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Garden Talk: Oldbies - Part 1

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2009
10:30 PM

Post #7152684

Everyone is welcome to join in the chat.

We were all newbies at one time and now that we've been at DG a while maybe we can share some good hints for making gardening easier, thoughts about what went right or wrong in 2009 and our plans for 2010.

My memory sometimes fails me but I always know which is the bad leg on Petals because I have a band-aid on the front side of her leg.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2009
10:31 PM

Post #7152685

See? I even remembered to post a photo to show you!

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mamasita
Southern Dutchess Co, NY
(Zone 5b)

October 9, 2009
10:39 PM

Post #7152711

Ha ha! I use the same kind of thing to remind me if I've taken my pills in the morning! I'll be thinking about my garden hints, though. Good thread!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 9, 2009
10:43 PM

Post #7152721

Thanks, Lynn.

Now I use the Notebook feature on this computer so much more than ever before. When I get a brilliant thought I have to come in here and jot it down before I forget it. I have separate pages for inside and outside jobs, reminders for rainy day things I really want to do, lists for vacation reminders, etc. It does help.
cristina
Temuco
Chile
(Zone 9b)

October 10, 2009
1:38 AM

Post #7153343

Add me too to the group.

I'm a real oldy in DG's and I'll hear all that you have to say,now your season end but mine is just starting! and I can benefit from your experience.

Our spring is slowly warming up but a couple of days ago we have a GOOD frost, thank heavens I put some protection in some little tomatoes and lettuce, all well... ah!

I'm starting my vegie garden in the backyard and what I call my everything garden (front garden), I do not have lots of space so I do containers, vetables among the flowers and to complicate thing more, try to do some companion and some kind of rotation, Its fun and I'll see how I'll go this year.
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 10, 2009
4:18 AM

Post #7153742

Hi all;
there is a forum "Back Porch" that was started for the folks that had been around for awhile. Attendance tapered off and currently the active folks on the forum have poetry focused post,,but if you all want to come over, I would love to see you there or here.
I have lost touch with so many since I joined in 2001, after lurking for a wee bit.
We have frost/freeze warnings, hope to get to Farmers Market for tomatos and pepper.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 10, 2009
9:29 AM

Post #7153993

count me in
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 10, 2009
11:12 AM

Post #7154062

Thanks, Marcia.

Jo Ann, I figured we could count on you. How are the coleus cuttings? I received three more varieties, about four or five of each, yesterday and they were the quickest to perk up that I've ever been sent. The person also sent two nice clumps of Gaillardias that I'll be planting soon.

Another DG person sent a big box of dahlias so I'm looking forward to next year, as always.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 10, 2009
11:17 AM

Post #7154066

I think I've over done the cuttings.
I cant imagine what this place will look like in 9 months.Many just arent taking to being cuttings.Goldfinch is a looser as is Oxblood and even Watermelon is on the questionable list.
I have to keep reminding myself that I am not a patient person and easily bored so I just have to sit on my scissors and wait for parent plants to get going.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 10, 2009
11:46 AM

Post #7154090

I'm taking cuttings of Coleus today. Even though it was close to 80 F yesterday, I know the cold is coming, so I better stop sitting on my scissors and start clipping!

Cristina, I visited your country about 20 years ago. What a gorgeous country and most generous people!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 10, 2009
11:52 AM

Post #7154096

amen to that.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 10, 2009
12:51 PM

Post #7154195

Its 45* and raining sooooo depressing
On the other hand if it was March I'de be thrilled
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 10, 2009
1:15 PM

Post #7154249

Same here but we do have 65 degrees and overcast. In winter I'm out if it's sunny and there is no wind, regardless of temperature.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 10, 2009
3:43 PM

Post #7154675

Old/dead coleus leaves are giving me grief for keeping things nice and neat in all the windows where I have coleus growing. Aside from hand picking of every dropped leaf does anyone have a better idea that doesn't require dragging out a vacuum? The leaves are so crispy that they clog up my Dust Buster. I'm going back to a whisk broom and dustpan.
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 11, 2009
4:38 AM

Post #7156867

I haven't done any cuttings this season (other than rescuing the early cuttings from Christmas cactus that I had made and forgotten.) I have a Much smaller plant this year as I forgot the cuttings for a long time.
Froze last night and is down in the 20s' tonight. Growning season pretty much done here.
Now to dig and store the dahlias and do garden clean-up of all stuff that is left. It is suppose to warm up to the low 50s' next week, so will wait. We are almost 20 degrees cooler than usual. :(

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2009
9:09 AM

Post #7157033

When you dig your dahlias, how do you store them.?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 11, 2009
12:30 PM

Post #7157214

Here's Poochella's (Annie) thread on digging and dividing dahlias:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/662385/

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2009
1:43 PM

Post #7157343

thanks
DD has the dahlias in sphagnum.
I say nothing.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 11, 2009
2:17 PM

Post #7157437

As long as she sprays with a bit of water (only if the sphagnum moss seems dry) once a month she'll be fine. If this is the second year for them then they may need dividing.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2009
5:04 PM

Post #7157868

Its the first year
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 11, 2009
7:10 PM

Post #7158280

pirl, thanks for the link to dahlias..now I don't have to ask my vet!!!! She has championship dahlias:)

Now how about caladiums..this is first season as I potted the ones up from UMRU and would love to keep them,
Got to cut the callas back, I had them inside, but they need to get stored..
By the way..did I mention that I am behind.???? :0
LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2009
7:17 PM

Post #7158307

MariciaGeiger, aren't we all behind this time of year sometimes I wonder if I work harder in the fall than the spring is that possible lol

Iím not a dahlia person well as much as Pirl but the digging up and storing keeps me from having so many but Iím curious as to how many dahlias everyone has to dig up and if itís more than what Pirl has to dig up lol Iíll let her tell you how many she has if she wants to :)

I have a whole five of them but had about nine last year thinking I would never get them done before freezing weather would come in, the bulbs multiplied so much I just couldnít believe it! I lost a few trying to over winter them last year but it was my first year for trying them I hope I have better luck with them this year but have Pirlís Ďwords of wisdomí to get me thru them and more prepared for this year than last lol
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 11, 2009
11:29 PM

Post #7159026

Marcia - sad to say most people don't bother trying to save caladiums because, aside from Le Bug, most people can't get great success the second year and worse the third year. Look at the cost of 11 bulbs for $7.00 (through Caldiums4Less) as the price you'd pay for annuals. I hope that helps.

People like Poochella and Todgor on dahlias have 200 or more. I have about 33 or 35 and still dread the week long ordeal in November of cutting back/digging/hosing/cutting tubers with eyes and then bleaching/drying/dusting with fungicide/packaging for winter...but they're worth it.

