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dave
Jacksonville, TX
(Zone 8a)
 October 26, 2009
05:50 AM Post #7209140
| There are a total of 367 votes:
| Yes, we've had a light frost.
(109 votes, 29%) |  |
| Not yet, but it should be any day.
(51 votes, 13%) | |
| We've already had a hard freeze where we live.
(81 votes, 22%) | |
| My climate does not have frost.
(16 votes, 4%) | |
| I am south of the Equator and it is nice and warm!
(4 votes, 1%) | |
| Our first frost is still some weeks away.
(106 votes, 28%) | |
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Resin
Northumberland
United Kingdom
(Zone 9a)
October 26, 2009
05:56 AM Post #7209148
| Came very close to a first frost a couple of days last week with temperatures down to 3 or 4 degrees, but now it's turned milder again, and no frost expected this week. Could be any time next week though.
Resin
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greenbrain
Madison, IL
(Zone 6a)
October 26, 2009
06:09 AM Post #7209159
| The weather has been mostly rainy here, so that's kept the frost at bay. We've had at least one light frost starting around 10/17 when the temps dropped and the skies cleared for a few nights. If the rain & temps hold up for the next week as predicted, we should be frost free for now. I'm counting on the late winter squash to finish ripening before the vines die. The bean, okra, tomato, and pepper plants are also still alive. |
herbalbetty
Middleburgh, NY
October 26, 2009
06:17 AM Post #7209165
| We had a week of low 20s at night, already had snow as well. It has moderated somewhat now and we actually had temps in the 50s! |
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)
October 26, 2009
06:30 AM Post #7209174
| No frost here! YAY! |
bjf826
(Barb) Quincy, FL
(Zone 8b)
October 26, 2009
06:45 AM Post #7209184
| Thankfully, we won't see frost for a good while yet here in the the Florida panhandle! :) |
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)
October 26, 2009
07:09 AM Post #7209202
| First frost here is consistantly around Thanksgiving. Thankfully, that gives me time to move the more tender plants into storage! |
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
08:05 AM Post #7209298
| First frost is generally around Nov. 10th here but some years we've gone through December and into mid January before we finally got the first frost. |
CapeCodGardener
Mid-Cape, MA
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
08:23 AM Post #7209347
| We haven't had a frost yet here in my Mid-Cape garden, but some other spots on the Cape had a very light one a week ago (10/20) when the temps at night dipped unusually low. Generally, we don't have frost until mid-November. That's good, 'cause I'm still planting bulbs! (100+ tulips went in yesterday!) |
melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
08:37 AM Post #7209375
| We had a light frost last weekend but not even enough to hurt my roses or kill the skeeters. There was a bit on neighbor's roofs and patches here and there. |
gardenmart
Saugus, MA
(Zone 6b)
October 26, 2009
09:03 AM Post #7209456
| We had a light {?} frost that killed off my gargantuan coleus, the tomato plants, which were not so hot this season anyway, and took out the hosta leaves. I still have marigolds, begonias, and other plants growing in containers that are blooming still. I will miss those coleus. They were spectacular.
Martha |
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
09:08 AM Post #7209471
| You didn't take cuttings??? |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
October 26, 2009
10:02 AM Post #7209628
| Hard freeze and 6 inches of snow - but it melted, thank goodness!
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melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
10:11 AM Post #7209652
| Did I mention that I still have roses Kathleen??? |
Kathleen
Panama, NY
(Zone 5a)
October 26, 2009
10:21 AM Post #7209681
| : P haha, so do I! several of the ramblers rebloomed, silly things. This year has been very confusing for them. |
taters55
(Linda Kay) Del Rio, TX
(Zone 9a)
October 26, 2009
10:34 AM Post #7209713
| No frost here yet, it is maybe a month or so away? Maybe late December? |
LouC
Desoto, TX
(Zone 8a)
October 26, 2009
10:38 AM Post #7209728
| My daffodils are confused. They are up. Had another 2inches of rain last night and all the tropicals are still growing like it is spring. One frost and they will all be mush. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 26, 2009
10:49 AM Post #7209769
| Will probably hit us the next swing to colder weather. The weather service says 32F at the airport tonight. If that is accurate, I'll be a couple degrees over freezing. |
Jimsned2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
October 26, 2009
10:49 AM Post #7209772
| Frost! What's frost?  , well not yet but they are predicting a colder winter, so maybe Ft Lauderdale will get too cold to swim.
