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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
3:36 AM

Post #7330423

I have two purple flowering plants: one is a clinging vine and the other is a bush. Can you please tell me their scientific names?

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
3:38 AM

Post #7330432

Here's the picture of the purple clinging vine.

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Braveheartsmom
Hillsborough , NC
(Zone 7a)

December 3, 2009
5:29 AM

Post #7330649

Sorry, I can't help with the bush and the vine is too far away for me to see (like I could ID it!) LOL!
The bush is very pretty and I will be waiting to see the ID too. Your garden is gorgeous!

Jenn
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
6:35 AM

Post #7330720

Hi Jenn!
Sorry, I uploaded the wrong picture. Here's a closer shot of the clinging vine...

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tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

December 3, 2009
6:48 AM

Post #7330727

The first image looks a lot like a Melastoma, but if so I don't know which species it might be. It's not the one I'm used to - M. polyanthum). Some people confuse Melastoma and Tibouchina species, maybe this one is a Tibouchina.

The second I can't tell at all.
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
9:56 AM

Post #7330813

Hello tropicbreeze!

I googled for tibouchina pictures and , yes, they look like my purple bushes in my garden!
Thanks! :)

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
10:13 AM

Post #7330823

Hello Tropicbreeze!

I noticed that you're from Australia. I have planted mini bamboos that my supplier said originated from Australia. They have grown well in my garden and I want to propagate them. Can I simply cut them in halves?

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
10:18 AM

Post #7330825

Tropicbreeze, here's a close-up of those mini bamboos that grow into dome shape as you can see in the pictures.

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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 3, 2009
10:28 AM

Post #7330828

I think that is an affirmative on the Tibouchina.
Your vine - it's not a Bougainvillea is it? Does it have thorns?
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
10:38 AM

Post #7330839

Hello again, Dutchlady1!
Yes, they are bougainvilleas and they are in full bloom now which is giving me a big high whenever I look at them ! :)
Here's a close-up.

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 3, 2009
11:00 AM

Post #7330852

Hi Jenn again!
Here's a real close up of the purple flower clinging vine that I took this morning...
can you ID its scientific name now?

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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 3, 2009
12:42 PM

Post #7330944

I think you have Ipomoea violacea - Morning Glory. Be careful, it can be invasive.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

December 3, 2009
12:43 PM

Post #7330947

There's only 3 species of bamboo native to Australia, Neololeba atra, Mullerchloa moreheadiana and Bambusa arnhemica. I'm only familiar with Bambusa arnhemica and yours definitely doesn't look like that. Can't say about the others.
Braveheartsmom
Hillsborough , NC
(Zone 7a)

December 3, 2009
3:30 PM

Post #7331358

Aloha!

What a beautiful setting you live in - wow! I think Hetty has nailed it with the morning glory and I wish I had such pretty Tibouchina as yours - I have what I thought were Tibouchina but mine are much smaller flowered and nowhere as lush, possibly I have something else.

Love the house? with the palm ? roof and the sweet looking pup too.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

December 3, 2009
11:54 PM

Post #7332746

Braveheartsmom, it still could be a Tibouchina, there are a lot of different species. At the same time, it might be one of the Melastomas. I only heard about Tibouchina when people came here and misidentified the Melastomas. They're in the same family and do bear a resemblance.
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 4, 2009
1:37 AM

Post #7333103

Hello Braveheartsmom, Tropicbreeze and Dutchlady1!

How I wish I could have you as neighbors so I could learn a lot from your fantastic knowledge of plants...and maybe swap plants too!

Jenn, the nipa hut is actually a small resting place ( roofing is made of cogon grass) where I could catch my breath and drink fresh coconut juice ( they are coconut trees, not palm) after climbing the 97-step rustic stairway that starts behind that "sinegwelas" tree ( sorry, I don't know the scientific name of that edible fruit-bearing tree) at the back of the nipa hut :)

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 4, 2009
1:50 AM

Post #7333159

Jenn, in case you are wondering where that 97-step winding stairway leads to, it ends at the doorstep of a second medium-sized nipa hut down the slope,  where I do my oil painting or where my sons bring their friends when they make a lot of noise with their hip-hop music!

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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 4, 2009
2:01 AM

Post #7333212

You truly live in a paradise.
plantladylin
South Daytona, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 4, 2009
2:43 AM

Post #7333349

What a beautiful garden you have!

