Hi Mike. Thank you for that advise. When I was sent the seed I was told that I can put the name 'Sum & Substance' with an x after name and write seedling. I am excited to see what the babies will turn out to be. I will be putting them out in my very small woodland when they are big enough. I received several different pkts for small to large varieties of hostas.
tcs, I would not have known to do that except for the people that sent seed told me about why I needed to do that. There are so many helpful people here on DG. I have learned so much from just reading some of the threads. What a great bunch of people. Hope it stays that way. It was like finding a treasure when I found DG.
Today I will plant more WS seeds. : )
A friend from Church is coming over to see how to WS. She is excited about trying it.
I found out yesterday that I can direct sow peas now for our area. I was not having any luck with them so finally just quit trying to grow them. I wasn't planting them until the end of May. To late for here. : ) Looking forward to home grown peas this year.
Very Good Lynn! Thanks for asking. i checked everything this morning, they are all snow covered in the sun. I have 7 containers and now have a few jugs to do. In March i'll start the veggies , first time for those so we'll see how it goes ;-)
How are yours? Got enough seeds? Let me know if theres some you are looking for.
So far I have 17 varieties of tomatoes, Johnny Jump-Ups, yellow bleeding heart and Roscoea (hope I spelled that correctly). : )
Much more to plant. Have to make another run for milk jugs. : )
I have so many seeds, I don't know what to do with all of them. 153 kinds. That's a lot of milk jugs. : ) Some I may just direct sow. The cyclamen babies have been coming up everywhere (North side of house & in my small woodland). I can't believe how easy they are. Just takes them a long time. They are easy to distinguish from weeds. Some of the other things, not so easy. That's the ones I am WSing.
What are you growing?
stephanie, are you one of the areas in Texas that got hit with snow? It is so wet and cold here I don't want to get out in the yard either. So, I set a table up in the garage and that is where I have been doing my WS jugs. : ) I do have to go set them out in the yard though, that part is not fun. : ( But then I go in the house and get dried off and warmed up and look out the window and see more jugs out there just waiting to grow new plants. Big sighhhh. : )
Lynn, I planted cyclamen bulbs this fall for the first time. Will i see them this year?
My list is too long to put here but I found that columbines do well in a shady bed I have so i have about 12 diff ones ws to add there. I'm also trying some shrubs and plenty of rudbeckias. The only ones i wish I had are the tomatoe ones. i think "red tomatoe" or something like that. So 7 containers with 20-24 different ones in each, I think I have enough, ya think;-)
If they all germinate I wont have a lawn this year;-)
You will definitely have enough. : )
I'm with you, just take out more lawn. That's what I have been doing the last two years. Less to mow and water. Most of what I have been planting, perrennials & shrubs, are draught tolerant. Our water here is so expensive. Go figure, PNW and all it's rain. Summers here are really dry though.
Is that E.'Tomato Soup'?
R. Irish Eyes and R. Indian Summer are absolutely beautiful. Wonder if they are as hardy as Goldstrum? Goldstrum has done so well for me in our wet winters it makes me want to try some of the others. I've also had great success with some of the Echinacea White Swan and Magnus. Not so good with E. Sunrise. The color is almost white and the plant is not very figorous. I think I will move the plant this Spring and see if that makes a difference.
Tequila Sunrise & Tomato Soup are Echinacea.
Prairie Sun, Chocolate Orange, Goldstrum and Green Wizard are Rudbeckia. I'm not sure what the Don Elfers is. Both kinds are very hardy, love sun and are drought tolerant once established. I love them. : )
Some varieties don't come true from home gathered seeds.
Pacific North West =PNW : )
I find that they do better if in full sun. The one that is in part shade is the Echinacea Sundown, that is why I will move it this Spring and see if it does better in full sun. All the rest of my R's & E's are in full sun.
I have one daisy I got in a trade, nice healthy plant (came in Fall). I just checked it yesterday and it is alive. : ) I am really looking forward to it's flowers this summer. The only asters I have are our native ones. Very hardy and so pretty. I love them.
The R's & E's look wonderful together. I am looking forward to my Shasta Daisy blooming it's little heart out. : )
I love the Johnny Jump Ups. I have had them in the yard for about 8 years. I don't know how they do it, but I now have 4 or 5 different color combinations, all from the original pkt of seeds. They are so much fun.
