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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
09:19 PM Post #7170077
| Cordylines are often referred to as the ‘King of Tropical Foliage’ and they are a truly amazing plant, they have a vast array of leaf shape, size, colour and patterning. They are incredibly hardy when established, as I soon found out when one of mine was lightly covered in frost one winter’s morning.
I first started growing these beautiful plants around 12 years ago. Along the way, I have learnt a lot, sometimes through trial and error; and other times from cordyline growers in Qld with a similar climate to my own. I have met a lot of people and made lifelong friendships during this time. When I first started growing cordys in my garden, they all thought I was mad trying to grow these tropical beauties in an area where the winter temps regularly dropped below zero and frosts were common; and I was probably quite mad when I think back to the lack of overhead protection for them. I now have quite a large collection of named cordylines; that was until the cordys started to eat the plant tags. To try and find the names I have dug deeply around some of the older ones and managed to find some of the plant tags deep in the ground but with a lot of them I just could not dig deeply enough.
Come and share your experiences growing cordylines with us and your disasters as well - I know that I have had my own disasters. Or just share your cordylines with us.
Even, if you don’t grow cordylines; then just drop in for a visit to say ‘Hi’ and to see these beautiful plants.
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
09:59 PM Post #7170268
| congrats on getting the pictures going ...I do love the look of cordylines but I have always been a bit scared of them dropping dead ...
here is a fairly typical example of what we are familiar with in our gardens perhaps you can tell us how to do it better ...
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
10:16 PM Post #7170345
| I don't use poisons of any kind and don't see any insects but every year the poor cordy has these damaged leaves ...perhaps someone can talk about both cold and sun hardy types.
I think if you post pictures of your successful ones ann or some tropic kid may be able to tell us the name.
I have some from last autumn from Ann and about half came through winter in reasonable condition (just starting to sprout) while the other ones have looked like they didn't survive ...I know it's possible they might shoot from under like the angels do so I don't write them off as yet. was scared I might lose them so they went under plant shelter into washed river sand and were watered in with seasol.The washed river sand was in a cut off 40 gallon drum almost 2ft tall ...so roots would have found their way down to the clay.
Pretty soon I expect the tops of the survivers to really leaf out so what would you do then give them a chop and strike the tops or move the whole plant out into their separate pots ...fertilizer? ...water etc.
I will name the survivers in the next few days but I recognise that one in your picture as one of them. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
11:10 PM Post #7170562
| That is snail damage and it is mainly the little tiny ones, the thin lines or skeletonising are caused by them and so are the holes as they aren't that big. The only way I have found to stop this is to drop snail pellets into the top of the cordy. The pellets need to get caught in the leaves otherwise they won't do any good. When I first started growing them I used to drop on the ground around the cordys but it didn't do anything. In all the years I have been growing cordys, I have only been able to find these little snails a couple of times.
Chrissy, Rubra is looking fantastic for this time of year especially for out your way. |
brical1
brisbane
Australia
October 14, 2009
11:16 PM Post #7170577
| I would love to see pics of your garden TS...sounds wonderful...I have a couple of cordies but haven't gone into them in a big way...we can get down to minus 7/8 for short durations during winter ...so black frosts are not unusual...I know a lot of my plants including frangipanis can take temps down to minus 3 without damage but any lower and it shows.. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
11:44 PM Post #7170725
| Hi Chrissy,
I use Multiguard Snail pellets as they are based on Iron Chelates, a fertiliser. I don't use poisons as I love having the lizards and frogs etc in the garden. I did try those containers that you put beer in once, didn't find any snails in the container but I did find drowned lizards so they went. I have heard of using Kitty Litter around the plants to stop snails and I'm sure someone would know of the other natural ways to control snails.
Out our way, I don't recommend any of the Cordyline fruticosa cvs for full sun, the only ones that cope with our heat are the New Zealand ones based on C. australis; thinking about it even the city and the coast does hit 40C these days. The orange ones and the purple ones need to be sheltered from the sun as they will burn easily, I grow mine in full shade but with good light. The reds and blacks can take more sun and I do grow these in morning sun; the majority are grown in filtered sun from the palms above. I foliar feed with Seasol and a liquid fertiliser at least once a month as there are a lot of plants under the palms here. You can also foliar spray with Potash in spring and autumn and that is something I keep forgetting to do.
My biggest disaster was planting clumping bamboo, as the bamboo grew I started to lose cordys as the bamboo sucked all the moisture out of the surrounding ground. About 4 years ago we removed the bamboo and since then I have had cordys I thought were dead start to shoot up again. Also found that when I have moved cordys and haven't been able to get all of the kordyle (rhizome like root) out of the ground then the cordy will eventually grow back again. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
11:44 PM Post #7170728
| I had some struck tops out in full sun this winter ...those I was rooting for sue and I was really surprised at the beautiful colour that position bought out in them ...they were mini ones my daughter in law saved from her workplace and had been laying around on a pile of stuff in full baking sun. they were a sorry sight indeed but quickly perked up once I planted them ...never very exciting though (my fault, full shade) but I don't know if they would take hot sun.In the winter sun they became rich in colour and were quite beautiful. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 14, 2009
11:52 PM Post #7170742
| I hasten to add winter sun right near the brickwork for reflected heat.
How about that ...tiny snails wow! ...I thought it was from heavy rain or wind, thanks for that tip.never would have thought that as we don't get adult snails thanks to the blue tongues, we do get the tiny black slugs ...that come out at night (watch out for them on the angel leaves) I go out with a torch after rain and there they are. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
12:05 AM Post #7170782
| Hi Brical1,
Where are you in Brisbane? I know that it can get very cold in some areas of Brisbane and other parts of Qld. We used to get a lot colder here with daily frosts and the ocassional black frost in winter, but Sydney has grown that much now that if keeps itself warmer with all the roofs, concrete and roads and very little open spaces.
I have found the cordys to be more cold tolerant in my garden than the frangis, but the cordys have been in the ground for years. I will post some more pics of the cordys in the garden.
Helen |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
12:31 AM Post #7170831
| sorry about the link darn it nothing works the same! better go figure that one out now.
I am sure ann can id some of your cordys for you. |
brical1
brisbane
Australia
October 15, 2009
12:40 AM Post #7170863
| I am inland from Brisbane...so less humidity and more temp extremes ...unfortunately it is the black frosts here that do the damage.. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
12:55 AM Post #7170893
| Where abouts in location to Ipswich? I know roughly where Ipswich is, I have friends who live there and another friend did live there and had a tropical garden with cordys. I am inland from the city and have the same conditions; less humidity and more extreme temps, Chrissy lives further out and much more extreme out her way. Here the temps range from, depending on the year, -4C to 46C. Knowing what I am growing here, people thought and some still do, that I am pretty mad or stupid for trying these plants here. The crotons stay in full leaf here all year round and they are touchy, some went through the really bad year when it was even colder, I remember that the birdbath water was competely frozen and it is not that far from the cordys and crotons. But I have a really good microclimate here now.
Helen |
WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia
October 15, 2009
01:02 AM Post #7170905
| Hi Helen, great to see this thread up and running! Thank you for all the advice and information you have given. My own experience of growing Cordyline is quite limited to the hardy species. We have C. rubra growing along the driveway in a very narrow space (400 mm), as a clump with espaliered Camellia japonica. A nice look. The vertical height is great and the contrast of foliage colour (dark green Camellia / beetroot red Cordyline) is a plus.
We have tried some of the more recent cultivars (usually gifts), but have found them a little slow.
Frost is not their friend! :(
Looking forward to learning more. Thanks again Helen.
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sammut
western sydney nsw
Australia
October 15, 2009
02:53 AM Post #7171041
| Hi I took pic of a cordyline 5 min.ago as you can see in the pic. the plant gets late afternoon sun sould I move the pot more into the shade thanks Elaine 
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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia
October 15, 2009
03:33 AM Post #7171061
| Slim and elegant... (unlike me :)
This lovely old plant was growing here, a remnant of the old garden.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
04:30 AM Post #7171076
| Hi Elaine,
That is one of the New Zealand cordys and the majority of those ones can take full sun. I do have a light one similar to yours in the garden, but I put mine in morning sun as I did not want to take the risk with it. If you like it there, you could watch it carefully when the hot weather comes and when the sun moves to see if it starts to burn. Didn't we have a day in the high 30s already this spring or was that summer before we went back to winter down here? I'm sure we did and it came through that OK.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
04:42 AM Post #7171088
| Hi Elaine,
That is one of the New Zealand cordys and the majority of those ones can take full sun. I do have a light one similar to yours in the garden, but I put mine in morning sun as I did not want to take the risk with it. If you like it there, you could watch it carefully when the hot weather comes and when the sun moves to see if it starts to burn. Didn't we have a day in the high 30s already this spring or was that summer before we went back to winter down here? I'm sure we did and it came through that OK. I love your Balinese statues, especially the lady kneeling. I will be seeing a lot of Balinese statues in 31/2 weeks.
