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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 1, 2009
1:48 PM

Post #7324698

Looking back on 2009 and it's time to show off the best photos of your gardens.


Photo is from Zuzu's calendar. Thanks, Zuzu, for a wonderful year of photos.

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themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 6, 2009
11:09 PM

Post #7342612

What a sweet kitty, Pirl

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 7, 2009
12:21 AM

Post #7342845

Arlene

Great idea, as it snowed here yesterday...

I am already missing my gardens.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2009
6:01 AM

Post #7343860

Wow, Carolyn, What a pretty combination. What is that white flower? It looks familiar.
cedarcottage
Madison, MS

December 7, 2009
12:33 PM

Post #7344155

Hi ya'll,

Looking back 2009.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2009
5:35 PM

Post #7345059

That's very beautiful, CedarCottage.

Here's April.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 7, 2009
6:00 PM

Post #7345167

Lovely photos. It's one of Zuzu's kitties - we have a dog who is as spoiled as all of Zuzu's kitties!

Here's one I took of a friend's garden. He really impressed me with his garden! He has over 1000 roses and over 200 clematises along with countless lilies. It's a beautiful spot that can't be seen from the street.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2009
6:07 PM

Post #7345195

That's beautiful, Pirl. It looks very patriotic. I loved themed plantings. It's a shame that passers by don't get to enjoy it.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 7, 2009
6:55 PM

Post #7345424

That area has more deer than we do so it's totally fenced off to protect the plants.

Here's one of our gardens - taken at the end of June.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2009
7:06 PM

Post #7345473

That's just beautiful Pirl. I'm glad to see that someone other than me grows Daylilies in the shade.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 7, 2009
11:12 PM

Post #7346444

Most of my dark colored daylilies are in full shade to prevent bleaching out of the colors. Even if I get fewer flowers they are nicer than if they were in sunshine.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 7, 2009
11:46 PM

Post #7346575

Pirl, I also find that with the Oriental and OT lilies, some of the colors might not be as good , but the blooms are so much longer lasting. They seem to bloom for weeks in the shade.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 8, 2009
12:10 AM

Post #7346648

Mary,

That is Clematis Hakuri (sp?) with Veronica Giles Von Hees. I bought Hakuri from Brushwood Nursery a couple of years ago. http://www.gardenvines.com/shop/non-vining-clematis-5/clematis-hakurei-105.html

Don't you just love the integrefolia clems? Here is another picture of Hakuri.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 8, 2009
12:21 AM

Post #7346674

Carolyn, I've seen photos of them before, but never one in person. It's very charming. Is that all one plant just rambling through the bed?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 8, 2009
12:28 AM

Post #7346693

Mary

It is one plant and does just ramble through my garden. Here is the same plant with Missouri Primrose.

I have several of the integrefolias and I just love them...

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
12:48 AM

Post #7346763

It's so sweet. Please post more photos of it - after all it is December.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
12:26 PM

Post #7347972

Here are some of mine.I save good ones in a DESKTOP folder and use them all winter.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/GardenBestShots2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCI6Cv6eXm_P8hQE

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 8, 2009
1:09 PM

Post #7348053

The bees loved the Morning Glory bush

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
1:10 PM

Post #7348058

Thats a beauty

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 8, 2009
1:37 PM

Post #7348117

GE, I think I see a "honeybee" hanging out in your yellow lily...grin lovely flowers in your garden

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
1:48 PM

Post #7348136

Thanks The bee could very well have bee - n there LOL
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
2:12 PM

Post #7348182

Great photos, Jo Ann. I love that First Crown. Now I have to make room for it.

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 8, 2009
2:40 PM

Post #7348265

This is one of my favorite dark daylilies...I have had it for years and it is in full sun...holds its' color really well. I is supposed to be Dragon Lore

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 8, 2009
3:06 PM

Post #7348338

Lovely photos everyone!!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
4:01 PM

Post #7348495

Here's Malaysian Monarch, which I always keep in shade/dappled morning sun to retain the beauty of the color.

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saanansandy
Sue, RI
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
4:07 PM

Post #7348511

Beautiful pictures everyone! I'm already forgetting about the cold weather and thinking of summertime.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 8, 2009
4:09 PM

Post #7348513

I added Malaysian Monarch this fall. Can't wait to see it bloom.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
4:19 PM

Post #7348529

It's downright ugly in sun.

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 8, 2009
4:26 PM

Post #7348559

Some of them can certainly look so washed out and forlorn...that is really pretty, Pirl.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
4:38 PM

Post #7348601

Thanks!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
4:53 PM

Post #7348639

My DL's planted this summer, will nearly all be surprises.What a treat,the anticipation will keep me going all winter.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
11:25 PM

Post #7349916

After all the work you did planting them you deserve sweet dreams.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 8, 2009
11:26 PM

Post #7349921

Look whose talking on the sending end.
It sure surprised the UPS guy.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 8, 2009
11:28 PM

Post #7349925

It was really the post office guy who teased me!
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2009
1:13 AM

Post #7350223

Love the daylily pictures... another type of flower that catches my eye, but then all plants catch my eye...

It is December and we are supposed to get this storm that is racing across the country. Makes me miss the sights and scents of the gardening season all the more...

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
1:48 AM

Post #7350320

More beautiful Clematis. This is my first year growing Clematis.

I also grow Peonies and Roses in the shade. This photo is from early May.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
2:19 AM

Post #7350395

Thanks to my local enabler, ge1836, I ordered some poppy seeds today. I will throw them out in the garden, if I get them before the snow gets so high I can't get there. Thanks, Jo Ann.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:08 AM

Post #7350748

Just saw this thread...wish I'd looked earlier because I've needed a good dose of summer again. You all have beautiful pictures. I really loved the daylilies as that's one thing that grows quite easily in Kansas. Also the clematis, roses, lilies...well all of it. This old farmstead is kind of hard on things due to wind and sun, but what does grow usually grows pretty well. I'm afraid my beds aren't nearly as neat and polished as many of yours, but I love them. I don't have much to share from last summer as I was unable to get out from March to July, but here is one from early September when my Sweet Autumn Clematis took off up a cedar tree by the back porch. I've heard that vines can kill a tree and I'm really hoping this one does as the tree makes a terrible mess all over the porch, but I can't convince DH to take it out. I have to admit it does shade the porch and keep the sun from coming in so much in the summer, but I'm sure we could find a way to manage that until something better could be grown. Sorry about the ugly cords. I had them out to charge a battery and left them hanging out in the picture.

