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Forum: Plant and Tree IdentificationReplies: 18, Views: 195
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Kiyzersoze
Coral Springs, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 2, 2009
10:59 PM

Post #7235845

I found this vine growing on a fence. I thought it looked somewhat like a Hoya but I don't know anything about Hoyas. It was growing in a vacant field. It has a few small leaves and clumps of small white flowers that (at least in the afternoon) have a strong wonderful smell like Jasmine or Gardenia. Please help I.D.

Thank you! Happy gardening!

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Kiyzersoze
Coral Springs, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 2, 2009
11:02 PM

Post #7235851

Here is it's seed pod.

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faeden
Richmond, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 3, 2009
01:36 AM

Post #7236311

Looks like a type of Cynanchum. Some are highly fragrant; some are toxic.
Kiyzersoze
Coral Springs, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 3, 2009
02:12 AM

Post #7236355

I checked out the Cynanchums on DG and I don't think that is correct. I guess I should have clarified size a little more. The vine is long (probably 15+) but not a full / massive vine. The vine started in the field and made it's way to the fence. From root to fence it was probably 10 feet. Then it went up the fence with only 1 or 2 branches. The vine from root to fence is brown but rubbery as it went up the fence it has small green branches about a foot or so with a clump of flowers at the end. Here it is on the (8 foot) fence. Sorry, I know that it's out of focus but it's all I got. Hopefully this helps.

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JuneyBug
Dongducheon CpCasey
South Korea
(Zone 4b)

November 3, 2009
02:14 AM

Post #7236357

Looks like a hoya. DG has a forum devoted to hoya's and the kind folks there will help you fastest.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/hoya/all/
faeden
Richmond, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 3, 2009
02:55 AM

Post #7236377

Definitely take it to the Hoya forum. If they decide it's not a Hoya, look again at Cynanchums - not necessarily on DG, but on the Web as a whole. DG has only 20 species listed out of a possible 300 species of Cynanchum. I thought many of the images I saw when I googled it looked a lot like your vine.
Kiyzersoze
Coral Springs, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 3, 2009
04:36 AM

Post #7236423

I see what you are saying about Cynanchums but Cynanchums are in the cactus family. I am 99% sure this is not a cactus. The Cynanchums also see to have joints in the vine. This vine doesn't have joints and Cynanchums seem to only get a couple feet long. This vine is way longer. Thanks for the Hoya link. They should at least be able to tell if it is a Hoya even if they don't know what it is. Thanks again!
tishrh
Mount Vernon, OH

November 3, 2009
07:54 AM

Post #7236545

Is it kinda of woody stem? I was thinking more of the lines of a honeysuckle vine. Small leaves and many different varities and flower shapes. Also some have a big smell to them.
trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 3, 2009
10:42 AM

Post #7236967

it looks like Sarcostemma clausa (White Vine) to me: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/3277166799_397472f41f.jp...
JuneyBug
Dongducheon CpCasey
South Korea
(Zone 4b)

November 3, 2009
10:53 AM

Post #7236992

They sure do!
trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 3, 2009
11:08 AM

Post #7237036

if you do decide that this is a proper id, please add it to the pf. there is no listing for it in pf.
plantladylin
East Central, FL
(Zone 9b)

November 3, 2009
11:20 AM

Post #7237070

Trackinsand: I found one in Plant Files listed as Sarcostemma clausum: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/102762/

edited to add: It's in the same family as Hoya's.

This message was edited Nov 3, 2009 10:21 AM
themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

November 3, 2009
11:46 AM

Post #7237134

Good eye, Track. Looks like you nailed this one.
Sofi
Colts Neck, NJ
(Zone 7a)

November 3, 2009
12:37 PM

Post #7237305

I thought it looked like a hoya! Nice job Trackinsand.

Just as an aside, the cynanchums are not in the cactus family.

Cynanchums are members of either the family Apocynaceae or Asclepiadacea. As I understand these two have now been combined into one family.


From Wikipedia definition of Apocynaceae:

Taxonomy
The family, as currently recognized, includes some 1500 species divided in about 424 genera. The family Asclepiadaceae is now, according to AGP II included in the Apocynaceae (Endress & Bruyns, 2000).

There are five subfamilies:

Rauvolfioideae
Apocynoideae
Periplocoideae
Secamonoideae
Asclepiadoideae
The former two sub-families were part of the Apocynaceae sensu stricto, whilst the latter three sub-families used to belong to the Asclepiadaceae. The Apocynaceae is the result of a conflation of the two families.

Kiyzersoze
Coral Springs, FL
(Zone 10b)

November 3, 2009
02:12 PM

Post #7237604

Thank you everyone, especially Trankinsand. I believe that this is a correct I.D. Mine is just slightly different but may be due to it's growing conditions and lack of care in the abandon field. My leaves are smaller and no purple in the flower, at least when I saw it in bloom.

I don't know anything about Cynanchums but in researching I did find two website that had them in the cactus family.

If anyone is interested in seeds I have a few for trade. I have not tried to start them from seed yet but they do root very easily.

I will leave the thread open for a day or so people will see for seed trades. Be sure to Dmail me for trades. It may not be a good idea to put your info on the thread.

Thanks again and Happy Gardening!!
trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 3, 2009
05:01 PM

Post #7238093

great! i love a happy ending...
faeden
Richmond, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 3, 2009
11:49 PM

Post #7239499

Thanks, track! Believe it or not, that was the other genus I was trying to remember, but I had a brain freeze. LOL!!!

Sofi - thanks for all the info. Even though, as Kiyersoze indicated, there were two websites which stated that Cynanchums were in the cactus family, you are absolutely correct that they are NOT. As you are definitely aware, a lot of research needs to be done using .edu and other research-oriented websites in order to learn what information is correct. And even then one should double and triple check it! Even the botanic garden where I volunteer hasn't completely updated all of the changes that have been made over the last few years. The more DNA work that's done the more the botanists learn about plant relationships.
trackinsand
mid central, FL
(Zone 9a)

November 4, 2009
09:09 AM

Post #7240039

i have brain freeze every single day! it's one of the reasons i love the id forum. it really makes you work!
faeden
Richmond, CA
(Zone 9b)

November 4, 2009
03:01 PM

Post #7241264

LOL!!!

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