We didn't get any snow, ice, or sleet, just COLD temps. I had to get some more soil. The stuff I have is too dry. Went and got that today after work, so I'm set to go now. I plan on starting some jugs tomorrow morning before I go in to work (at 1pm). I have an enclosed sunroom I can work in. It's not heated, but we have an electric heater in there I can use. I will have to water the soil in the jugs outside though.
The dry cold is the worst on the plants. We had that the first part of Dec. Very unusual for us. Now it's wet and cold (not freezing however).
You are ready to go Stephanie. Happy planting. : )
I just went through seeds and sorted out another bunch to plant next (about 20 or so).
I would never try ws tomatoes in our zone... what I have learned living in this zone is to start tomatoes inside on heat mat at the end of February. The growing season is so short here that if they don't get start then, there is barely enough time to get some tomatoes from the plant before frost hits again...
Nothing like gardening back home in Kentucky... * ~ )
ps I suppose you could winter sow them after all danger of frost but it doesn't give you enough time to have a good crop of tomatoes...
I recycle mine. since most of the tops get cut off, and some of the sides get cut to get the seedlings out .. 99% of mine are unusable. Plus... i really do not have room to store them. I do reuse the nursery pots... i just restack them and put them in the big Rubbermaid tote.
I'll re-attach my tops to my bottoms by making a hinge with some Duct tape on that one side. I'm going to try not to destroy too many jugs getting the seedlings out. If I just moisten the soil and dump 'em on their heads like Karen recommends, I shouldn't have to cut through too many that have separation anxiety...
Linda, I never tried it, but I don't think the top half will stack too well with that handle in the way. Never tried it though. I get rid of the jugs every year. I don't want any more junk around here and the jugs are easy enough to get.
Could you stack them with the handles alternating sides and still keep them in one piece? Last year, I just threw mine in a big box. Didn't intend to reuse them, but "found" them when we were doing some cleaning and straightening. I did recycle most of them, though.
That's your fault, Linda! Just poke with a knife or scissors. It takes me a couple of minutes to cut a jug and poke holes.
I use an old piece of scrap wood, been using the same piece for 5 years. It has several holes drilled in it. After I cut the jug open, I sit it on the wood. Poke scissors thru the jug and into the hollow space below formed by the drilled holes. Easy and quick.
You don't need to burn holes. It's very easy to stick a steak knife through a milk jug.
I burn my holes too. I like the holes circular and even. I cant tell if the slits let out too much water or if soil will also seep thru. It was harder to burn the holes in the containers than the jugs and the heat allowed for a quick hole in the thicker plastic.
Well, I don't quite have 70 WS'd jugs, or anything close to what Linda has going on but I'm plugging right along. I have since moved my collection onto my deck in order to avoid the ants (stupid, oops), but originally had them along this fence for a coupla days because this area had the most sunlight. I'm really thankful to have learned this technique from all of you- this really changes everything.
So far, I have successfully WS'd Lettuce, tomatoes, bell peppers, basil, swiss chard, and butterfly bush.
Here's a pic of my collection from mid-January...I've added a little more, though.
Yep, 70 jugs- I could hardly believe it myself when I counted, LOL! Hope I can have another productive day like that soon. I picked through the mound of seeds and pulled those that require cold stratification first, had about a dozen varieties of Columbine, 11 Penstemons, and several Foxglove and Rudbeckia, and a few hardy Geraniums and Hollyhocks. Also did several Snapdragons this year, my first time wintersowing those.
John, typically I like to see a set of true leaves before transplanting, big enough to handle without damaging the seedlings. I've found tiny seedlings transplant well when temps are still cool and even moisture is easy to provide.
Great pictures John, thank you for posting them. It gives me courage to continue on in my first try at WSing.
gemini, 70 jugs, that is mind boggling. I better get busier. Even with that I will never catch up. I went through the rest of my seed yesterday and sorted out the ones that need Winter chill. I hope to get them all planted by the end of the week.
meadowyck, sorry I can't help you with your seed addiction, I'm to busy trying to plant my 163 kinds of WS seeds. I'm afraid I would just be an enabler. : )
The one thing I can depend on from my very best friend in the whole wide world is that, if I ask her something, I'm gonna get her truth, no matter how it feels. I liken it to her putting on a pair of steel toe boots, and giving me a good, swift, kick in the butt. It doesn't always feel good at the time, but I've come to rely on her honesty.
