With the advent of warmer weather, the peonies are really taking off these last few days. Normally I don't have blooms on the herbaceous peonies until the latter of April, but I won't be surprised if they are much earlier this year.
Wow we just had 5 1/4" of rain follow by 6" of snow. Now everything is mushy and white with more snow/rain coming. Wishing my Peonies in the ground were up.
Soilsandup are those lemons in the upper right corner of your picture?
It's absolutely gorgeous! Really subtle and elegant. OK, it's a bit pricey.
Have you noticed that the prices on the oldies have shot through the roof? I got a Mrs. FRD with seven eyes for about $15 in 2004. The going price seems to be $25. Not a lot in absolute terms, but it's not patented, old as heck and easy to divide.
On another site a person said that the same thing is happening with irises. The old ones that some people tossed are not hot - and very pricey!
The next hot peony will be the species ones. A very hot one because it takes a while to adapt, if it ever does are the native North America ones, P. brownii and californii.
In the back of my mind I keep thinking that somewhere in the east of US or Canada are native peonies that because of their appearence people do not know they are from the peony family. If they exist they will be stumbled upon in someones garden or in a wild area.
You mean something like this... I discovered it in a corner of my property almost 9 years ago. Didn't know what it was but kept it alive while slowly clearing a small area around it, though it's still a very shady spot. Just recently I decided to post it on the ID forum and discovered it's a peony. Barely gets any sun but am planning to clear a little more of the area for increased sun and see what happens. The pic shows it at it's peak growth last summer.
Peonies and me don't get along. Why don't my peonies ever bloom? I have had the one plant for almost 3 years. I always make sure that they aren't planted too deep and that they are about and inch under the soil . I always get nice green foilage and little bitty buds but then nothing. Could someone maybe help me.
Where did you get your peonies? It is not unusual for them to take two or three years to flower or even more for the small roots sold in places like Home Depot. You live in a great clkimate for peonies so they should be pretty effortless for you. You've ruled out the planting depth issue; what about sun? Do yours get enough?
I wouldn't begin worrying that much after three years especially if the plant was small to begin with. Even the big ones sold by the major peony growers can often take a couple of years.
I bought one from lowes last april and it had flowers on them that were ready to open, but as soon as I planted it they didn't bloom. I don't remember where I got the one that hasn't bloomed but its pretty big. They do get full sun. I guess that I will watch them again this year and hope for the best.
Plant probably needs to be raised a bit and given some even numbered fertilizer, 10-10-10 etc. Contrary to the expectation that most will bloom with in three years some may take longer. Any peony with molly in its parentage may take a while. Another that takes more time is Old Faithful.
Although they are cheap the peonies that are sold as red, white and pink can contain some of the more expensive peonies especially when suppliers are cleaning out their warehouses. One of the reasons some are more expensive if you buy the name is that they either do not grow fast or are hard to divide.
mcgper - Yes, that is a semi-dwarf meyers lemon in the background. It is a great to be able to have lemons pretty much year round, and the best part is that the heaviest fruiting period is right around Christmas when fresh fruits are rare.
Steve - oops! Sorry about that.. LoL ..I do remember making a comment last year about how early you got your first opened blooms We had a week of 70 degrees a couple of weeks ago and everything took off
Here's a photo of the lemon tree while waiting for the peonies.
I tiptoed outside onto the wet grass to find that vitually all of my 14 peonies have broken dormancy. Our temps went up into the 50's the last few days and the mountains of snow that made it tough to get out of the driveway a week ago are gone!
The roses have broken dormancy, as well. Everything is soggy, and I couldn't be happier.
I acciidentally chopped one of the eyes off of one of my peonies - I took a picture and you can even see the little flowerbud inside when I opened it up. How depressing! I was putting mulch in one of my beds and must have grazed it by accident. Was from peony "Top Hat" I got from Hollingsworth last fall. Fortunately there are some other pips coming up!
One of the few good things about them coming up late is that it's harder to zap them. Steve, I'm sorry about your ooops. Somehow one of mine got completely knocked out of the ground. I suspect an errant dog. It was the kind that has the nub sticking up way at the top. Now it looks like a broken stick, with this little red bud at the end.
Was checking this morning on the NE side of the house [close] and one of my old fashioned peonies has sent up one pip.