I am in agreement with the first plant being Tibouchina. It looks a lot like one I have: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1212/ but there are many that look alike. I found 15 listed in the Plant Files database: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher[common]=&searcher[family]=&searcher[genus]=tibouchina&searcher[species]=&searcher[cultivar]=&searcher[hybridizer]=&searcher[grex]=&search_prefs[blank_cultivar]=&search_prefs[sort_by]=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

I love the looks of that Bamboo but I don't know which one it is. I hope someone will be able to identify it for you, I am really curious as to it's name also! Your Bougainvillea's are beautiful. I have a couple of them in containers and I love the colorful bracts but I sure don't like those thorns!

Lovely Ipomea ("Morning Glory"). The purple color is really lovely! http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=ipomoea violacea&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=DHYYS7KJMsjR8QbMk8jiAw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CB4QsAQwAw

I have an Ipomoea that shows up in my yard each spring, it's a thin vine with small leaves and small pale pink blooms, very invasive and it seems to be getting worse each year.

Thank you for sharing photo's of your lovely garden!

balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 4, 2009
3:11 AM

Post #7333452

Hi plantladylin!

Thank you for showing me the PlantFiles of daves garden...The problem is I really can't use them yet coz they recognize only scientific names! Gosh, I don't even know the difference between family and genus and then it even asks for cultivars, for heaven's sake! :(

I wanted to see if what I call "santan" flowers are somehow related to pentas , if not the same, coz the flowers somewhat look alike although the leaves of santan are bigger.

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Braveheartsmom
Hillsborough , NC
(Zone 7a)

December 4, 2009
5:22 AM

Post #7333801

Aloha,

Thanks for the info on the Tibouchina, Tropic - I must have some other type as mine is no where as pretty...

balaitalisai, your nipa huts are lovely - I would stop and have a rest there too if I had such a lovely spot to sit and sip coconut. The plant you call Santan looks like an Ixora to me from that distance.

Plantladylin, I hope your small pink vine that looks like a morning glory isn't what I call bindweed , which is certainly not the correct name! It's a horrible pest to get rid of and I think you have to just about resort to mega poison to kill it.

Nice to chat with you all - it's funny to think that when I get on the computer in the evening most of you are already in bed!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

December 4, 2009
6:46 AM

Post #7333913

Braveheartsmom, when you're settling down in the evening here it's mid afternoon the next day. We're nearly one lap ahead of you. Like, you're sitting at your computer now, YESTERDAY EVENING. ;O)

The Philippines are just one and a half hours behind us.
Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 4, 2009
11:43 AM

Post #7334025

I agree with Braveheartsmom that the 'Santan' is probably Ixora. They are a shrub and will get much bigger than the Pentas.
plantladylin
South Daytona, FL
(Zone 9b)

December 4, 2009
2:23 PM

Post #7334384

balaitalisai: I agree also ... your "Santan" is Ixora. Scroll down this page for different views: http://www.stuartxchange.org/Santan.html

Braveheartsmom: Thank you! I think Bindweed might be exactly what I have invading my garden. I googled for Bindweed and some of the photo's I found sure look like my invasive. Someone said it was an invasive wild Morning Glory, and it does have the cute little MG flowers it's just impossible to get rid of. I dig it up with roots and it seems to multiply more and more overnight. It has taken over some miniature Azaleas, climbs throughout the Knock Out Roses, climbs up a Schefflera tree, twines around the mailbox! The blooms are pretty but this invasive vine produces thousands and thousands of seeds and I can never seem to get them all. I have no idea where it came from originally and I love gifts from birds, some of the "surprise" plants from seeds they drop, but I wish they would drop these seeds somewhere else! I really think at some point I might be weeding or pruning a flower bed and this vine will attach its little tendrils to me, covering me completely and making me a permanent part of the garden, LOL. Grrr ... I don't like using chemicals so if I should all of a sudden go missing, it might be because I'm completely hidden by this vine! :-)

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Braveheartsmom
Hillsborough , NC
(Zone 7a)

December 4, 2009
2:51 PM

Post #7334471

LOL Tropic - now I know why I feel like the White Rabbit in Alice in Wonderland -- I'm late, I'm late, I'm late for an important date!