She doesn't play games, and that's kinda refreshing.
You're giving me hope! My bells (inside the house for now), are tall as the tall tomato in your pic. Do you have your bells inside or out? I kept mine in for now 'cause the temps keep dropping, and I want them to get a good head start so when I put them out for hardening, they're a good size.
I opened the tops of the jugs last night and dropped the fluorescent lights to 1" of the seedling tops. I also gave them a feeding of MG and Epsom Salts night before last. They greened up overnight!
How many varieties of tomatoes have you started? I have between 14-18 different tomato varieties WSowed, and plan to sell my extras (CHEAP!).
LMK if you want any. I'll post a list of what makes it, after I uppot to 16 oz. cups and beef 'em up with deep rooting.
Ok. Break's over. Gotta get back to my day job...The one that pays for the garden!
Lynn, wintersowing is addictive, so don't be surprised if you find yourself with over a hundred next year :-)
I finally feel caught up, got the rest of the seeds that prefer cold treatment wintersown. I was surprised yesterday to end up with an easy to remember number of jugs, then today it happened again-30. Exactly 100 containers sown as of today. Looks like most of what I have left are things that need to wait till March. Breathing a sigh of relief!
Ok, sounds like I have plenty of time before I transplant. Thanks, everyone.
Gymgirl- my bells are outside. Everything, in fact. I was not as ambitious as you, and I only bought around 6 or 7 varieties of tomatoes from Parks, but they haven't shipped half of them because they're still on back order!!! I should have used more suppliers, or at least bought seeds locally as back-ups. I just fell behind somehow. I would definately be interested in purchasing some of your tomato plants, and we can still trade peppers as well (assuming mine continue to germinate and prosper.) So far, I have the Margheritas, some Supersweet 100's, and another variety I cannot recall at the moment.
Yeah, I haven't posted much lately due to my schedule but I have lurked from time-to-time to see what's happening. I must have spent an hour online (at work) yesterday getting up to speed on the whole DG ownership change. Wow.
You asking me about zinnias? If so, I haven't sowed any flower seeds yet.
After lurking and reading, I think I might need to wait til next weekend. I have seeds for zinnias (those huge lime green and fuscia ones), marigolds, and a coupla other common plants. I believe these are not cold hardy annuals.
Correct me if I'm wrong and I'll rush right home to throw some seeds in a jug!
OK, you confused me again. That was in another thread, apparently asking about last year's plants in seed starting trays.
Actually, this happens a lot on DG I think. Threads get so long, touching so many subjects. A lot of thoughts and questions unfortunately get lost in the shuffle. I think a new thread about a new subject makes more sense, but that's never going to happen here.
With having 14 milk jugs to prep for sowing... i decided to "time" how long it took using a steak knife and scissors.
40 seconds to toke and twist 14 holes and slice the top... I do feel using the 'glue gun' took longer.
I also feel that milk jugs are thinner than they have been in the past... cutting back maybe??
but easier to poke and twist than i recall from previous years.
I have 18 jugs and 5 qt sized yogurt buckets all ready to go. will wait til the family is done with lunch before i bring out the soil. Amazing how everyone is home today -- so much easier to do when the house is empty.
tcs, you are on your way. : )
I use a sharp pointed phillips screw driver and a box cutter to do mine. This is the first time for me and I to was surprised at how thin the milk jugs are. Went very quickly. The box knife sliced through them like butter. I have 10 more ready to fill up. : )
Ok, ya'll forgive me for digressing from the main thread topic here, please...back on track!
My Wando peas are about to grow outta the milk jug, so I need to plant them out this weekend.
Winter Sowing totally ROCKS! I'd like you to know I've been recruiting devotees' in every forum I belong to and sending them this way. It's all your (and Trudi's) fault if the fluorescent light people go outta business! ^^_^^ doing the WS dance!
If I used "steak knife and scissors" I'd probably end up with stiches the little extra time with the glue gun is worth it to me lol
I've filled about ten jugs today and put them out in the rain to get wet and planting the eleven that I had sitting here draining from the last rain. I've only sown the lucky number of 13 jugs so far need to get the lead out!