Wonder if it knows what it is doing. We had a heavy snow fall last fall prior to the ground freezing and now I am sure glad that I trimmed off the dead foliage. Makes for an easier spring.
May not work but if you have a tree peony stem with bud attached try rooting it in either sand, if you have it, or regular soil. I have had one the deer did this to and it rooted and sent up new foliage later in the year.
Closeup of the vine-like stolons with eyes. The center root section appeared to have eyes but it was planted more deeply in order to keep the stolons below the surface. Another couple of weeks should tell the story.
My standard peonies all have eyes/buds/pips above ground but they have not begun to open and put up leaves or stalks yet. We are having 50 degree weather for awhile so they should break open at any time.
Wow, OGR, your grass is greener than mine is :-) I meant you ask you, how is Hidden Valley anyway? I visited their website a couple of times and it seems nice - is the quality good compared to the other big names like Klehm or Hollingsworth or Adelman?
Wow - some of you in zones 5 and 6 have pips on all of your peonies? I still have some that have not broken ground yet. Neither of my "Kansas" has and they're supposed to be early. I do have many that have, however.
Hidden Springs was good to me. I first ordered the Early Scout with a shipping charge of $11.50 which was USPS priority mail. I later added the species fern leaf and they automatically deducted the separate charge for another shipment and just added the order to the first one. The fernies and scout do not have the large root system of the herbaceous but they came as advertised.
They, like Ensata Gardens with their irises, do not guarantee plant survival. It is up to the buyer to check their order prompty and report any problems. The guarantee is the items ordered will be of top quality when you receive it. Correct planting is left up to the buyer.
They appear to be a reliable source for species peonies where a lot of the other growers do not want to handle them. The price was reasonable. I paid $28.99 for the species fernie and $22.99 for the Early Scout. Plus shipping.
Actually, all my peonies are later than last year due the extended sub-freezing weather. Last year they began growing too quickly and were harmed by late freezes.
The grass is from 9-30-09 when I received the roots from HS.
Corrected Hidden Valley to Hidden Springs Flower Farms. I always have a mental block toward "hidden valley" for some unknown reason.
Steve, I have pips on all but one of my peonies. If your Kansas is like my Kansas, you will have a bit of a wait. In this pic of Mrs. FDR and Festiva Maxima, you'll see Kansas in the background, still in bud while the other two are blooming. It's this way every year. I was surprised, since it's supposed to be early, in the nature of many reds. And it breaks dormancy in a slower fashion than most of my others. I used to worry about it every year.
Thanks Donna, for the reassurance!! That does make me feel better. BTW I just love that profile shot of your peonies - beautiful!!
Funny thing about "Hot Chocolate" - I bought it because Klehm claimed it was an early bloomer. It turned out to be one of my latest-blooming peonies. I bought more last fall at Hollingsworth who classified it as a "late", correctly. HMMM...
I wonder why the bloomtime descriptions so often are inaccurate?
I find that where I plant the peonies in my yard makes a huge difference in when they bloom. The ones that gets morning light mature and bloom earlier. The ones that doesn't get sunlight until late afternoon is always the slowest to bloom. A friend of mine sent me a box of peony roots from Minneapolis because he was redoing his yard. I planted these two where they get sun most of the day, and and shaded late afternoon. They are about a foot tall now.
This is from the same batch, planted where it doesn't get any sunlight til late afternoon. It is barely breaking ground. It will be very interesting to see how these transplants from the cold recesses of Minnesota does in the mild winters of Sacramento. I do hope they do well here because they are supposed to be reds, and I don't have any red peonies.
You are very welcome, Steve! You always say the sweetest things about my yard - I love it.
Soils, what you say is interesting. I have a bunch of peonies in a bed on the southern side of my yard, and although there is no more than perhaps 20 feet between them, the ones further east bloom earlier (Kansas is a little further west). But if a peony REALLY blooms early (Burma Ruby) it doesn't seem to matter that it is on the north side of my yard and under a viburnum prunifolium and a cotinus 'Grace'. I'm really enjoying the pics of your developing peonies.
Steve, I have been using the Heartland Peony Society bloom sequence list, which can be viewed alphabetically or sequentially. I originally bought peonies utilizing it as a reference. I wanted, at the time, a long season of bloom.
I also find it curious that, using Red Charm as 0, Festiva Maxima is supposed to bloom 3 days after Red Charm and Kansas 5, but as you can see in the photo FM was well ahead - and I put in FM and Kansas the same year.
