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CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2010
3:48 PM

Post #7566599

I have 4 half gallon jugs. Can I use them to WS and should I leave the tops on my jugs or does it matter? Thanks.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2010
5:25 PM

Post #7566837

Absolutely you can use them.

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 18, 2010
3:49 AM

Post #7568358

and leave the tops off until they start to sprout, then watch for cold night and recap the jugs.

This is what was told to me to do with them.

Oh how I wish I was back home in Kentucky,,, just so as to get a jump start on veg and flowers...plus I would be closer to new granddaughter...LOL

Janet

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2010
9:35 PM

Post #7570085

I would punch the tops full of holes the normal way but that's just me, it's still snowy here.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 18, 2010
9:45 PM

Post #7570114

Cajun, I use lots of 1/2 gallon jugs, they work great. Do you mean the screw off caps? You leave those off, if that's what you're referring to.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 19, 2010
1:53 AM

Post #7570612

Yes to the 1/2 gallons. Even 2 liter soda bottles will work fine.
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2010
11:33 AM

Post #7571131

Thanks.
I've got to get busy on this while it's still winter!

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 19, 2010
6:09 PM

Post #7572018

make sure you punch drainage holes in the bottom and I've seen where others do the top as well. then cut the jug in half put your wet soil mix then seeds, then duck tape that the top half to the bottom.

I'm hoping to get most of mine done this weekend...LOL

Janet
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

February 20, 2010
11:25 PM

Post #7575176

What if you do NOT have half-gallon bottles of any kind? What else is used for W/S?

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 21, 2010
12:37 AM

Post #7575311

evelyn

go to any of the coffee shops they have plenty of milk jugs and I'm sure being in CA would be more than happy to have them recycled... for WS..LOL

Janet
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2010
1:21 AM

Post #7575477

Some folks use clear lidded storage tubs, various types of deli containers, aluminum roasting pans with clear lids, or pots enclosed in large zip lock bags.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 21, 2010
2:03 AM

Post #7575599

My family drinks lots of soda, so I WS in them but I have found that you need more than 4" of soil - the roots get stuck in the swirls at the bottom.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 21, 2010
2:16 AM

Post #7575635

geminisage,
I'm a 1st timer at WS just this winter and I've had wonderful success. That said, there are those who came before me with years of experience. It was easier to just follow their wisdom.

Milk jugs, by far, are the most efficient, if you can get them. I collected from my local Starbuck's, almost 20 jugs at a time, every time I called to ask them to save them for me.

I used a phillips screwdriver on the stove to burn the holes in the tops and bottoms.

Here's a pic.

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 21, 2010
3:30 PM

Post #7576744

how long do you have to leave the screw driver on the stove before it will burn into the milk jug? I tried last night with no results, so I'm thinking about getting a small electric screw driver to do the job...

Got to get started...

Janet
Pippi21
Silver Spring, MD
(Zone 6b)

February 22, 2010
3:42 AM

Post #7578085

Janet, what kind of stove do you have? Gas, electric or one of the flat surface? I'd be scared to death to put a screw driver on an electric stove burner for fear of electricution. A gast stove would be better but my husband had an old soidering iron that I bet he hasn't used in a zillion years and I use that. Doesn't take long for that to heat up and melt into the plastic jugs/containers. The bottoms of soda bottles are tough but it can be done, it takes longer.

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
4:03 AM

Post #7578114

Not to worry I gave up on that idea as I have electric and was afraid of getting electrocuted. So I went with a electric drill and drilled the holes in the bottom.

I make a good dent today, as I got 129 jugs washed and cut in half... what a learning experience that was...LOL I started out using an utility knife to cut half way through then used scissors to finish cutting.

Then I started the drainage hole drilling only got 20 jugs done as I was drilling 3 holes in each section of the bottom that has four sections.

I've decided to leave the labels on to make it easier to put my labels on.

Here are a few pictures from todays act ivies...

Janet

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
4:04 AM

Post #7578115

another smaller stack to make the 129 total jugs.

Janet

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
4:05 AM

Post #7578118

The cutting of the jug in half...

Janet

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
4:08 AM

Post #7578125

and the drilled holes in the bottom of the jug.

Do you think those holes will be enough for drainage...

I hope to get the planting started within the next few weeks.

I've got sinus surgery on Tuesday, so it will be a few weeks before I get to play in dirt,,, have to wear a mask... but I hope to have them done by the first weekend in March... If these 129 go ok then I'll be going to get another 200 jugs, I've got a lot of seeds that I need to get started this year... Our garden club has a big plant sale which is our main fund raiser for the year and I want to be able to donate a boat load of plants this year...

Janet

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meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
4:45 AM

Post #7578210

ya know I wanted to say I tried to do the half gallons, but the few I cut into had more height than I wanted compared to the gallon jugs, so I just recycled the half gallons... Although now that I think of it I just might go pull them out and use them for some clem seeds as they like to have lots of room for roots.. Maybe for me there is a good use for them.

Janet

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
5:04 AM

Post #7578231

Excellent job Meadowyck! 300 jugs and I'd invite the garden club over 2 help!

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
5:18 AM

Post #7578244

Thanks

I'm hoping that after this year they will all become more interested and that we can have a ws party... for one of our club meetings.

Janet
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

February 22, 2010
1:11 PM

Post #7578490

Are you going to have to repot all those plants to sell them or just sell the jugs? Are you planting a lot of seeds to each container?

Good luck with your surgery Tuesday... too bad they couldn't have done it in early fall instead of the time of year you will soon be wanting to get outdoors. Wishing you a successful surgery and speedy recovery Janet!

blomma

blomma
Casper, WY
(Zone 4a)

February 22, 2010
4:13 PM

Post #7578932

Most what I sow are perennials. I did many last year in the kitchen paper/baggie method, which really worked great. This year I have Clematis and Iris seeds I want to WS. I too don't have much space for jugs so using those clear plastic shoe boxes from Walmart.