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LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2009
11:49 PM

Post #7159082

Itís true I did have great success with the caladiums the first year I over wintered them but the second year not so good just a few survived then I just left them in the ground last year. They are such a good price when Caldiums4Less has them itís worth it to use them as annuals not saying I wonít try to save them again though lol

Love that dahlia Pirl!
mamasita
Southern Dutchess Co, NY
(Zone 5b)

October 11, 2009
11:55 PM

Post #7159101

My best gardening hint for the year is to forget about using sprays to deter the wretched deer and just use netting. This has been more effective (even though less attractive) than anything else I've tried. I actually had Montauk Daisies bloom this year. Just need to get out there and protect the shrubs before the snow flies.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
12:15 AM

Post #7159187

Snow! That's a four letter word like...deer!
mamasita
Southern Dutchess Co, NY
(Zone 5b)

October 12, 2009
12:46 AM

Post #7159314

Hee hee!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2009
8:43 AM

Post #7160308

Nepher sent pix of snow from Minneapolis.
Guess its time to cut back the containers and everything else in the garden.
It's 31* here.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
10:02 AM

Post #7160354

I've been taking more coleus cuttings, bringing more plants into the garage (to be washed before going inside), and doing those annoying odd and end jobs.

It's 45 here now and that was our low for the night so we're safe from frost.
mamasita
Southern Dutchess Co, NY
(Zone 5b)

October 12, 2009
11:01 AM

Post #7160431

We have 28 here this morning. Brrr!!!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
11:06 AM

Post #7160440

Come on down to sunny Long Island!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2009
11:25 AM

Post #7160470

zone envy here

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2009
11:39 AM

Post #7160494

Just checked the containers
MAN what a mess.
Potatovine is spinach and coleus are really droopy.
IT'S OVER.
Bring on winter and hunker down until May
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
11:58 AM

Post #7160522

Oh no! I am not ready for winter and do not tell me of any coleus sites! Now I have over 350 cultivars and I'm thankful there are only a "few" more to be cut back.

I took cuttings of the Blackheart sweet potato vine a month ago, when it was climbing up the stairs, never expecting them to root so easily! Now it's time to take cuttings of the green one and the variegated one.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2009
12:09 PM

Post #7160545

too late for mine.
Next year
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
12:29 PM

Post #7160580

If you want to you can dig up the potato section of the vine and save it in a cool spot (the same conditions as potatoes want) over the winter to get a head start on spring.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2009
12:41 PM

Post #7160612

good advise.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
12:53 PM

Post #7160641

Has anyone overwintered mandevillas successfully?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 12, 2009
1:08 PM

Post #7160677

Bought 3 of them in 1992. One died a few years later and the other two are still outside growing. I cut them back and bring them inside before a frost. They remain in a sunny window all winter and when spring starts they begin twining up the cords of blinds. Just keep cutting them back. They're best in an eastern exposure or set back a foot or more in a south or west window. No food in winter and not much water.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
2:23 AM

Post #7163350

Third year for my mandevilla, Louise. I put mine in a northern window, and fertilized it and watered it, and it bloomed all winter (sporadically), and has bloomed all summer. Since that is different than how Pirl cares for hers, I suspect they overwinter easily. I had to keep cutting mine back, also.

No frost here yet, Jo Ann. It's coming though. In the next two weeks for sure, from the weather report.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
9:56 AM

Post #7163965

There really isnt anything to photo except asters which I posted awhile ago.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
12:10 PM

Post #7164115

Polly, you keep fertilizing your Mandevilla during winter? We heat with wood and everything dries out a lot, so I do have to water a bit more than is typically recommended for winter. I have tried overwintering them both ways, allowing to go dormant and keeping them growing. I've had better luck keeping them growing.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 13, 2009
12:35 PM

Post #7164189

Me, too, Neal. The year I lost one was when I put the three of them downstairs to go dormant. After I lost the one I decided not to follow that course any more.

They'll come inside soon but they get no food until late February to early March when they're actively growing again.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
12:50 PM

Post #7164233

Seems odd to me that dormant storage doesn't work so well. The tubers look like a Dahlia tuber, like there would be plenty of carb reserves to get them through. I'm going to do my best to keep them alive- the red one I got from the Buried Treasures co op this spring is soooo gorgeous!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 13, 2009
12:53 PM

Post #7164246

Here's a thread I found on Mandevilla vines and how various people keep it through the winter: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/895803/

Someone even mentions the red one, Neal.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
1:23 PM

Post #7164335

Mine's the red one. I just put Miracle Gro whatever it is for houseplants on it once a month. I do have to keep cutting it back, though. It stays above my sink, so it's getting plenty of humidity. It certainly doesn't flower like it does outside, but it flowers pretty well all winter. I also have it pretty pot bound. I read once, they like to be pot bound.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 13, 2009
2:02 PM

Post #7164435

That's true about being pot bound.
LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
2:46 PM

Post #7164552

It's so nasty here this morning drisiling rain, windy and 40 degrees guess cleaning seeds are in order for today.

I've always wanted a Mandevilla but never thought I could over winter it sounds like I could try one for next year. I would love to have a red one I bet those are pretty I think the ones I've seen here are a dark pink maybe?
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
3:06 PM

Post #7164622

Oh LeBug, I go through your town every Wed to go to Jeffersonville to see my GDers. Had friends that lived there a long time ago and my sister lives in NewAlbany. Oh what a surprise.
LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 13, 2009
3:39 PM

Post #7164740

Oh that's cool you should stop by sometime I'm right by the water tower real easy to find :) Would love to meet you! I love meeting other DG'ers :)

venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 14, 2009
12:57 AM

Post #7166451

Thanks for all the tips on overwintering Mandevillas! I'm going to give it a shot this year. I better get hopping though, we've had some pretty nippy mornings.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

October 14, 2009
10:44 AM

Post #7167285

Lea, how far is Greenville from New Albany? I have friends there I visit from time to time.
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 14, 2009
12:02 PM

Post #7167381

I am going that way today and will look to see the water tower. I know it is there and remember seeing it but don't remember either if you know what I mean. LOL
gemini, it is only about a 15 to 20 min drive from New Albany, if that long.
lycodad
Hornell, NY
(Zone 5a)

October 14, 2009
12:26 PM

Post #7167423

If I'm an Oldbie, does that mean I'm not a Newbie anymore?

Al
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 14, 2009
1:10 PM

Post #7167527

oh Al I was an oldbie b4 I ever became a newbie LOL
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 14, 2009
1:54 PM

Post #7167634

Al - you're only as Newbie or Oldbie as you feel!
lycodad
Hornell, NY
(Zone 5a)

October 14, 2009
2:30 PM

Post #7167768

Actually, being a Newbie was kinda fun. I've found a lot of friends over there.