LOL Plantladylin, I would hate to see you "go missing" because of your vine! Perhaps someone else has managed to get rid of it without chemicals and will tell you how - it's a true beast when it gets a foothold in the garden.


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Bignonia
Atenas
Costa Rica

December 5, 2009
1:23 AM

Post #7336261

Beautiful place! What altitude are you at?
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 5, 2009
1:04 PM

Post #7337422

Hello Ladies! ( Dutchlady1, Braveheartsmom, Bignonia, Plantladylin, and Tropicbreeze)

My learnings from you all :
1. Santan is not pentas
2. Watch out that morning glory vine ...ehem...I mean ipomea vine ( did I get that right?)... I sure don't want to go missing too!

Bignonia, I don't know how to answer your question on altitide but if you have heard of Taal Volcano in the middle of Taal lake in Tagaytay City, Philippines, well ...the crater looks like this from the ground level of my property. I am still constructing a viewing deck to capture the panoramic scene of this tourist Philippine attraction.
Sorry, but that's the best answer i can give on altitude. I am still doing my homework onplant family, genus, cultivars...! :)

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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 5, 2009
2:03 PM

Post #7337551

That's a million dollar view! How stunning. You are lucky.
OCCAROL
Santa Ana, CA
(Zone 10b)

December 7, 2009
8:37 PM

Post #7345895

Plantladylin, get rid of that bindweed by whatever means possible! I have seen it literally smother trees, and whatever piece of root is left will happily grow through 6" of good mulch.
Carol
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

December 11, 2009
11:23 PM

Post #7359982

When we first got our property, the orchard looked like a parade of gnomes: all of the little new trees were covered top to bottom with ipomea/bindweed...so everything looked like vegetative R2D2s. What a pest. We still fight it!!!!
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

December 12, 2009
2:17 AM

Post #7360478

I have put in common names to plant file search, and found what I wanted. It's the top line.
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

December 28, 2009
1:24 PM

Post #7403603

Love your garden! More pictures please!
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

December 28, 2009
3:02 PM

Post #7403813

I agree and I love the idea of massing the tibochinas.

We have a perennial morning glory here with those deep blue flowers. It too is very invasive and some horticulturists are calling it the next kudzu.
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 29, 2009
7:09 AM

Post #7406085

Dear Dutchlady 1,

You did warn me about those " invasive" morning glory vines. I have the white, light blue and bright blue flowering varieties planted along my fence and they are getting on each other's throat, so to speak. Please see pictures .
What's the ideal way of managing them? Can I simply cut and trim? I want each variety to only remain on its respective part of the fence.
Help!

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 29, 2009
7:13 AM

Post #7406092

Dear Dutchlady1 Part 2

Here's the deep blue variety, the most aggressive of them all..You can see that it has gone to the turf of the light blue variety.
Would appreciate learning about your controlling techniques.
Thanks!

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 29, 2009
7:32 AM

Post #7406107

Dear Dutchlay1 Part3

And here's the white-flowering variety.
Thanks for any advice you can give.

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 29, 2009
7:39 AM

Post #7406114

Hello Plantladylin and Dutchlady1!

I just want to share with you that my red santan...ehem, ... lxora, thanks for the correct ID :) , are in full bloom in time for the holidays.
Happy holidays to you!

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balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

December 29, 2009
8:03 AM

Post #7406122

Hi rjuddharrison!
What I will share with you is the attraction in the location of my property. I finally captured this shot from the highest point on ground level of my garden, pending the construction of a viewing deck.
It's the old crater of taal volcano in tagaytay city, phils.
Thanks for your encouraging remarks about my garden.

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Dutchlady1
Naples, FL
(Zone 10a)

December 29, 2009
11:42 AM

Post #7406238

Beautiful view of the crater. How lucky to have such a gorgeous view.

The vines (morning glory, and I think the first one looks to be a Sky Vine) should simply be cut back aggressively from time to time - nothing else will keep them in check I think. I do like the white - blue - blue combination a lot!

