeping them growing. I've had better luck keeping them growing.
Seems odd to me that dormant storage doesn't work so well. The tubers look like a Dahlia tuber, like there would be plenty of carb reserves to get them through. I'm going to do my best to keep them alive- the red one I got from the Buried Treasures co op this spring is soooo gorgeous!
Mine's the red one. I just put Miracle Gro whatever it is for houseplants on it once a month. I do have to keep cutting it back, though. It stays above my sink, so it's getting plenty of humidity. It certainly doesn't flower like it does outside, but it flowers pretty well all winter. I also have it pretty pot bound. I read once, they like to be pot bound.
It's so nasty here this morning drisiling rain, windy and 40 degrees guess cleaning seeds are in order for today.
I've always wanted a Mandevilla but never thought I could over winter it sounds like I could try one for next year. I would love to have a red one I bet those are pretty I think the ones I've seen here are a dark pink maybe?
I am going that way today and will look to see the water tower. I know it is there and remember seeing it but don't remember either if you know what I mean. LOL
gemini, it is only about a 15 to 20 min drive from New Albany, if that long.
She got caught by photographers, (for the third time) caught as in photographed, not arrested.They don't arrest you for talking on a cell phone, they fine you. She had not been fined as she wasn't caught by the police.
I used to wait tables and people would keep talking when I would go to the table to take their order I would give them time to say their good byes or tell them to hold on and if they didn't do it I left and took my time getting back to them people are so rude like I had time to stand there while they talked!
Not certain about the plants,but I would haul them in if you haven't had first frost (succulant leaves) and if they haven't been collecting disease/bugs. It certainly is worth a try, might want to keep them in sun and give a bit of food to extend bloom cycle.
I am only bringing in the ones that were on the deck this season. I don't have room to keep any plants that have had to be treated for bugs due to energetic new dog that loves to sample things..my glasses (have 2 new pair since he came home with me, dirty socks, tissue, any food within snatching distance etc..
Pirls compost plants (golden creeping Jenny and the sedum (Is that Purple Emperor?) look better than my garden plants by far...:)
Stormyla...If the plants have any cluster of green leaves at the base, you might have a start for continued bloom..otherwise would go with the "let them seed out" with all the plants and start anew..would do that for at least some anyway as seeds have gotten so much costlier than when I started gardening.
I don't think you can root cuttings from it, (not positive..but pretty certain).
Me, too. I'm always amused by the little things that elate my spirits - like finding two coupons for $25.00 each during the last week for places where I ordered plants. You'd think from my reaction that I won the lottery.
Precisely! I was weak and ordered a yellow peony (I don't even love peonies!) but the coupon more than covered the cost. Guess I ordered at the right time since now they're sold out but I already received my order and have the peony:
I'm a very happy person and find many reasons to laugh at myself daily. The simplest little things can make me smile. Whenever I find myself getting crabby, I look for some children to play with. It's darn near impossible not to be amused and have your spirits lifted just being around little ones. Makes a nice break for their parents too.
I have a Farfugium that's been making me smile all month. It's trying it's darndest to bloom. The bud looks like it's not going to open, but I've been greatly inspired by it's struggle to burst forth!
It's hard to tell here, but can you see that stalk rising out of the one on the left? This photo was taken on 10-17. The petals are now fully visable, but the bud isn't completely open. The valiant effort of this young plant has thrilled me!
If you do find the name, please post it. I'd like to try them. It looks like they have yellow flowers. I planted some mukdenia this spring, and that's looking very nice. Nice fall colors on it. The farfugium might look nice next to it.
I planted mine just this spring Louise. It's in quite a bit of shade, well watered. I did put some composted cow manure in the planting hole, but we're mostly sandy loam. Essentially the way I grow heucheras. It is a slow grower, for sure.
Thanks Mary, I'll get that one then. It's funny, I just made a trade with someone for spring for saxifraga. I don't know if they will do well here or not, but the lady showed a picture on the sedum forum, and I love the flowers.
From pictures the mukdenia has pretty flowers too.
it will be on my list.I'll check at Gro-More this spring.
The woman in charge of perennials is willing to look into special requests so I ordered 2 Astilbe OstrichPlume type peach color (german name,I cant remember)
Maybe she would consider Mukdenias
Gro-More is on East Henrietta Road behind the Dome.