This message was edited Oct 26, 2009 5:10 PM |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
October 26, 2009
02:41 PM Post #7210560
| Woke up to an inch of snow this morning. It stuck around until noon. I would say it was the end for the coleus! |
DMersh
Maidstone
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)
October 26, 2009
03:47 PM Post #7210801
| I'd always thought of New Mexico as somewhere that only rarely gets snow, does it ever settle for long? |
hem_iamy
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 26, 2009
04:32 PM Post #7210970
| We should have our first real freeze mid-week (which is a week or so later than average), along with some snow : ) Roybird may get more snow than us in Albuquerque, we usually see a dusting to a few inches several times per winter... we did have a 50-year storm in 2006, got 12"... noone had snowshovels : P |
Kelli
L.A. (Canoga Park), CA
(Zone 10a)
October 26, 2009
05:03 PM Post #7211091
| I am taking this exactly as it says and assume you mean frost and do not mean freeze. First frost is weeks to months away. Freeze occurs maybe one time in eight years. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 26, 2009
05:24 PM Post #7211150
| DMersh: New Mexico, while pretty far South, is high up in elevation. Roybird lives in Santa Fe, which is around 7000 feet in elevation. The more Southerly you are and lower in elevation, the less snow you'll see and the sooner it will go away. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
October 26, 2009
05:32 PM Post #7211179
| Thanks, Dave. We get a good amount of snow on the mountains around Santa Fe. There is a ski area and also a ski area in Albuquerque, in the Sandia Mts. It is all about altitude in the Rockies. |
gardenmart
Saugus, MA
(Zone 6b)
October 26, 2009
07:38 PM Post #7211621
| No I didn't take coleus cuttings. I believe their gargantuan size was due to an application of Colorburst fertilizer. They were just plain ole ordinary coleus in a half flat. With the fertilizer, they took off! I feel certain I can repeat this next year. 'Sides, I have to bring in hibiscus, geraniums, bird of paradise, jade plants, Christmas and orchid cacti, and ferns. among others. I don't really have room for annuals.
Martha |
DMersh
Maidstone
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)
October 26, 2009
07:47 PM Post #7211651
| Sounds like you get more snow in NM than the UK! Most of Britain is no more than a few hundred feet above sea level, in the southeast theres maybe one or two heavy falls of snow but most of the winter is snow free. Very gloomy and damp though. |
dixiegril
Jesup, GA
October 26, 2009
07:48 PM Post #7211654
| It will be a good while before we get frost. Am loving the cooler weather after the long hot summer we had. Just hoping it will get cold enough to kill the mosquitoes. Can't stand the little devils ! |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 26, 2009
09:09 PM Post #7211970
| I am amazed at how mild Britain is for how far North it is. |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
October 26, 2009
09:59 PM Post #7212149
| HELLO dear peoples! I am from the zone of 4 seasons (which I luv). Mittenclad due to freezyness as I type but I must say our 2010 Olympic mittens are very prettiful! Here we are moving with increasing speed into the time of the cold and the dark. No worries friends. I am creating new dances and songs to share and the seed catalogues are arriving AND the first day of spring is only 51 sleeps away WHOO HOO bonus the winter fairys are back |
pirl
Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
10:02 PM Post #7212163
| D'nut - 51 days? By what calendar? |
CapeCodGardener
Mid-Cape, MA
(Zone 7a)
October 26, 2009
10:27 PM Post #7212251
| Pirl, that's my question, too! ( I count 51 days from now = December 16. Now that would be close to the Solstice. Does that count as first day of on-the-way-to-spring? |
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)
October 26, 2009
10:33 PM Post #7212273
| Solstice dear Pirl The sun comes back and then the bulbous things will begin to emerge in the deep south states. I'm not proud. I will live vicariously in the gardens of TX friends. Also the dahlias will be up in Australia and begin to bloom. I LUV the first day of spring! I will be in AZ for solstice this year SO even more special!
edit: crappola math challenged AGAIN? Sleeps are supposed to be til solstice. I should never count. It's too confusing sigh.