I spent half a day in the garden yesterday, I getting more oldbie by the minute, though! Got a two Advil backache, moving slow this morning.

Al

pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 14, 2009
2:55 PM

Post #7167869

I was outside planting for 6 hours yesterday and slept very well.
JasperDale
Long Beach, CA
(Zone 10a)

October 14, 2009
3:50 PM

Post #7168108

...then Jack finally had to wake her up and tell her to get inside the house !
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 14, 2009
3:59 PM

Post #7168149

Ha! Now on my way out again for hopefully just five hours today unless my bulb order arrives.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 15, 2009
9:18 AM

Post #7171099

this is funny
http://media.mtvnservices.com/video/player.swf?uri=mgid:cms:mvideo:cmt.com:40319&group=music&type=error&ref=None&geo=US
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 15, 2009
12:00 PM

Post #7171259

Very funny, if you're not wearing a striped shirt, a black shirt, sunglasses, etc.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 15, 2009
12:12 PM

Post #7171296

I loved how everyone just walked out of the place.
Goes to show you how much people can hear private conversations on cells
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 15, 2009
12:19 PM

Post #7171309

People who speak on cell phones for all to hear are SO annoying!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 15, 2009
12:22 PM

Post #7171319

AND I see Gov.Scwartzenagger's wifr was arrested for driving while using one.
JasperDale
Long Beach, CA
(Zone 10a)

October 15, 2009
1:58 PM

Post #7171593

Great idea behind that video ! LOL

Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


October 15, 2009
5:06 PM

Post #7172137

She got caught by photographers, (for the third time) caught as in photographed, not arrested.They don't arrest you for talking on a cell phone, they fine you. She had not been fined as she wasn't caught by the police.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 15, 2009
7:34 PM

Post #7172593

Shows you how much the news REALLY means to me.
JasperDale
Long Beach, CA
(Zone 10a)

October 16, 2009
2:02 AM

Post #7173999

I agree...the minute anything comes on about celebrities or political people I change the channel !
LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

October 16, 2009
3:19 AM

Post #7174238

I used to wait tables and people would keep talking when I would go to the table to take their order I would give them time to say their good byes or tell them to hold on and if they didn't do it I left and took my time getting back to them people are so rude like I had time to stand there while they talked!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 16, 2009
5:41 AM

Post #7174555

Hey folks, thought I'd drop in here and see what's going on. Does anyone know if Nastursiums can be over wintered?
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 16, 2009
5:50 AM

Post #7174567

Not certain about the plants,but I would haul them in if you haven't had first frost (succulant leaves) and if they haven't been collecting disease/bugs. It certainly is worth a try, might want to keep them in sun and give a bit of food to extend bloom cycle.
I am only bringing in the ones that were on the deck this season. I don't have room to keep any plants that have had to be treated for bugs due to energetic new dog that loves to sample things..my glasses (have 2 new pair since he came home with me, dirty socks, tissue, any food within snatching distance etc..
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 16, 2009
5:55 AM

Post #7174575

Thanks, Marcia. They have gotten quite long and viney. Should I take cuttings or just cut them back?

Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


October 16, 2009
6:37 AM

Post #7174611

They get pretty ratty looking by the end of the year. I just collect seeds, and plant them , they are easy to spout and you have a fresh looking plant.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 16, 2009
6:38 AM

Post #7174614

Thanks, Sue.

Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


October 16, 2009
6:41 AM

Post #7174615

They are cheerful annuals!

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 16, 2009
6:54 AM

Post #7174624

Very pretty, Sue. I'm partial to the speckled leafed ones with the orange blossums.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 16, 2009
8:52 AM

Post #7174662

They dont winter here.Theyre tender annuals.
The will self seed.I had a beauty that came up in the compost in May,transplanted it and here it is

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 16, 2009
12:06 PM

Post #7174852

I love the surprise plants I find growing in compost!

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venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

October 17, 2009
1:39 AM

Post #7177728

I love the plants growing anywhere in Pirl's gardens...

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 17, 2009
2:21 AM

Post #7177943

How very sweet of you, Louise. The collage is beautiful! Thank you so much!
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

October 17, 2009
3:41 AM

Post #7178272

Pirls compost plants (golden creeping Jenny and the sedum (Is that Purple Emperor?) look better than my garden plants by far...:)
Stormyla...If the plants have any cluster of green leaves at the base, you might have a start for continued bloom..otherwise would go with the "let them seed out" with all the plants and start anew..would do that for at least some anyway as seeds have gotten so much costlier than when I started gardening.
I don't think you can root cuttings from it, (not positive..but pretty certain).

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 17, 2009
9:13 AM

Post #7178635

pirls gardens are great
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

October 17, 2009
2:17 PM

Post #7179055

Yes, Marcia, you guessed all the plants correctly.

Thanks, Jo Ann. I try my best.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

October 17, 2009
3:02 PM

Post #7179148

Thanks, Ge & Marcia.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 14, 2009
3:31 PM

Post #7273238

Read a great quote this morning -

QUOTE FOR THE DAY:

"Are you a happy person until something makes you unhappy? Or are you an unhappy person until something make you happy?"

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2009
3:34 PM

Post #7273254

I'm a happy person first.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 14, 2009
3:39 PM

Post #7273262

Me, too. I'm always amused by the little things that elate my spirits - like finding two coupons for $25.00 each during the last week for places where I ordered plants. You'd think from my reaction that I won the lottery.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2009
3:41 PM

Post #7273268

At the rate I lost plants last season 25.dollars is a plant fro free.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 14, 2009
3:51 PM

Post #7273281

Precisely! I was weak and ordered a yellow peony (I don't even love peonies!) but the coupon more than covered the cost. Guess I ordered at the right time since now they're sold out but I already received my order and have the peony:

http://www.dutchgardens.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DutchGardens-Site/default/Link-CategoryProduct?cgid=peoniesf&pid=30246S

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 14, 2009
4:16 PM

Post #7273339

Its just beautiful.
Looks somewhat like a Anemone
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 14, 2009
4:24 PM

Post #7273360

The photo made the sale as it almost always does for me.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 14, 2009
6:58 PM

Post #7273759

I'm a very happy person and find many reasons to laugh at myself daily. The simplest little things can make me smile. Whenever I find myself getting crabby, I look for some children to play with. It's darn near impossible not to be amused and have your spirits lifted just being around little ones. Makes a nice break for their parents too.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 14, 2009
11:35 PM

Post #7274534

I am happy firs. I only find myself unhappy if I am over tired or have not eaten. Then myself and everyone around me is unhappy. My DH comes running with something to eat.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
12:44 AM

Post #7274745

LOL A wise man!
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

November 15, 2009
3:01 AM

Post #7275126

I'm a happy first person. It's interesting that as I've aged the things that make me unhappy have changed since I was a young pup.