If you come from the xpress way aoff Jefferson Road and head south you must cross over Calkins Road.Gro-More is on the right, You can see the Dome Arena behind it.
Not too far north of the thruway then. That's the way I normally come to get to the Henrietta area. I can't believe I've never been there, then. I'll have to check it out next year. And hopefully we can meet up next year, Jo Ann.
I was really dissapointed we couldnt get together this year.I would love to have you see my gardens and I live about 15 mins from there.
The farthest Thruway exit would bring you very close to Gro-More.
Thanks, Ge. Still trying to bring some color to the back of this very shady bed. So far, after the Aruncus and Trollius are done blooming, it's a mass of green back there. I did move a white Camellia back there this summer, but that one will bloom next month.
flowerfantasy, There are now quite a few cold hardy Camellias. The ones that I've had success with are the Ackerman Hybrids. They are rated to zone 6, but I've seen people post photos of them in Minnesota. I have 6 of them, all thriving and blooming well. The darker the shade, the better. Greer Gardens always has a number of them.
Here's one putting out it's buds for next spring. This photo was taken last week. I love how darkly green they stay all winter. These look better in the winter than the Rhodos and the EV Azaleas. They are also less finicky for me than those two.
I really need to try one of those. How much snow cover do you get, Mary? We supposedly have winter temps to -10, used to be -20, but I haven't seen a below zero here in years. So, I think they would do well.
GE, Yes, I like to do that too. I was just so busy this year that I never even planted my really tall pots. Plus I ran out of Caladiums. That silly daisy/gazing globe gets moved around a lot depending on where the greenest spot is.
The pots only made it as far out of the basement door to the edge of "Tomato Alley"
Polly, Unfortunately, we don't get enough snow cover. Too much maritime influence here. We're 15 miles to the bay and 60 miles to the ocean. We suffer from a lot of ground heave, especially for the Heuchera. Last year we did have one snow cover that lasted almost 3 weeks. But when it thawed, all sorts of plants and shrubs heaved. I lost 2 beloved Daphnes. But most of them came back, even the Skimmia.
flowerfantasy, They are well respected and have been in business for many years. They are a Watchdog Top5 for Rhodo's, Azaleas and Camellias. One of my Camellias failed shortly after planting and they replaced it, no questions asked.
Polly, I don't like pink in the fall garden either. I wish that Begonia Grandis came in something other than Pink or white. Yellow would be nice. I'm not a big fan of pink anytime of the year. The only pinks I have are Begonia Grandis, a few Oriental Lilies and some Echies.
My last garden was all pink, fuschia, purple, blue and white. I just got tired of it after so many years. I wanted bold colors here, not easily accomplished in an area with so much shade.
Amazing how bodies of water can affect snow. We are about one mile from the lake, and Jo Ann can't be far off it, and we both get quite a bit of snow. But if you go 10 miles more south of the lake they get little snow. The thruway seems to be the dividing line in this area where they get a lot of snow or not.
Nice collection of pretty pots!
I'm into blues and purples, but I'm getting so I like the bolder colors more. I've put some reds in with the purples and blues, and if they are the right shade of red, they seem to go nicely. Pastels are out with me, currently.
Oh, definitely lime green. Love lime green. Do you know some of the iris pseudatas have lime green foliage that stays lime green all year? Aichi No Kagayaki comes out chartreuse and turns lime green during the summer.
Yes, Polly. That's the one I wanted from you, but you were sold out.
There are lots of lime green plants. 4 or more varieties of Heuchera. Some arisaema. Many Hydrangea. Spireas. Aquilegias. Tiarellas. Sedums. Geraniums. Corydalis. Dicentra. Euphorbias. Epimediums. Forsythias. Campanula. Primrula. Philadelphus. Salvia. Daphnes. Hypericums. Ferns. Heucherella. I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of the obvious ones.
Hey about snow and the lake.
I am 9 miles or so south of the lake and we gat snow.
I had heard that rt.5&20 was an old Indian train and they had a special relationship with the elements. They seemed to know where it was safe to set up permanent villages. Seldome made mistakes about living in a flood plane etc.
Nothing like native knowlege I say.
I used to cross the route everyday when I drove a doctor from Canandaigua to Rochester. If the weather was horrible in the city all I had to do was get beyond 5&20 and it would change.