Hum, indeed. I think that some of the sellers have figured out that some of us are after the early bloomers, so they stretch it a bit. It's nice having Burma Ruby - I used to have to wait for FM to bloom and now Burma jumps right out. Am I wrong, I think red peonies look better in the yard than they do in photos.
I went to nursery to buy bamboo sticks today and guess what I saw. Tree Peony. Had to buy one. Hmmm. Other than they do not die back completely, do I need to know anything else about them? May be I will get flowers on them this year.
I suspect as far as the bloom sequence is concerned that those peonies were probably in the best spot i.e. minimum 6 hours sun/day and we maybe dont always have ours in the same locations
I too have been buying by bloom time the past couple of years, looking for early bloomers,
last year was 'first' year for some of the early ones and a very long cold spring so not sure yet how they will do. I buy mine from Lindsay D'Aoust and she just grades them by week which is handy.
Thanks for the info, Donna, I will check it out!!!! My Red Charms and FM's are both showing pips but neither very far along. My various "Burmas" are further along as is Paula Fay,and my Rasberry Charms and Cherry Charms are right up there just behind the two older Abalone Pearls in development. I don't really pay attention to sprouting times of new plantings since they're always skewed way off their nnormal timetables the first year.
My peonies have just started sprouting. I live in Oklahoma. I have a question for all the pro's. How is the best way to stake your peonies so that they will not fall over when they bloom? Thanks for any expert tips you may have. Susan
yeah, mine are no where that size yet, but many of them are peeping up. However, there are 2 I am anxious to see and they are not up yet. Garden Treasure and Merry Mayshine. I hope they are late bloomers. I don't think my Hot Chocolate are up either. And where did I plant my Kansas???
Keeping my fingers crossed that it will come up for you, too. It is always so sad when a plant doesn't make it - I planted two red charms this year, and I think one is a goner. The coral charm next to it is about a foot tall, and nothing from the red charm. Since it is in the same area, with same light and warmth, it should be up by now.
Congratulations as well, Nicole! Do you have others you've already had in the ground for more than one year? What kind of bloom have you had? I wouldn't worry too much about Kansas as I think that as my last one to sprout - funny as I was thinking it was supposed to be an early. Donna set me straight on that one. Hot Chocolate I know is a late from my own experience so I would not worry about that one yet either.
Soils, sorry to hear about your Red Charm. Any ideas you might know of why it didn't make it? You're right; it should be up by now. I have several of them...a couple in their second year and more in their first year and all seem to have flowerbuds so i am excited. I planted two of them in 2008 and got beautiful flowers first year. I can see why it is one of the all-time most popular peonies.
Steve, I was out planting yesterday and saw that Hot Chocolate is peeping out. Now if only my yellow peony would. I have lot of no tag peonies because I didn't know better before I joined Dave's. I do know I have a Karl Rosenfield though and many no id pink peonies. I'll post photos when they bloom. Sometime I plant stuff thinking I will remember what I plant and then later going what is that.
Big Red, this will be my first year for the Hot Chocolate. Hope it will bloom but it was a large plant so it should. It looks burgandy to me. Steve could tell us for sure.
OGR, love your peony shot. Oh well, just know that when ours are finished yours are just getting started!
Congratulations,, Nicole - always exciting to see them first come up. Any buds yet? I am so happy in that all of mine year 2 and later and nearly all of the first year ones have at least one flowerbud. BTW see below for a picture of Hot Chocolate last year. This ended up being one of my latest blooming peonies. Still did well, even in the heat. Yes, I think burgundy is probably the closest color.
This is from 2008 because the pics I took during 2009 were when it was windy or raining so this one is better and best captures the color in the sun. Is darker in non-sun
Steve, so pretty. Can not wait to see blooms. Many of the peonies are up! I have lots of buds on Merry Mayshine, I think 5 or 6. Also a no id one has about 7 buds on it. I can't tell if it's a Karl Rosenfield yet until it blooms. I am worried that my yellow peony has not shown any sign of green. Please please please. I wonder if Hollingsworth will replace if it doesn't sprout greens. I think all my other peonies from Hollingsworth are up.