The yellow peony is intriguing. I think I would like a yellow tree peony.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 15, 2009
3:23 AM

Post #7275180

Our neighbor bought her tree peonies at the Philadelphia Flower Show a few years ago.

Now a take out meatball hero, enjoyed at home, is a thrill for me after a long day of working in the garage. Years ago it probably would have been far less exciting or thrilling.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
3:29 AM

Post #7275193

Anything that I don't have too cook after a long day of working in the mist and mud thrills me, especially when topped off with some Hot Chocolate!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
3:54 AM

Post #7275271

I'm with you on the meatball sub, Pirl. Cheese, onions and peppers here, please, and a nice frosty beer. The end to a great day of gardening.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

November 15, 2009
4:05 AM

Post #7275300

I'm not big on meatball subs, a Phillie cheesesteak is my guilty pleasure. And when the weather gets cold a hot chocolate in the evening is heavenly.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
4:43 AM

Post #7275388

I have a Farfugium that's been making me smile all month. It's trying it's darndest to bloom. The bud looks like it's not going to open, but I've been greatly inspired by it's struggle to burst forth!

It's hard to tell here, but can you see that stalk rising out of the one on the left? This photo was taken on 10-17. The petals are now fully visable, but the bud isn't completely open. The valiant effort of this young plant has thrilled me!

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
4:51 AM

Post #7275407

Cool! I can see the stem. I've never seen the bloom on those, but I love the spotted leaves. Has it overwintered for you yet? I do know some are hardy here, I don't know which ones, though.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
5:32 AM

Post #7275468

No, Polly, I just planted them this summer. They are a newer variety supposed to be hardy in zone 6. I couldn't find the variety name quickly. I'll look up the name.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
5:35 AM

Post #7275477

I do know that the slugs love them!!!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
5:51 AM

Post #7275506

If you do find the name, please post it. I'd like to try them. It looks like they have yellow flowers. I planted some mukdenia this spring, and that's looking very nice. Nice fall colors on it. The farfugium might look nice next to it.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
6:17 AM

Post #7275534

Polly, I got it from BigDipper Farms. Farfugium Tussilaginea Aureomaculatum. Hardy to zone 5.

I have some Mukdenia on order for the spring. I hope they do well. Here's an interesting one that I put in this summer.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/82177/

It has the neatest velvety leaves. It's still looking very good today. No die back so far.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

November 15, 2009
12:26 PM

Post #7275762

I've had no luck with mukdenia. It comes up every spring but peters out in the heat of summer. How do you grow yours Polly?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:05 PM

Post #7275887

I planted mine just this spring Louise. It's in quite a bit of shade, well watered. I did put some composted cow manure in the planting hole, but we're mostly sandy loam. Essentially the way I grow heucheras. It is a slow grower, for sure.

Thanks Mary, I'll get that one then. It's funny, I just made a trade with someone for spring for saxifraga. I don't know if they will do well here or not, but the lady showed a picture on the sedum forum, and I love the flowers.

From pictures the mukdenia has pretty flowers too.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:24 PM

Post #7275940

STOP now I want some.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:27 PM

Post #7275945

Some what, Jo Ann? Or all of the above? I'm pretty sure I saw some farfugium at Wayside a couple of years ago. I never did get there this year.

I have such limited shade, darn it.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:31 PM

Post #7275955

it will be on my list.I'll check at Gro-More this spring.
The woman in charge of perennials is willing to look into special requests so I ordered 2 Astilbe OstrichPlume type peach color (german name,I cant remember)
Maybe she would consider Mukdenias
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:34 PM

Post #7275964

Where is Gro More? How wonderful to have a place to buy from that will try to accomodate!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:53 PM

Post #7276022

Gro-More is on East Henrietta Road behind the Dome.
If you come from the xpress way aoff Jefferson Road and head south you must cross over Calkins Road.Gro-More is on the right, You can see the Dome Arena behind it.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
2:57 PM

Post #7276037

Not too far north of the thruway then. That's the way I normally come to get to the Henrietta area. I can't believe I've never been there, then. I'll have to check it out next year. And hopefully we can meet up next year, Jo Ann.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
3:06 PM

Post #7276065

I was really dissapointed we couldnt get together this year.I would love to have you see my gardens and I live about 15 mins from there.
The farthest Thruway exit would bring you very close to Gro-More.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
4:25 PM

Post #7276261

Here's another neat shade plant that I got this summer. It's called
Sorbaria sorbifolia. It can get up to 5' tall. It has wonderful mutiple colored foliage.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
4:29 PM

Post #7276269

That is handsome
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
4:34 PM

Post #7276291

Thanks, Ge. Still trying to bring some color to the back of this very shady bed. So far, after the Aruncus and Trollius are done blooming, it's a mass of green back there. I did move a white Camellia back there this summer, but that one will bloom next month.
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
4:42 PM

Post #7276331

stormy,
I have got ask. You said you have a Camellia and it is out side? If so what kind is it and is it hardy?
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
4:52 PM

Post #7276355

flowerfantasy, There are now quite a few cold hardy Camellias. The ones that I've had success with are the Ackerman Hybrids. They are rated to zone 6, but I've seen people post photos of them in Minnesota. I have 6 of them, all thriving and blooming well. The darker the shade, the better. Greer Gardens always has a number of them.

Here's one putting out it's buds for next spring. This photo was taken last week. I love how darkly green they stay all winter. These look better in the winter than the Rhodos and the EV Azaleas. They are also less finicky for me than those two.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
4:57 PM

Post #7276367

Here's a photo from last April.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
6:04 PM

Post #7276532

Wow! I heard they were coming out with them, but then never checked in the past couple of years. I will now.

How about some anemones for fall color in the shade?

Definitely next year, Jo Ann.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
6:30 PM

Post #7276569

I planted these Anemones "Honorine Jobert" last fall. They bloomed around Oct 1st. They are only about 3' tall this year, but are supposed to get 4 to 5' tall when full grown.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
6:32 PM

Post #7276576

Lovely. I love fall bloomers. I have a pink one that really spreads, and for some reason, I just don't care for pink as a fall color. The white is nice.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
6:42 PM

Post #7276592

I like to put potted white caladiums where things have no color
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
6:47 PM

Post #7276607

stormy, does Greer Gardens have a website? I would like to have a couple of them myself but never got any cause I didn't know their were any that were hardy to my zone.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
6:58 PM

Post #7276631

Flowerfantasy, Here ya go!

http://www.greergardens.com/camellias1.htm

pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
7:01 PM

Post #7276635

I really need to try one of those. How much snow cover do you get, Mary? We supposedly have winter temps to -10, used to be -20, but I haven't seen a below zero here in years. So, I think they would do well.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
7:06 PM

Post #7276646

GE, Yes, I like to do that too. I was just so busy this year that I never even planted my really tall pots. Plus I ran out of Caladiums. That silly daisy/gazing globe gets moved around a lot depending on where the greenest spot is.