Hi Sue, welcome to Daves Garden. I'll let someone else answer you about hyrangeas. The only kind I grow are the paniculatas, and other cold hardy ones, and they wouldn't be the ones you would grow in your area. But someone else will come along. But I wanted to say welcome!
No idea, Jo Ann. But I don't do well with campanulas in general, although we have campanula persicifolia seeding all over the place. And this year for the first time, a friend sent me some c. medium (cups and saucers) that is still blooming for me. But the campanula family is so varied I would love to have more. Our sandy soil just doesn't support some plants.
I had the idea of edging a bed with the Blue Clips. Not one survived.
That's the one that seeds all over here, Mary. I'm sorry, but after having a nursery for so long, I tend to refer to the flowers by their Latin names. I think that's the same one as peach leaf. I'm going to have to try that Dickson's Gold again, though. I love that contrast between the gold leaves, and the blue flowers. Another one I love is glomerata.
Polly your C. Bells are still blooming? Mine quite a long time ago I have purple ones to plant for this year :) I had a gold campanula out in the middle bed for this year planted last year and the weeds took it over I was so looking forward to those!
I have a beautiful blue campanula that I don't know the name to out there that is still blooming, we have had a couple of hard frost too!
I also love the Gold foliage on this Dicentra "Gold Heart". The gals in the MidAtlantic from Maryland south all say their foliage disappears around July. Mine stays all summer. Probably in NY and north it would too.
I think Lime Marmalade is a newer one. Harvest Lemon Chiffon is lovely! I like that filipendula too! I do have Gold Heart, and that does well for me.
Ha, Lea, yes mine is still blooming. That'll teach you to grow something for me!I can't believe it's gone through all these frosts and freezes and is still blooming. I roughed up the soil under it, so hopefully it will seed. It's considered a biennial, right?
Sarasto is pretty Jo Ann. I like those downfacing bells too.
LOL, That was the 1st week of April before anything emerged. They are not very neat now!! My poor Hummingbird bench has been torn apart in sections since August getting the overhaul for rust. DSO doesn't stay with the project and I hope it's back together before spring, because it is my favorite bulb viewing spot.
Oops, sorry, hummingbird. My beds never look that neat.
Here's my garden in late spring, not a cottage type, but way too exuberant. I have a spirea in there that shows up nice, and I think some of the lime green plants would look nice, but I need to make room.
Your landscapes are beautiful. You can see a bunch of love and hard work went into it. I have a lime green no name I purchased a year ago at Loews. I planted one in holding bed that gets partial sun and one in full sun. They both lived through the winter until July heat hit and the one in the sun bit the dust. I bought it just because of the color. I am always looking for unusual colors. I have a lime green Amaryllis but it is weird. I will send a photo of plant tomorrow. It has a very tiny blue flower. I could send you a start. I looked at it today and it appears to have many sections with many roots.
The gold and lime do show up well there. And I just love them with blues.
Thanks Sharon. i would love to see pictures from your garden. One of my good friends lived in Las Vegas, and she had a lot of trouble adapting to the gardening there, although not to the climate. She has since moved back due to personal reasons, but would love to be back in LV.
It is a learning experience to garden in Las Vegas. It took me 10 years but now I am the Queen. Just ask me,. I will tell you. Now we are now rebuilding and getting plants ready for spring. It is not easy but give her my D mail and I will personally hold her hand. I have many plants that can be relocated.,,.
Thank you Polly & Skwinter. Golds and limes are great and I'm always on the lookout for more.
SKwinter, I've been following what you've been writing about your Hydroponics endeavor in the Iris forum. That is just too funny for words. LOL I remember how excited you were when given the first opportunity. I'd love to see a photo of a blue Amaryllis. I had no idea they came in blue.
Polly, Talk about golds and blues, did you see that planting in the photo contest of the blue sib iris and the gold lupine?? Gorgeous. And it is sooooo hard to grow Lupines here, Delphiniums too.
Thank you so much for the offer. She would have loved that. She's moved back here though. Her husband passed away, and she moved back here. Since she has no family in LV and does here, I expect she will stay here. She had only been married a couple of years, and he died unexpectedly. She was in an abusive marriage for around 20 years, left, found a nice man, and then he died. Very sad.
Well, Mary, yes I did. That was one of Boojums photos, and she is the one that mainly did the pictures for my website. her pictures are wonderful. She and Pirl, also a fantastic photographer, were kind enough to give me pictures for the website. How lucky was that?