Regarding Hollingsworth, I actually visited their nusery last year and bought from them first time last fall on recommendation by Ticker (Diann). Their "nursery" is really just a typical family farm with a big white farmhouse and barn. Mr and Mrs Hollingsworth of course live there and they have two guys wgho run their nursery year round and I believe seasonal help during planting/harvesting. Really nice people and very down to earth. I would be surprised if they did not work with you but all you can do is ask.
I was really impressed with the roots I got from them as well - nearly every one has a bud - not bad for first-year plants. How many years have you had peonies? My oldest ones are about 4 years old and I planed them when I bought this house in fall 2006; I have added more every year and probably have about a hundred now. I have to be parient though and my hope is that in another few years I will have some big full plants like the ones our friends up north have!
I do have some of my very latest peonies JUST now coming up so you might want to wait a week till you get too worried. How deep do you plant yours? Mine have eyes right at or just below (1/4") surface.
In the foreground is Festiva Powder Puff that I got from Klehm about three falls ago. Got three blooms on it last year and including side buds I counted 15 this year!! Across the drive is my larger and earlier Abalone Pearl (also Klehm) in its 4th year and it has 10 buds - had six flowers last year.
Steve, 15 on one plant!!! I can not believe it. Oh, how I envy you.
So far, all the peonies I bought from Hollingsworth have sprouted, except 2. One of them is a farmstead. I've seen a few with buds on them already but many of them just came up and their leaves are just unfurling. I've had a few peonies for about 3-4 years now. Originally, my MIL had a huge one at her mailbox and every year in May she and my FIL would travel so I could come over and cut ALL the flowers to enjoy. One year, I hosted a party at my house and I had 3 vases full of peonies. They were incredible! And I killed ants for days!!! When my in-laws moved away, they let me dig some of it out. It was humongous and I could not get the whole thing out. That was the beginning of my love for peony. Now, I have a list of peonies that I want!
Many of my peonies bought before last year were small ones bought from wally world or some place that just gets those small plants. Hollingsworth sent huge plants with at least 3 eyes or more. I think my neighbor got a Bartzella from Hollingsworth with 6 eyes on it!!! Anyway, those no name peonies are now well over 3 or 4 years and they've bloomed for me last year. I have them all over the yard now. I am growing peonies instead of azalea (which is the staple of spring flowers in the south).
Anyway, I am just anxious because one it's a yellow peony and 2 I paid alot of money for it. As long as it comes up green, I'm good. It doesn't have to bloom this year - just so I'll know it's not dead.
'Pink Hawaiian Coral' is one of my favorites. I have had it for 8 years and it is just gorgeous. The stems are strong for me and I recommend it to everyone I know. Lol. If your plant is newer, in the first couple of years, then perhaps you aren't seeing its robust beauty...give it time...it's a beauty. It has never needed staking.
If you decide you hate it, just send it along to me ;)
Good to see the peony show underway. It's a great way to announce spring. Steve your place, as always, is just striking.
Why thanks Tracey - except your place is striking - I have seen the pictures! Especially during lily season. And now you need to post your peony pics this year since I know you have many - but Magnolia is so modest...and Tracey didn't you post a PHC last year? It was BEAUTIFUL - perhaps you should share the picture with Lili.
Nicole, that is great to hear. Sounds like you have had some good success then. Before I bought this house I had another place for about six years and also bought my first peonies at Home Depot or Lowes I think. Small plants as you state and took several more years to develop size or bloom. In fact would sometimes take three or more years to do what a first-year plant from Adelman, Hollingsworth or Klehm can do. They do cost more but are oh so worth it. You have to be careful - peonies are not that widely grown in the south (nothing like up north) and I saw some at Home Deport a few weeks ago in the display case. I definitely would not recomment spring planting HERE.
I have some Azaleas but they have not done that well due to our alkaline soil - even amending it to increase acidity has generated just-OK results for me. I have had really good luck with peonies though for some reason.
I am branching out more to try different peony types. Usually I depend on the singles or Japanese peonies as they do well in the south, even if considered "late" bloomers - the late doubles especially can get burnt in the heat which starts to arrive here in May though depends on the year. However, I am much more knowledgeable now than I used to be and have found there are some really nice early or early midseason doubles that do well here, so I get the best of both worlds.
I know I was a little miffed because Klehm stated Hot Chocolate was an early bloomer and Hollingsworth stated it was a late bloomer when i saw they carried it a couple of years later - I bought from Klehm based on that and sure enough was a very late bloomer as Hollingsworth had stated. But to my surprise it bloomed well into May with no issues and looked great. I had to have more and Klehm will often skip a year offering something to replenish stock I think so I bought more from Hollingsworth last fall...two of the three new ones have buds this year.