The pots only made it as far out of the basement door to the edge of "Tomato Alley"

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
7:11 PM

Post #7276653

Polly, Unfortunately, we don't get enough snow cover. Too much maritime influence here. We're 15 miles to the bay and 60 miles to the ocean. We suffer from a lot of ground heave, especially for the Heuchera. Last year we did have one snow cover that lasted almost 3 weeks. But when it thawed, all sorts of plants and shrubs heaved. I lost 2 beloved Daphnes. But most of them came back, even the Skimmia.
flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
7:47 PM

Post #7276764

Thanks for the link stormy. They have some fabulous plants there. I hadn't ever heard of this place until you had mentioned it.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
7:56 PM

Post #7276786

flowerfantasy, They are well respected and have been in business for many years. They are a Watchdog Top5 for Rhodo's, Azaleas and Camellias. One of my Camellias failed shortly after planting and they replaced it, no questions asked.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 15, 2009
8:23 PM

Post #7276852

beautiful
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 15, 2009
10:14 PM

Post #7277144

Not sure what's beautiful, Ge.

Polly, I don't like pink in the fall garden either. I wish that Begonia Grandis came in something other than Pink or white. Yellow would be nice. I'm not a big fan of pink anytime of the year. The only pinks I have are Begonia Grandis, a few Oriental Lilies and some Echies.

My last garden was all pink, fuschia, purple, blue and white. I just got tired of it after so many years. I wanted bold colors here, not easily accomplished in an area with so much shade.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
1:19 AM

Post #7277761

Amazing how bodies of water can affect snow. We are about one mile from the lake, and Jo Ann can't be far off it, and we both get quite a bit of snow. But if you go 10 miles more south of the lake they get little snow. The thruway seems to be the dividing line in this area where they get a lot of snow or not.

Nice collection of pretty pots!

I'm into blues and purples, but I'm getting so I like the bolder colors more. I've put some reds in with the purples and blues, and if they are the right shade of red, they seem to go nicely. Pastels are out with me, currently.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
2:02 AM

Post #7277884

Polly, I'd love to have more snow. We used to get a lot more, but with so much development, the area is a lot warmer than it used to be. Guess the concrete effect is moving out of the city.

I also love yellows, orange & corals with blues and purples and lime green and some apricots. And white works with anything except up against my white house and white fence!!!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
2:10 AM

Post #7277905

Oh, definitely lime green. Love lime green. Do you know some of the iris pseudatas have lime green foliage that stays lime green all year? Aichi No Kagayaki comes out chartreuse and turns lime green during the summer.

http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Current/Detail/05794.html

Of course, I'm always thinking iris.

Who has lime green plants? I'd love some more. I have alchemilla mollis, and hostas, but that's about it. if anyone knows of any, I'd love some more. They set off the blues and purples so well.
JasperDale
Long Beach, CA
(Zone 10a)

November 16, 2009
2:48 AM

Post #7278008

I just bought 2 lime green Heucheras...but they didn't have a name on them. I'm going to pair them with Purple Leafed Oxalis.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
2:54 AM

Post #7278025

That will be a nice pairing. I recall there are some lime green heucheras. I forgot about them, and will have to look into them. Thanks, Mike.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
2:54 AM

Post #7278027

Yes, Polly. That's the one I wanted from you, but you were sold out.

There are lots of lime green plants. 4 or more varieties of Heuchera. Some arisaema. Many Hydrangea. Spireas. Aquilegias. Tiarellas. Sedums. Geraniums. Corydalis. Dicentra. Euphorbias. Epimediums. Forsythias. Campanula. Primrula. Philadelphus. Salvia. Daphnes. Hypericums. Ferns. Heucherella. I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of the obvious ones.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
2:55 AM

Post #7278031

Ooooo JasperDale, I LOVE that idea.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
2:57 AM

Post #7278037

Wow, great list. I have lots of Limelight hydrangeas. They do go well with everything. Hmm, lime sedum, I'll have to check that. And a lot of the others also.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
3:00 AM

Post #7278046

Polly, Do you have any Annabelle Hydrangea?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
3:04 AM

Post #7278059

Yes. Quite a few. In my at home nursery, which I am just about out of now, I sold ornamental grasses, and 'go with' plants like hydrangeas. I have quite a few hydrangeas left over. Huge size though.

My two favorite hydrangeas are Limelight and White Dome. We can't reliably grow the macrophyllas here.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
3:08 AM

Post #7278069

Polly, Even here, I have to protect the buds in winter. I'm not familiar with White Dome. Will check it out. Do you have a little honey Oakleaf?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
3:28 AM

Post #7278124

Yes, I have Little Honey, Alice, Harmony, Snowflake and Snow Queen. Their leaves are gorgeous maroon right now.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
3:32 AM

Post #7278133

LOL, I love Hydrangeas!!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
3:36 AM

Post #7278142

Oh, me too. Snowflake I don't get too many panicles on, but the ones I get are so full, and heavy.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 16, 2009
2:20 PM

Post #7278715

Hey about snow and the lake.
I am 9 miles or so south of the lake and we gat snow.
I had heard that rt.5&20 was an old Indian train and they had a special relationship with the elements. They seemed to know where it was safe to set up permanent villages. Seldome made mistakes about living in a flood plane etc.
Nothing like native knowlege I say.
I used to cross the route everyday when I drove a doctor from Canandaigua to Rochester. If the weather was horrible in the city all I had to do was get beyond 5&20 and it would change.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 16, 2009
6:57 PM

Post #7279593

Polly, For lime & Gold leaves, check out Hypericum "Brigadoon" and "Golden Tutsan". Also Dicentra "Goldheart".
cedarcottage
Madison, MS

November 17, 2009
1:57 AM

Post #7280957

Hi ya'll,

I love hydrangeas, can someone share how to plant hydrangeas I seem to kill them, is there a special trick?


Sue
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
2:18 AM

Post #7281012

Ooh, I like those hypericums!

Hi Sue, welcome to Daves Garden. I'll let someone else answer you about hyrangeas. The only kind I grow are the paniculatas, and other cold hardy ones, and they wouldn't be the ones you would grow in your area. But someone else will come along. But I wanted to say welcome!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
2:26 AM

Post #7281039

Polly, How about a Campanula Dickson's Gold?