This message was edited Oct 26, 2009 8:36 PM |
MarciaS
Greenacres, WA
October 26, 2009
11:02 PM Post #7212345
| YES WE DID it got down to 17 degrees at night several times I am so glad we covered the Tomatoes up every thing else froze not covered.
Spokane Valley WA |
Marilynbeth
Hebron, KY
October 26, 2009
11:49 PM Post #7212517
| We got down to 28 around the 17th, which is very early for a freeze here in Northern KY. Our average first freeze is towards the end of October. We haven't had any more freezes since.
I covered what I could with sheets. Some didn't make it that didn't get covered, but the two containers of Coleus that were covered, didn't make it. |
westraad
Xai Xai
Mozambique
October 27, 2009
02:03 AM Post #7212717
| Ah, i lay in the sun on the beach, covered in sunscreen, baking! when it gets too hot, i take a wonderful, cool, swim in the clear waters of the Indian Ocean. :-)
its starting summer here, with average 90 degrees during the day.
Isaac |
greenbrain
Madison, IL
(Zone 6a)
October 27, 2009
08:40 AM Post #7213064
| The fall colors here are breathtaking. We just don't have as many daylight hours to enjoy them. I am happy about the lower electric/gas bill (ours are combined). The exotic ladybugs swarm everytime the sun is shining. Bring on the frost because I'm ready to hibernate. Z-z-z-z-z-z-z |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)
October 27, 2009
09:06 AM Post #7213144
| Lol Dahlianut... we still have Samhain, Yule and Bridgid to get through before we reach Eostara...rushing the calendar and living vicariously...grin |
WaterCan2
Suffolk County, NY
(Zone 7a)
October 27, 2009
09:56 AM Post #7213266
| We got a very light coating about a week ago, am windchill was 28° that day. |
woofie
Chewelah, WA
(Zone 5a)
October 27, 2009
12:16 PM Post #7213639
| Does 15 deg F count as first frost? My garden has been toast since about 3 weeks ago! Ha! But I did bring in a couple of Coleus and I cheated and bought me a Cyclamen. |
figaro52
Oak Lawn, IL
(Zone 5a)
October 28, 2009
12:15 AM Post #7215814
| We've had more than one hard freeze. They seem to come earlier every year. This year was one of the earliest ones I can remember -- Oct. 11. |
Joy
Kalama, WA
(Zone 8b)
October 28, 2009
12:34 AM Post #7215858
| I chose 'Our frost is still weeks away' but it has come sooner some years. So I may be eating those words soon.
DMersh, Your winters sound very much like what we get here in the PNW. We have more dark, grey days and rain than anything.
Joy
This message was edited Oct 28, 2009 1:57 AM |
Nayeli
Deadrock, MT
(Zone 4a)
October 28, 2009
01:05 AM Post #7215905
| Our first frost was in late August. We had a hard freeze in late September. I mounded up straw on my parsnips. Hopefully they survive in the ground through the winter! |
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)
October 28, 2009
10:04 AM Post #7216491
| I sure wish we would get some cooler temp's, not cold ... just a little cooler! At 1:30 a.m. it was still 74º and very humid here. I don't like extremely cold weather and don't want the snow and ice or hard freezes but a little teensy, itty bitty bit of frost would be welcome!
Our normal daytime high's for this time of year are low 80's but we've been tying and breaking records in Central Florida lately. Too many 90 and 91º days with humidity to match! It's October, shouldn't we at least get to have daytime highs in the 70's? We did get a taste of fall a couple of weeks ago with temp's in the upper 70's and no humidity! It didn't last long though!
