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zagcadet
Homestead, PA

January 14, 2010
11:11 AM

Post #7460658

Has anyone had success germinating Blue Himalayan poppies in zone 5 (Pittsburgh, PA)?
I didn't have any succuss last year.
This year I''ve started 18 Meconopsis Grandis and 6 Meconopsis betonicifolia. The Grandis is supposed to be a perennial for zones 5-8 while the beton is for zones 7-8. I'll worry about the 7-8 next winter IF I can even get them to germinate.
Planted 1/9/10 with starting soil and put in cold garage (about 45 degrees). Plan to bring into basement in a couple of weeks then place under lights. Then hope for the best.
If anyone has had any sucess with this perennial in zone 5 please let me know if you have any tips.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2010
11:41 AM

Post #7460679

I was given seed for Blue poppies .The seeds came from Boukart Gardens in VanCover.When I asked on the NE forum I was told they are not hardy here and preferr the Northwest .
I tossed them in a spot I thought was good and we will see if they come up in May .
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

January 14, 2010
7:52 PM

Post #7461887

I get them to sprout in a cool south winter window,but I have difficulty keeping them going.
I try every year.
Did them under lights one year ,but it gets too hot for them.
This is zone 3.
I did, one year, get a purchased plant through the winter. (mulched)
congminglaoshi
Tuckahoe, NY

March 1, 2010
6:44 PM

Post #7597219

Meconopsis seeds need to be reasonably fresh to germinate, though most of them are not hard to germinate if they are viable. They should germinate in a cool indoor room under lights. The real problem is getting them to survive afterwards--this is a plant that melts when it gets much above 80F. I've heard that they can be grown, with effort, in Vermont, and they do well in the NW, parts of Canada, and Alaska, so cold hardiness isn't as much of an issue as heat stroke is where most of us garden. They also are supposed to hate dry or infertile soils. Still, they are so beautiful one can't help but try to grow them anyway.
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

March 2, 2010
3:33 PM

Post #7599542

We keep trying. I have seeded pots in a south window of:
Meconopsis betoncifolia (blue)
Meconopsis betoncifolia alba (white)
Meconopsis Hensol Violet

If no germination there then they go out to cold.
In the winter( if they sprout and grow) I plan to treat them the way people treat tender roses here.
They bury them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2010
3:55 PM

Post #7599586

I dont really have much hope for the blue ones I sowed.
NYVOICES99
Corning, NY
(Zone 5a)

March 2, 2010
5:00 PM

Post #7599729

Just sowed some blue today, this thread is not making it look like I stand a chance with them:(
jazzzy704
Fenton, MI
(Zone 5b)

March 2, 2010
5:04 PM

Post #7599737

Well when I checked out their preferred sites it was on the side of a mountain!
I believe they need an air cooled but sunny site for growing. I have tried here in Mich. with no luck.
Julie

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2010
5:38 PM

Post #7599813

Its my understanding they are hardy in the north west but not in the east.
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

March 3, 2010
4:52 PM

Post #7602409

We will keep trying until we succeed!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 10, 2010
4:55 AM

Post #7618087

nothing like endurance.
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

March 10, 2010
6:29 AM

Post #7618326

The book by Bill Terry on these (Blue Heaven) says to start them under lights with 12 hours on and 12 hours off. They should germinate in about 3 to 4 weeks he says.
The pamphlet sent with some seeds says they could take up to 100 days to germinate
so I am not going to throw them out very soon.
He grows them on the coast. I am thinking that if these grow to the outdoor stage, then I will get one of those garden misters and run it near the plants on hot dry days.

Perseverance!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 17, 2010
1:44 AM

Post #7635275

What ever variety my poppies were yhat sprouted in Nov. have disappeared. They were teeeny seedlings but cold has evaporated them.
zagcadet
Homestead, PA

June 23, 2010
8:59 PM

Post #7915345

I'm having alittle success with the Meconopsis betonicifolia (from Park's). I started 12 seeds under lights on 3/15/10 but only one germinated for me. I transplanted outside on 5/9 and the attached pic was taken on 6/5. I hope I see some blue flowers this year! I also started 12 seeds from Thompson Morgan (Meconopsis grandis) but none germinated.

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CLScott
Calgary
Canada

June 24, 2010
9:02 AM

Post #7916327

I think the problem is trying to get fresh seeds.
Some of mine germinated ,but I lost them since.
Only one or two from each package seems to germinate.