Willow

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:26 AM

Post #7350803

Willowwind, That spot looks very lovely. An inviting place to sit.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:28 AM

Post #7350816

Here are a couple from the year before that probably occurred last spring/early summer too, but I just wasn't out to see them. The plants are all in their same places so I'll pretend like this is last summer's. I'm afraid I haven't been good about marking all my plants so I'm not sure what lilies these are.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:33 AM

Post #7350829

Willowwind, that's a lovely combination. Is the blue Larkspur?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:37 AM

Post #7350839

Gorgeous!
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:43 AM

Post #7350853

I do know these...a ballerina rose with Ville de Lyon clematis growing through. One of my favorite combinations.

Willow

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:45 AM

Post #7350858

That is very very pretty.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:48 AM

Post #7350864

Thanks. It's amazing sometimes what happens without fully planning it Sometimes I get things put together nicely on purpose, but as often as not they just kind of evolve on their own.

Stormy, I love your spring bulbs. Do you lift them after blooming or just plant around them? I'd love to have mine that thick, but then I end up digging into them when I'm trying to put in other things, especially in the fall. Guess I need to draw maps.

Willow
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:53 AM

Post #7350874

Willow, I leave them in the ground. My beds are full of bulb markers. I could never lift them There are many thousands of bulbs here.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:38 AM

Post #7350954

Well they're certainly beautiful. I'm hoping to start getting mine marked next spring as they come up. You must really look forward to spring with such a show in store!
Oh, and yes that is blue larkspur with the lilies...it's so pretty with so many things, but I have to watch that it doesn't seed where the animals might graze as it is poisonous.
Willow
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
6:26 AM

Post #7351016

Thank you, Willow. This year I added, just in "shoes and socks" type of bulbs over 2000 tiny blue underplantings of muscari, squill and chionodoxa. I also added another 2000 or so larger bulbs of all types.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
9:53 AM

Post #7351147

Stormy! Thats a beautiful Butterfly Bench in your May picture.
Polly! A word of encouragment from me here. I was dubious about poppy success until it worked for me this year.
Just a note of early spring weeding tasks.The germinated poppies have bluegreen deep cut leaves, and dont Preen before or after you sow the seeds like I did. I took out a bunch of Black poppy seeds last fall.
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2009
2:10 PM

Post #7351515

Willow

Love the larkspur with the lilies. I was thinking the blue larkspur would be great with my Elodie lily pictured here.

Mary - I like your butterfly bench too. I am already looking forward to pictures next year with the underplantings of muscari, squill and chionodoxa. That will be beautiful!

Carolyn

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
2:31 PM

Post #7351575

I love all those spring bulbs.The squills just run wild.
I planted Anemone Blandas with tulips.Saw it in J.Sheepers catalogue.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 9, 2009
3:31 PM

Post #7351773

The lilies and larkspur are delightful companions - wonderful photo! Love the clematis and the Ballerina rose as well.

stormy - we can all look forward to your spring show. It should be wonderful.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
3:44 PM

Post #7351832

Thanks, everyone. The bench is actually a hummingbird, but everybody thinks it's a butterfly. I chose the hummingbird, not only because of love for that creature, but all of the butterfly benches that I looked at were more narrow and shallow. I wanted a bench where 2 could sit comfortably. I love to sit there in the spring and enjoy the bulb show.

GE, I've decided that I'm not going to put down an antigerminator until July. I figure that will give all scattered seeds and reseeders a chance to start. This will take a lot of courage on my part as I still get a lot of weeds even with using stuff like Preen. Maybe when my beds fill in a little more, it won't be so bad. Because of the voles, I have to keep the mulching pretty light.

Willow, are your Larkspur a perennial variety?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
3:49 PM

Post #7351843

Stormy! good luck it will be a beautiful serene spot.I can hear Orioles in the dappled shade.

Willow! Yes what variety larkspur is that.
I have ordered dark blue from Fragrentpaths.I read larkspur isnt a perennial but reseeds and gives the illusion of comming up in the same place year after year.
I also have a variety on my saved cart at Bluestone.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
3:58 PM

Post #7351872

This variety of Larkspur looked interesting to me. I put in 3 of these this summer. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/199485/

I also added some of this annual form, although the nursery was selling it as a perennial. We'll see if it comes back. I liked it's short size.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155296/

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:09 PM

Post #7351896

I have this one on order from Bluestone
Delph,grandiflorum Blue Butterfly

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:29 PM

Post #7351977

Carolyn, That Elodie Lily is very pretty. Is that an Asiatic? Is it more pink or peach?

2000 of those little mixed blue bulbs didn't even put a dent in underplanting all of the tulips and daffs. But it will put spots of color through out the beds. I will have to keep adding more each year.

SallyG gave me the idea of planting 1 or 2 Muscari in with every tulip or daff planting to be able to use the reemerged fall foliage as a marker for the other bulbs. I plan on planting muscari in the spring too, so I can cover a lot of the bulbs that have lost their markers.

Ge, The anemones are very nice too. I had some come up for the first time this past spring. I'm waiting to see how they look this spring before adding more. I was able to buy white ones individually, but the other colors all came in mixes. Mixes don't appeal to me, but I tried a few.

That tulip bed is 150 x 30'. It takes a lot of bulbs to fill it. This year I added bulbs on the outside of the tree line and mixed in a lot of red & white striped tulips through out the bed and added more daffs to prolong their season.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
4:29 PM

Post #7351981

Ge, That's a pretty one. How tall does it get?

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 9, 2009
4:31 PM

Post #7351991

Lovely pictures All. Such pretty sweeps of color. I love these gold Lycoris. and unfortunately so do the Lubber grasshoppers

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:32 PM

Post #7351992

the bluestone one is only 14 inches.I dont think I will get it.
The Anemone blandas spread. Check this spring to see if your patch has enlarged .