Sue, The only Hydrangeas that have died on me were Mopheads that were planted in beds that were just too dry for them. They need a lot of water, sometimes twice a day.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
2:30 AM

Post #7281046

I killed that one once, Mary. It is pretty, though. Maybe I should try again.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
2:35 AM

Post #7281055

It has a reputation for being tough to establish.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
2:59 AM

Post #7281121

Polly, I grow this Aztec Gold. It needs to be moved to a drier, more sunny location than where I have it now:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54821/
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
3:01 AM

Post #7281125

Beautiful when in flower, too.

I think Pam Harper has a section in her book on lime green foliage. I'll have to pull it out tomorrow.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
11:05 AM

Post #7281788

Love the golds.
Any ideas as to why Dicksons gold failes for you Polly?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
1:34 PM

Post #7282050

No idea, Jo Ann. But I don't do well with campanulas in general, although we have campanula persicifolia seeding all over the place. And this year for the first time, a friend sent me some c. medium (cups and saucers) that is still blooming for me. But the campanula family is so varied I would love to have more. Our sandy soil just doesn't support some plants.

I had the idea of edging a bed with the Blue Clips. Not one survived.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
1:39 PM

Post #7282068

Polly, Have you tried any of the Peach Leaf Bell Flowers?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
1:48 PM

Post #7282096

That's the one that seeds all over here, Mary. I'm sorry, but after having a nursery for so long, I tend to refer to the flowers by their Latin names. I think that's the same one as peach leaf. I'm going to have to try that Dickson's Gold again, though. I love that contrast between the gold leaves, and the blue flowers. Another one I love is glomerata.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
1:53 PM

Post #7282122

Heuchera Lime Marmalade is lovely.

http://www.terranovanurseries.com/w/pages/plants/heuchera-lime-marmalade.php
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
2:26 PM

Post #7282265

Yes, I love the Clustered Bellflower too. But the Peachleafs are my favorite and seem to do well no matter where I plant them.

Is the Lime Marmalade one of TNN's new ones? This is "Harvest Lemon Chiffon"

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
2:45 PM

Post #7282311

I have spreading Camp. Blue Falls it wont quit here but we dont have sand either, maybe thats the problem.

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LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
3:03 PM

Post #7282365

Polly your C. Bells are still blooming? Mine quite a long time ago I have purple ones to plant for this year :) I had a gold campanula out in the middle bed for this year planted last year and the weeds took it over I was so looking forward to those!

I have a beautiful blue campanula that I don't know the name to out there that is still blooming, we have had a couple of hard frost too!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
3:09 PM

Post #7282379

I have Camp.Urtisificola it is still going but justa few flowers

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
3:10 PM

Post #7282383

That's pretty, Ge. I put in a few of the ground cover types of Campanula this year, but haven't seen them bloom yet.

These lime Heuch's are "pistache".

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LeBug
Greenville, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
3:12 PM

Post #7282387

My blue one is pretty close to that one except my flower petals are cut deeper :) Same size flowers though and foliage.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
3:13 PM

Post #7282397

I'd love to get some Campanulas that would bloom this late. Your's is very nice GE, a different flower form.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
3:17 PM

Post #7282411

Polly, If you are looking for something taller in lime foliage, have you tried Filipendula Aurea? I put some in this spring and was quite pleased with both the foliage and the blooms.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/76551/

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
3:21 PM

Post #7282422

I have a different one planted with Torches and Red Dutch lilies.
These were new this year and some didnt make it.
Its at the left
I need to correct the id here.
This is Sarastro

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
3:25 PM

Post #7282432

Great Color, Ge. I don't have any Campanula that have those pendent type of bells. Mine are all out facing.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
4:12 PM

Post #7282603

I also love the Gold foliage on this Dicentra "Gold Heart". The gals in the MidAtlantic from Maryland south all say their foliage disappears around July. Mine stays all summer. Probably in NY and north it would too.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
4:21 PM

Post #7282638

I think Lime Marmalade is a newer one. Harvest Lemon Chiffon is lovely! I like that filipendula too! I do have Gold Heart, and that does well for me.

Ha, Lea, yes mine is still blooming. That'll teach you to grow something for me!I can't believe it's gone through all these frosts and freezes and is still blooming. I roughed up the soil under it, so hopefully it will seed. It's considered a biennial, right?

Sarasto is pretty Jo Ann. I like those downfacing bells too.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
5:33 PM

Post #7282874

Polly, How about a gold Forsythia?

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
6:33 PM

Post #7283067

Those I have lots of. Although now i need a butterfly chair, LOL. What lovely neat gardens.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
6:56 PM

Post #7283128

LOL, That was the 1st week of April before anything emerged. They are not very neat now!! My poor Hummingbird bench has been torn apart in sections since August getting the overhaul for rust. DSO doesn't stay with the project and I hope it's back together before spring, because it is my favorite bulb viewing spot.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
7:02 PM

Post #7283151

Oops, sorry, hummingbird. My beds never look that neat.

Here's my garden in late spring, not a cottage type, but way too exuberant. I have a spirea in there that shows up nice, and I think some of the lime green plants would look nice, but I need to make room.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
7:20 PM

Post #7283203

That's really pretty, Polly. What is that wonderful gold leaved tree in the background?

Here's a large part of my big bed in early May.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
7:24 PM

Post #7283218

And here it is only 2 weeks later starting to take on it's "Jungle" look!

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
8:38 PM

Post #7283465

nice everyone
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
8:43 PM

Post #7283485

Polly, Here's a gold Heucherella "Sunspot".

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
8:45 PM

Post #7283492

Thanks Jo Ann.

Mary, I don't think that's a gold leaved tree, I think that was just the afternoon light hitting it. That's our 1/2 mile roadway to our house, where that tree is. They are mainly oaks.

I still think yours looks nice and neat in the second poicture. That car planter is cute.

Here's a pic of the spring leaves on Aichi

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 17, 2009
8:46 PM

Post #7283498

We cross posted. Sunspot is pretty. You have a lot of nice cultivars.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 17, 2009
10:46 PM

Post #7283893

Thanks, Polly. You'll have to save some of those for me. I plant a lot of gold and lime plants because some parts of my beds are too dark for much of anything to bloom, like down here at this corner.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 18, 2009
3:15 AM

Post #7284885

Your landscapes are beautiful. You can see a bunch of love and hard work went into it. I have a lime green no name I purchased a year ago at Loews. I planted one in holding bed that gets partial sun and one in full sun. They both lived through the winter until July heat hit and the one in the sun bit the dust. I bought it just because of the color. I am always looking for unusual colors. I have a lime green Amaryllis but it is weird. I will send a photo of plant tomorrow. It has a very tiny blue flower. I could send you a start. I looked at it today and it appears to have many sections with many roots.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
3:40 AM

Post #7284974

The gold and lime do show up well there. And I just love them with blues.