Yes soils, it is strange in that your tree peonies seem to bloom first but my herbaceous ones do. Unfortunately I am a little sad in that my "High Noon" which produced two blooms last year is not going to bloom this year (last spring was its first) - and neither are any of my other tree peonies. My Bartzella Itoh hybrid is also not going to bloom (produced two flowers last year which was also its first). On the other hand, my "Garden Treasure" Itoh has two buds on it; this spring is its first.
On the OTHER hand, virtually every herbaceous peony I have (probably near 100) has buds on it and all of those planted 2008 and prior have multiple flowers coming. Maybe tree peonies and those with TP heritage are more finicky?
Yes Donna - I have three or four - want one for that empty spot you have?? ^_^
And here are the Early Scouts I accidentally planted about three years ago on top of my Sir Winston Churchill daffs that I forgot were down there...they produced about three blooms last year and I counted six this year. Don't have the heart to dig them up and move them.
Tom Cat really coming along - planted three years ago. Foliage died off early first year and I thought these were goners, I got seven flowers between these plants last year, and will easily get double or more than that this year.
Hey I wouldn't turn down one either. I only have three right now. One of them was surposed to have 2 in the package, but there were actually 4 in it. One is very small and will need a couple of years to grow up. The other three are doing great and growing taller everyday.
I don't know if it will work but one of the old Brent & Becky's catalogs mentions planting tulips deeper than normal to have them return. You can always try the specie tulips.
Tom Cat has the problem of retiring earlier than some of the other peonies. Interesting that your tree peonies bloom later than the rest. Last year my latest bloom was a tree peony. I am interested to see if other southern growers have similar bloom periods.
Sorry to hear about your 'High Noon' - was it this wierd winter weather?
Mine got buried in snowdrifts in December before I could clean the leaves off of it, until early March when it finally melted, I had to prune a lot of dead wood and broken branches, and its shrunk a good foot in height, but lots of new growth coming out, so should be some blooms from the lower branches at least. My herbaceous peonies (Festiva maxima and Kansas I believe) are growing well, the plant on the south side has already reached the support hoop.
LOL soils it started in jealousy - see I am from IL and I missed growing all of the things I used to see and take for granted up north. Then I encountered peoplle like Ticker, Donna, Magnolia, Maxine, etc from my old neck of the woods and I wanted what they had. So now that I have found I can be successful I am overcompensating heheh
ah3815, true, I have read the same thing about tulips - I do plant mine deep - and also I make sure the spot is well drained and stays dry in summer. THAT seems to have a big impact.
I have one small patch of tulips near one of my peonies that has been returning for four years now (those pictured), and some small clumps here and there two or three years. We had a cold winter this year which i am sure helps. As a rule I do not expect good return so when I get it I am thrilled.
It must have been, Richard - well there is always next year. And sorry to hear about your damaged tree peonies. I always thought the herbaceous ones would be tougher to grow but not so. Be sure to post yours when they bloom!
Other than removing any leaf material on the tree peonies I leave the pruning until about this time of the year. Occasionally what appears dead is not but more importantly if there is dead wood the deer will think the rest is also dead and not bother the rest of the plant. On the tp's that grow from the tip rather than putting up side shoots I leave last fall's leaf stems as a crown for the same reason.
Once I realized this I have had less problem with deer destroying the next years growth. Of course I have had fawns wander through tasting every plant so nothing is fool proof.
It appears that tree peonies seem to do better in places where the winter is not so harsh??? I have had good luck with all of my regular tree peonies so far - I have about 5 varieties and they have bloomed every year. The only casualty I had was when I tried to move a gorgeous red one from the rear of the planter to closer to the front where it can be better seen - I ended up killing it instead. I purchased my first intersectional peony - Singing in the Rain - this year, so it will be interesting to see how that does.
Have to make a comment as I lurk here: my aunt in Hermiston OR had two beautiful tree peonies I coveted...I just spent 10 days with her and she had had them removed & tossed!!!!! said she didn't like them after all 'cause the blossoms were down inside the plants, didn't stand out...I would've come & dug them myself if I'd known...never enough peonies in my yard...NEVER!!!! Deb
Wow Steve - lilies narcissi, tulips and peonies all in bloom at once. It looks glorious - and you must be in heaven. It is so wonderful watching you start from scratch, with that big empty canvas. It's as though we are seeing your dreams (that's what my garden is to me, anyway, so maybe I'm projecting) and what I see is a fabulous person who takes a big old bite out of life.