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 9, 2009
4:34 PM

Post #7352006

This is one thing I am happy winter is chasing away...the Eastern Lubber

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:37 PM

Post #7352014

ghaaaak

themoonhowl

themoonhowl
Prairieville, LA
(Zone 9a)

December 9, 2009
4:41 PM

Post #7352030

These critters eat bulbs...amaryllis, lycoris, lily, crinum, glads...lost all my muscari to them...and they get big...used to be afraid of them, but anger took care of that...grin. Keep my pruners in my pocket any time I am outside...dead and I don't have to touch them...grin
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:43 PM

Post #7352041

ge and Stormy, I believe that larkspur was just from a generic mixed larkspur packet I had scattered in one of the wilder corners. I really liked the blue so saved the seed specifically from those and rescattered around the lilies. Usually you still come up with a variety of colors, I guess due to cross pollination, but these seemed to come up pretty true. I have some pink larkspur that have also stayed truer to parent, but I know that doesn't always work. If you want perennial though, I believe there are some of the delphinium that grow more like an annual larkspur in form...maybe Blue Mirror or Blue Butterfly...but will come back like a perennial, and of course have that incredible blue.

Wow Stormy! you've done an awfully lot of bulb planting. Where do you get your bulbs in such quantities? How do you deal with dying foliage when your other plants are coming up? I have so much to learn!

Carolyn, I love your Elodie lily. I've seen it in catalogs and it looks like it really is a pretty one. I think the larkspur would be gorgeous with it.

Does anyone know what this iris might be? I received it from a friend who couldn't remember the name and it's multiplied really well, but I don't know how to address it, other than "Sweetie", when I'm in the garden.

Willow

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:43 PM

Post #7352042

Absolutely gorgeous beds, Mary! have you considered putting scilla in. Mine spread like crazy, but don't seem hindered at all by the perennials that come up after them. The scilla campanulata Sky Blue is the one I have. Or is that what you ar calling squill? I'm not too familiar with the common names on things. If you don't have Sky Blue, I'd be more than happy to send you down a large clump this spring, with whatever else it is I was going to send you (I have it on my calendar).

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:47 PM

Post #7352059

Thanks WILLow.
I had Blue Butterfly on order but its 14 inches tall and I wanted something taller.Seeds are comming from Fragrant paths as soon as they get my order.
They are hard to find.The pale blues are in the usual shops ThomMorg,Annies,Burpees.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:49 PM

Post #7352067

Did you check Stokes? I'm always forgetting about them, and i love the company.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:50 PM

Post #7352070

I'll give a look
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
4:59 PM

Post #7352097

I know some of my posts sound really disjointed, but my silly dial-up takes about 20-30 minutes to upload a picture, so from the time I start 'til I get it up I can sound like I've really lost track of what's going on...which I guess I have. Oh well...such is life. At least it's not actually my brain...yet!

Stormy, I've not heard of "shoes and socks" bulbs, what are those. I love the idea of the muscari as bulb markers, that's brilliant. I have thousands of those so it would be quite easy to do. Thanks!



stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
5:01 PM

Post #7352105

Moonhowl, Gorgeous Lycoris and UGLY bug. Glad he doesn't live here. Bulb eating bugs would just be too much. The voles are bad enough!! Love your defensive technique!

Willow, That Iris is gorgeous and there are several that look like that. I would post it on the Iris forum and ask.

I buy bulbs from lots of different places, but yes, always in large quantities. I shop each variety for price because I find that a supplier who is cheap on one variety is often expensive on another. It's very confusing when they all start coming in, because their "Partners" might come in weeks apart from two different companies. It makes the planting season challenging, but at least they don't have to be watered while waiting!

Polly, Thank you. I added a few hundred Scilla "Spring Beauty" this fall in my beds around the house. I didn't want muscari there, because I find the foliage makes those areas look messy.

Willow, I just let the foliage stay until it dies. I cut all of the spent bloom stalks right away, but tolerate the messy foliage. The Alliums, Iris, Poppy, Hosta and other emerging perennial foliage helps to hide it, but it does take some tolerating. It really is necessary, especially with the tulips to leave it alone, unwrapped to try to assure that they return.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
5:10 PM

Post #7352128

Polly, Thank you, yes I would love some of your Scilla (Squill). That is so nice of you. It will take a number of years to cover all of this area. That tulip bed is my small one.

Willow, shoes and socks just means planting shorter smaller blooms to grow at the base of the larger plants. With bulbs, generally, you can just add some of the smaller bulbs in the same holes, on top of the other bulbs as they don't need to be planted so deeply.

My friend must have a few million muscari on her property and whenever she brings me a plant from her garden, I usually find 25 or 30 muscari bulbs wrapped up in the roots. I separate them and plant them anywhere I see bulb markers.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:11 PM

Post #7352133

Thanks Stormy. I've always left my foliage too, but I don't have anywhere close to the quantity of bulbs you do. They're absolutely beautiful. I'm surprised you don't have accidents due to people taling too good a look. I've never had trouble with bulb munchers, that I know of so I should try more.

Oh moonhowl, that's one ugly hopper. I thought we had every type that could hop, but I've never seen one that big, certainly nothing that eats bulbs. I get frustrated with them eating many of the mid-late summer flowers and foliage, but they don't seem to keep things from coming back. We entertain ourselves on summer evenings by catching them and throwing them to the chickens. He he he!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:12 PM

Post #7352136

Polly I ordered a 2010 catalogue from Stokes,they didnt have the larkspur variety I wanted,just lilac and pink.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 9, 2009
5:19 PM

Post #7352157

Thank you, Willow. The rush hour traffic always backs up along there and the commuters often talk to me when I'm working out there. Last year, one of them put some photos that they took in my mail box. I have come home to find a couple of people out there with cameras.

There used to be a bus stop on my corner and the folks waiting for the bus used to give me a daily running commentary on my plantings!! I was beginning to think I was community gardening. LOL
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:25 PM

Post #7352179

OK, Mary, I have you down for scilla and Aichi, LOL.

