I have tried the last two years to grow Oriental Poppy: Coral Reef. I ordered the seed and purchased it locally from Lowe's.
I get about 15 seeds in a packet. I sowed seed baggy method on paper towel above my frig. When sprouted, I planted on surface of damp soil and put under lights. They died.
I also tried planting them in late February outside. Not one plant.
15 poppy seeds aren't very many for me to get success (obviously :))
I noticed on some of the spread sheets some have had succes growing Oriental Poppy. Do you guys have any suggestion for success? I have ordered Queen Victoria Louise because I could get more seed in a packet. I also ordered a poppy called Super Red Poppy that is a perennial.
Love the oriental poppies but sure haven't had any success with them. I have lovely peony poppies come from seed every year in my garden but just can't get the orientals to grow.
I have had luck sowing them in nursery pots in late summer (about Aug). I put them on the North side of my shed and keep them moist until they germinate. I leave them there until end of Spring when I plant them out where I want them to grow. I tried letting them self sow but can't tell them from the baby weeds coming up. They will self sow readily if you know what to look for. The young plant leaves don't look anything like the adult leaves. I can send you seed from Beauty of Livermore and Helen Elizabeth if you would like to try them. I am 'Winter Sowing' both this week for the first time. Would be great if this works also. They won't bloom until next year but that's okay. : )
I think poppies are very tempermental. I planted some seed last year. I had three that made it. then i got a pup. Wrong thing to do they eat everything. those poppies I babied all summer long got destroyed except for one. After I spanked the pup I repotted it. It grew out again and then I transplanted my ONe LONE little Poppy. It is still alive , so far. They are so worth it.
I have orange, red and a beautiful pink (Helen Elizabeth). Now is a good time to transplant if you would like some. : ) I have extras of the pink and the orange. When the orange becomes a mature plant the flowers revert to doubles.
Those are beautiful. I love them. Both of them.
Thought I might try to so some more seed.
Were you in on the seed trades?? I have some seed I will share since I got to look them up to plant them, anyway.
This is going to be a great growing year for all of us DG friends. Don't you think??
I believe so. : ) I have made some great friends on DG, like you. I will dig some up and send them. What is your weather like right now? The sooner you get them into the ground the better. Be sure you make where you planted them because the foliage will usually die because of being disturbed, but they come back from the root. I will try to send you two year old roots. To small and they don't have enough energy to survive, to big and they just don't like the change I guess. : ) Like some of us older folks. : )
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tcs, how long have you been WS'ing? What has been your experience with Oriental Poppies? It has been pure luck for me on the self sow method because I can tell them from the weeds as babies. I did much better once I started seeding into container. Very excited about the WS method for them. : )
I've WSown the annual Flanders poppies, shirleys, and I think the perennial ones were asiatic. (are they the same as Oriental?). They all grew and bloomed. They were beautiful in spring/early summer. But when our summer heat arrived those poppies got poppy looking. I had to yank them and replant with something else in the big holes left in the garden. Our heat fried them.
The annual ones were tall and pretty while they lasted.
Karen, that doesn't look like an Oriental. I have some with the same kind of foliage only in red flowers. Not sure what kind they are. Notice the foliage on this Oriental, it is very fuzzy. When finished flower in just prune the dead foliage back and it isn't long before new bright foliage starts growing and will stay until next years blooming time.
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valleylynn: Yes! Yes! Yes! I would Love to have any Oriental poppy seeds or plants that you could share! I really like them and have not been able to get them to grow. I tried the baggy seed last year: got three to sprout and they died right away. I have not tried to WS but I will try that this year. I have tried to buy these plants and they too have died.
tc: There is not an Asciatic poppy that I know of. There are many annual poppies - all really pretty and fun to grow. I have been able to grow the annual peony poppy that reseeds every year and some of the seeds have reverted back to their "parents". They originally started out peony type orchid poppies, then came back as rose colored poppies, and then back to single coral poppies with lavender "eyes" or centers: really pretty.
I have had succes transplanting these poppies even though they resent transplanting, because they have a root like a carrot and you have to get the entire root. So, I transplant them when they are still small: about 3 inches tall. I think their roots are even longer.
The very best and easiest way to plant annual poppies is to scatter the seed on the snow or wet ground the last of February or first week in March. I tried this last spring, but did not have wet soil when I planted them and it was late March--no plants. I am going to toss seed the last week of February making sure the soil is damp or wet--preferably with snow on the ground. So, Mother Nature needs to cooperate here! We have had sooo much snow for our area this year and have 3 inches of snow now. So, I am hoping we'll have snow the last week of February or at least a rain.
I will try the flower pot method in August but that means I have to wait yet another year for them to grow. :( Patience!