I think you must be right, soils - we did have a harsh winter also (for us) but nothing like what many of those up north get. I think our lowest temp was 11 or 12.
I agree about the poor tree peonies - I can hardly bring myself to dig up/throw away ANYthing, even if I don't like it. I guess I can make a bed for orphans that need to be moved.
Aww Donna, thanks for the kind words - but you're quite a sweetheart yourself. I agree you can see a lot in a person by how he/she gardens :-) BTW I love your photos - and especially the last one - that time when everything first starts coming up is magical.
Here is my last-fall-planted "Cream Puff" which opened today - got it from Adelman last fall after I saw how much I loved the one I planted year prior (it has 4 or 5 buds and I can't ait for it to bloom as well!)
This winter was a bad one, and a long one. From right after Thanksgiving until the beginning of March, we did not get a break from it. Never had to prune so much off the TP since I dug it up and rebuilt the retaining wall around its bed. Also had to prune back clematis vines that had covered my arch in the backyard, nothing higher than 4 inches above the ground survived.
Correction - after the big April freeze in 2007, I had to prune out about half the TP, but not only did it put out new growth, I even got a couple late flowers. This doesn't look half as bad as that did.
From your descriptions, it was a brutal winter in many parts of the United States. I thought it was bad when we had 3-4 days of 24-25 degree nights, but that must have been a "warm" spell for you. I am glad you all pull through the winter OK and hope that spring is just around the corner for you.
Steve, impressive front flowerbed. I am jealous you have blooms already. The peonies that I've had in the past usually blooms in May, always 1st or 2nd week in May and last about 2-3 weeks. Then they are all gone. I will have to note to see if I have early bloomers.
I bought a Kinshi peony tree this year. There is a purple one too but I'm trying to find constraint.
The problem I have with tulips in my yard is that the squirrel digs them out...
we would have LOVED to get 25 degree days this winter! Anytime the weather forecast anything near 30 degrees, we told ourselves "we'll believe it when we see it."
March came and a switch flipped, in a week we went from feet of snow to mud puddles, right now daffodils and forsythia are going wild, magnolias are starting to open, and trees are budding out everywhere.
On a related, peony-based issue, does anyone know where I can find the old variety 'Nebraska'? I found one place in Canada, but the Garden Watchdog gave them mixed marks.
The Peony Garden aka the Franklin Nursery Peony Superstore. He advertises peonies that are very hard to find. There are very mixed reviews there, but I have to tell you, I ordered three when I was starting out and two of them are the most incredible I've ever seen - Mrs. FDR and Cornelia Shaylor. One of the two had seven eyes, the other five, and they bloomed the spring after installation. The 3rd was Pfeiffer's Red Triumph, which is impossible to find, and it was a small root, which I buried much too deeply. After 3 years I dug it up and it was alive but I realized I'd blown it, so gave up on it, which I shouldn't have.
Mrs. FDR last year - Cornelia in the background.
They were the first peonies to need staking because of their enormous size, and they were not the first peonies I had ordered - it was the second year. And I found dealing with him really easy. I remember talking to him on the telephone.
So, my take is that you are dealing with a consolidator, and if you want older peonies you are going to get big honking ones. If he is the only source for a peony you might get a smaller root. And I had no guidance from this forum, or Pfeiffer would probably be out there blooming now. But honestly, I am so happy that I ordered these from him.
I have ordered from Ken(Peony Garden)in the past - incidentally looking at Garden Watchdog most of the reviews are positive. I dont know how many of the peonies he advertises he actually grows, just not possible that he has them all- musy be brokering for other growers.
The roots I received from him have been fine although consistently somewhat smaller than I get from other growers. In addition I have been able to get novelty peonies from him that others have not carried. It is possible that the roots of hard to find peonies are smaller exactly for that reason - not many around so only smaller roots available.
I would go ahead and order from him if he is the only one who has what you want!
DonnaMack never give up on a peony! LOL!
Those peonies are gorgeous!
The owner of Peony Garden, Ken Clare, passed away. I think last year so new management.