I don't know why i always forget about Stokes, Jo Ann. I love the company. They are local. the seeds always have good germination. I need a large amount of forget me not seeds for my creek beds, I'll check them.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:28 PM

Post #7352185

Just checked and Stokes doesn' have the forget me nots I want. They are the biennial kind that seed all over the place. Anyone know the variety?
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:28 PM

Post #7352187

That's funny...but if ever got stuck in rush hour trafic I'd certainly like something beautiful to look at. You've given "the commute home" a personal touch! The only things we get stuck behind out here are slow moving farm equipment and an occasional buggy out around Yoder. I did, one year, find pictures from my place in a locally produced calendar. That was kind of a shock! You may have to check out the calandars produced in your area.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:31 PM

Post #7352195

ge, where is Fragrant Paths out of? I tried to look it up but couldn't find anything...do you have a website?

Willow

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
5:47 PM

Post #7352238

Here it is
http://www.fragrantpathseeds.com/product_info.php?products_id=175&osCsid=8bae0c07380ff231a26d796569806a98
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2009
5:51 PM

Post #7352254

I believe Elodie is an asiatic lily. I got her in one of bleeks' co ops. The color is a bit lighter than what the picture shows.

I generally get my seeds from Swallowtail seeds... I was looking and they do have the larkspur colors split out... I might have to put in another order with them...

Willow - I have iris similar to yours as well, but I don't think it is the same thing. Yours' is very pretty though.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
6:02 PM

Post #7352275

Oh thank you ge, this looks like delicious perusing for this afternoon! :) I'll have to get a good cup of coffee or tea and some pumpkin bread to munch while I shop...just can't let DH know I have drinks by the computer! And I wonder why my weight doesn't go down.

Carolyn, I have my eye on some things from Swallowtail seeds too. They have some seeds I want to get going for hummingbirds. I just had my first time keeping some as they migrated through and I'm hoplessly hooked. From my years in the mountains, I probably miss the hummers the most. I can keep calling this iris "Sweetie", as she is beautiful and very healthy and hardy. My friend said she knew it was originally named, but couldn't remember what. I'm afraid I'm often guilty of not remembering either. I'm going to take Pirl's advice this year and use my camara to help my memory...of course I still have to write the name down, but it will certainly be easier.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
6:07 PM

Post #7352281

I have sent 2 orders to Swallow Tail,they are fast with response.
Fragrantpaths is snailmail for sending the print on line order.But its what I want.
I'll give Swallowtail a look.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
6:13 PM

Post #7352299

Nope Swallowtail 's larkspur are too dark.
Is it the time of year that makes finding these seeds so hard?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
6:23 PM

Post #7352325

http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/SHADEEAST2009

http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/Bathroom2009
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 9, 2009
7:05 PM

Post #7352464

GE

gorgeous dahlia on the first set of pictures... what is the flower in picture #17 of the second set of pictures? I like that one alot too.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 9, 2009
7:08 PM

Post #7352472

If you mean the magenta flower #16 its Verbascum
#17is a collage
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
5:00 AM

Post #7354403

GE, I love that combination of the wine colored Monarda and the white bell like flowers.

I also love your White Henry.

This message was edited Dec 10, 2009 12:04 AM
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
9:23 AM

Post #7354587

GE -

you are right, it is #16 in the second sequence. It is beautiful - I love the color. What kind of verbascum? It is very pretty and I would like to get some.

Beautiful pictures. I am glad you shared them with us.
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
9:37 AM

Post #7354593

This is a really neat thread...harkens back before the freeze... Queen Kong ...early August.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
10:25 AM

Post #7354610

Its Verbascum Violet
http://www.bluestoneperennials.com/b/bp/VEVIS.html
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
10:32 AM

Post #7354617

Gorgeous color! Thank you :-)

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
10:39 AM

Post #7354623

I am not sure if the plant is steril or not.Second year for it here so no babies yet that I noticed this spring and then I am always planting so might have disturbed whatever there were.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
1:25 PM

Post #7354796

jmorth, that is a beautiful lily. It looks quite tall, but might be just due to angle of the photo...how tall is it? The color is really striking.

Willow

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:08 PM

Post #7354917

Its still snowing and blowing so i made another album of the best of collages for 2009
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/BESTOFCOLLAGES2009?authkey=Gv1sRgCJGnxbj-xvTQBw
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:10 PM

Post #7354925

Willow, this Iris looks kinda like yours. I received it in a trade a couple of years ago, and like you, didn't keep track of the name.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:11 PM

Post #7354927

Is it a TBI?
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:14 PM

Post #7354940

Yep, its a TBI :-)

Its so cold, windy, and snowy here, so this thread is a breath of fresh air! Sharing a little springtime:

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:20 PM

Post #7354955

Not a good pic, but I was focusing on an extremely late bloom I had on an Iris, way up into late June. It was really fun to see a bearded Iris blooming with all the Poppies and early summer flowers.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:24 PM

Post #7354971

That was in my butterfly-hummingbird garden, where anything goes, all colors and things can reseed with reckless abandon.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:30 PM

Post #7354981

Your poppies are sweet.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
2:45 PM

Post #7355012

jmorth, Queen Kong has been on my wish list. How old and tall is yours?

Gemini, reckless abandon and butterflies are a great combination!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
2:52 PM

Post #7355034

Ge, Wonderful photos and collages. What are the names of the yellow lily in #9 and the salmon one in #20? They are both very beautiful.

That Ratibidia in #17 is very sweet. I like the color combinations that you put together for the collages.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:53 PM

Post #7355036

Sounds like a movie title LOL
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:55 PM

Post #7355046

Poppies and lychnis. Great combo, now I need lychnis to put out with the poppies Jo Ann enabled me to buy. Pretty little tulip too.

Love that Queen Kong!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
2:57 PM

Post #7355050

Thanks stormy
The yellow lily in #9 is Sunny Crown asiatic
# 20 is First Crown OT.
It is a beautiful lily and hopes feo even better next year.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
2:57 PM

Post #7355052

Oh and GE, I really enjoyed the different copper hued Tulips.

Polly, I thought the same about that combo too.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:00 PM

Post #7355062

Polly you can sow lychnis seeds too.
Everyone I have to put in a disclaimer here,NOT all the flowers in the collages are mine.
Some of you may recognise Snowpeaks dwarf iris.

I keep a pic file on everything I buy and create combos from them.
The Tulip pics are from the dealers ,also on file so I can color match with Heucheras and other spring plants.