Thanks Sharon. i would love to see pictures from your garden. One of my good friends lived in Las Vegas, and she had a lot of trouble adapting to the gardening there, although not to the climate. She has since moved back due to personal reasons, but would love to be back in LV.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 18, 2009
4:20 AM

Post #7285103

It is a learning experience to garden in Las Vegas. It took me 10 years but now I am the Queen. Just ask me,. I will tell you. Now we are now rebuilding and getting plants ready for spring. It is not easy but give her my D mail and I will personally hold her hand. I have many plants that can be relocated.,,.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 18, 2009
4:24 AM

Post #7285113

Thank you Polly & Skwinter. Golds and limes are great and I'm always on the lookout for more.

SKwinter, I've been following what you've been writing about your Hydroponics endeavor in the Iris forum. That is just too funny for words. LOL I remember how excited you were when given the first opportunity. I'd love to see a photo of a blue Amaryllis. I had no idea they came in blue.

Polly, Talk about golds and blues, did you see that planting in the photo contest of the blue sib iris and the gold lupine?? Gorgeous. And it is sooooo hard to grow Lupines here, Delphiniums too.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
4:27 AM

Post #7285121

Thank you so much for the offer. She would have loved that. She's moved back here though. Her husband passed away, and she moved back here. Since she has no family in LV and does here, I expect she will stay here. She had only been married a couple of years, and he died unexpectedly. She was in an abusive marriage for around 20 years, left, found a nice man, and then he died. Very sad.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
4:31 AM

Post #7285136

Well, Mary, yes I did. That was one of Boojums photos, and she is the one that mainly did the pictures for my website. her pictures are wonderful. She and Pirl, also a fantastic photographer, were kind enough to give me pictures for the website. How lucky was that?

I love the picture of the lupine and the sibs. Pirl sent me a lupine last year, and it grew and bloomed. My first one that ever survived. Thanks, Pirl!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 18, 2009
4:39 AM

Post #7285158

Polly, that is wonderful!! Your website looks great. Thanks to Pirl and Boojums! That photo of hers took my breath away. So did the one of the lupines growing at the beach. What I loved about Boojum's photo was the powerful statement made by the lone lupine. An artiste at work there!

I'm really surprised to hear that you've had difficulty growing Lupines. Everyone of my friends that lives even an hour west or north thinks I'm crazy not to be able to grow Lupines. Believe me, I try every year. I have a soul survivor and it didn't bloom this year.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
4:41 AM

Post #7285168

It is wonderful. I'm blessed to have such great friends.

I've never had luck with lupines or delphs. Here again, I think it's our sandy soil. Just not heavy enough.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 18, 2009
4:43 AM

Post #7285182

Is there sand there because of the lake or the change in the seaway when the glaciers left?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
9:57 AM

Post #7285587

nice pix everyone
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 18, 2009
1:39 PM

Post #7285835

I said the Amaryllis was lime green not blue. I thought it would be different and very cool but it is not. When it blooms in the spring I will take photo. From my observation, there is nothing that Pirl is bad at. Just a lovely lady with knowledge and the warm spirit to share.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 18, 2009
2:16 PM

Post #7285938

From my understanding it has to do with the glaciers. We have quite a few drumlins in the area, and I guess those are unique.


Sharon, I'm confused, you said the amaryllis was lime green with a tiny blue flower? Is it a lime green flower? I do have one that has a lime green flower. It should be blooming in the house around Christmas and I will have to remember to take a picture. How many different amaryllis do you have? We can only grow them as houseplants here.

Thanks, Jo Ann.
cedarcottage
Madison, MS

November 18, 2009
7:13 PM

Post #7286881

Hi

Stormyla, the gold and lime green just makes your flower bed pop, beautiful. I'm jealous.


cedarcottage.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 18, 2009
9:45 PM

Post #7287325

OK, JoAnn, I guess I had better pay attention to what I am typing. The lime green with the little blue flower is a no name plant I got at Loews. The lime green Amaryllis has a lime green flower. They grow outside here and bloom in the spring. I have Pink, Pink & White and then of course Red. I have three vibrant Orange Amaryllis I got as a gift from Jackson & Perkins. This is the second season in the ground and they have not bloomed. But they were beautiful when they bloomed in the house. I will hold my breath for luck in the spring.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 19, 2009
10:17 PM

Post #7290699

Cedarcottage & Ge, Thank you. Cedar, please don't be jealous. That's one of my most difficult areas as it is vole infested. I just realized that they have eaten all of my siberian iris and hardy cyclamen in there. The voles constantly eat the silver ferns that I plant there too.The flat part of the ground there is damp and the small hill is bone dry. Lots of trial and error needed over there.
I try to keep a fair amount of gold, lime, silver, red and purple foliage there as the deep shade prohibits bloom. Aruncus, Trollius, Ligularia, Columbine, Dicentra, Corydalis, Heuchera, Hosta and Sib Iris will bloom there as well as variegated Soloman's Seal. Actually, the Oriental Lilies do well there too. It's been very difficult to establish shrubs there too, because of the voles. Even Hydrangea don't like it there.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 20, 2009
4:36 AM

Post #7291871

Looks like we need a hit man from Las "Vegas. I have their phone numbers...Just for practice, nothin g important. IE, Animals only.,
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 20, 2009
4:49 AM

Post #7291891

LOL, Skwinter I'd love to see some Vegas hit guy out there shooting those varmits!!!
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 20, 2009
6:17 PM

Post #7293090

Oh you wouldn't see him and probably wouldn't even hear him. You know, silencer ...
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
2:40 AM

Post #7298285

Polly, Here's another one of those cold hardy Camellias. This one is called "April's Tryst". It is full of buds now.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/267639/
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 22, 2009
2:56 AM

Post #7298339

How beautiful! I am definitely going to try one.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
3:29 AM

Post #7298407

Here's a whole shrub photo. This is the one with the first bloom I posted. I planted it 4 years ago. They grow about a foot a year. They will eventually get over 6 to 7' tall. They stay nice and dark green all year.

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flowerfantasy
Washington, IN
(Zone 6a)

November 22, 2009
1:39 PM

Post #7299165

That looks so much like the Rododenren bush I have . The leaves look pretty much the same. LOL I know they are different because of the flowers.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 22, 2009
1:43 PM

Post #7299178

And it stays green all year for you? What a plus!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
6:20 PM

Post #7300048

Yes, They are evergreen. These are the spring blooming ones. The foliage on the fall blooming ones is more sparse and the leaves are smaller.