Wayne you have one of our native cordys there and it looks like Cordyline stricta. |
sammut
western sydney nsw
Australia
October 15, 2009
05:25 AM Post #7171101
| Thanks Iam still learning as I go along love features they fill the bare spots last summer I had sails over every thing dont want to but them up again so dont know whate will take the full sun. -----Elaine. |
77sunset
Merino
Australia
October 15, 2009
04:53 PM Post #7172850
| Hello everyone. I do envy you all with some of those tropicals. I love cordylines and foolishly bought some small plants a few years ago. I have one left in a pot in the greenhouse. I struggles but is growing.
I just went out in the rain to get this photo of what I have always assumed was a cordyline. I found a piece at the tip so stuck it in the ground and this is what it looks like after 5 years. It had a stem of pretty, small blue flowers coming out of the top of a stem, last year I broke a bit off and stuck in the ground around the other side of the house where it gets lots of sun and it is growing well but slowly due to no watering. This large one gets no water but the rain. I also have a piece growing in a pot in the greenhouse, but not growing as well . I think this particular plant likes to be outside .
This large one is out where it only gets some morning sun because of the large trees but seems to like it there. Any clues as to what sort it is. ? I may cut more off and plant around. Not the brilliant colors of some but at least it's hardy to the cold.
Jean.
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sammut
western sydney nsw
Australia
October 15, 2009
06:13 PM Post #7173108
| Hi Jean
I think I have the same dont know the name I have grown it from a cutting the mother plant if I remember right looked like yours here is a photo of my baby plant . Elaine
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 15, 2009
08:10 PM Post #7173565
| Here is one my poor little minis ...struck pretty easily in washed river sand 
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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:01 AM Post #7174482
| >Wayne you have one of our native cordys there and it looks like Cordyline stricta.<
Thanks Helen, yes. An old favourite in Victorian, "Federation" come '20's gardens.
I love it for it's height and elegant canes, then those blooms that remind me of our Light Horseman's plumes in the slouch hat. Often I see it with the Dollar Spot tree fern, Cyathea cooperii, old Rhodos and in our case, old Camellia japonica cvs. A wonderful addition to any garden new or old.
Jean, you might be able to grow this one down your way. Let me send you a little offset. :)
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:08 AM Post #7174497
| Here's a few of mine. I think this one is Indian Blanket but am unsure. The new growth is hot pink in winter. Ann 
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77sunset
Merino
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:08 AM Post #7174498
| Thank you Wayne. I would love to try it. I know the the more brightly colored ones won't like it here but even the plainer ones have a lovely sculptural effect. The flower on mine was quite pretty even if it was way up the top.
Jean. |
77sunset
Merino
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:09 AM Post #7174500
| One word Ann.. Wow... |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:13 AM Post #7174507
| I love New Guinea. It's an oldy but a goodie. Ann 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:14 AM Post #7174511
| Tartan is very popular at the moment in FNQ. Ann 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:19 AM Post #7174523
| Thanks Jean:) They do very well up here and are so easy to grow. I love Oahua Rainbow but it's a bit slow growing. Ann 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:23 AM Post #7174528
| Disco is a new one from Robin Ganley. 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
01:27 AM Post #7174536
| I've go a few photos I haven't unloaded but for now I'll leave you with a photo of New Guinea Fan. I love them so much I've put about 15 of them in around my house in the last few months lol. Ann 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 16, 2009
03:49 AM Post #7174641
| Hi,
I haven't been able to get onto the internet all day and have only just managed to now.
Jean,
When I started the tropical garden here, I really couldn't wait for the palms to grow tall enough to provide enough shade. So each summer and winter I would put up shadecloth to protect the plants.
Ann, I didn't know that you had Tartan and New Guinea Fan up there, wonder what other little treasures you have. Tartan has been around for years now but I don't think it was readily available, it was imported from Thailand. MMmm, think I am going to sort out another order soon.
O'ahu Rainbow is slow and it is beautiful and quite different with its markings. I noticed yesterday that mine has been attacked by the small snails. It took me a couple of attempts at growing this one in a few different spots to get one going and I was very determined to grow it. Thank you Chrissy for reminding me to go out and check my cordys. Seem to have been busy with another plant.
The flowers on cordys are quite pretty but with the Hawaiian ones, if you leave the flowers on to develop then the new leaves will be permanently smaller. So to keep all of those large beautifully coloured leaves then the flowers need to be taken off long before they develop. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 16, 2009
05:25 AM Post #7174682
| Hello Anne, haven't heard from you in ages!
Hello Tropicalsydney, nice to hear a new voice? Or read a new face? Hell, nice to meet you!
Chrissy, the little cordy darlings are doing well. Re the snail damage, I get it on the tropical cannas also, and like TS, I use the iron chellate pellets and try to get them in the top of the plants.
Its too dark for pics, but I have a nice cordy that apparently need a bit of protection, and as I haven't got the canopy quite ready yet, it will live in the fernery for at least another year, then I'll plant it out with Chrissys darlings.
I have 'Kiwi' and it is easy and quick to grow, and of course I have rubra everywhere, as i am quite partial to that colour throughout the garden.
The crotons are also a favourite, and I have found them a little bit finicky to strike, with no rhyme or reason for success or failure, but I have been planting them out and find they do well if fertilised more often than the other garden plants.
Anyway, I'll leave you with a pic of the fruticosa rubras, they go well in marning to midday sun, and look greta with the succulents! Surprisingly
Sue
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scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
October 16, 2009
06:49 AM Post #7174743
| hi Ann,
I am pretty sure your plant is Waihee Rainbow. A gorgeous cultivar.
I am so thrilled that Helen has got a cordy forum up and running. They are still my ultimate plant. Great survivors.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 16, 2009
08:41 AM Post #7174925
| I stayed in Bundy a few years ago and got to see some really good cordys up there. It is good to see you here.
Chrissie, the cordys behave so differently colourwise down here than they do in Cairns, but there is a bonus, we get very intense winter colour down here because of the cold.
The photo is of a few of the cordys in my garden along with a brugmansia - another favourite on our forum.
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WayneCarter
NW Sydney NSW
Australia
October 16, 2009
03:19 PM Post #7176326
| Helen, what a wonderful display! What is that tall "Zig Zag" plant in the front?
Thanks for all your advice. Especially the tip on pruning out flowers on the big leaf cvs. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 16, 2009
05:02 PM Post #7176688
| Hi Carolyn, I've missed your cordylines on Ebay! The first one I posted, could it be War Paint? It's definitely not Waihee Rainbow (another favorite) Ann
ps all my New Guinea Fan babies are getting bigger and showing lots of variation.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 16, 2009
05:08 PM Post #7176721
| Hi Wayne,
That is Alcantarea extensa and even though all the flowers have gone I still haven't cut it. Looking at the photo now, I don't think I had the camera straight as the plinth looks like it is ready to fall over. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
12:35 AM Post #7178430
| Beautiful pictures! Beautiful plants.
Oh dear my Rubra flowered for the first time this year and I thought the long sprays of tiny blooms were very pretty so I just enjoyed them ...will that really mean no more large leaves?
What happens if you chop off the top (to root of course) will the plant revert to large leaves or will they all be smaller now?
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
04:11 AM Post #7178612
| The leaves will come back to full size, its mainly the ones that develop while it is flowering. You can give the cordy some fertiliser but not as much as you would for the brugmansias. |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
October 17, 2009
05:47 AM Post #7178652
| Hi Ann,
Yes I think you are right, the first photo you put on is probably War Paint, as I told Helen, I believed it was Waihee Rainbow (ours has shown that amount of pink flushing a couple of season) the wavy edge to some of the leaves fooled me.
Presently we have Tropic Flame (pictured) which looks very like War Paint at this stage but the plants we saw in Hawaii had a much brighter coloured variegation. I guess it is the growing conditions, our plants are still only young.
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 17, 2009
06:30 AM Post #7178677
| It's my fault. Indian Blanket, Navaho, War Paint. I mixed up my Native American inspired cords.
That's very nice! What other new Hawaiian stuff is lurking around Bundy? Ann
ps here's Thelma. She was chopped into little bits today.
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 17, 2009
06:32 AM Post #7178678
| Festival Queen faces the Felcos tommorrow. Ann 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
07:38 AM Post #7178719
| Ann you are teasing me with these cordys that I don't have. LOL Do you have the CD Cordylines A - Z 2008, very helpful if you know the names and want to put them together with the cordy. The picture might not fully show the cordy colouring up your way but the description will help. I checked out both Waihee Rainbow and Warpaint. Maybe I should follow my advice and check out the ones missing their names with the list I know I should have against the CD, when they come into their winter colour.
Carolyn, your Tropic Flame has grown so much since July, mine has only recently gone into the ground but it is showing some brilliant colour down here already. All my new ones from Nambour are surrounding the new brugmansias. Think I am going to have to form a well around the brugs so that I can water them in winter without giving the cordys wet feet in winter.
Chrissy I was worried about you growing the cordys under your brugs, then I realised that I had done the same thing. Just have to be careful with the water as cordys and other tropical treasures really don't like wet feet in winter especially out our way and in the clay soil. Learnt that the hard way. Yet, my only brug back then didn't seem to mind no water last winter.
When I wrestle my laptop back from my younger teenage grandson I will post some more photos as they are all stored on the laptop. I will see what I have of the cordys in the garden. 