I sowed some garden Globeflower just now and see there is another one that is yellow all the time I thought mine was yellow and now I guess it was an orange color I think it was lol Anyway these are suppose to be hard to germinate so I hope I have luck with them! I like a challenging seed :)
I have officially started! I WSed 4 containers last night before it got too dark. DH is doing something different with the jugs this year. He's using a box cutter to make little "vents" in the top, 4 on each jug, approx. 1/4" long in a half moon shape cut on 3 sides. Then, he's leaving the flap up so it catches water and directs it down into the jug. I have pics of the jugs, but they're on my computer at home.
Linda: You would probably do well with coleus in your zone. Won't take any frost, or even temps much below 50 or 60, so best sown close to summer. I tried it once and they stayed way too small until around August.
Now, I keep some cuttings under lights through winter and start some from seeds inside.
Nope. From a coupla small seedlings I grew up. They cost $1. I learned to "snip and stick" pieces into some potting mix, and turned a few into many. The dusty miller was there at the same time, so I bought it. Had no idea what it would grow up to look like together, but there's the proof.
I loved that combination together.
I'd love to WINTER SOW (see, I'm on topic here, again...) some COLEUS SEEDS (hint, hint, hint...to whoever might be watching...^^_^^!
help. zone 5 i never ws in milk jug . how many tomato seeds do you put in one. allso need milk weed. can i do that? do i ws now and they come up at the right time? thank you all for the help. jlmcv45 jim. 4 in of snow fell to day jim
Linda, beautiful coleus. I love the black dragon/dust miller combo. Maybe I should try some of those added to my coleus. BTW, pinching those coleus will keep them bushier.
Nice list, Terese.
jim, how many seeds per container is up to you. I'd probably only do about 6 in a milk jug. I can't plant toms out very early, don't want to "pot up" so I do toms in cups sometimes. I do use milk jugs for about everything else though.
I have WSown milkweed (A. tuberosa). I think it was my first year. I didn't get great germination but did end up with 4 healthy plants. Later killed one trying to move it. Here's one, in it's 4th year I think.
Here's my start! I went ahead and sowed my sweet peas because it's been raining for a couple of days. I need to get them going, but we've had rain off and on for the past week, so I've not been able to get out and work in the areas where they're going to be planted. I'd rather have the time to get the areas weed free while they're germinating than miss out on them this year.
grrrlgeek wrote:Hmm, I have both of those, I'll have to do a container. How do dusty miller do with cold? Maybe I can WS them late. Obviously I'll have to start the coleus in. Anyone WS dusty miller?
I've not WS Dusty Miller but it appears they are a fairly hardy plant. We've had ice and snow cover for over three days and nights with some nights down near 10 degrees and it appears the dusty miller in my beds might still have life near the soil line. It would be great if they come back this spring. Won't know for certain for another few weeks. I have left the plants as is with winter killed tops in place. They haven't been trimmed.
Last fall, just to see if a dusty miller cutting would root, I pinched out a top of one before the first frost and that little top rooted very quickly in a damp potting mix. Based on my brief experience with this little plant, I think they'd be a great candidate for WS'ing.
I have a silver themed bed that has dusty miller. It is very hardy. I think it would be ok to ws it too as maryleek said.
I'm hesitant to ws coleus. Its a tender perennial, which means its an annual in most paces in the US except maybe zone 10-11.I have always started mine indoors with heat mats. Whenever I direct sow into a bed I wait till summer heat is consistent.
It would make a good experiment thou to see if they come up. I had some volunteers in my beds one year so they must do ok outdoors over the winter. They just didnt come up till late summer.
Gymgirl, I think I will try a jug and see what happens.If it fails, its just a couple of seeds lost, right?
Janet, Coleus comes back for you? or Dusty Miller?
Dusty Miller is hardy for me too but not coleus. Nothing is easier to start from a cutting than coleus though. Last year I cut up a whole gangly coleus houseplant & turned it into 13 new little plants - plus the stub grew back...
thank you stephanietx one more thing. i have a lot of wildeflower seed . i would like to ws on the ground .zone 5 . we have 4 in of snow . more coming the 9-10. of feb. when that is gone an still wet. would that be a good time to ws? would you like some (cockscombs) seed my e-mail is email@example.com. jim thank you jim.
hi tcs1366 yes i ment thro the seed on the ground. some of it is old. let the good lord say if they are good or not. do you think the snow melt will wash the seed away? as for the milk weed it came up wild but last fall i picked the pods &burnd the weeds . so i will ws the seed from the pod. i will put them in jugs. would you like some (cockscomb) seed. my e-mail firstname.lastname@example.org thanks every one. jim
The milkweed might still come up after a burning, let me check the Fire Effects database...