From the looks of a few trees around the neighborhood, I'd say Florida Fall is trying to kick into gear ... the Sycamore's are starting to lose their foliage and the leaves on the Hickory trees seem to be getting darker, but not falling yet, and the Crape Myrtles are almost bare. We rarely see much fall color down this way, the deciduous trees usually just go from green leaves to brown and drop. We'd have to go up into Georgia to get a taste of the fall colors. I think it would be nice to live somewhere to experience the 4 seasons! I just don't want to have to stay long when the snow hits the ground!
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DenverJude
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 28, 2009
11:45 AM Post #7216805
| Hard frost came a bit early for us, but then it's Denver and the weather is always variable. We tend to not have a 'spring' or 'fall' but two seasons that alternate winter and summer days until one eventually wins out (mostly). A couple of days ago we were 80 and sunny and today we've got a minor snowstorm going while this coming weekend is supposed to be 50s or 60s and sunny again. The only thing I miss about the midwest is the season of Fall. |
roybird
Santa Fe, NM
October 28, 2009
12:38 PM Post #7217010
| I miss spring in the midwest or the south. Our spring season is so windy and cold. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 28, 2009
12:57 PM Post #7217061
| RM seasons (at least here). Summer is hot then monsoons - moisture from the SW. Fall is warm and dry. Winter is cold with intermittent storms from the NW. Spring bounces all over the place between warm and cold with lots of wind and some rain (or snow) thrown in. |
Kylaluaz
Weed, CA
(Zone 7b)
October 28, 2009
08:23 PM Post #7218437
| We had a frost a few weeks ago, actually, but it did not kill a thing... and warmed quite a bit for a while afterward but last night's 29 did in the cosmos finally, I was wondering what it would take! Frozen layer on the bird water this morning. When I went out to clip off the remaining zinnia seedheads, a flight of migrating gees was just coming in to hearing distance. They were not honking but making a deep throated chirp, almost a purr. I did not know what I was hearing, that kept coming closer, until they appeared above the neighboring cottonwood tree and clearly forming up for a V to the South.
I was glad I chose that moment to go out and clip off the zinnia seedheads.
I love this season. |
gardenmart
Saugus, MA
(Zone 6b)
October 29, 2009
12:13 AM Post #7219275
| LOL Dahlia, dear,
I count the first day of spring a little later. It's when I get my Burpees catalog. It's usually the first one to come in late december or early January.
Martha |
Aguane
Phoenix, AZ
October 29, 2009
10:16 AM Post #7220151
| This morning the roofs in my neighborhood are covered in a white layer of frost. Its Oct 29. Usually this time of year I'm wondering how the little goblins can stand wearing their costumes in 80-90 degree heat. For us its downright cold and this weather comes very early. Unusual. |
HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)
October 29, 2009
11:42 AM Post #7220393
| I usually expect our first frost around the 15th of October - this year it was the 17th. Close enough!
It didn't do much damage, I had already pulled the tomatoes, peppers, and sweet potatoes.
The volunteer black beans were bitten rather badly - which I told them was their own fault for replanting themselves in August!
The broccoli and collards are loving the cooler weather, and the carrots taste much better now that the ground is cooler. Wish the peas would grow! |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 29, 2009
12:29 PM Post #7220564
| OK, now we've had our first frost. "Any day now" turned out to be 3. |
DenverJude
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 29, 2009
12:52 PM Post #7220619
| Right now there is 18+" on snow on the ground, temps in the mid 20's and it's still dumping. Our average first freeze and snow is usually about now, but we don't normally get this much snow this early in the year (though I've seen it happen a couple of times in my 30 years here). It'll be in the 60 and sunny next week. |
Aguane
Phoenix, AZ
October 29, 2009
09:52 PM Post #7222329
| Keep the snow coming, DJ. We need your runoff down here in the desert...Colorado River. |
DenverJude
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 30, 2009
03:24 AM Post #7222965
|
Yeah, I know. I was thoroughly appalled at the water waste I saw on a visit to Phoenix a few years back. Fountains running full in the midday heat spilling onto pavement, the flooding form of irrigation of the golf courses and estates, people running sprinklers over their kentucky bluegrass lawns in midday. The hotel I was in for a conference washed my sheets & towels daily even though I asked them not to.