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77sunset
Merino
Australia
October 17, 2009
04:10 PM Post #7179930
| I can give up envying all the colored cordys now . I was delving among plants in the fern house yesterday and found a plant I had put at the back and thought no more of. It was in a lot I bought as very cheap orphans from Kmart last year. There were a few other cordys that died and this poor thing was put aside with some flax. Looked like them anyway. I saw a tall flower stem sticking up so pulled the plant out in the open. It has grown and I found the tag . It's a cordyline "Red Fountain" Now I have a pretty one. It must like the ferns. I will take a photo later.
Jean. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 17, 2009
05:28 PM Post #7180158
| I mix up brugs and cords together a bit. They seem to not mind. Here's an old photo of the front of out house. We've extended the bed since then and added more cords. Ann
ps I do have Carolyn's CD, it is a great reference.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
07:38 PM Post #7180508
| Hi Ann,
It is just the clay soil combined with the colder winter temps where we are that is the hassle. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 17, 2009
08:00 PM Post #7180607
| Helen, Have you tried building up your beds and adding gypsum? While it doesn't get as cold for as long as you may, we have very heavy clay soil and extremely wet conditions. Raised beds amended with plenty of organic matter and a yearly top dressing with gypsum help our plants cope better. Ann
Here's Hawaiian Rooster Tail. Gorgeous colors but much slower than Peter Buck or Lillinoe.
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
08:45 PM Post #7180734
| I think the soil in a built up bed keeps warmer in winter too.
Here I put a lot of manure and lucerne hay in the bottom of the bed (like a mini no dig garden) then top it up with washed river sand. I find this to be pretty successful, I think the worms work the clay underneath and turn it into a wonderful soil.
The difference in a built up garden compared to planting into the clay is huge ...
The pictures are stunning ...I see some little green shoots coming out now on the "sticks" I thought were dead.
Guess I will need to learn not to be afraid of them ...it worked with the brugs. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 17, 2009
09:18 PM Post #7180825
| Too right Chrissy. i find them really easy to strike at almost any time of the year. My only problem is i dont see too many of the newer varieties around to get cuttings from.My soil is terrible and is built up with fallen leaves, sugar cane mulch and the odd dose of manure pellets. The cordys only look bad when the leaves get tatty from wind, falling gum branches and snails. I should probably try some in a nicer spot!
Anne, your planting in front of the house looks gorgeous. I guess I should go to your site for some cuttings?
This is the one I picked up from the markets, that the man said should be grown in shade. It suffered really badly from aphids last summer, but seesm to have recovered now. It looks as though it could be a fussy one, and in need of ideal conditions? maybe I'll put it in the brom house for daily attention.
Does anyone have an ID?
Tropicalsydney, your garden looks lovely too, and i am probably more interested in your broms now! he he
Sue
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 17, 2009
09:50 PM Post #7180927
| That's nice sue ...looks like one ann has ...
Look though here
http://www.cordyline.org/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=35... |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 18, 2009
05:16 PM Post #7183205
| Here are my Cordyline sticks, the picture does not show much but the eye sees quite a few little green sprouts popping out after all it is still quite cool in the early mornings, I can hardly wait to see the leaves, how long should I wait until potting them up? and would it be better to just chop off the tops and strike them ? or dig out the individual plants? ...what would you do if they were yours. 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 18, 2009
06:04 PM Post #7183336
| Chrissy, I'm not an expert but I would wait for leaves to appear and then pot them or plant the individually. But you can start feeding them now as they will have small roots. Try some fish emulsion and seaweed solution mixed to pump them along.
Sue, Yours looks like Willi's Gold which is a really great one when grown well. We don't sell cutting just rooted plants. All the tops I sent to Chrissy were part of a trade. They'll be alot slower but in the end she'll have quite a bit of propagation material and hopefully know what's what as they were all labeled lol.
We have some great breeders in our area but suprisingly it's only really at the big plant shows that you can get their newer stuff. Because alot of cords aren't always colored up when small most people think "Oh I've got that one" Also the difference between well watered, fed and mulched cords in the right amount of light and cords grown hard can be amazing.
You should take a look at the way cords and broms are mixed in alot of SE qld gardens. The new website of the International Cordyline Society has a really good members garden section http://www.cordyline.org/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=35...
Broms and cords work very well together.
Ann
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 18, 2009
06:19 PM Post #7183393
| Thanks Ann ...I thought that might be the way to go, I have been giving them weak seasol but didn't want them to get too "excited" in case we got a big drop in temperature.
So if the little green sprouts are coming out that means there are roots?
I know some cuttings of things store energy and can sprout before there are roots ...would these be coming from rooted pieces? or can you only tell by the leaves growing out?
I'm tempted to give a gentle tug to see but don't want to hurt them.
Some of the pieces had leaves grow out before it got really cold so they would have had roots right? |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
October 18, 2009
07:05 PM Post #7183575
| Chrissy, They should definitely have small roots as you got those months ago. But don't pull them or disturb the roots, as temting as it might be :) Ann
Anja
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 19, 2009
04:27 AM Post #7185160
| Hi Sue.
Willis Gold is a bit temperamental down here but you should have it a lot easier up at Coffs. It does need a high light spot and doesn't go as well in the sun down here. Sad to say to a brom lover but most of those Neos are not there anymore.
Yes, we do have raised garden beds, although to look at the garden you wouldn't realise it. As we had a sloping block we were able to build retaining walls, the higher level was raised well above the existing soil level and the lower sections were raised well above the existing soil levels and then leveled. Even with all of this, too much water in winter can still kill some of the more tender ones.
Chrissy, the cordyline canes are pretty much like the brugmansia canes, they won't get leaves until there are some roots there. The canes can also be put into water to grow roots the same as the brugmansias. I have some sitting in a bucket on the front veranda now.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 19, 2009
04:49 AM Post #7185166
| From this angle Willis Gold can just been seen through the frangipanni leaves. 
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 19, 2009
05:50 AM Post #7185202
| Thanks so much for those links! Who knew there were so many Cordy's? Yes, 'Willi's Gold' certainly looks like mine, droopy leaves and all! Bright light you say? I think I might build it a bed of really good soil, somewhere protected.
Chrissy, what a lot of sticks you have! he he.
Anne, do you sell rooted plants via post? I haven't been to your web site in awhile, and am a bit short on time tonight, but will still go and look. Whats the go with heliconias. The leaves look ratty, so is it ok to prune them back and hope they reshoot looking a bit fresher, or can those ratty leaved ones still produce a flower?
Sue |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 23, 2009
03:25 AM Post #7199648
| Sorry everyone, I have been very busy ...I promise to go and write down the the names of the "sticks" that are leafing out and showing little green bud thingys ...the leader of the pack is Maize, from memory Midnight Oil and Rooster Tail ...the rest I will need a pen and paper, when they are ready ...which can take a bit of sun ...or not?
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 24, 2009
05:19 PM Post #7204357
| Australian Roosters Tail 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 24, 2009
05:25 PM Post #7204381
| Cordylines come in a variety of leaf shapes and I should have mentioned that Australian Roosters Tail has a Kahili leaf.
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The photos is of Bangkok Rainbow
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 24, 2009
05:29 PM Post #7204388
| This one is Black Jack it comes from the Negra group of Cordyline fruticosa and these are tall, very strong growing cordys. 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
04:36 AM Post #7205973
| Hi everyone...
I'm in the Cordylie Society, I went to a meeting today and saw a couple of new cordylines...
I took some pics so here a few new ones to look at...
Gold Compacta (mini) very nice!!
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
04:42 AM Post #7205978
| This is another newie... Pineapple Parfait. 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
05:49 AM Post #7206000
| I have just been reading through some of the older posts... and have seen that you don't recommend cords in full sun positions. I can say from my experience, I have a lot growing in full sun in the western suburbs of Brisbane. I am working on a canopy but with many years still to wait... I couldn't wait that long to plant my cords.
I can say they have taken longer to establish and really take off but with saying that, they also had to deal with the drought as well. I found once they were established they cope very well. They did burn and fry to a crisp first off but once the new leaves emerged they are fine, I actully think they are tougher for it. I started planting my first cordylines about 3 years ago now and it was this year that I felt they were doing exceptionaly well. I think because they have had to do it hard it has taken them longer to establish... but now... I have the full pleasure of enjoying them.
Cordylines I can highly recommend in full sun from my experience are... Rooster's Tail, Big Red, Stiletto, Pink Diamond, Negra, Negras, China Boy, Schubertii, Compacta, Pele's Smoke, Cointreau, Bangkok Rainbow... that's all I can think of right now... I also have a few unnamed ones out there. Actually, I even have Pretty In Pink in full sun too and it looks fantastic which suprised me, I thought it would be more delicate. I'll post some pics of my front garden as it is the toughest part of my garden as it's always very dry, these were taken beginning of this year, looking even bigger and better now.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
06:45 AM Post #7206037
| front yard... 
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 25, 2009
04:10 PM Post #7207333
| What cordylines? All I can see is broms! he he. Thanks for the tips on the sunlovers CM. Its very hard to find any new varieties here in Coffs, but maybe I haven't been looking hard enough. Your gardens look fabulous.