I love the picture of the lupine and the sibs. Pirl sent me a lupine last year, and it grew and bloomed. My first one that ever survived. Thanks, Pirl!
Polly, that is wonderful!! Your website looks great. Thanks to Pirl and Boojums! That photo of hers took my breath away. So did the one of the lupines growing at the beach. What I loved about Boojum's photo was the powerful statement made by the lone lupine. An artiste at work there!
I'm really surprised to hear that you've had difficulty growing Lupines. Everyone of my friends that lives even an hour west or north thinks I'm crazy not to be able to grow Lupines. Believe me, I try every year. I have a soul survivor and it didn't bloom this year.
I said the Amaryllis was lime green not blue. I thought it would be different and very cool but it is not. When it blooms in the spring I will take photo. From my observation, there is nothing that Pirl is bad at. Just a lovely lady with knowledge and the warm spirit to share.
From my understanding it has to do with the glaciers. We have quite a few drumlins in the area, and I guess those are unique.
Sharon, I'm confused, you said the amaryllis was lime green with a tiny blue flower? Is it a lime green flower? I do have one that has a lime green flower. It should be blooming in the house around Christmas and I will have to remember to take a picture. How many different amaryllis do you have? We can only grow them as houseplants here.
OK, JoAnn, I guess I had better pay attention to what I am typing. The lime green with the little blue flower is a no name plant I got at Loews. The lime green Amaryllis has a lime green flower. They grow outside here and bloom in the spring. I have Pink, Pink & White and then of course Red. I have three vibrant Orange Amaryllis I got as a gift from Jackson & Perkins. This is the second season in the ground and they have not bloomed. But they were beautiful when they bloomed in the house. I will hold my breath for luck in the spring.
Cedarcottage & Ge, Thank you. Cedar, please don't be jealous. That's one of my most difficult areas as it is vole infested. I just realized that they have eaten all of my siberian iris and hardy cyclamen in there. The voles constantly eat the silver ferns that I plant there too.The flat part of the ground there is damp and the small hill is bone dry. Lots of trial and error needed over there.
I try to keep a fair amount of gold, lime, silver, red and purple foliage there as the deep shade prohibits bloom. Aruncus, Trollius, Ligularia, Columbine, Dicentra, Corydalis, Heuchera, Hosta and Sib Iris will bloom there as well as variegated Soloman's Seal. Actually, the Oriental Lilies do well there too. It's been very difficult to establish shrubs there too, because of the voles. Even Hydrangea don't like it there.
Here's a whole shrub photo. This is the one with the first bloom I posted. I planted it 4 years ago. They grow about a foot a year. They will eventually get over 6 to 7' tall. They stay nice and dark green all year.
Sue, I was wondering too. I'm going back next week and will ask the owner. I went there to pick out a yellow Clivia, a Christmas present from my DSO. He had a few that he'd grown from seedlings of one he acquired in 1964. There are lots of giant old tropicals growing there.
It's near a feed store that special orders things for me. I stopped in last week and saw a giant Begonia that I wanted a baby of. He had none potted, so he broke off two babies and gave them to me. It was 3' tall and 4 to 5' wide. Here's the Begonia:
Polly, That Aztec Gold is the one that I said I have to move. Where I have it is either too shady or too damp. It is vigorous, it doesn't die, just lays down and doesn't flower. I think moving it over to a drier section with more sun will rejuevenate it. It is a very low grower, under 8", with nice bright leaves.
Oh, I forgot, I have Tutti Frutti also. No seeding here either. But if you get seed sown strain, Mary, it might, or maybe just because we are that much colder, they don't. But I would try that one. Love the foliage.
The link is from Walters Gardens. They are THE wholesale perennial suppliers in the US, so I would imagine they are giving correct info on it. I always thought veronicas needed more moisture though. Maybe that's why I keep killing them.
Polly your success with Apricot Sprite is great news to me. I grew 4 plants from seed and Onewish said hers was an annual in her area because she grows it out of zone.
I am hoping mine return next spring.
I also have Agastache Apache Sunset and Blur Fortune a broad leafed variety.
This is apache sunset
I love Apricot Sprite. The color and height are very nice. Onewish told me that her Tutti Frutti didn't return, but I don't remember her saying anything about Apricot Sprite. She grows lots of Agastaches in pots.