...it looks like, depending on species and the "hotness" of the fire, you could very well have more Asclepias come up in the burned area. Watch for babies! Here's the link to the database if you're interested: http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/ .
Celene, how much snow did you get in Columbus? We got about 7" in Cincinnati. That pales in comparison to places measuring it in feet, but 7" all at once is pretty much for us. Fortunately, it was a weekend so not so bad. It doesn't take much snow to bring the city to a screeching halt.
At least 12" here, but there is a lot of drifting. To give you an idea, my porch has three steps, and the snow drifted up the steps to the door and I had to shove on the door good and hard to let the dogs out, there was probably 4" of snow drifted up on the porch.
I'm in a colder zone than you and mine that is out in the garden comes back year after year.
Janet, my thanks for this additional helpful information. I planted dusty miller next to the black OSP vines and it was so pretty together. Had a hardy geranium in the mix, too, and it was one of the prettiest spots in my small garden. Also had the dusty miller planted among the Salvia Victoria Blue Sage and the coloring in dusty miller really picked up the silver tinged leaves on the salvia. So happy to learn the dusty miller should come back. I saved cuttings from the OSP vines so sounds like I'm all set with that part of the garden when spring arrives.
This is one of the best reasons to visit Dave's Garden as we learn so much from each other.
Speaking of images... i was bored last night and was going thru old images... this is my view during the summer from my back door. This would have been summer of 2008, as some of those invasive trees have been trimmed back.
Oh, yeah, leeky! My Margarita Blackie just bit the dust, getting nipped in our last freeze. I'm hoping there's some life down below the soil and that she'll come back. If not, count on seeing that combination in my spring pics! Dusty Miller, and SPV Margarita!
This is continually one of my favorite forums on DG--seems like no matter what time of year there aren't any lulls that you get in some of the other forums:lol: Wintersowers are planning and chatting about seeds to purchase or trade, containers to sow in, how to's and tips, showing off the babies, showing off the grown up babies in their new homes and sometimes...still in their WS containers due to their WS bounty of extra seedlings and no place for them to go and the forgotten containers thought to be duds that just were extremely slow to germinate making sudden appearances when they were least expected. Never a dull moment in the WS forums...and I just love it=)
Think mother nature is doing here own thing haven't seen snow here in year's but we on alert for next 2 days. We just have to keep going.
Had to bring my yellow shrimp plant in cause lost my red last year they do not survive here outside .
Wow, I got some jugs planted last week, just in time for more snow. This is only my second year, and it's still hard to believe that anything will grow in those poor, cold containers. Last year I planted a few and had great success and I'm trying to remember that. I'm still going to plant lots of duplicates inside, under lights this year, but if it works well again, I'd like to do less inside. Im even trying veggies this time. I have my fingers crossed.
Yay, I've started! Last year was my first try at WSing and I was not all that successful so I wasn't sure I wanted to try it again. But I'm not l going anywhere this winter (unlike last year) so I'm giving it another try. I got 7 jugs planted today: berlandiera, echinops, delphinium, cosmos, some mystery small alliums, nigella, and Chinese lanterns. They are all seeds collected by me or by friends. The last two are from old seed, but I have nothing to lose if they don't grow - the others will!
I am here! We got 11.3" of snow and NO it doesn't normally snow THIS MUCH in my part of Texas! LOL We usually get a dusting (not more than 3") every year, but this year, the heaven's just opened up and dumped on us all day on Thursday.
Here is looking out our front room window looking out at the front yard and the road out fron. This was 4 years ago. It was two days before the trees and snow were cleared so we could get down the road. We were lucking we didn't lose power. It was a record for us, we usually just get a dusting.
So now I am not going to complain about the cold and rain that is not turning into snow. : )
WOW, I hope everyone's roses in Texas survive the snow! Mine are used to it, but they are all hardy ones, and some of them still don't make it. We are getting flurries today. Tiffany is barking at the squirrels and icicles dropping from the roof. I had to move some seedlings so that she could look out the window upstairs.
Nice to see another stitcher and knitter, Stephani. I have been mostly knitting, lately. I love the look of cross stitch and want to try some machine embroidery cross stitch designs. (I haven't done much hand cross stitch, I like embroidery with lots of stitches, someday I will do a sampler when I find the "perfect" design)
I am such a bad procrastinator!! I still haven't gotten started on my WSing.. but since I'm further north now, I guess it doesn't matter. Right??? :)
I'm hoping to get some going this weekend.. we'll see LOL..