Really good pics Helen! Australian roosters tail is a nice one, with the different leaf shape. Chrissy, your little darlings are doing well, although they had a little setback after a meeting with a snail. Minor damage that they will grow out of in no time. Sprinkled the iron chellate about and will have to get into a routine.
Sue |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
05:05 PM Post #7207457
| Lol... weed woman, they're there... and lotos of them, just they need to grow taller!! Thanks... I started gardening out the back first. We use to have a cottage garden till about 3 years ago. We have only just started in the front about 16 months ago. These were taken back in January... they are much taller now.
We have just done a bus trip not long ago and we went as far as Lismore... I can recomment The Seddling House Nursery, they had a good range there. Also a little further towards the Qld border at Pigabeen there is a wholesaler and they are really good... called Palm Park. If you speak with either Ian or Daryl I'm sure they would be able to help you out. It would probably be a couple of hours drive for you but well worth it. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
05:40 PM Post #7207548
| Hi Ann,
Here is a photo of the true Indian Blanket...
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
06:06 PM Post #7207626
| Here is a Willi's Gold grown in just about full sun... in Brisbane... 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 25, 2009
06:28 PM Post #7207697
| This is a very new one, there are a few in existance but there are only 3 people who own them...
This is Kiani.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 25, 2009
07:56 PM Post #7208008
| Sue the cordys are there, they are the ones with colour. LOL.
Seriously, Palm Park does have a good range there, Darryl helped me get my collection started all those years ago. I even planted the cordys from there in my garden in the middle of winter before I had my canopy cover. Surprisingly, it does get quite cold at Piggabeen in winter.
CordylineMad, it is always good to meet another ICS member. Morning Sunshine looks nothing like Indian Blanket, but people do get away with selling it under the name Indian Blanket. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 25, 2009
08:10 PM Post #7208066
| Ann wrote:
"We have some great breeders in our area but suprisingly it's only really at the big plant shows that you can get their newer stuff. Because alot of cords aren't always colored up when small most people think "Oh I've got that one"
Also the difference between well watered, fed and mulched cords in the right amount of light and cords grown hard can be amazing."
Ann,
It is so sad that it is so hard to get the newer cordys, even for those who do belong to the ICS. I do remember a time when I could get all the newest releases but that was long ago.
The difference in the cordys is phenomenal depending on how they are grown and it makes so much difference to the depth of their colouring.
Chrissy, how is your list of cordys going? |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 25, 2009
08:15 PM Post #7208082
| For those of you in SE Qld
The ICS has a Tropical Foliage Festival on soon if you want to chase up some more cordys.
14th November - 8am-4pm
15th November - 9am-3pm.
Cleveland Assembly Hall, Smith St, Cleveland.
I haven't been to a Tropical Foliage Festival in years not since they were held at Mt Cotton. This year we will be in Bali while it is on. So if anyone does go and buy some cordys, let us know what you bought. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 26, 2009
12:03 AM Post #7208825
| Ok here are the sticks that are starting to leaf back out for me (thanks ann).
Maize
H Flag
Willies Gold
Midnight Oil
Pink Malloy
Red Robin
Cameo
Red Sister
Malia
Rooster Tail
There are some with no id (they arrived like that ...as extras of the named ones I think)
Flag Dancer is the only one that has rotted off for certain (there may be another piece of that in there, I will have to wait) it's cold and wet so that does not help I suppose.
It may be my fault as I planted them under heavy shelter, because I thought the cold might kill them, all in all I am very chuffed to see them leafing out, I won't be as scared this next winter ...
Now to get through the summer 
cordylinemad ...nice plants!
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
01:19 AM Post #7208955
| Lol, thanks Helen... : ) That's right!! Yeah Darly does heaps for our society... he is a great bloke , Ian too, they grow some awesome plants and are very, very helpful. It's a shame about people using wrong names, I guess all we can do is try to educate people as best we can and hope they listen and take it on board... |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
01:30 AM Post #7208968
| Oh Ann, you need to stay more in touch then... we always have new releases... all the time. I am forever trying to track them down, but you will get see all of them in your magazine!! If there is anything you want let me know, give me a call. I did leave my details with you didn't I?
When I joined the society, it was good at first while Margaret was still around but once she left it started going down hill. Margaret was always introducing us to new things. For a year or more, we just saw the same old cordylines and it become really bouring, that is when I got involved. There is a really overwhelming buzz through the society now, people are excited and really inspired. We are hearing really good feedback all the time. We have a very solid team who are all on the same page, everyone is commited and we're all having a great time doing it, I think that is the most important. I know the members are more laid back in north Queensland so give me a buzz if I can help you with anything.
Oh that goes for anyone... : ) |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
01:32 AM Post #7208969
| Oh THANKS for the plug Helen!!!
Bali sounds like a good reason not to be there...
Kristy |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 26, 2009
05:03 AM Post #7209112
| Thank you Chrissy, it does help to know which ones you have; that in turn lets me know which ones you don't have. You are as nervous with the cordys as I am with the brugmansias.
Hi Kristy, Bali is a good reason not to be anywhere else. Although the cordy selection over there is very limited but it is good to see them in the landscapes. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
05:52 AM Post #7209143
| This is very true!! My mum went just a few months back, she shared her photos on our last slide night and she found plenty of cords... but it isn't anything like what we have here. Great for statues, temples ect. Renne Hundschidt gave her the contacts of his driver he uses over there so she got to get out of the tourist area, which she said was great. her carry on luggage ended up weighing a tonne!! Lol.
Do have a lovely time!! How long are you gone for? |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
05:56 AM Post #7209146
| Oh also Helen, you emailed me a few weeks back about the registration for our web site... that is now available. I tried to email you back but it bounced back to me for some reason. Go to the log in area down the bottom on the left side and there is a registration button there... click on that an floow the promps.
Kristy |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 26, 2009
06:43 AM Post #7209182
| Hi Kristy,
Did the registration earlier tonight. I have Dmailed you re which email address. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 26, 2009
03:47 PM Post #7210796
| Hi Helen,
Yes I just went in now and enabled you now... It is only a small community at the moment but it is growing every day. After spending some time here and I have been looking around I have decided to make a number of changes, so you will see it change over time... |
MyaC
Magnetic Island
Australia
(Zone 11)
October 26, 2009
11:45 PM Post #7212503
| Kristy just wondering if you could post the cordyline website address,I'd love to have a look...thanks
Mya |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 27, 2009
12:17 AM Post #7212577
| sure think Mya...
http://www.cordyline.org
if you have any q's feel free to ask... : ) |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 27, 2009
12:22 AM Post #7212587
| This is Rose Of Kulara... 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 27, 2009
08:06 AM Post #7212975
| Hi Mya. its great to see you here. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 27, 2009
04:41 PM Post #7214429
| Thankyou for a look at your wonderful site ...it answered some questions for me. Perhaps you could answer this.
I received some beaut cuttings last autumn from ann.
Some Sprouted some leaves and some didn't ...Spring now sees activity in these bare sticks and some have a few leaves already.
When should I start to lift and pot on these plants and will they transplant ok? ...would it be better to leave them growing and take off the tops to strike instead just in case? and if so how would you do it.
I previously have chopped off the tops of mini cordys and found each one struck easily in pure washed river sand ...any difference?
The sticks are growing in washed river sand in a temp (chopped 40 gallon drum) on top of heavy clay. I have been giving them seasol every now and then because it's still cool. A couple of weeks ago I gave them some organic life pellets.
What now?
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 27, 2009
06:59 PM Post #7214825
| chrissy, first thing how deep are they siiting in the drum? You don't want them too low as they need to be getting good light. I would leave them for a bit yet, let them grow a few leaves and get well established. Just make sure it is done throught the warmer weather, you don't want to disturb them too much when it's cold.
You could have actully cut the cane into more pieces as they are quite long, you only need them to be 3-4 inches (10cm ) long, that is plenty of lenght, they can be done with a lot less. Another way is to lay them down and bury the cane half way down, you get multiple strikes that way and can end up with many more plants. The sand mix you have them in should be ok, I have seen them grow in many things. Just keep in mind sand drains really well so make sure they are always moist, don't let them dry out.
No there are no real differences with cane or tops, if you do tops pull most of the leaves off leaving the about 5 leaves on top. This way it's putting all its energy into developing roots rather than try to keep all the leaves alive that will end up browning off and dying anyway.
Just let them grow for a while, now is a really good time of the year, Autumn probably wasn't the best time to purchase your cane, especially living in Sydney as they don't do much through Winter, you will find they will take off now. Once your night time temps are above 16degrees is the best time which is around Sept - Oct to about March. Doing them as early as you did put them at risk of rotting so you have done well to get them throught the Winter.
I hope this helps... if there is anything else, please feel free to ask. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 27, 2009
07:41 PM Post #7214982
| Thanks very much |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 27, 2009
07:50 PM Post #7215020
| You're welcome chrissy... |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 28, 2009
03:59 AM Post #7216025
| Chrissy you got cuttings down from Ann in Cairns in autumn, you managed to grow these cuttings into plants during autumn and winter. Your plants would not be sprouting leaves if they didn't have any roots. You have done incredibly well, just think about the temperature change alone that your cuttings went through. I think that from reading about your brugmansias that you will instinctively know what to do.