I am not clear if any one has actually had any success winter sowing Oriental poppies.
Again, I will take any kind of oriental poppy any size, shape or color. Thank you so much for the offer.
Love poppies blooms, hate the look of the plant, looks like thistle. I plant things in the flower bed that cover up the poppies as the summer goes on, thus hiding the stems. I also have a tendency to cut off the tops so the plant doesn't stick so far up. Very hard to transplant I think. I have the orange and it must of taken 12 starts or more from my Mom's garden to get them going. But once they get going they reseed like crazy.
I actually like the foliage of the poppies. It's blue green and I like blue green foliage.
I think the blue green foliage looks great with the colors poppies are.
I have had great success transplanting poppies. One has to make sure you get all of the root. Poppies have roots like carrots and it would make sense that you would have to get all of the root.
I am going to scatter annual poppy seed one day this week. If I had O. Poppy, I would sow some of it both outside and in the ground. I should have ordered some O. Poppy seed but I think it is too late to order seed now.
birder17, do you find scattering the best way to sow the seeds?
I know my orange poppies scatter their own seeds and I just remove the ones I don't want.
I have lots of different variety of seeds but wasn't sure what to do. Guess I shouldn't try to improve Mom nature and just scatter them...LOL
I don't know about the foliage, on the orange poppies, it is hairy looking, has sharp cuts in the leaves, and just reminds me of thistle. The heads stick way above the leaves which presents me a problem because I want them to dry and resow, but I don't like the look of the naked stems standing above everything so I have put other plants in there that stand tall.
Glad we are all different or there would be some boring landscaping going on...LOL
Hi happ. : ) When my poppies finish blooming and the foliage starts looking bad, I just cut the foliage back to the ground. You can still leave the seed head to dry. I don't cut the foliage back until it looks like it's starting to die. Come rains and cooler weather they send up beautiful, healthy new foliage that stay through winter and gets things ready for next years blooms. I really love my O. poppies. I kind of like the looks of the big fat seed pods. Mine do self sow, I just have trouble distinguishing the tiny seedlings from weeds. : (
I just ws some in a gallon milk jug. So am I hearing eveyone right they don't like being transpanted? I have a half a packet of seed left. Should I try putting some seed in peat pot's so I can transplant them a little easier?
I have had the orange ones for years I bought at the nursery and they self sowed.
My soil up here is like a sand pit and I am not sure how they will do selfsowing ifI ever get the darn things to grow.
I haven't had any trouble transplanting. But I only transplant the ones that have a good, strong root system. The foliage usually dies back, so I mark where it's planted and keep it watered. Eventually it grows new foliage. Once it does that nothing should bother it. : )
Amos, I scatter annual poppy seed the last week in February. If there's snow on the ground, I just scatter the seed. If there's no snow, I rough up the soil, scatter the seed. and "pat" the dirt lightly. They will need water, if it doesn't rain in the next week, I will water them.
I've not had any luck with the poppies from seeds. They will germinate and then die. Still trying again this year. Sigh...just not meant for me to have them. I bought some really pretty bread poppy seeds this year.
Okay, stupid question. I have looked and found all kinds of answers. I WS'd some red corn poppy. Are they annual or perennial plants? Just your typical red poppies - nothing fancy - but I can't seem to find a straight answer on their lifespan. Help!?
I wintersowed Princess Victoria Louise last year. I transplanted the seedlings when they only had their first true set of leaves. Most of them survived. This is their second year in the ground, and they are coming up nicely now. I can't wait for them to bloom. I hope that you have luck with yours!
Thanks for the timing of this info. I just found some misplaced -read buried in stack of magazines- mixed Shirley (marked annual), and mixed Oriental poppy seed. I was going to post and ask whether it was too late to WS them. I threw some others on the snow in Feb., but as mentioned above, can't tell the babies from the weedlings. LOL.
I'll WS these tomorrow and consider this an experiment!
So, how did everyone's poppies turn out this year?
My annual poppies did not do well. I had too many come up in one spot. Then, we had a very hot, dry spring.
I planted many Oriental poppy seeds in fiber pots, not one of them made it through the dry, hot summer we had this year. This summer was really hot and dry. We are still a minus three inches from our normal rain fall by October.
I continue to try to get Oriental poppies to grow. It's a challenge for me to say the least. I ordered a lot of seed of Princes Victoria Louise and Beauty of Livermore from Swallotail Garden Seeds. They will ship out Oct. 11th.
I am going to try to plant some in flower pots as ValleyLynn recommend and some direct sow and maybe some as WS. I had such bad luck last year with WS. By the time my plants were big enough to set outside, it was too hot and dry. I got a lot of poppies to sprout but could not keep them alive as we did not have out water hoses and irrigation system out yet and they died.