At that time here we were allowed 30 minutes of watering per _week_, no washing down of concrete or pavement, no washing cars or exterior windows (all with a $100 fine if you got caught - and they patrolled like crazy - up to $500 if you got caught a second time and a line restriction plus bigger fine if you got caught more than twice). No water in restaurants unless you begged for it. There was a steep surcharge if household use went above 5000 gallons per month. We were hauling our 'grey' water from doing dishes and laundry and showering out to give our gardens a drink (which is technically illegal here due to water rights laws - we are not allowed to capture rainwater either). The city installed non-potable water lines for watering the local parks and watered only twice per week for 30 minutes. Many parks had large fenced off 'dead' areas where no one was allowed to go to keep erosion down. Plains farmers had to shut down because wells ran dry and they couldn't irrigate with no water coming down the ditches from depleted reservoirs even though _they_ own some of those water rights. Many of our once beautiful street trees are still showing drought stress even though we've been able to give them adequate water now for the last 2 years (we are never without _some_ watering restrictions and since the drought most people do everything they can to conserve). I know AZ & CA and even a bit of Mexico paid for the water rights long ago and so we had to release the water from our reservoirs even during a drought (to less than 40% capacity, a few even emptied and the fish populations relocated), but it still made me angry to see so much waste downstream. You'd think that during a drought, people would care more about conserving water.
Yes, snow is good. But this is an upslope, so the snow is only hitting the front range and eastern plains, not the mountains which is where we need it to replenish the reservoirs (which were fortunately full last summer for the first time in 7 years). In a few days we'll have Chinook winds (which translate to english as 'snow eater' winds). It will warm things up, evaporate (not melt - evaporate) the snow and we'll be dry once again. I can only hope the mountains have a nice wet winter so we can _all_ have enough water next summer.
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mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)
October 30, 2009
09:59 PM Post #7225662
| This has been the rainiest year I can remember in a while. it started out raining and all the time we were in a deficiate for rain, it sure did make up for lost time. The water filled dried up lakes and streams and overflowed all around. Then a couple weeks ago we got an unexpected frost 2 nights in a row. I figure we may get an early winter this year. Had to put up my greenhouse a month early. Barely got my stuff inside it in time to save it from frost. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 30, 2009
10:09 PM Post #7225699
| Its frustrating to watch flagrant waste Jude. Even a little bit of attention so that you make reasable use of what you have would benefit. |
steadycam3
Houston, TX
October 31, 2009
12:19 AM Post #7226113
| Denverjude, it's good for us to hear what you have said. We can use some more awareness of using water wisely. In 2005-6, I lived in Dallas, TX and there was such a drought that most of the City's water reservoirs were down by 19 to 25 feet compared to normal. All the lawns were dying in the the subdivisions, all new landscape projects just died, school playgrounds were developing large cracks such that the children could not play there. I was wondering why you are not allowed to collect rain water or to use gray water, there. |
DenverJude
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 31, 2009
01:32 AM Post #7226314
| ^ probably due to the same water laws that we are under.
If desert areas who _have_ the water rights would use their water wisely (drip irrigation in the wee hours vs. flooding overnight or spraying in the day heat); restrictions on types of grass planted (rye, fescue and/or buffalo grass mixes vs. kentucky blue); restrictions on the number of days and time people water (3 days per week, 2 x 30 minutes per zone per allowed day); education and encouragement of Xeriscaping (many HOAs forbid it); wash hotel sheets & towels only every other or every third day for long term guests unless they request otherwise; shut down public water fountains during a drought (we sure did - every one of them dry); then maybe there would be enough water left in the high country reservoirs to keep all of us able to garden and grow and drink and be healthy. |
dparsons01
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 31, 2009
03:44 AM Post #7226505
| Most places I've stayed on travel will have a small placard that you can put out on the bed to not have your linens washed. They will be washed anyway. I would bet that the laundry people get paid by the room and by the sheet, so they wash them irregardless of the placard. Only way to keep them from washing your linens in most cases is to put the "DO NOT DISTURB" sign on the outside of the door. |
DenverJude
Denver, CO
(Zone 5b)
October 31, 2009
11:38 AM Post #7227175
| Here they do not wash that stuff daily unless you ask. I think the cleaning staff get in trouble if they do. Hotels get surcharges up the wazoo for high water use. Even now that we're not on severe restrictions. It's just become normal. Same with water in restaurants. They still don't bring it unless you ask, though wait staff has become better about eventually asking if you want water. I haven't seen a restaurant set a table up with water unasked in years.