The majority of mine here are really starting to grow really well and they have good colour in them. The ones in my garden which are all either established or planted from 6" pots are now being fertilised every two weeks with Seasol and Powerfeed. Your plants would have to have a weaker solution than mine in the garden. And please show us progression photos of your small cordys. If your cordys have a good root system on them, which you will be able to tell by the foliage growth, then I would see about transplanting them now so that they will have a chance to get established in your garden. before our heat really starts. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 28, 2009
05:17 AM Post #7216044
| brical1, you mentioned that you have a couple of cordys do you have any photos or know which ones they are?
Jean, did you take that photo of C Red Fountain yet?
Elaine, that photo of the cordy in the terracotta pot; your cordy is looking very healthy.
Wayne, can you take some photos of the more recent cvs for us? |
MyaC
Magnetic Island
Australia
(Zone 11)
October 28, 2009
09:37 PM Post #7218718
| Kristy great site,love all the members gardens,some are absolutely stunning,like living in a resort...I spent ages browsing their gardens...thanks again |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 28, 2009
09:39 PM Post #7218728
| welcome Mya, I have to heap upload onto there too, I'll let you know once I have. Yes there are some stunning gardens. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 28, 2009
10:19 PM Post #7218853
| I agree very beautiful indeed, thanks for the tour
Yes I will post pics as the cordys grow ...It's lovely to see other ideas. |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
06:13 PM Post #7221512
| More new shoots on the unamed extras plus one named one call Kiwi is popping out the little green shoots ...I have chopped back some of the sheltering foliage above the plants to give them more light ...I think I will feed them a little more now and think about chopping heads off in about another month ...that way I will have a back up if the heads fail to take.
Thankyou for the advice and I will show pics as more happens. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
06:53 PM Post #7221651
| Just a few cordys 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
06:57 PM Post #7221667
| New spring growth.
This one is C.T.C Pink also known as Amanda's Blush and also known as Pink Champion. 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:02 PM Post #7221689
| New spring growth on Miss Andrea.
This one is also known as C.T.C Silver
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:08 PM Post #7221735
| This one is a very young Carmen.
It is a mutation or sport from Kiwi.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:18 PM Post #7221777
| This one is a young Cameo. 
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:25 PM Post #7221808
| This one was bought as Aussie Delight.
Its correct name is Gold Strip. It is also sold as Red Strip and Rainbow Red.
This plant came down from Cairns to Nambour in early July and then it came down to my garden and straight into the cold and frosts.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:31 PM Post #7221826
| This one is Aussie Sunset.
I bought this one at the same time as Aussie Delight and from the same nursery.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:33 PM Post #7221834
| This one is Ruby.
I bought this one at the same time as Aussie Delight & Aussie Sunset and from the same nursery.
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chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:36 PM Post #7221841
| I recognise Miss Andrea or very similar as one of the unamed pieces growing out shoots ...thankyou.
Very pretty pictures. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:37 PM Post #7221852
| Oops. forgot.
The above photos were taken this morning. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:42 PM Post #7221872
| This one is Pink Ribbon.
An older photo of one of my older cordys.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:47 PM Post #7221892
| This one is Kaua'i Beauty.
This is an older photo of Kaua'i Beauty when it was still a young plant.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 29, 2009
07:53 PM Post #7221920
| This one was bought as Picasso, its correct name is Jenny Wren.
An older photo of one of my older cordys.
It does get very confusing when the cordy names are changed. But then again, with a new name it would get some cordy collectors thinking "I don't have that one" and they would snap it up. 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
12:21 AM Post #7222827
| Hi Helen...
Your CTC Pink there is Pink Champion, I'm unsure by how you wrote it if you realise that Amanda's Blush is different. I'll post an Amanda's Blush at the bottom just in case. Amand's Blush is a mini as Pink Champion is a big juno leaf. I have never heard of Rainbow Red called Aussie Delight before, another one to add to the list and your Aussie Delight looks like Waihee Rainbow. How may cordy's are in that pic as there is one leaf in there that looks like Early Morning Sunshine. I have not heard of Aussie Delight before...
Thats something the ICS wants to do in stopping people re-naming them... we want to find out their original names and only use them becasue as you said it just way too confusing!! And there is no need for it.
Ok here is Amanda's Blush...
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
12:35 AM Post #7222841
| Also Helen, do you have any ideas on what CTC stands for in CTC...? |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
02:41 AM Post #7222948
| This is Chameleon... Peter Buck seedling... it's a stunner!! 
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
02:45 AM Post #7222952
| This one of my favs... Bangkok Rainbow, a big landscaper. 
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scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
October 30, 2009
03:08 AM Post #7222960
| I Don't know where the name Pink Champion came from, though I have seen CTC Pink sold under that name. I suspect the name Pink Champion may have been coined by a tissue culture company either in Australia or overseas. Unfortunately as we know only too well that does happen. We had a specimen of this plant for a couple of years before Pink Champion appeared
There is a series of CTC cordylines - CTC Pink, CTC Red, CTC Purple (which was released in Australia as Amanda's Blush , it is a miniature), CTC Silver (released in the US and Australia as Miss Andrea). They were developed in Sri Lanka by the Ceylon Tobacco Company (a tissure culture company). There is also a plain red one which appears as a sport. It has been called both CTC Chocolate and Chocolate Queen.
The name Aussie Delight has been applied to another member of this group which first came to Australia as Gold Strip or Red Strip and later sold here as Rainbow Red (I am not sure if that name was coined overseas or just in Australia). From the information I have been able to find out Gold Strip appears as a sport from other members of the group, this would account for it being given a different name when it appears in different countries. There is a very good chance that all of them were sports during tissure culture ( I have heard second-hand - though fairly reliably, that they were developed from a plant called Mahatma (which looks very similiar to & may just be a slightly differnt clone of Warpaint).
Now that I have bored everyone to death I will just mention that all these plants are featured on the CD-rom Cordylines A-Z the second version of which features 880 varieties. All known 'aliases' and 'also known as' are cross- referenced to what I believe is the correct name.
I have included a photo of a cordyline we bred callled 'IT' which is now being released by good friends. The first plant to made available for sale is presently on ebay
Happy cordyline growing.
Scruff
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 30, 2009
04:23 AM Post #7223006
| Amandas Blush is a mini.
I have been growing Waihee Rainbow for many years and Aussie Delight has completely different colouring to Waihee Rainbow.
There are 5 cordys in the photo and Early Morning Diamond isn't in that part of the garden. EMD has the most unusual gold colouring in its leaves.
If you look at the photo of Bangkok Rainbow in post 381 growing in Sydney in shady conditions and then look at the photo of Bangkok Rainbow in post 952 growing in Brisbane in sun - you will see the difference in the colour in both of these plants. Bangkok Rainbow does have yellow in the leaves. It really is amazing, how much difference there can be in the same plant depending on the conditions it is in. |
MyaC
Magnetic Island
Australia
(Zone 11)
October 30, 2009
06:38 AM Post #7223106
| Scruff saw IT on ebay the other day and admired the colouring,beautiful orange,or is that a trick of the light? |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
08:49 AM Post #7223300
| Hello Scruff,
I think Pink Champion may have been named by Sam Archer, as he is the only one I know who has done so much work with it. When talking to him just the other week he said he gives them a marketable name other then CTC... which ever, which I can understand him doing.
Is it this tabacco company's name that you think CTC stands for?? What does a tabacco company want with cordy's?? Thats a little odd. Hmmm... I heard and can't remember where now that CTC meant Cultivar Tissue Company. Is this not right? It did make sense but I never knew.
Yes I have just recently seen a Mahatma and was also told the same thing... although I'll have to check as I thought I was also told that Miss Andrea came this green looking cord. I'll picture it here and see if you know what it is. It seems a very complicated family of cords. I am currently trying to get my head around the Compacta family, that one's not much better.
I love the look of IT, I too also saw it listed on ebay. I missed out on some the other week on ebay, I was busy with friends, now I'm spewin'.
Ok here is this green one I was talking about...
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 30, 2009
09:54 AM Post #7223453
| Mya,
I saw IT when I was up in Bundy a few years ago staying with Scruff. It really is that colour and it is that gorgeous. There are some really nice oranges around but none are quite like IT. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 30, 2009
04:30 PM Post #7224507
| Hi Helen, It was Morning Sunshine I meat, sorry but it was in your Aussie Delight pic I was refering to. It is amazing how different the 2 Bangkok Rainbows are... Yours to me almost looks like Subaru, I know it isn't as I have been told I would have trouble growing it here in Brisbane, but that is what it reminds me of. Incredible!!
Here is a pic of Subaru... I wish I could grow it well down here!! : ( I like it!
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 30, 2009
07:37 PM Post #7225129
| Hi All,
I had a delivery down from Ann this week and I going out into the garden to plant the cordys and other goodies that have arrived. One thing about cordys, there is always room for more in my garden. Really need to but the tops of close to 100 of them but then I won't get to enjoy their leaves for quite a while so I will get the pruning knife out and give them a nick in the cane closer to ground level to force them into growing a new cane lower down. |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
October 30, 2009
10:22 PM Post #7225742
| Hi Kristy,
The Tissue Culture company is a section of Ceylon Tobacco Company. Thus the initials CTC in front of the plants name. No doubt they have expanded into other things besides Tobacco as Tobacco companies have taken a big hit over the last decade or so.