This message was edited Dec 10, 2009 10:01 AM
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
3:00 PM

Post #7355066

Ge, you're right! Maybe we DGers could make the movie. Thanks, I was hoping that was First Crown.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:02 PM

Post #7355069

I guarantee Dee won't mind you showing pictures of her irises.

Alright, JoAnn, and what else should I be getting seeds of, you enabler, you.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:21 PM

Post #7355175

I am only buying seeds I can early-winter sow or put directly in the ground where they will gro.
I have a nice collection of Nastuerteums for container combos with coleus.
Just placed an order w/Dianes for Zinnia Lilliput and larkspur galalie its tall and bright blue, also Black eyed susan vine.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
3:26 PM

Post #7355193

Ge, Do you have a link to that site?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:30 PM

Post #7355205

You can find Diane in Garden Watchdog
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:31 PM

Post #7355210

I'm looking for some airy things to self sow in the lily beds. That's why I want the forget me nots, plus I'll be putting them along the creek. And I succumbed to poppies, even though they aren't airy.

I had a woman contact me from South Africa and said she would send me some Dutch forget me not seeds. Now how wonderful is that! Daves Garden is wonderful!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:33 PM

Post #7355219

Poppies get airy.
There are some dwarf cosmos varieties and taller ones too for airyness,is that a word?
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:35 PM

Post #7355231

Airyness sounds good to me.

I do cosmos. I already have them self seeding in that bed. I had cleome, but gosh I hat the pricker stickers.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
3:57 PM

Post #7355301

I dont like cleomes for that reason.I grew them here the first year and needed a jackhammer to get the huge rootball out.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
4:58 PM

Post #7355505

Polly, do you grow blue Flax? Its airy and such a pretty blue; I've got it with yellow and white OT Lilies. Its a short lived perennial that reseeds.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
5:03 PM

Post #7355526

No, I don't. Pretty. I'll check into that one. Thanks.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
5:13 PM

Post #7355553

Oh, and I just thought of another you may like, the Chinese Forget-me-not, Cynoglossum amabile. It's a reseeding annual and gets about 12-18" tall, and is a striking azure blue. I wish I had a good pic of just the Cynoglossum, but you can get a good idea from this pic with a stem of them in front of the Daisies.

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
5:21 PM

Post #7355581

stormyla, willowwind - Queen Kong is in her 3rd year and stands around 5' tall. A thin stake assits. Lily came from Buggy Crazy. I mistakenly said early August, it initiated bloom this year on July 7th

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
5:31 PM

Post #7355607

I noticed some poppy talk earlier, these are annual self-seeders blooming in June -

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
5:33 PM

Post #7355613

my favorite poppy pic -

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
5:34 PM

Post #7355615

beautiful jmorth
How many years have they been self sowing there?
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
6:02 PM

Post #7355691

4 or 5, got them orginally from a DGer in Georgia.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
6:08 PM

Post #7355705

Those poppies are great, jmorth. I've never grown annual ones. Maybe I should try some. They are thinner stemmed than the perennial OP's. Can they take some wind and dry soil?

I love that one in front of the Artemisia.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
6:09 PM

Post #7355709

Mine tolerate lots of wind and dry soil. They also bloom after the perennial types and extend the Poppy season.
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
8:45 PM

Post #7356260

Definately wind-hardy.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
9:48 PM

Post #7356488

I've read about the Chinese forget me nots, Neal. I think I'll have to try those too. Thanks.

Lovely poppies
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
9:55 PM

Post #7356510

I've got lots of seeds of Cynoglossum amabile, and maybe some other things you may like too. I've got plenty of mixed Shirley Poppy seeds and all red Shirley Poppies. Hmmm...seems I should have some P.somniferum I saved too. I'll be looking through the seeds and putting some goodies together for ya :-)
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 10, 2009
9:58 PM

Post #7356519

I've Poppy somniferum seed too if so desired, d-mail me.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
10:15 PM

Post #7356556

This annual Poppy is just amazing.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/18652/

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
10:47 PM

Post #7356649

wow
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
10:48 PM

Post #7356655

Beautiful, beautiful pictures. I love blooming with reckless abandon! I think the poppies are quite airy...at least the annual ones. They grow well for me here, but quit as soon as things warm up too much, so seeding them in early would be good for me too. How about columbine for reseeding airiness, I've loved the way they look around our old playhouse. Also guara (not sure of the spelling) which always remind me of clusters of butterflies. I've grown those from seed without much difficulty and they have an airy look clear through the summer.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:01 PM

Post #7356679

Willow, I see we're birds of a feather! That's beautiful!

I found the P.somniferum seeds I saved, but for some reason I mixed them. They're mostly this salmon pink frilled one.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
11:10 PM

Post #7356702

Willow & Gemini, Those are both beautiful plantings.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:19 PM

Post #7356733

Oh gemini, we certainly do seem to think along the same lines. Those are beautiful. I really love the frilly pink ones. Tansy is another one I love for the airy look. It's tiny daisies are so pretty with roses, and the grey-green foliage is beautiful once the blooms wear out. I think it overseeds for some people, but I haven't had trouble with too much, just enough to keep it going.

jmorth, no wonder it's called Queen Kong at 5 ft. I would have to stake it here as we can get quite windy, but it really is a beauty. It would definitly be worth the time.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:19 PM

Post #7356734

Viewing pics and going through those I've taken over the season are making me ache for spring- this cold, windy weather we're getting is nasty!

The bed was weedy when I took this, but I find myself staring longingly at this pic:

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 10, 2009
11:22 PM

Post #7356756

LOL, I found yet 2 more plant stakes in the garden yesterday. I have to stake most of my lilies. I quit growing Glads because I didn't like them enough for all of the staking they required. But, I'll stake lilies all day!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:23 PM

Post #7356761

Beautiful plantings! And Neal, you've got so much in there I doubt you could spot out a weed.

Thank you, I would love some seeds, Neal. Mixed poppies is great. I like the salmon one.