So, now I'm wondering when I should direct sow my Oriental Poppy seeds. What do you think? Now, in October or in late February? I know the seeds like to have a cold spell.
I am going to plant my larkspur within the next few days. I know they need to be planted in October.
Valleylynn: Someone suggested to me to cut the top and bottom off of gallon milk jugs, plant the seed in the soil, then work the jug into the ground where the seed has been planted. Then you would recognize the baby plants as poppies instead of weeds. I am going to try that also.
I have poppies like ValleyLyn posted. I started them from seeds straight in the garden and tried a few plants. Poppies were hard for me to get started but once I did they have done great. The deal with mine are that the plant and stalks all shrivel up in the summer and look dead and gone, but in the fall like now I have a whole bunch of green poppie plants all around. Not attractive foliage but the plants are very small and very green and I will have tons of blooms in the spring.
I will try to take a pic of the plants that have come up this fall, they go completely away in the summer here, dry, up turn brown, and then pop up in the fall again, then bloom in the spring. Raining today, but hopefully tomorrow it will be nice again.
happygarden: Wish we could get some of that rain! We "may" get some I believe Wednesday. Glad your poppies did well.
tcs: My poppies died also--no moisture. I am going to keep trying. I really think poppies are very pretty. The blooms looks so delicate. I have lots of annual poppies, but I would also like to have some of the O. Poppies.
Just found this thread. I see lots of sprouts in my winter sow containers for Beauty of Livermore and Queen Victoria. I will need to transplant them and hope for the best. Will these bloom the first year?
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think your perennial poppies will bloom until the next year. I finally have successfully started some Oriental Poppies last year. They look quite robust right now. They did not bloom last year. Lots of perennials don't bloom until the second year.
Seeds started plants are hard to establish for me.I gave up 4 years ago.
I just dont have the years to wait for a fully mature plant.
birder17 is right,it takes years.
I planted really small plants of Miss Piggy last summer.They nearly died.2 of the 4 plants have survived but it might take a few more years before I see blooms.
I have never put in such small plants so I dont know where in the maturity cycle they would fall
.The price was right but sometimes I need to weigh the price with regard to more immediate satisfaction of a larger plant.
Thanks, Birder. I have an out-of-the-way spot where I put pots with seeds in and plants that won't bloom or are too small and need extra care for a year or so. They don't get lost or mistaken for weeds this way. I just forget about them until I need to fill in some spots elsewhere in the future. It works out well for me and I always have quite a selection.
My understanding are that poppies don't like being transplanted. Took several several attempts by my Mom to get the old fashioned orange ones started in my garden. I am so glad she didn't give up because every spring they are such a great thing to few so bright and happy and full of great memories. So don't give up.
It is strange my poppies do dry up during the summer and you think they are dead, then some time later, little ones will green up before winter. I had forgot about that until you mentioned them going dormant.
I am wondering about some pink peony poppies I scattered in a terra cotta pot with my chocolate mint last summer. They germinated this spring (yay!) But the mint grew faster.
I went ahead and risked the transplant well into the summer. I was impressed with their thick white tuberous roots. Someone said they were annuals. If so I have a dilemma because none have bloomed. Or perhaps the seeds sent to me in trade were mislabeled.
What to do?
Like many of you, I never had success with poppies till this year when I direct sowed where I wanted them to grow.
I am thinking if you waited to transplant them in mid to late summer, and there were tuberous roots, I would think those were Oriental Poppies. The annuals ones would have died and there would be a "dead" dried root.
Well that's encouraging (?!). I intend to bring them inside I guess. Or winter them in the bsmt. Can't imagine letting them go without blooming! Yes, the roots were thick and white. I have 5 plants in various stages of growth, but not anywhere near bloom.
Thanks for your thoughts. I'll keep watching them.
I would not take OP's in for the winter, put them in the ground ,Oriental Poppies die back after blooming.They regrow a "winter crown" that stays green all winter.
There is always Google Oriental Poppy Care. http://www.garden.org/plantguide/?q=show&id=2052
I agree, keep the O. Poppies in the ground. We transplanted ours in August. They aren't real happy, but we are in a drought, and heat indeces has been as high as 107. This week, it's much more pleasant-temps at night as low as upper 40's and highs in the low 70's. Avg. temps here s/b about 82 degrees.
I believe the O. Poppies will improve with this cooler weather. We are watering them occasionally as we haven't had rain since August 10th, and we're in 4.5 inch rain deficit.
Amanda, peony type poppies are basically an annual poppy-I have sometimes called it the pompom peony.
The Orientals are single petaled poppies-unless, someone knows of a peony type oriental. I think you already know this.