Mya
It is that colouring when at its best. Everyone who sees it loves it. Strangely it has its best colour during the growing season (During winter it may drop colour). We had it out if full sun at one stage and it was even more orange. It does have to have very good light to perform to its best. I have also seen it looking spectacular under beige shadecloth.
Hi Helen, It is great to see you adding more cordylines to your garden again. You just have so much knowledge to pass on to newer collectors. I have added a photo of another of our home bred cordies - Karen. It is a beautifully coloured, compact plant. We are very happy with it
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 31, 2009
12:43 AM Post #7226182
| Interesting you say that Helen, I was just wodering the other day if giving them a knick would make them do that. Good to know. I have a few I would want to do that to. I had someone tell me the wood would probably just heal. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 31, 2009
12:45 AM Post #7226187
| Hi Scruff,
Well I'll be buggered hey!! Who would think... Do you know if they have done more than just cordy's? I'm just thinking why would they choose cordylines to do of all things, out of all the possabilities. Not that I'm knocking it though, keep them coming!! All the better for us. : ) |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 31, 2009
01:07 AM Post #7226250
| Can't remember who told me that. Could probably aerial layer them as well, then when the top comes off it has plenty of roots. One way to get a lot more stems without losing out on the leaves.
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 31, 2009
02:24 AM Post #7226407
| Here is a pic of Subaru... I wish I could grow it well down here!! : ( I like it!
Kristy, you should try Ua Pou, down here it looks very much like Subaru and it is a very strong grower. Re Aussie Delight - you should have a look at the true Morning Sunshine. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 31, 2009
04:43 AM Post #7226531
| Yeah I do have Ua Pou, it's just not as dramatic at Subaru is...
Good idea with aerial roots... have you ever done that? |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 31, 2009
04:58 AM Post #7226539
| I'm enjoying the discussions you guys are having, despite being ignorant of all the varieties out there, and you lot are to blame for the sudden urge to plant out all the cordies! I spent wednesday afternoon making 'cordyline walk'. he he
I tried to ID this one using the cordyline link posted back up the thread, but haven't found it. Can anyone tell what it might be? I really like the yellows
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 31, 2009
04:59 AM Post #7226540
| Also this one, a mini, with chocolate brown leaves and a cream/green margin.
lower leaves-chocolate brown
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
October 31, 2009
05:00 AM Post #7226541
| And the top leaves with cream and lime/green
Sue
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 31, 2009
05:17 AM Post #7226557
| no, I haven't but it is an interesting concept. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
October 31, 2009
05:55 AM Post #7226582
| Hi Sue,
I would love to see some photos of your cordy walk. What can I say, cordys are addictive. LOL
Your first one looks like Early Morning Diamond with the intensity of colour that I get down here. The yellow changes into a real gold colour in the right light. I have tried to get that colour in a photo, haven't had any luck so far. |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
October 31, 2009
06:03 AM Post #7226592
| Hi Kristy,
The infomation I have on CTC foliage (owned by Ceylon Tobacco Company) just mentions exotic plants, foliage, cut flowers and tissue culture so most likely they tissue all sorts of plants, which are suitable for the foliage and cut flower trade, which have probably found their way into our gardens. Hope they keep creating new varieties for cordyline fanatics.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 31, 2009
03:58 PM Post #7227833
| Hi Scruff,
Yeah I agree... The more the merrier!! Keep them coming : ) Although these tissue culture things can be a bit precious sometimes , my daughter (only 2) knocked the top off my Pink Champion, it was struggling anyway, we had moved it around a few times already trying to find the right spot for it. Anyway, my husband was devistated as it was just starting to look again, he planted the top back in the ground in another spot, I told him that it would never grow as it was still very cool at night. Well he proved me wrong and then it sported... it turned into this pink and white variegated plant, it was very pretty till Miss 2 decided she liked it too and picked it like it was a flower... it then died
: ( If it has happen once I am sure in due time it will happen again.
Moral of the story is I now have no Pink Champion or sport and I don''t know if I'll get another... we'll see!
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
October 31, 2009
04:04 PM Post #7227858
| Helen if you do give it a go, please let us know how it goes...
Weed woman... with the second cordy you're asking about is it possible to get an all over pic as it is difficult to see what it is that close. Your Early Morning Diamond has great colour... thats where Kiani came from that was posted about half way up, it has real nice intense colour but with a blood red/burgubdy speckle, sometimes a stripe through the leaf. I can't wait for this to be made more readily available to the public. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 01, 2009
05:21 AM Post #7229332
| Thanks for that ID Helen. I will post a pic of Cordy walk and the other unnamed cordy, maybe tomorrow if I remember. Yes, thanks for another addiction. As if Bromeliads wasn't enough! I picked up that Early morning diamond and Waihee rainbow at Bunnings last week. Early Morning Diamond (if thats what it is) was the only one of its colour there and of course, the only unamed one! I was surprised to see something so nice there. i guess i haven't been looking hard enough
I like the pic you posted scruff. Please include names.
CM, you must've been upset about your plant being tip pruned twice! I will scroll back up to see Kiani. Its going to take awhile for me to become familiar withthe different cultivars, especially not having seen them in real life.
Sue |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 01, 2009
06:55 AM Post #7229405
| Hi Sue,
It is definitely Early Morning Diamond, I do have this one.
Here are some links from Google showing Early Morning Diamond.
These ones show EMD in its full colour
http://www.itfgs.org/htm/cordyline.htm
http://www.cordylines.com.au/pages/Cordyline Early Morning D...
Clayton has it on his website as well
http://www.utopialandscapedesign.com.au/landscaping_ideas/ga...
Check them out
Helen
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 01, 2009
06:58 AM Post #7229407
| Sue,
If in doubt 'Google' it. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 01, 2009
04:14 PM Post #7230811
| All those links have the same picture...
Did you mean Clayton York... because this is not him... this is a fella called Aaron who lives hear me. Alright looking web site though!!
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 02, 2009
05:13 AM Post #7232738
| Thanks Helen, that first link had some good info in it for growing them. I have planted my cordy walk along side some gums, so although I dug great big holes and used compost and soil activator, I will have to keep the water up to them through summer.
I will be stoked if my EMD gets the colours in that one! Yes, I usually do google everything, just keep running out of time!
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Sue |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 03, 2009
03:36 AM Post #7236399
| Does anyone know what this is?? 
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 03, 2009
04:12 AM Post #7236413
| I reckon its not a bromeliad! he he.
This is the pic of the entire plant whose ID I asked for previously.
I can't show you Cordy walk yet, becuase it needs to grow a bit. Maybe toward the end of Autumn.
Sue
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hel
Alstonville
Australia
November 03, 2009
08:33 PM Post #7238826
| Hi Guy's, no offence anyone but my Mum used to call the Cordyline the kanaka plant. We lived in New Guinea, I guess they were somewhat like a weed.
Ebor Falls (just out of Armidale)
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 04, 2009
02:01 AM Post #7239707
| Hi Sue,
I do know that plant, my head has gone blank on that one though. Looking forward to autumn photos.
Hi Hel,
They probably would be a weed up in New Guinea. Interesting to know the New Guinea name for the cordys. |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 09, 2009
05:54 PM Post #7257158
| Hi Weed woman... did you say where you got that plant from. That is an interesting little plant there. I am sending it to someone I know who may know what it is. I'm wondering if it is something called Cream Compacta. I have never seen one but was described to me as you have described it, so I will let you know once I have found out. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 10, 2009
01:19 AM Post #7258879
| Hi CM. I bought 2 from a local palm nursery that was closing down. They were in 200mm pots which seemed overkill at the time, but it meant I didn't have to plant them straight away.
Heres a cordy I saw in Brisbane on the weekend. I was hoping to get a cutting, but wasn't sure how to ask. Next time.
Sue
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 11, 2009
04:48 AM Post #7262570
| Hi weed woman, thats the one we were talking about earlier int he forum. It's Rainbow Red or it's also called Gold Strip. you were in Brisbane on the wrong weekend. This weekend is The Tropical Foliage Festival.
If anyone is interested check out
http://www.cordyline.org
for the details.
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 12, 2009
03:38 AM Post #7266141
| that would be right! I went to Darwin and tried to tie in the visit with there tropical festival and they had cancelled it! It was still advertised in the magazines though. Luckily the gardens at Government house were open or I would have been mighty peed off!
Nevermind, I had a great weekend last week, and couldn't do it twice in a row. It seems to take me ages to get over a bit of a drive.
I bought another couple of cordys...! Cointreau (although printed plastic label says contreau) and New Guinea augusta. If I didn't have to work there every now and then, I wouldn't buy them, but I can't help it! They've gone into cordyline walk, and the opposite side of the path has now become Vriesea walk. It should look great, given a bit of time to get established.
THANKS for the motivation!