Jmorth, I will dmail you. Thanks.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:41 PM

Post #7356825

That's beautiful too. Sorry your weather is so bad...I'm afraid you got it from us. We're sunny and clear now, but were down to 2 degrees this morning. Our water froze so DH had to run home to thaw things out in the pumphouse, but I did get my morning coffee made just before it shut off. Here's a bed by our chickenhouse from 2008. I lost the Heritage rose last spring in a late freeze, really frustrating, but I've replaced it with a Fairy, that isn't so striking color-wise, but will be much tougher.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:41 PM

Post #7356830

Stormy, I grow very few glads for the same reason- can't deal with the flopping. But those are a dwarf, hardy Glad- I never have to stake them. I think the name is 'Atom'.

Thanks Polly, so true, when you try to make it all look as though Mother Nature had planted it, the weeds are definitely less noticeable- thank goodness, LOL. .
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:45 PM

Post #7356845

Beautiful willowind!

We have a well, too, but the pump is in a heated garage, luckily. They are a bear to prime, let me tell you, so I really hate when something happens. I would love an immersible pump, but the well is around 400 feet from the house, in the creek, and impossible to get to in the winter if anything went wrong with the pump.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:51 PM

Post #7356865

Whew, Polly!...that would be tough. Ours is just about 30 yds. from the house. We don't have trouble too often, and keep a heat light on it, but when it gets down to zero-ish, even that won't do if a wind comes up. Sometimes its frustrating, but at least there's no water bill.

Gemini, a glad that didn't need staking would be fun to try. Do you know where you found it?
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:55 PM

Post #7356883

How lovely! And what a shame to lose that big 'Heritage' rose! 'The Fairy' is a great rose though, and blooms her heart out.

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pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 10, 2009
11:57 PM

Post #7356889

As long as it's working well it's fine. And in the summer we can get to it to have water delivered if we run low, which we have on a couple of occassions, when something happened, like a hose broke. But I dread the foot valve going. It has gone twice, never during the winter though.

We don't have any other water available here, so can't even get city water.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
12:03 AM

Post #7356908

I believe those came from a bloomingbulb co op, but I believe eflowergarden sells them in spring too, and they're a better supplier.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
12:06 AM

Post #7356914

How nice to have untainted water! In summer ours smells like bleach sometimes.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
12:18 AM

Post #7356957

Gemini, They are very nice Glads and so are those poppies. I had bought some dwarf hardy glads. I think they were called "redwing". They were red with white picotee margins. They did not overwinter or the voles got them, not sure which.

Those late freezes last year were really tough on all of the shrubs.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
12:28 AM

Post #7357011

I love having the well water, but we have some overflow issues when we have a lot of rain that can worry me. We have a filter on the house water, and a reverse osmosis pump for our drinking water, but now that we have a paddock on the north side of the barn some of the overflow is not so healthy I'm afraid. The good thing is that DH works in town and we can just bring home a couple of jugs of town water if needed. Our worst problems have been ice storms. We have a generator for the house so we can keep heat, freezer and refridgerator working if the wires are down, but we don't have a way to get power out to the pumphouse, which of course has an electric pump, so we're without water. We have just brought in big jugs and caught melt-off for the animals. 4 years ago we had to go 11 days without power, and that got really old!

Thanks for the glad source. I'll watch for them this spring.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
12:33 AM

Post #7357027

Willow, Seems like it would be almost worth getting a very small generator to keep out there.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
1:46 AM

Post #7357316

We've been here 20 years. And never had our water tested. I'm afraid what I would find if we did. But it's spring fed, and it's cold as heck, even in summer, and delicious. And the creek it's in runs through our 63 acres to get here, so no one polluting it along the way, and before that it's all forest. We do have a house filter just to take out sediment. Our worst problem is ice storms also. We were stranded unable to get out for ten days (you beat me by one, willowind) a few years ago. We have a generator and a fireplace, but it was very inconvenient. we didn't have nearly enough gas for the generator, so just ran things off and on.

Country living!
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
2:28 AM

Post #7357473

Amen!...but I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. Well maybe during ice storms. I had to get up at 4:00 AM to get into town, take a shower at work and be on the floor for report at 6. Ugh!

Stormy, we've talked about getting another, but you know how that goes...seems like there's always something else needed ahead of it. Oh well, at least I know the routine. Funny to think that even in the 40's and 50's there were many people who still hadn't graduated to rural power.

stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
6:14 AM

Post #7357987

My grandparents in the Ozarks still brought water into their house from a yard pump in 1961. It was my first visit there and I was fascinated. They also still used an outhouse, equally fascinating.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
10:26 AM

Post #7358122

Great gardens willow and gemini-sage.
Gemini! I believe you posted a pic of pink Somnifariums growing with Lilies a couple of years ago.It has been my goal to have that eversince.
I'm almost there.
It takes a number of years for poppies to self sow that thick from a 100 seed pack from a garden store.
These pictures are wonderful.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
2:12 PM

Post #7358520

Thanks Gen! Ya know, if the Poppies are happy with the spot, they reseed like mad the 2nd year. Come to think of it, the pink ones in the above pic are 2nd year volunteers, all from a few pinches of seed tossed out in '07.

I just found a better pic of the Iris that is similar to Willow's.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
2:50 PM

Post #7358624

Another pic that makes me long for warm weather...

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
3:14 PM

Post #7358688

Your gardens are wonderful Gem.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
3:48 PM

Post #7358754

Yes, they are!
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:13 PM

Post #7358819

Thanks so much! This was my 3rd year with this garden, and it seems my nose was pointed at the ground for most of the first 2 years. Then this spring and summer, blooms were often so abundant I was almost overwhelmed! In May and June I just meandered around with a grin I couldn't wipe off, LOL.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:14 PM

Post #7358824

Same here gem.Everything DGers encouraged me to do was returned 10000% in decksitting all summer.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
4:28 PM

Post #7358860

Deck sitting, now that's something I haven't done in 4 years!! I went to the doctor this week and she told me that I had a vitamin D deficiency and that I needed to spend more time outdoors. What??? Must be a by product of shade gardening!! LOL

I have lots of red Monarda, but this year I finally found one that doesn't flop. I have a whole lot of Jacob Cline and also Fireball, which I love, but they always flop. This one was simply labeled as Monarda Didyma and stood tall and straight all summer.