I took this photo this morning. I didn't think this would bloom this year as I transplanted it in July

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 22, 2009
6:25 PM

Post #7300059

And they are fragrant?
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
6:27 PM

Post #7300069

Not that I've noticed.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
8:40 PM

Post #7300438

Thought I'd show you all this photo I took yesterday at a local greenhouse. This plant blew me away.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 22, 2009
8:52 PM

Post #7300467

Oh my goodness. That is spectacular. Thanks for sharing..
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 22, 2009
9:00 PM

Post #7300484

It was over 5' tall and more than 2' of that was the exposed roots. Life does find a way!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 23, 2009
1:08 AM

Post #7301196

I hurt thinking of moving it
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2009
3:51 AM

Post #7301808

It would have to be moved on wheels and be kept at home on wheels. You could decorate a whole room around that thing.

Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


November 23, 2009
3:15 PM

Post #7302107

What a work of art, wonder how old it is.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2009
3:33 PM

Post #7302177

Sue, I was wondering too. I'm going back next week and will ask the owner. I went there to pick out a yellow Clivia, a Christmas present from my DSO. He had a few that he'd grown from seedlings of one he acquired in 1964. There are lots of giant old tropicals growing there.

It's near a feed store that special orders things for me. I stopped in last week and saw a giant Begonia that I wanted a baby of. He had none potted, so he broke off two babies and gave them to me. It was 3' tall and 4 to 5' wide. Here's the Begonia:

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 23, 2009
4:43 PM

Post #7302477

That begonia is fantastic, makes ours look like a whimp

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Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


November 23, 2009
4:52 PM

Post #7302523

Sigh, oh tp have a greenhouse, or room for a greenhouse.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2009
5:04 PM

Post #7302551

LOL, Ge, your "wimp" is a lot bigger than any of mine!

Sue, If I had a greenhouse, every other area of my life would be neglected, more than it is now.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 23, 2009
5:05 PM

Post #7302556

I love the fringed leaves on that begonia
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2009
5:07 PM

Post #7302572

Thanks Ge. It's called the 720 degree begonia.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 23, 2009
5:09 PM

Post #7302580

nice
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 23, 2009
5:59 PM

Post #7302743

Speaking of gold leaved plants, has anyone seen that new gold Brunnera called "Diane's Gold"?

http://www.terranovanurseries.com/w/pages/plants/brunnera-dianes-gold.php

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 23, 2009
8:37 PM

Post #7303320

I like Jack Frost the best.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

November 24, 2009
5:29 AM

Post #7304917

From the appearance of those plants, they are feeding the plants human blood. You may want to take another person with] you when you go next week. LOL I think I saw that on Law & Order...
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 24, 2009
6:10 AM

Post #7305015

LOL

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 24, 2009
10:27 AM

Post #7305219

Yeahhhh
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 30, 2009
10:44 PM

Post #7323013

I came across this golden leafed Agastache. It grows 20" tall and is fragrant. Might have to try some of these. Says it blooms first year from seed.

http://www.parkseed.com/gardening/PD/0107/
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

November 30, 2009
10:50 PM

Post #7323032

While I did not grow that particular agastache, the one we did grow self-seeded far too wildly. I was removing offspring for years. We did get the seed from Park's.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
11:02 PM

Post #7323063

That's pretty Mary. I have some agastache Apricot Sprite that has done well here.

I saw this veronica while looking for lime or yellow colored leaves. I don't do well with veronicas normally, but I might try this one.

http://www.waltersgardens.com/plants/view/?plant=856
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 30, 2009
11:12 PM

Post #7323105

Pirl, I think that must have been the variety you had. I have Blue Fortune, Black Adder, Apricot Sprite and Tutti Frutti and some others. None of them reseed for me.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 30, 2009
11:17 PM

Post #7323129

Polly, That Aztec Gold is the one that I said I have to move. Where I have it is either too shady or too damp. It is vigorous, it doesn't die, just lays down and doesn't flower. I think moving it over to a drier section with more sun will rejuevenate it. It is a very low grower, under 8", with nice bright leaves.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
11:19 PM

Post #7323138

Oh, I forgot, I have Tutti Frutti also. No seeding here either. But if you get seed sown strain, Mary, it might, or maybe just because we are that much colder, they don't. But I would try that one. Love the foliage.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
11:22 PM

Post #7323148

We cross posted, sorry. I guess since it's prostata, it will lie down. Do you like the foliage enough to recommend it? I'm not so concerned about the flowers, anyway.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

November 30, 2009
11:26 PM

Post #7323166

Yes, Polly, It has a nice bright color. It says, in your link, that it needs a dry soil. Where I purchased it from, didn't include that recommendation, nor did PF.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

November 30, 2009
11:29 PM

Post #7323184

The link is from Walters Gardens. They are THE wholesale perennial suppliers in the US, so I would imagine they are giving correct info on it. I always thought veronicas needed more moisture though. Maybe that's why I keep killing them.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 1, 2009
12:21 AM

Post #7323377

This Cerastostigma "My Love" grows less than 18" and is a fall to frost bloomer. I put one in this summer, but it may not have made it.

http://www.heronswood.com/perennials_perennials-b-to-c_ceratostigma/ceratostigma-my-love/

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
12:39 AM

Post #7323427

Polly your success with Apricot Sprite is great news to me. I grew 4 plants from seed and Onewish said hers was an annual in her area because she grows it out of zone.
I am hoping mine return next spring.
I also have Agastache Apache Sunset and Blur Fortune a broad leafed variety.
This is apache sunset

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
12:40 AM

Post #7323431

Apricot Sprite

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 1, 2009
1:12 AM

Post #7323538

I love Apricot Sprite. The color and height are very nice. Onewish told me that her Tutti Frutti didn't return, but I don't remember her saying anything about Apricot Sprite. She grows lots of Agastaches in pots.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
1:44 AM

Post #7323628

Two years on both of mine, but we've had such mild winters the last couple of years. That sunset is lovely, and looks nice with the coneflower.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
11:12 AM

Post #7324445

I am just nut about it.
Here it is with DL Red Thrill

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 1, 2009
1:34 PM

Post #7324664

GE, That DL is a real beauty. I too have my Apricot Sprite planted in with the DL's.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
4:03 PM

Post #7325020

That is a lovely combo, Jo Ann. Always so pleasing when something comes out great like that.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
5:24 PM

Post #7325253

It goes down in the annals of gardening mericles as That was the first year the DL bloomed.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 1, 2009
5:29 PM

Post #7325271

It may be a miracle, but due more to your artistic eyes.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
11:55 PM

Post #7360062

I came across another gold colored shrub that I planted this year. Or at least it's bright green and gold. It's a variegated Buddleia, called "Santana".

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Calif_Sue

Calif_Sue
Northern California
United States
(Zone 9a)


December 12, 2009
1:27 AM

Post #7360352

I have a small cutting of that one, love it's bright color!
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/218755/
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
1:57 AM

Post #7360427

Different!
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

December 12, 2009
4:39 AM

Post #7360823

Beautiful.

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