I think that it's basically just fine to procrastinate a bit in our zones--Mother Nature will still give the seeds the chilling that they need in Feb or Mar or April, (for the less hardy seeds.) The reason to WS in Dec. or Jan, IMHO, is because one just can't WAIT to get those hands in dirt. I know I can't.
I wintersowed my first seeds yesterday. Three jugs of sweet peas which I had wanted to start several months ago. It is really warming up now (69 degrees yesterday) so it doesn't really feel like I am wintersowing LoL. The seeds were old - 1992, 1995, and 2003. Will see if any of them are viable.
you'll be surprised what is good. I read on a thread one time that someone collected seeds from their childhood and used it as art or kept it or something and then germinated them and they were fine. how cool is that?
My WSing project has come to a standstill. Between the snow and a horrible case of bronchitis that took me out of work for 2 days, I've done nothing except sleep and hack and cough! I plan on attempting to get back at it today, but we'll see how that goes!
Today's my first day back, too. All day in bed Saturday & 1/2 Sunday. Then went out and tried a little bit, and ended up having to take Monday and Tues. off.
But, the DH put up a hoophouse for me yesterday, and moved all the jugs from the spa to the concrete launching pad. How cool is that? Used sheets in a pinch, and will be looking for Viscount? Construction Grade Plastic? to make a proper cover.
It went down to the low 30s last night. Hope they did ok.
I've noticed a few of my seedlings have swooned, and I'm praying it's not the dreaded damping off! A coupla my jugs did hold some extra water in the last downpour so I've opened the tops hoping they'll dry out quickly!
Hello everyone! I kind of fell off the face of the earth for a while, but I do hope to get started with some wintersowing soon. I am getting more inspired by reading your posts.
It went sooooo well for me last year! I loved it. I can't wait to see what comes up again this year.
I have been saving milk jugs (every one!) since I stopped sowing last spring... and I have 5 boys... and I can't get into my shed anymore... do you think that will be enough?
I am just hoping I can afford to buy soil to plant in this year. It does add up. One thing I am so bummed about is that I saved some seeds from my own plants last fall, I was so excited to have some to replant and spread around. I had them drying in paper cups and paper plates in the kitchen. Well, my 8yo decided to help me clean the kitchen one day while I was out. He threw out every single one! Ahhhh, I just about cried.
I do have quite a stash though of seeds I traded for and bought last summer, so I am sure some of them will still be good.
LoL I feel your pain! People just don't understand how much we love our seeds and plants. Lisa D I have some seeds I would be happy to share with you. Please, dmail me if there are any seeds you would like to have. I will check my stash for you.
Thanks Anita! That is so sweet. For this year, I think I will see what comes up from the ones that I gathered from. I do kind of a gathering, scattering thing for the ones that have a lot of seed so we will see. : )
I am torn though this year because we will be gone for 6 weeks from the end of May to July 5th. I hesitate to sow anything that I would be emotionally attached to this year, and then leave it in the hands of our faithful house-sitter (college student) for that long. There are a few things that I just want volume plants of, and so for those I will probably sow them in several jugs, and fill in the gaps from last year.
I have an acre, and it is still pitifully empty. But I figure little by little I will be able to see it come to life.
My very first WS babies have poked their little green heads out of the soil. Marion and Green Grape tomatoes. I am so excited. I feel like I want to go out with a flashlite and check on the during the night. I have about 25 jugs sown now. More tomorrow.
Wish I would have known about WS a long time ago.
I think that, in honor of all of Karen's hard work in diligently and succinctly, and lovingly and sometimes with a good stiff steel toe boot kick, providing her johnny-on-the-spot replies to our MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY questions regarding this new sport, we should adopt a Winter Sowing slogan of some sort and have it printed up on Tee-Shirts.
I'll begin the discussion of our slogan with my suggested banner:
"Winter Sowing -- It's Better Than the Olympics!"
And, here's my latest contribution to our WSing updates. The final count came in at 29 bells and 8 hot pepper plants for a grand total of 37 WS peppers!