Both varieties require flunctuating temps and should sprout in the spring when the temp goes to 50F degrees.

Here are the 3 boxes as an alternative to jugs.

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blomma

blomma
Casper, WY
(Zone 4a)

February 22, 2010
4:14 PM

Post #7578935

And here shows the inside of the boxes.

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gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 22, 2010
7:56 PM

Post #7579493

blomma, what kind of Iris are you starting? I wintersowed I.tectorum (Japanese Roof Iris) last year and they did great.

meadowyck

meadowyck
Brooksville, FL
(Zone 9a)

February 22, 2010
11:49 PM

Post #7580155

thanks for the well wishes on the surgery...

Yep I'll repot them for our plant sale as well as my own plant sale. But then some think I'm strange as I really enjoy the repotting stage. I like the challenge of trying to save every seedling and transplanting it to an individual container...LOL

Janet

blomma

blomma
Casper, WY
(Zone 4a)

February 24, 2010
12:10 AM

Post #7582670

gemini,
My TB Buffawn (Andrew 1940) and TB Echo de France (Anfasso 1984) surprised me with setting seed pods summer of '09.

Will be interesting to see what I get.

Below is Buffawn, my favorite historic iris.

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grrrlgeek
Grayslake, IL
(Zone 5a)

February 27, 2010
4:25 AM

Post #7591103

Mmm, adding Buffawn to my want list. I used only a few gallon and half gallon jugs, many more 2 liter soda bottles. Some annuals that I start later I'm going to try in 16 ounce cups.
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2010
5:12 PM

Post #7592202

I have used a lot of G2 bottles also.

blomma

blomma
Casper, WY
(Zone 4a)

February 28, 2010
1:36 AM

Post #7593226

Anyone that lives near a Burger King could probably request their 5 gallon plastic containers that veg oil comes in. They have a screw-on top and the containers are rather square. They can be cleaned with hot sudsy water and brush. I think they would make an ideal WS container for lot of seeds.
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 2, 2010
7:07 PM

Post #7675550

Only thing growing in my jugs is weeds. :(
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2010
4:22 AM

Post #7676331

Weeds? How odd? I get the occasional weed in a couple, but not many typically can blow into the little hole in the top of the jug. Do you think the potting soil was contaminated?
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2010
6:16 AM

Post #7676492

I used my compost.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2010
6:24 AM

Post #7676503

I did that once and had the same problem. The seedlings grew really well in it, but it was such a booger keeping the weeds out, and figuring out what which ones were the weeds. I even tried sterilizing the compost in the oven, but still got weeds.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2010
6:25 AM

Post #7676504

Oh, just thought of something. One time I made potting compost out of 100% leaf mold, and it was awesome. Did have a few weeds, but not enough to be a problem.
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 3, 2010
6:31 AM

Post #7676527

Oh well, C'est La Vie.

Gymgirl

Gymgirl
SE Houston (Hobby), TX
(Zone 9a)

April 5, 2010
3:11 PM

Post #7682161

GeminiSage,
How did you make the AWESOME potting compost out of leaf mold?
CajuninKy
Biggs, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 5, 2010
7:13 PM

Post #7682844

Checked my WS containers today ans some have sprouted plants!
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 6, 2010
5:25 AM

Post #7683518

Congrats Cajun!

Gymgirl, we used a leaf blower that also has a vacuuming feature that mulches and bags the leaves. I just piled it up in the fall and by spring it was full of worms and worm castings. I grew the prettiest little bedding annuals in that stuff that year!
grrrlgeek
Grayslake, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 21, 2010
4:37 PM

Post #7725284

I tried that last year with whole leaves, but the"landscapers" came along and blew the leaves away. The leaves were at the back of the bed under the deck. When I found out they were walking in my bed blowing leaves (and aiming that nasty gas guzzling thing at my plants) I pitched a fit.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
4:25 AM

Post #7726453

Leaves compost a lot faster if they're chopped up by the mower or something. And you don't have to worry about them blowing in the wind. It results in a better texture if you're using it for potting compost.
grrrlgeek
Grayslake, IL
(Zone 5a)

April 22, 2010
11:13 AM

Post #7727458

Unfortunately I don't have anything like that to chop with, I may have to get creative. Maybe if they're chopped up the will be let alone.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

April 22, 2010
11:20 AM

Post #7727480

LOL. Last year I collected from neighbors trash piles bags of leaves their landscapers had left for the garbage company. I spread about 15 large bags all over the top of my herb bed which is about 50 feet long, 4 feet deep and 3 feet across. I was going to turn them under the next day. To my surprise, the next day I went out to turn under the leaves and the gardeners had removed every leaf. Totally super clean.
gemini_sage
Winchester, KY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
4:58 PM

Post #7728253

grrlgeek, can you mow over the leaves? That works well.

Bummer, Worms, you'd think they'd have seen it was intentional.
podster
Deep East Texas, TX
(Zone 8a)

April 22, 2010
5:18 PM

Post #7728326

Do you think they wanted the leaves themselves? LOl

Grrrlgeek ~ if the landscapers use bags when they now, the leaves would be chopped up. Ask if they will dump them in a inconspicuous corner maybe?
tggfisk
Garner, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 23, 2010
3:16 AM

Post #7729267

I've heard of putting leaves in a trashcan and using the string trimmer to break them up...'Course if you have tons of leaves, that would be a big chore.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

April 25, 2010
9:28 PM

Post #7737350

I have 7 very large bags of leaves now out by the pool equipment. I need to make the leaves inside smaller. They have been there since about September. I wonder if I could stomp on them or run over them with the SUV..

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