Sue
heres another from the same garden in Brissie
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 12, 2009
07:37 PM Post #7268371
| Can't wait to see your new gardens! |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 13, 2009
05:15 AM Post #7269493
| Did you see the write up on Cordies in the Sub Tropical garden magazine? I wondered if it wasn't you who wrote the article? It only arrived toady so I haven;t read it from cover to cover yet.
Sue |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 13, 2009
05:25 AM Post #7269495
| Hi All,
I have been checking out all of the cordys here in Bali, and have found quite a few more this time around.
Interesting to know the STG mag is out, I will have to catch up with it when I get back. No Kristy wouldn't have written the article, if you look through the mag you will see who the contributers are, if the article doesn't have a name to it, then Paul would have written the article. Strange as it seems I can't write about cordys as I briefly covered them in one of the first issues.
This is only a very quick visit to the forum, will catch up again later.
Helen |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 13, 2009
05:27 AM Post #7269497
| It does say Kirsty, but not in the front where contributors are. You lucky duck being in Bali. I will try to get there one day. thunder and lightning , very very frighteningt. must get off this electrical contraption.
Cordy (and vriesea) walk this arvie
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 14, 2009
06:37 AM Post #7272806
| Hi weed woman, yes it was me who wrote the article... It only says that the photos are by me as Paul asked if I would like it as from me or from our society. Of course I chose to have it by the society which is why you won't be able to anything in the front with my name, it is probably there as The International Cordyline Society.
We are pretty happy with how it turned out... we have the magazine for sale at the Tropical Foliage Festival and they are walking out. Would love to know what you think...
Would love to see some of the photos from Bali Helen...
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 14, 2009
03:12 PM Post #7273797
| Hi Scruff,
It was really nice to meet you in person yesterday, to now be able to a face to the emails and messages. It was really great having your club visit... Hope you all had a great day!
Kristy |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 14, 2009
08:49 PM Post #7274762
| Kristy, now that would have to be a first for STG having someone from a society writing for the mag. You will see some photos in the next issue of STG but I will post some others here when I get back. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 15, 2009
05:15 AM Post #7275626
| I thought the article was great kristy. It confirmed some of what I already knew and taught me a few things I didn't, and the pictures were great too. I love that magazine, and find I will browse it over and over for the next few months. I've been a subscriber since I bought the first one at the news agency.
Cordy walk doesn't look so good in phots yet huh? I knew I should have let it grow a bit first. Its also hard to get the feeling I get from walking through it. Its a curved path and you can't really view it without walking down the length. I will have to experiment with photos to see which angle will show it at its best
Sue
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 16, 2009
01:29 AM Post #7278442
| Hi guys, I'm back from my biological farming course. We've been so busy I haven't had time to post. Not only did we wire the house, put up the ceilings and get me down to Yandina for my course but on my return found the gravity feed water pipes had stuffed up. Yesterday we had a 2 k trip up and down the very steep slippery World Hertiage Rainforest laden creekso we could start the pipes again.
Kristy, Your unknown cordy looks alot like Kaui Rose. Is it sort of intermediate in size? Congrats on the article it was great seeing so many correctly labeled cords lol and it was very informative, lovely photos. I hope STG builds more symbiotic relationships with tropo plant societies. After all your members are their readers :) I'm happy to report I'm only missing one on the collector's must have list and given that only threee people have it I guess it'll be on my must have list for awhile lol.
Madam Scruff, I got that IT listed on Ebay!!! We've bought from Deb before and she very graciously gave me a second chance on IT. Thanks for the heads up.
I still have a bit to catch up on but I'll try and get a few cord shots up. This last lot of rain has got everything pumpin.
Helen, I hope you are still in Bali. Can't wait to see some photos!!! If it makes you feel better Subaru doesn't grow well for me either, seems to do better in a pot.
Ann
ps Where is Sandra relocating to? I saw Santuro Park's website is down.
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CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 16, 2009
07:23 PM Post #7280427
| Hi Ann,
Wow you have been busy, I was beginning to wonder what happened to you. Could that cordyline be Kauai Beauty?? That is what it was sent to me as but I was unsure if it is correct? I will have to look into it further... Yes I would say intermediate.
Thanks about the article, when I read it it just brought back all the bad feelings I had in trying to write it. I a m no writter!! The one things Paul did stuff up on is my name however... it was my mum who noticed it... he wrote Kirsty instead of Kristy. Bugger he is, it's probabyly the only thing I will ever do and he stuffed it up on me!! I have to email Paul!! I think that is exactly what Paul is trying to do... it is something he has done in the last 5 issues, maybe more. He is getting the different society's to do big articles concentrating on their plant... and having information for all the differnt regions. He did do that with us though. I had to give the contacts of 5 differnt growers from far north Qld to NSW. I did that but he never contacted them which is a shame as different growing conditions in different climates is important. I was interested in seeing what he was going to put togther on that but he has printed it as I wrote it practically.
Oh well that will have to Kiani you are chasing then... LOL. All in due time... we are working on it... : )
Bye for now... |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 16, 2009
07:28 PM Post #7280444
| Oh yes... and Sandra is looking to move down to the Sunshine Coast way, maybe around Caboolture, that is as low as she will go. She has sold her her potted plants for the on line shop... she has her collection all potted up to take with her when she moves. The shop will stay there but will not be working, shes not sure what she is going to do with it. She wants to take some time off for a few years and get settled and I guess she will make a decission from there. It will be great to have her closer... |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
November 16, 2009
08:28 PM Post #7280673
| Hi All,
I finally have a minute to spare. I just never seem to have much time these days what with looking after the plants mainly cordylines of course plus our other love - mini neoregelias. Working on the magazine for The International Tropical Foliage & Garden Society Inc. and updating the CD-rom Cordylines A-Z (that of course is an on-going job, with new cultivars appearing all the time and I have been slack lately and have a bit of catching up to do)
Ann- I am thrilled to hear you are now the owner of an 'It' , Make sure you give it plenty of light to get the good colouring. Plus don't keep it too wet, it has inherited the Early Morning Diamond (the pollen parent) trait of geting the sulks if it is not very well drained. Also did your New Guinea Fan breed true. We have seed on one of ours but I don' t know if they are self set or have been insect pollinated with something else.
Kristy - It was nice to meet you in person at the weekend. We had a great trip even though we never scored anything new for our collections.
I don' t know if you were there when we were discussing the new insect pest we have in Bundaberg. We originally thought it was grasshopper damage and I am afraid the grasshopper was convicted on circumstantial evidence but it was actually caused by of all things a bee - The leaf cutting bee. It was imported from North America to improve pollination of Lucerne crops.
I have included photo of a Happy Giant showing the damage. And here I was thinking we had a very neat grasshopper giving us these unusual serrated edges on our cordylines.
Is anyone else having the same problem?
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 16, 2009
11:36 PM Post #7281222
| Hi Ann,
Yes I am still in Bali and enjoying all the gardens and the plants. They could do with an injection of new cordys here. A. purpurata is in full flower here and so are the heliconias including the psits.Been too busy enjoying it all here to even start of those articles.
Helen |
chrissy100
Sydney
Australia
November 17, 2009
12:37 AM Post #7281388
| scruff ...I think you may have leaf cutting bees having a go at your cordyline there.
http://www.aussiebee.com.au/leafcutter_bee.html |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 17, 2009
08:03 AM Post #7281855
| Oh my gosh Scruff,
That is really bad, is this a recently new thing? I haven't heard anything from anyone as yet. I did hear at the beginning of the year that Bundy was suffering with something but it was thought to be some kind o slug that was shreding the leaves. I don't even recall who I heard that from now. Have you had any problems like that? A bee?? I can't get over that! I wonder if it is a manace to anything else...
As for the cordylines... yes I know... there where a few good things there but of course they went on set up day and before the doors opened by the members... unfortunatly we had a grower who was meant to be bringing lots of cordys along pull out on us with short notice... February looks a lot better and we have lots planned for next Nov. It's unfortunate that you happen to come down to the show that we did have cordy problems... Some of the ones there were disgusting and I think they should have been ripped off the tables. However I'm glad you enjoyed your trip never the less...
Bye for now. |
breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia
November 17, 2009
05:27 PM Post #7283655
| This is my favourite plant, planted it and left it and it's grown so much with this flower opening a few mths ago. Reminds me of long ladies hair.
Don't look at the weeds under it. hehe!
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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia
November 17, 2009
05:28 PM Post #7283659
| closer... 
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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia
November 17, 2009
05:29 PM Post #7283670
| this is the best coloured one i think though... 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 17, 2009
07:10 PM Post #7283968
| Well, You can always come up here for the Friends of the Cairns Botanical Garden Plant Sale on Dec 6. Robyn Ganley, Jenny Ward and a few other cordy breeders are always there. It's the best of the plant sales up here. Better than the foliage fest, better than Carnival on Collins as all the collectors ( broms, heliconias, gingers, brugsmansia, cordylines, calatheas, palms, etc) are out in full force. Aside from that Flecker is such a magical place!
We'll be at stall three :)
We were so busy at the Carnival on Collins in Sept that this was the only picture I took lol. Hopefully I'll get a few more this time around.