The Monardas (with shearing) were great rebloomers all summer.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:41 PM

Post #7358895

I have some and didnt know about the sheering.
My red is Colraine and I also have Raspberry wine,Both are floppers.
These are both looking alike but pix are funny that way.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:41 PM

Post #7358896

Stormy, I've been reading where some members are pinching tall or flopping Monardas back for shorter, bushier growth with success. I'm considering only pinching the stems on the outside of the clump, thinking that may provide enough support for the taller, inner stems. I love watching the hummingbirds fight over them!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:44 PM

Post #7358902

Good advise Gem
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:52 PM

Post #7358929

Gen, I've seen where folks have done that kind of pinching with tall Phlox, and it makes for a very nicely shaped clump. I'm hoping it will do the same thing to Monarda.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
4:56 PM

Post #7358936

Gemini, I didn't completely shear them.. I selectively cut earlier blooming stems down to about a foot in height. I remember reading some years back, that you should always divide the outsides of the clumps to keep the centers from dying out. I have been doing that and spreading them throughout the beds. But also, I find the shadier the spot, the more they flop.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:57 PM

Post #7358945

The deer ate some of the tops of my Phlox David this spring.The plant bloomed anyway ,the blooms were smaller.Looked good anyway.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
4:58 PM

Post #7358947

GE, I remember seeing that Monarda & White Lily combo in one of your collages and thought how much I liked the two of them together.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:59 PM

Post #7358953

Stormy, from what I gathered (from a thread on the Perennials Forum about pinching), it was a matter of pinching stems back when they were about 18" tall (before they started blooming), stimulating them to grow bushy side sprouts.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
4:59 PM

Post #7358955

Stormy I believe they are looking for sunlight,mine flop in part sun ,they are at the edge of the border and I have a piece of border decore to keep them from overhanging too much.
I will try the pinch next year.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
5:00 PM

Post #7358956

Those are gorgeous, Gen!
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
5:00 PM

Post #7358957

Gemini, maybe I'll try that with some of the ones growing in a lot of shade and see if it helps. Thanks for the tip!
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:14 PM

Post #7359314

Some bee balm from June

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:16 PM

Post #7359317

Crimson Pixie field

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:17 PM

Post #7359320

Crimson Pixie and neighbor 'Lorraine Sunshine'

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:18 PM

Post #7359324

Trumpet Lily towering over Asiatics

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
7:26 PM

Post #7359340

nice jmorth.I have terrible luck with Lorraine Sun It just doesnt like it here. I have killed 3 plants so I wont bother with it anymore.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
7:28 PM

Post #7359348

OK jmorth, now you've really got us going with all of that sunshine! I love your bold vivid colors.

Is Lorraine Sunshine a Cosmos?

How tall is Crimson Pixie?

What's the name of your trumpet?
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
7:33 PM

Post #7359355

I have this shorter border lily which increases very well. I'm looking to add more of the shorter lilies next year, both in the Asiatics and Orientals.

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:42 PM

Post #7359380

Ge, sorry to hear of your results...if I rtemember correctly, mine started with a leaf cutting and it's been very successful here. It's a self-seeding perennial - Heliopsis helianthoides -'Lorraine Sunshine' (the longest blooming daisy in garden).
Crimson is appx. 18-20".+
Trumpet's name - not sure, someone once suggested 'Pink Perfection'.
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
7:48 PM

Post #7359397

here's another Asiatic 'field' - Lollipop.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
7:55 PM

Post #7359416

Jmorth, that trumpet does look like Pink Perfection. I ordered some seeds from the Summerhill co-op for a variegated Heliopsis, but it didn't specify the variety. Yours looks shorter than the ones I've seen. How tall is it?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
7:59 PM

Post #7359424

Lorraine Sunshine isnt a coleus.
Lily pink perfection.
I have Lollipops and am trying to keep up with the bulb explosion,they really multiply fast.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:07 PM

Post #7359450

jmorth, Lorraine Sunshine with Crimson Pixie is a wonderful pairing!
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
8:08 PM

Post #7359454

ah ha! here,s why I hesitate to testify my 'Pink Perfection' is indeed Pink Perfection -

Thanks gemini.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:11 PM

Post #7359457

Nice trumpets
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
8:20 PM

Post #7359489

Lorraine is taller than the Crimsons. Perhaps 24 to 30".

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jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
8:21 PM

Post #7359493

ge, how tall is your PP?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:23 PM

Post #7359501

Its new had planted the bulbs this fall.J.Scheepers says its 4-6 feet.
jmorth
Divernon, IL
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
8:26 PM

Post #7359505

Mines 6' plus.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:30 PM

Post #7359511

Yipes.I had originally planned it for the end of the deck but didnt want to take any chances so put it in the garden.
This Deckend garden will be Lilies Samure,Mona Lisa(short) Algarve asiatic

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:31 PM

Post #7359512

These are some of the lilies.The Muscadets were moved.There are Lollipops in there

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:35 PM

Post #7359523

Gen, some tall trumpets could be really nice by the deck there- they'd be right at nose level when you're on the deck!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
8:41 PM

Post #7359536

I have a note that Rosellas Dream is there also.
There are lilies crammed into that short spot.
I bought DL's from B&D half price sale this summer and there were 2 lily bulbs in with one of the bunches.They bare in there too.
I cant wait to see if they come up AND what color they are.
If the stars were aligned right when I planted them they will be pinks and whites.

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stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
8:50 PM

Post #7359567

I love Muscadet. Jmorth, Your trumpet could be Regale. Thanks for the info on the Heliopsis. I was worried that mine were going to be short. It didn't give any info, but I had never seen a short one.

Heliopsis also blooms fabulously all summer long in shade. We'll see if the varigated ones do too.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
8:58 PM

Post #7359592

I mentioned earlier a Lobelia Cardinalis with black stems. I could only find a photo of a lone bloom. Here is "Queen Victoria".

This lobelia has purple /maroon foliage.

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bluespiral

bluespiral

(Zone 7a)

December 11, 2009
9:02 PM

Post #7359600

new thread for slow-dial-uppers?
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 11, 2009
9:20 PM

Post #7359644

This is Pirl's thread. Maybe she'll come along and start one.