I agree, I'll contribute to the tee shirt. I so appreciate all of you. Gymgirl, you are way ahead of me. Today I add Black Cherry and Gold Nugget tomatoes to the list of germinating jugs. : ) Proud mamma. : )
Ok, I need winter sowing advice. I opened my tomato seedling milk jugs and put them out on the concrete launching pad to start getting some sun (although we've only had bright light 'cause it's been cloudy the last 3-4 days. Sun peeking in and out VERY briefly...)
Well, the seedlings look like they're turning yellow instead of greening up. I'm getting concerned, and am inclined to wanna pot them up to 16 oz cups and bring them in under the fluorescent lights for about a week or so to give them a chance. Or, should I just leave them alone?
They're just now making their 1st set of true leaves. I want them to live to the 2nd set of true leaves!
Gymgirl, I am pretty sure they are going to be just fine! keep the lid of the milk jug on them, the filtered light is really the best. I kept my tomatoes in their jugs last spring until they were coming out the top.
They were good and sturdy when we were finally past frost. In the milk jugs they were fine once they germinated. I know it is hard to believe. But I am even in a zone 7 where we still got below freezing for almost a month after they were up.
I planted mine on 3/6, they germinated 3/25 and we didn't get our last frost until late April. They were outside the whole time! They were covered until I planted them out in May.
Well, here's a new one. I had some wallflower "My Fair Lady" seeds on my WS list, and after careful research, decided they shouldn't go out until mid-March at the earliest. Of course I didn't read my own notes, so that when sowed them last weekend by accident while doing a bunch of other ones, I decided to compromise. I left the jug on my four-season porch, where temps get down to about 30-40 degrees overnight, and we also have a heater we use when we sit out here in the evenings. Today I went to make sure it wasn't drying out, since it's in the sun but indoors ... and surprise! A bunch of seedlings! Looks like they germinated in about 4 days.
Any particular advice on keeping the alive throughout the next two months? I also have dozens of coleus seedlings that I sowed in one of those plastic trays with the individual peat discs ... in January, because I just HAD to plant something ... and they came up in four days too. So I'll have to try to nurse them along until May as well.
I wintersowed Wallflowers (Erysimum cheiri) year before last, and did them early. They were the first to sprout, while it was still quite cold out. They performed beautifully, and are apparently quite hardy. Last spring they bloomed beautifully, the mother plants as well as a bunch of seedlings around them have stayed green through this awful winter we've had. This makes me think they prefer cool temps. The porch should be fine for them for now, but in March I believe I'd put them outside. When my seedlings were tiny they were exposed to quite a bit of cold and were unharmed in the jug.
Thanks for the input! All the research I did seemed to indicate that there were less hardy than other perennials. Your experience would explain why they leaped at the chance to germinate in less-than-ideal conditions.
This year I've got both Siberian Wallflower (Erysimum x marshallii) and English Wallflower (E.cheiri) wintersown. Its the Siberian I typically see around here, and the one I figured would be the toughest, but so far the English has been easier for me. I'd read that the English wouldn't tolerate our hot summers, but so far, so good :-)
Oh, no, I only sowed enough to get 1-3 plants of most of them. There are only a couple of gallons, the rest are 1/2 gallons and 2 liters, and almost all the containers have more than one species planted in it. Some of the natives are going in and around the wild pond nearby since no one maintains it (like the arrowhead and echinacea).
Last year all I WS'd was parsley - it grew better than any I ever tried before.
So far this year:
Are these all good candidates for WS?
I have them on a deep basement window sill (at least 12 inches), limestone foundation, facing south. I'm thinking that this will give them a head start. The south facing wall is behind the tall trees in the attached picture, which was taken on Thursday.
Mine were covered with snow a few weeks ago! LOL I'm thinking of moving my tomato jugs from the east side of the house to the south side of my house so they'll get a bit more warmth. What does everyone think about that?
Yippee! On 1/31, I wintersowed some veggies. This is my first time with the veggies, and I just found tiny sprouts of broccoli, lettuce, spinach and cabbage. I wanted it to work so I could cut back on what I sow under lights inside. We've had three snow storms since I planted and there is more coming this weekend, but I am going to have faith and leave them alone.
I also have flower sprouts in about six of the 95 jugs that I've planted so far. I had good luck with flowers last year, and now I'm hooked. I'm especially happy about the sprouts from seed that I gathered myself. This is my first attempt at that too.
Thanks to all DGners who have helped me with tips and advice!!!!!!