Ann
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 18, 2009
03:17 AM Post #7285526
| Hello Breeindy, nice of you to join us. It seems to be a bit of a club, but I'm happy to see your pics and glad you shared them with us.
Sue |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 18, 2009
11:13 PM Post #7288402
| Scruff,
I have always been fascinated with those perfect half circles made by the leaf cutting bee. It comes and goes in my garden, seems to only happen every few years.
Helen |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 19, 2009
01:50 AM Post #7288824
| Breeindy, I think that last one is a Dracaena? Your cordyline australis (the purple one) looks like its blowing about in the wind. I did what you suggested and ignored the weeds. he he |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
November 19, 2009
02:02 AM Post #7288848
| Helen
We only seem to have had the problem with the leaf cutting bee over the last two years.
The ends of our shade-house are open for good air-circulation, so the bee can come and go. It must think it has found an El Dorado with all those lovely cordyline leaves to choose from. I have been told it uses the parts of the leaves it cuts for nesting purposes - but I do not know this for sure. Does make sense though.
I suppose it probably does attack other plants as well but I haven't as yet heard what.
Ann
The show at Flecker Gardens is always just fabulous with lots of new goodies to choose from. I only wish they had boy scouts on hand to carry the purchases back to the car for us poor oldies. A Boy Scout group willing to do the job would make a fortune. The first year we went, we didn't know how far the stalls were from the parking area. It didn't seem that far going to where the stalls were but we sure knew about it when we walked back with our purchases and there were lots of them (many in 8" pots).
I have attached a photo of one of the new cordylines that is in Bundy - Moody Blues, I am eagerly waiting to get one.
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dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand
November 19, 2009
04:40 AM Post #7288991
| all these lovely cordys...
are there any that can survive frosts?
Other than C. Australis,,,
There are lots of those to choose from in NZ
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breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia
November 19, 2009
04:33 PM Post #7290420
| It was blowing around in the wind..didn't think i could take a good photo but it's ok.
Oh it probly is a dracenea weed women.
See my poor kangaroo paw on the right in the background? It was great, then went under a flood for a few days but shot heaps of paws after, now this. ? |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 19, 2009
05:57 PM Post #7290654
| Scruff, Moody Blues is beautiful, I can see why you are eagerly waiting to get one.
Ann, That was one place we missed when we went up, the Flecker Gardens, we are coming back next year again so that is somehing I hope to do! Obvioulsy the festival won't be on... would love to be there. Funny time of year to do it, right before Christmas... we might to going to Bundaberg this Christmas. |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 19, 2009
10:17 PM Post #7291476
| Moody Blues is lovely, I agree!
Carolyn, earlier you had asked about those New Guinea Fan seedlings. They are big enough to be potted on and some do seem true to Momma but only time will tell. Dad was definitely Midnight Oil for some as they are very dark, some even have less strappy leaves.
I wish there were Boy Scouts to carry my stock in lol. Most sales you can get pretty close to unload but not this one. While I'm sweating my butt off carrying 5kg rhizomes of Dinosaur in two at a time I often wish it was neos that took my fancy.
Kristy, next time you come up sort it out so you can stay for lunch. I'm afraid I was a bit delirious with the flu a few weeks ago.
Breeindy, I'm afraid Cordyline australis would quickly wilt here. Strictly fructicosa for us!
Ann |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 19, 2009
10:44 PM Post #7291573
| Scruff,
Moody Blues is gorgeous, adore that colour, the shading of colour on it and the way the leaves fold - do I have to move up to Bundy?? The petioles don't look green in the photo, what colour are they and will it be on the new CD?
Off subject, there quite a few aralias here, pretty much the same as in Bundy. I have been reading that Sydney has been having a lot of 30-40C days since I have been away, interesting to see how the garden has coped. I am not that worried about the cordys as they will reshoot from the roots when I start watering again. |
weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 20, 2009
04:27 AM Post #7292085
| If no one else will answer Theresa, I will have a go! I will do a bit of research and see what I can come up with. I have a feeling most of the wide leaved cordys are for warm-temperate zones, and Christchurch just might be a little too far south. Would any of you CLUB members mind commenting?
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weed_woman
Coffs Harbour
Australia
November 20, 2009
04:48 AM Post #7292093
| http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philip.mcerlean/exoticfp.htm
Theresa, this is a link to an Irish garden that has some cold hardy cordys. Not as colourful as the tropicals though. There are some new cultivars of C. australis about though, and unlike here, where they suffer terribly with the humidity and Mosaic virus, you can prabaly grow them to perfection! Maybe you could move back to Brissie, then you can grow the broad leaved varieties! he he |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 20, 2009
06:46 PM Post #7293888
| I'm a member of both clubs but I unfortunately don't know anything about C. australis or which C. fruticosa will survive freezing temps. I live and garden in the Wet Tropics of Australia.
BTW Sue many fruticosa also have narrow leaves.
Ann
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 21, 2009
02:37 AM Post #7295432
| Hi Sue,
I am sitting in the Lobby of the resort we are staying at and we are mentally working out where Christchurch is in relation to Australia.
I am the same as Ann, a member of both clubs and a member of the Tropical Garden Society of Sydney but we aren't here because of the clubs we belong to, we are here because we love cordylines.
Theresa,
Sue is right in her answer to you, C. fruticosa cvs are for warm temperate to tropical areas, although these will grow down in coastal gardens in Melbourne, where the temperatures are more moderate. Ann has also given you a correct answer as C. australis does not grow in the tropics. C. australis is a New Zealand plant and it should grow where you are but it probably could need protection from the frost settling on it. It is difficult for us to work it out for you garden as you live so much further south of us, looking at a world map, just now, you are approximately level with the bottom of Tasmania. Have a look and see if they are in your local nursery and ask them about it.
Helen |
dalfyre
Christchurch
New Zealand
November 21, 2009
05:08 PM Post #7297104
| weed-woman thanks for the link - that gives me something to research - Cordyline indivisa...
I do have two C. australis & they are doing well in pots at the moment.
Thanks also to every one else for suggestions & comments - I did web search cordylines but there is so much info to sift through!.
I had a feeling I would be out of luck from what the research showed up but thought if there was anything out there that was cold hardy then the Aussies would know about it
After all you do get frosty & even snowy regions...
I do miss my tropical garden at times, used to grow frangipanis from cuttings until Mum made me stop as we had too many...
everything I put in the ground took off! |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 22, 2009
07:54 PM Post #7300968
| I thought I'd pop up a photo which is a new one for me, I absolutely love the coloring. It's named Fairy Tail Bird Feather.
Ann
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 22, 2009
07:56 PM Post #7300974
| Here's a photo of the bed extension we planted out a few months ago. The warmth and rain is finally kicking everything along. Ann 
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pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 22, 2009
07:58 PM Post #7300979
| I took a photo of the NGF seedlings so you can see just how much variation is in them.
Helen, When do you get back? Maybe a better question would be are you coming back lol?
Ann
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tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 23, 2009
06:00 PM Post #7303579
| Hi Ann,
I'm back and you are right, I didn't want to come back. This time I was thinking about how great it would be to buy some land and build a garden over there - wonder what the plant quarantine restrictions are like over there. Also sent you an email late yesterday re costus.
I will post some photos of cordylines I saw over there soon. |
tropicalsydney
Sydney
Australia
November 23, 2009
06:31 PM Post #7303691
| Ann, forgot to ask - that is Tartan in there with the other cordys in your bed extension photo? |
pogonantha
el arish, FNQ
Australia
November 23, 2009
06:57 PM Post #7303781
| Welcome back!! I got your message, I'm glad they are growing well :)
Yes, it is Tartan. I've been planting a few around the place. I've seen some photos of a Red Sister with a white trim around the edge much like Tartan but I don't think it's in Oz.
Has anyone seen or heard of it?
Ann |
CordylineMad
Brisbane, QLD
Australia
November 25, 2009
08:58 AM Post #7308257
| Wow Anne, those New guinea Fan seedlings have really come on since we were there. Your climate up there is just perfect, you're so lucky!! Can't wait to see what comes of them.
Welcome back Helen... look forward to seeing images from your trip... hope you had a lovely time. |
scruff
Bundaberg
Australia
November 29, 2009
04:57 AM Post #7318166
| Hi Helen,
It will be some time before Moody Blues is readily available. I don' t know how it will go in Sydney. The petioles are the usual for purple cultivars green with the inner ed marked with purple. Moody Blues is a seedling from Viola but reports are it went through the last winter without much drama. Yes Moody Blues will be on the next Cordylines A-Z CD-rom, I hope to have the next version released in 2012 (all going well). Have already added new varieties.
The leaf cutting bee seemed to be in action for only a few weeks, haven't had any more damage for a while now. Last year was the first time we had trouble, so looks like a yearly thing
Ann
Your New Guinea Fan seedlings look interesting - time will tell which ones are going to be the goers. We picked seed today for our N.G Fan, Afraid we don't know if they are self set or not. I really wanted to cross a purple C. fruticosa cultivar with it but of course no purples were in flower at the same time. Next season will collect pollen from the purples and freeze it to see if that works, then of course hope N.G. Fan does the right thing. Just imagine apurple fan shaped cordyline, may be a two or three generation project.
Cheers to all
Scruff |