I am going to be more careful with the soil preparation another year.
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

June 29, 2010
2:09 PM

Post #7930945

I have many blue poppies from one original plant. Have to break it up every three years. Have about 25 now. Sent for seeds to see if I could grow some white ones so I am in the same boat as you. The poppies love it in my yard (micro-climate 5A) in Anchorage, Alaska. I was thinking of just board casting them but should have done so early in the spring. Our days still run in the mid 50's til late afternoon and down into the high 40's at night sometimes. It may be too late to broadcast. Darn. Had a lavender one but broke it up too soon and may have lost all five clumps.
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

June 30, 2010
6:33 PM

Post #7934137

Good luck and let us keep trying.
They are well worth the effort.
ghopper
Brewster, MN
(Zone 4b)

January 16, 2011
8:11 AM

Post #8313301

Someplace I read that the plants will not survive temps above 80*. Maybe we all just need to go to Alaska to see them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 16, 2011
2:08 PM

Post #8313842

I knew they wouldnt grow in Z6a
My GF insisted but they didnt even germinate.
paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
6:57 AM

Post #8333028

I've tried to grow them once here. They germinated but were very tiny and got wiped out by a heavy rain. I'm trying them again this year.
CLScott
Calgary
Canada

January 27, 2011
8:07 AM

Post #8333152

Keep trying and let us know your results.
I am down to one Lingholm seedling which I am coddling until spring.
kosk0025
Salem, OR
(Zone 8b)

January 27, 2011
11:43 AM

Post #8333500

I ordered himalayan blue poppy seeds from rareseeds.com (out of Eugene, OR). Received them a couple of weeks ago. Their instructions say to cold moist stratify the seeds on a moist paper towel in a ziplock bag in the fridge for a month before sowing the seeds. I started this today. We'll see what happens! I'm planning to sow them indoors before transplanting rather than outdoors, as I have had good success with starting other poppies indoors.
kosk0025
Salem, OR
(Zone 8b)

January 27, 2011
11:59 AM

Post #8333523

sorry, website is seedrack.com (Whatcom Seed Co.)
paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2011
1:43 PM

Post #8333662

I got mine from Plant World in the UK. I am going to cool germinate them.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 29, 2011
7:02 AM

Post #8336597

Got my OSP seeds in moist P/Towel and ziploc in fridge. Going on two weeks. 2 more to go. Got fingers crossed. Yea!!!

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CLScott
Calgary
Canada

January 31, 2011
10:40 AM

Post #8340735

Best of luck!

Just a note on a garden where there was supposed to be blue poppies blooming.
The "Jardin du Metis" on the south side of the St. Laurence River where the Metis river flows into it?
I don't know if that garden still exists or not. I found it in a book on "Gardens of the World".
zagcadet
Homestead, PA

February 14, 2011
3:50 PM

Post #8372306

Here's the last picture I took on 6/5/10. By the end of Fall the Blue Poppy grew taller than the stick behind it, about 12". There were actually two that survived! I didn't get any blooms this past year. Pittsburgh has had a very frigid winter this year. I'm hoping the poppies will sprout in Spring and that they bloom this year. I'll keep ya'll posted.

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HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 18, 2011
8:05 AM

Post #8378821

Blue, Violet and White poppy seeds after four weeks + of stratification in the fridge. Wish me luck! Mike

This message was edited Feb 18, 2011 9:05 AM

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 18, 2011
8:07 AM

Post #8378825

Here's pic.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2011
3:11 AM

Post #8385770

Good luck.Cant wait to see pictures.
kosk0025
Salem, OR
(Zone 8b)

February 22, 2011
7:26 AM

Post #8386163

HazelcrestmikeB---are you starting them at room temp or on heat mats? I just took mine out of the fridge. Starting them on seed starting mix in a sunny window. No heat mats. But wondering if they need them. I want them so badly to work out. I have 36 Himalayan blue seeds that I started.

HazelCrestMikeB

HazelCrestMikeB
Hazel Crest, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 22, 2011
8:32 AM

Post #8386297

Kosk0025, I sowed mine in two diffrent seed mix. According to my info that came with the seeds the temp should be 65 or less and kept out of direct sunlight. Seeds need light to germinate so don't bury them.
Ge1836, you can bet that there will be pics IF I am successful. Mike
kosk0025
Salem, OR
(Zone 8b)

February 22, 2011
11:58 AM

Post #8386686

okay, Mike---thanks. I will not use heat mats and will move them away from the direct sun in the windows. Keep me posted on your progress. I'll post pics of my seedlings once they germinate. I expect it will take a couple of weeks before germination, as that is what I recall other poppies taking for me in the past. Correction---I have 34 seeds planted, not 36.
kosk0025
Salem, OR
(Zone 8b)

March 6, 2011
6:30 PM

Post #8411030

Most of my Himalayan blues have now germinated.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 7, 2011
3:00 AM

Post #8411319

thats great
Oberon46
(Mary) Anchorage, AK
(Zone 5b)

March 7, 2011
6:41 AM

Post #8411652

this is interesting. I am in Alaska and we have them all over. Mostly blue. I am trying to grow from seeds this year. Planted two flats out in the yard last fall. Just set them out in the garden to get snowed on and frozen. then planted some this spring in gallon jugs and plastic salad containers. Just found them all over the side of the yard. Huge wind caught them. I am just sick as it jumbled all the soil and seeds. I know that my poppies need to be on top of the ground to germinate.

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