For yet another blue or white flowering vine you could try Pea Vines!
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/528/
AlohaHoya
Keaau, HI
(Zone 11)

December 29, 2009
4:27 PM

Post #7406910

Keeping the MG in their respective 'places' is a huge job of trimming...I would have to use nuclear weapons here!!!! And a good strong pruning, as DL said, will encourage flowering and keep them from covering the entire island! Lovely garden!
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

December 29, 2009
4:31 PM

Post #7406928

No kidding. I was trimming the Woodrose yesterday. I kept pulling, and pulling - it seemed like miles of vine.
westraad
Xai Xai
Mozambique

December 30, 2009
6:10 AM

Post #7408979

Hello Balaitalisai,
My, what a lovely garden and view!!!! i absolutely love seeing photos of other people's gardens, it alwasy gives me new ideas and encourages me to go work in my own! i haven't seen you post that much, and i just saw that you just signed up recently. i hope to see you post often, we always love to make new friends!! i must tell you, everyone on this thread are wonderful! Just make sure RJ or Tropicbreeze don't make you a tropical fruit salad when you go visit them...
isaac
westraad
Xai Xai
Mozambique

December 30, 2009
6:13 AM

Post #7408984

Sorry, you must have no idea what i meant by that! its an old joke we had going about fruit salad...
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

January 4, 2010
1:43 PM

Post #7426166

Hi Westraad !

Nice to meet you in cyberspace. I'm curious about that fruit salad joke you have with the other ladies. :)

I read that you are asking about gerbera daisies. In Tagaytay City, there is a place called The Flower Farm ( owned by a friend) and it produces gerbera daisies for export. You can go to their website ...The Flower Farm...and see the many lovely gerberas they produce. They use Dutch technology in their many greenhouses ( so maybe Dutchlady1can give you tips on how to make your plant bloom.:)

I just happen to have whimsically planted a couple of them in my garden to see if they would thrive without the same technology. Without much ado, they are indeed somehow thriving. Here's a picture of one that has produced a white flower. Now that I know they can bloom in my garden, I intend to plant as many as I can and see what happens!

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westraad
Xai Xai
Mozambique

January 6, 2010
6:38 PM

Post #7435262

Hi,
sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Your gerbera looks great!! i discovered recently that its moss that is killing my gerberas, can you believe it! i wish you the best of luck with yours, and i will check out that website.
the joke was we had been talking about birds, including cockatoos. and then somebody started talking about fruit salads on the same thread, and it was either RJ or Tbreeze who then asked if they include the cockatoo in their fruit salad! it was just a joke, and it went on for quite long after that. i mentioned i liked kiwi in my fruit salad, and they thought i meant the bird, Kiwi, while i had actually meant kiwi fruit!! anyway, RJ had been talking about making bat stew, so never trust his cooking... hahahaha
Oh, and just so you know, not everybody here are ladies, rjuddharrison and me for instance. several others too here are guys!
isaac
rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 6, 2010
7:46 PM

Post #7435443

LOL, call me lady and I might cook for you!
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

January 6, 2010
8:49 PM

Post #7435653

Ok Lady RJ. Come on up here and cook!! LOL
balaitalisai
Pasig City
Philippines

January 7, 2010
3:41 AM

Post #7436911

Hahahaha! You're all so funny! I couldn't help but laugh aloud reading the kiwi bird in a fruit salad. :)

Sorry, if I mistook you all as ladies.. "Master" RJ cooking bat stew?!? Is that for real? I guess that's a male gourmet delight!

OK, I guess I better ID myself too . I am Odette...a lady who has never come across a bat stew recipe in my library of cooking books :)
But speaking of fruit salad, have you tried fresh young shredded coconut meat with 'nata de coco' ( note: this is not a bird!) and pandan gelo? Yummy!

Cheers!
westraad
Xai Xai
Mozambique

January 7, 2010
5:31 AM

Post #7437237

Hi odette, i had guessed you were a lady, but i never mention it, just incase i am wrong! we are glad to have you here with us.
No, Randy doesn't really cook bat stew, it was part of the joke...
but i still wouldn't trust his food! :-)
i haven't heard of coconut in fruit salad before, but it sounds like a good idea! one i definitely need to try.
by the way, i am Isaac, a south African missionary kid living in Mozambique. I am 16 years old.

rjuddharrison
Houston, TX
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2010
7:49 PM

Post #7438966

I was a West African Missionary kid, (Liberia) now 50...ouch, more bat stew please!
ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2010
9:02 PM

Post #7439182

We all know you are still a kid. :-)

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