GE, I have my Phlox David planted along side Phlox Starfire. This year I decided to add some blue Phlox. The blue Phlox brought mildew into the bed and it spread to the other two, which never had it before. It also could be that the humidity was so high this summer.

Someone told me to spray the blue with baking soda & water. I did, but I must have used too much baking soda as it immediately wilted the foliage and I lost the blue bloom this year. Luckily, the plants survived.

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willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
9:26 PM

Post #7359663

Yes please!!!! I'm having a hard time keeping up.

Willow
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
9:46 PM

Post #7359721

My - so much information - it's taking me awhile to catch up but great reading and beautiful pictures. I'm keeping a running tab on my notepad of all the flowers I'm seeing that I want. Wish I could really send this to Santa!

Here's my memory of summer gardens from today. We will have our last fresh bacon and tomato sandwiches tonight for supper. I always hate to give up that good taste and go to store bought. We can and freeze all we can, but you can't put that on a sandwich too well!

jmorth, I would really like to try "Lorraine Sunshine" here. Kansas was made for heliopsis, though the shade might be helpful with the varigated foliage. I'll have to look for some sources. I also really love the Crimson Pixie. Since they've formed a field I'm assuming they may multiply like the Lollipops. Like ge's mine have really gone to town. I'm not complaining though, they have such a bright pretty look.

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Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 11, 2009
9:57 PM

Post #7359754

Everyone has such gorgeous gardens. I am really enjoying looking at them.

Willow - here is my iris that is like yours. It is called 'Pass the Wine'

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willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 11, 2009
11:41 PM

Post #7360018

Carolyn, that is a beautiful area. Your iris does look like mine. Gemini also has one of these mysterious beauties. "Pass the Wine" sounds good. I'll write that down with a possibly in front of it, but at least I'll know which one I'm referring to now if I put it in my notes. It multiplies really well so I will be needing to move parts of it soon.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
3:20 AM

Post #7360613

"Pass the Wine"- that rings a bell! ...I just mistyped it, and wrote "Pass the Wind" LOL!!!
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
3:29 AM

Post #7360643

Wow, go to work and miss a lot.

I love the Lollipop lilies, jmorth.

JoAnn you should consider cutting the David Phlox back each year. It looked really nice. Bushy.
stormyla
Norristown, PA
(Zone 6b)

December 12, 2009
4:26 AM

Post #7360778

Polly, When should the Phlox be cut back?
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 12, 2009
4:33 AM

Post #7360801

I was just wondering that myself...
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
4:37 AM

Post #7360818

I would say when they are around 2' tall, maybe early June for us. And I would pinch the front ones back and let the ones behind grow tall, as I think Neal said. I think you can pretty much pinch them back anytime up until they get buds, but it will delay flowering then. So at about 2' for tall ones like David.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
11:04 AM

Post #7361103

Thanks Polly,I did get split blooms where the deer had eaten them.
The Davids are in the middle if a group with Lilies behind and Husker red Penstamons in front.
I will cut at 2 feet to see what happens.There is always the possibility the Huskers wont appear this spring.I bought a 4 pack and they struggled in 3 places,lost 1 and the other 2 looked OK in October.
I cut Davids to the ground in Oct.
pollyk
Hannibal, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
2:38 PM

Post #7361384

If you still want the phlox tall, Jo, no need to pinch, but if you let them grow to about two feet, and only pinch 1/3 of the way back they will still be pretty tall.

Once you get a Husker Red Penstemon established they are very good about coming back.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 12, 2009
2:56 PM

Post #7361426

I bought 4 packs at EarlyBird on RT 13 in Ithaca.They are my fav when I visit my sister.
I also bought 2 packs of Agastache Apache Sunset.All have survived and havnt disapointed me,I love them in the DL's and Liliums.
cedarcottage
Madison, MS

December 14, 2009
7:28 AM

Post #7366829

Hi ya'll

Gemini-sage and Willowind- I love the free flow of your plants, so beautiful-- it is like one color flows so easy to another. I wish I had you guys around for input and support-- I'm new at creating a garden, it seems as if it is so easy for you.

I just love all the beautiful pictures that this group has posted,


Thank you, thank you.

Cedar cottage.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2009
10:30 AM

Post #7366962

I had the same problem 2 years ago.
The influence here will help you achieve what you want.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2009
12:27 PM

Post #7367121

Thanks cedar, but really, its just a matter of trial and error. Every summer I'm out there digging something up and moving it (at the wrong time of year) because it just doesn't work visually. My gardens here are 3 years in the making, and at first everything came from my old garden. While I did know all the plants well at that time, some of them changed their habits due to the environment change, and didn't quite have the appearance I'd anticipated. And of course anything new purchased from a picture often looks quite different in the garden. So now I just see that as part of gardening- a constant shifting things around. And you DO have us for input and support!- just post pics and you'll get more suggestions than you'll know what to do with, LOL.
willowwind
Moundridge, KS
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2009
4:15 PM

Post #7367706

I'll certainly second Gemini's comments. The beauty of DG is that you have all kinds of people around for advice and ideas. I keep a legal pad (started out with just a little notepad) by the computer just for writing down ideas and combinations that I particularly like.

Pirl really did open a treasure chest with this thread, as you can see from the length of it. Many, many people have contributed and enjoyed each others beautiful summer gardens. I think the seed and plant companies should underwrite us as this has certainly added to my list of hopeful purchases. What a fun way to play with color, texture and size. There are so many different artists here, and different styles...that's what makes it so much fun. I'm glad you've enjoyed it cedar cottage, and hope you'll join us for more fun and learning. Believe me, there are people here who really are experts!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

December 14, 2009
4:49 PM

Post #7367804

It sure helps the winter blaaahs
Carolyn22
Athens, PA
(Zone 5b)

December 14, 2009
10:56 PM

Post #7368816

Cedar --

GE, Gemini and Willow are all right on. I cannot believe how much I have picked up from DG. I spend all winter going through other DGer's garden photos and taking ideas and inspiration and planning what I want to do as a result of their photos. I too have seed catalogs and 3x5 cards on my computer desk so I can jot things down as I go. Not only have I learned alot, but I also enjoy spending the time I cannot be in my garden in this way.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

December 23, 2009
1:18 AM

Post #7391932

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