Denver Water has an entire section of their website devoted to water conservation. It's applicable anywhere.
http://www.denverwater.org/Conservation
Seems odd that the water company would be encouraging people to _not_ use water, but it sure has permeated the culture in Colorado. |
cactuspatch
La Luz/Alamogordo, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 31, 2009
11:45 AM Post #7227186
| We did get a light frost on Wednesday. Got my tomatoes, cosmos and zinnias. This is early for us. Got snow in the mts. about 20 minutes from my house. Great for the moisture and the ski resort about 40 minutes away. My roses still look great though. 
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Aguane
Phoenix, AZ
October 31, 2009
02:36 PM Post #7227628
| DenverJude etal,
I am in absolute agreement re water conservation, appropriate planting for the time of year and desert exposure. I'm from San Francisco CA. When I moved here 17 years ago I was leaving SF after a 6 year drought. Huge fines for home owners using more than allotted quotas of water... based on prior years usage. Huge fines. Drought certainly has hit the Western states hard and once again it becomes political.
Re Phoenix. One problem is that this population is so transient and includes many people moving here from areas that don't experience drought. Their idea of conservation is a lot different than someone who knows this area gets an average rainfall of 5-7 inches annually. Often from a monsoon downpour in August that can be 2 inches of that 5-7 inch average. Its will catch up with all of us one day soon.
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cactuspatch
La Luz/Alamogordo, NM
(Zone 7b)
October 31, 2009
03:01 PM Post #7227686
| I agree! Sorry to say but the large influx into our states of those that have no idea of conservation is something I have been cringing at for years. Simple things like not turning off the stream of water while brushing your teeth (something I was taught when they taught me to brush!) is often a shock as they never thought of it, and stuff like that has to add up. There are watering restrictions and I hear people talk of how they disobey them etc. The restrictions are the way I have always lived--since before they were a law so it is no different to me, just common sense. |
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)
October 31, 2009
04:12 PM Post #7227874
| Cactuspatch, you just stated the problem...common sense is no longer practiced...I have a bumper sticker that says, COMMON SENSE, ISN'T. |
avaeads
Seward, AK
(Zone 7b)
October 31, 2009
05:20 PM Post #7228031
| My late sister Carol's, (ceeadsalaskazone3) favorite saying used to be; "We have four seasons here: we have early winter, winter, late winter and next winter." ...haha... Not exactly true, but funny never the less...
Click the image for an enlarged view.
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Kylaluaz
Weed, CA
(Zone 7b)
October 31, 2009
09:33 PM Post #7228657
| haha yes. Winter, the season that never ends. Somewhere, it is always winter. Winter, IMO, has a very high opinion of itself and tends to crowd out any other seasons that might exist. Even if one lives where they do.
nice picture. |
irisMA
South Hamilton, MA
October 31, 2009
11:31 PM Post #7228959
| Our frost was so light that there was no damage--think we were just down to 30, but technically we had it. No annuals or veggies anyway so nothing to damage--leaves really starting to blow down now, so put more effort on raking those & putting on the compost area. |
bonehead
Pacific NW, WA
(Zone 8a)
November 12, 2009
06:33 PM Post #7268174
| Not a hard frost, just a couple very light ones. Usually my killing frost is around Halloween so it's late this year for me. |
