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Carnivorous Plants: Please help beginner with VFT and pitcher plants.

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3jsmom31
zone 6a, KY

December 2, 2009
7:49 PM

Post #7329099

I got a VFT in early fall, from Lowe's. A cp grower told me that they usually die because of the way they are treated and the directions are all wrong for what the plant needs. So, I slowly acclimated it to more light and being in the air, kind of. It is still in the small pot, but is set inside the mini bog of sphagnum and is now residing in a western window close to the glass so it cools down. It looks much better in some ways than it did when I got it, but I want to make sure this will be okay for it. I was trying to emulate winter dormancy, it gets chilly but warms during the day, same as zone 7.

Well, I find the cp's to be pretty fascinating, so today, at Lowe's, they had some pitchers, so I grabbed a red and purple, and have no idea what they really want, and how much to baby them to get them used to better conditions. First, does it hurt to let rain water hit the top of the plant, like over the pitchers and all? Second, are they really delicate or can I put them in shade of bigger plant for a week and then move it out to a sunny spot of it's own? I just want to give them the best chance to prosper. So please help if you can :).

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seray53

December 2, 2009
9:26 PM

Post #7329349

HI 3js

We're a bunch of newbies like you on the garden design forum in Charley's Goth and Ungoth thread. We're going through the learning curve as a group. Sharing info and CP's. The best info we've found comes from http://www.cobraplants.com/ They have YouTube videos that cover all the basics. We've all been to Lowes etc. and are working on the same problems.

At this point we've come to the conclusion that the small ones need the sun, distilled or rain water and to be outside. We've also decided to mulch heavy if they're in a bog or to bring them in if it freezes. Our plants are the same size as yours. Cuties

Join us here and we'll share what we know etc. RRM is leading the group and if you'll ask her she'll tell you what she's done with her CP's. Mechelle is in TN and Flower is in Indiana so they would probably be the closet to your zone. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1056987/
tommyr2006
Poughkeepsie, NY

December 3, 2009
11:22 AM

Post #7330869

Cool them down and eventually put them where it gets no warmer than 35-40 degrees F. but not freezing, an unheated garage for instance. Mine go in a zip lock bag and then the fridge until the end of February. Then they go in a sunny south window until all danger of frost passes.

3jsmom31
zone 6a, KY

December 3, 2009
3:26 PM

Post #7331345

I found info at this place. I bought my sundew plants from her...

http://mkfarmsofms.weebly.com/

I'll have to check out cobraplants, too.

I am a little nervous about the fridge, only because of light. Have you successfully wintered them this way in the past?
tommyr2006
Poughkeepsie, NY

December 3, 2009
5:17 PM

Post #7331699

Yes for 5 years. They don't need light when dormant.
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

December 4, 2009
8:10 PM

Post #7335372

I have 5 VFT's, and 3 pitcher plants, most new this year but a couple are what survived in a terrrium without a dormant period. I am leaving all of them out in my zone 7b-8 yard in a corner spot up against the house. If they live, I will let you know. If they don't, I will order some new early next spring and start them out right next year.
C
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

December 4, 2009
8:17 PM

Post #7335385

I am from MI originally (zone 5) and we have purple pitcher plants up there that are native, so maybe they would do fine in KY?
Cheryl
3jsmom31
zone 6a, KY

December 4, 2009
8:41 PM

Post #7335440

Thanks. I'll see if I can research it and try to get them to survive this year and plant them out next spring.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 7, 2009
8:40 PM

Post #7345899

Plant them all in a peat moss, sand mix and sit them in shallow trays of rain water outside in the sun. They love to stay moist and like full sun.

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ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

December 26, 2009
8:25 PM

Post #7399938

That is a nice size plant and the bloom is great!, Breeindy.
Nice collection.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

December 27, 2009
12:39 AM

Post #7400439

Thanks! That last pic they were looking abit scabby from winter but here they are now growing great in summer...

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ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

December 27, 2009
6:45 PM

Post #7401979

That is Gorgeous. Mine are still in their winter dormancy. Got pinestraw over them.?
Have some VFT under it too. Don't think the sundews made it but who know what Spring will have show up.
Thank you, It looks like a Rainbow Garden of CP'S. It is beautiful.
antsinmypants
Marietta, MS
(Zone 7b)

March 20, 2010
4:28 PM

Post #7643802

Can I plant my pitcher plant seeds in a shallow dish with peat, sand & rain water & set them outside to germinate?

Thank you,

ants
newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

March 20, 2010
6:59 PM

Post #7644147

I have never tried them from seed, someone else needs to give you some advice on that.
C

ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

March 21, 2010
8:08 AM

Post #7645156

Have you already had the seeds refrigerated? then yes, you should be able to.
antsinmypants
Marietta, MS
(Zone 7b)

March 26, 2010
10:29 AM

Post #7657843

No, I haven't had them in the fridge. I just got them & don't know much of anything about them other than they look really cool :) I had originally planned to put them in a spot in my back yard that is kind of wet most of the time. But it is in mostly shade under pines.

ants

ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

March 26, 2010
11:32 AM

Post #7657943

It won't hurt to try them. Sometimes I have good luck with seed, sometimes I don't. I just plant and hope for the best..
Sunshines2day
Lubbock, TX
(Zone 7a)

March 28, 2010
7:00 PM

Post #7663166

breeindy,

...you sure grow them pretty in Australia. Nice and robust-looking, healthy.

ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

March 29, 2010
2:18 PM

Post #7664881

Bree has some gorgeous plants.
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
10:28 AM

Post #7735619

For germinating Pitcher Plants (Sarracenia) you need to stratify. If you live where it is cold and wet, you can put them on a mix of peat and perlite or sand, and leave outside for the winter. If you live in a warm place like me, you can put the seeds on a paper towel, spray with rain water, spray with a fugacide like Neem, fold the paper towel, put in a ziplock and put in the fridge for three months, then put it on the correct soil mix in full sun outside, and they will germinate quickly.

Bree has gorgeous healthy plants.

ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

April 25, 2010
10:49 AM

Post #7735658

I know, aren't we all envious of Bree. Most beautiful plants ever.
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
4:59 PM

Post #7736559

Here are some of the plants at the botanical gardens where I volunteer as the curator for carnivorous plants.

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starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
5:02 PM

Post #7736566

A close up. The hard winter did good things for the plants.

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starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
5:04 PM

Post #7736573

Another view.

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ridesredmule

ridesredmule
Barnesville (Charle, GA
(Zone 8b)

April 25, 2010
6:01 PM

Post #7736747

Those are beautiful. my cp look like the light green ones. Love them .
seray53

April 25, 2010
6:51 PM

Post #7736904

Those are great pictures. Nice to see them in their bogs and doing well. It must be great to work there.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 25, 2010
7:01 PM

Post #7736924

What do you call that one with the red colored bloom? I want to find one of those to go with my green ones from RRM. Is that one of the ones Cody id buying in the co-op thingy? Do you know, RRM or Seray?
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
8:23 PM

Post #7737174

Some of the reds are S. "Judith Hindle" and some are S. "Daina's Delight" and some are S. purpurea. The yellow ones are S. flava. There's one that has red flowers that are more of an orange. I think those are the prettiest. I have no idea what it is. These plants were donated to the gardens by a hobbiest. We were so lucky to get such an amazing collection.

Here's a picture from my garden.

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starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
8:25 PM

Post #7737180

Here's my new S. leucophylla "Tarnok". Right before the tussock caterpillars decided they were lunch. :)

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newtonsthirdlaw
Arlington, TX

April 25, 2010
8:26 PM

Post #7737185

Those might be some dead caterpillars if they ate such a lovely thing at my house! The bog pics are very nice and show what the plants look like when the get what they need. I can only dream...
C
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 25, 2010
8:44 PM

Post #7737245

Does it hurt them when it rains and fills the little pool with standing water? Do you have to pour some out?
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 25, 2010
8:45 PM

Post #7737248

I'm sorry, I forgot to say how pretty they are. I love the pool for the pot to hold them.
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
8:55 PM

Post #7737279

I move the caterpillars to the compost heap. They can eat everything growing there. :) I have a live and live attitude with my critters.

The pool is perfect for the Sarracenia. Venus Flytraps don't like to get too wet, so I keep them in another container. The pool will overflow if there's too much water, and that's fine. I also have holes drilled about 1 inch below the rim. My plants are always drying out, so I am always trying to figure out how to keep them wet enough. Since they are bog plants, they like to be wet.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 25, 2010
8:59 PM

Post #7737289

OH ok and thank you. I have mine outside too but wondered if they can get too much water.
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 25, 2010
9:05 PM

Post #7737309

The parrott pitcher like to even be underwater. Very important to keep them outside. When I planted the bogs are the botanical garden, the pond liners were filled half way with way. Then I added a mix of peat and perlite. The result was like quicksand. Then I put in all the plants. They have been very happy.

WHen VFT get too much water they shrink because the roots rot.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 26, 2010
8:59 AM

Post #7738585

I have some little green cobra lilies in mine and was wondering if they get too much water if they stay out in the rain. I kept them in this pot in the greenhouse then when it warmed up a bit I put them outside but never had any before and was thinking of getting more and different ones and just didn't want to kill these. Can they all stay together in a pool and outside?

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tommyr2006
Poughkeepsie, NY

April 26, 2010
9:33 AM

Post #7738699

The cobras like cold water over their roots. They are used to growing in running streams in the N.W. U.S.
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 26, 2010
11:42 AM

Post #7739082

Thanks. Here is a bloom from one of my pitcher plants with it.

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starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

April 26, 2010
8:12 PM

Post #7740712

That's really a beautiful flower.

Here's a care sheet for cobras. Yours look wonderful.
http://cobraplant.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=77&zenid=9e8b5e0ad6b066c6250020760e188b4e
mekos
Fair Play, SC
(Zone 7b)

April 26, 2010
9:53 PM

Post #7740902

Thank you for the link. I'll copy the information so I can look back on it.

breeindy

breeindy
north coast nsw
Australia

May 3, 2010
11:32 PM

Post #7762328

THANKS everyone for your nice compliments on my cp's.
starsplitter love that leu 'tarnok' flower, so much different to normal Leu.
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 4, 2010
6:08 PM

Post #7764708

The Tarnok has a beautiful flower, but it is sterile. :(
GardenChick1982
(Becky) Gresham, OR
(Zone 8a)

May 17, 2010
12:03 AM

Post #7799650

I just started growing vft to help with the flies my fruit trees bring, after I got mine I foung a local cultivator here near portland oregon and she lets hers winter outside snow and all. I saw pics of them fully covered with snow and the next spring they where beautiful, they are on a web page titled "who says vft's can't grow in oregon" but I don't remember the url
starsplitter7
Tampa, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 17, 2010
7:06 PM

Post #7802404

The biggest problem my VFTs have is I can't keep them cold enough. I should dig them up and put them in the fridge. They would be healthier. Many Carnivorous plants are very tough.

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