Most peony growers are consolidators if you want to know the actual truth. They would not be able to provide plants that originated at another grower if they did not.
Have wondered if any of the members in the South are planing on doing in hybridizing. It would be a good method of developing peonies that are happier in warmer environments. Even if you have a no name aunt jane's peony if it is happy with you a cross with another peony could make for an even hardier peony.
Soils, I would really encourage you to acquire Mrs. FDR. It's fun in that it completely changes shape. First the flowers are tightly curled, then they bloom, then they fluff out. It is easy and floriferous and scented. And because (although I personally have never seen it in anyone's yard) it is in good distribution, your chances of getting a plant with multiple eyes at a reasonable price are probably decent, although I have noticed that the oldies but goodies are shooting up in price.
I just love gardening. It's one of the few things in life in which there is (despite voles, rabbits, deer and japanese beetles) some correspondence between what you put into it and what you get out of it. It's such a shock to walk out during peony season and look at these lovely things and say to yourself, I did that? I love roses too, especially old garden ones, but peonies require so little effort for the beauty they provide.
Thank you. Praise from the Master is praise indeed!
I have my first bloom. It normally blooms around March 27 but is late this year. It was even late coming up.
I have no way of posting pictures with my pc so think of a blueish pink cup. The leave emerge from the ground as a goblet shape then unfold. I received as an auction plant from Don Smith the hybridizer not the one in Kentucky.
Couldn't find a good place to post this and did not want to start a new thread but you all might be interested.
Yesterday I was working at the Peony Society booth at the Hor. Society's 2 day garden show.
In the booth there was a huge container of very long pale stems. There is a fellow living here who has been growing herbacious peony from seed , he also specialised in tree peonies that will grow in this zone. Apparently he is moving and has to down size his plants. He had this huge plastic cart in his garage in which he had planted seed 3 years ago.- herbacious type.Because they didnt get enough light the stems are very long and very white! However he donated it to the Peony Society to sell the roots at the show as a fund raiser. We had a fun afternoon digging in the dirt and getting roots seperated out and bagged for people to buy for 4%. Or a free one if they took out a membership.
The neat thing is nobody knows what they will look like! no idea of color, size, except we are told they are herbacious. But apparently they dont come true from the seed. Wish we had given everybody who bought one a card to let us know what colr they turned out to be!
This is one I brought home yesterday, must have about 8 eyes on it. Some roots come out with no stem and just a single eye but we bag them up and tell people to plant them anyway!
This is "Dawn Glow" - none of my Hollingsworth bonuses. I bought 8 peonies from them (well one was a kind f expensive Itoh) but they sent me 6 bonus plants! I think this is really kind of cool looking...
If you want another one that is similar try Athena. One draw back for some is that Athena's blooms will vary in different soil conditions and from year to year. Which for me makes it very interesting because I never know what it will look like this year.
ah, you know it is interesting that you mention "Athena" because while I do not have that one, I have seen it pictured and was JUST thinking when I saw this how much it resembled Athena! Good to hear the confirmation on the similarity.
Aww thanks Donna - you are so sweet LOL.
Thanks Nicole, I love it as well and another I am far more impressed with than I thought I would be is "America" - I am visualizing a large bush covered with those huge red blossoms.
My 4-yeal old Abalone Pearl is starting to bloom today...
Donna, your cherry tree is gorgeous! I have some cherries but mine are not at the stage yours are in terms of maturity/beauty. I think mine might be another kind as well - Kwanzai maybe?
More on my Abalone Pearl bush in bloom ...
Hah! I was offered Bowl of Beauty last year, somebody wanted to get rid of their peonies ( just a couple- I think the other was Festiva Maxima which I have) and guess what I refused it because I had 4 on order plus was rescueing several!
See I cant order too many each year because I have to keep creating the space and I can't expand the beds! LOL!
Give me 10 years and I wont have anything much but peonies!
Steve, talk about perfect! Your Abalone Pearl is just wonderful. It's so great - your natural eye is different from mine and leads me to exquisite peonies I would not have noticed if I didn't see how glorious they are in your yard.
Well thank you all for the nice words! It DOES look good when it opens - and actually is holiding its color pretty well this year. Only think I do not like about Abalone Pearl is that it fades badly to white very quickly after open, in just a few days. Maybe not so much for you all since your sun is not so intense as here -althougyh RrrrGrrr you may have the same problem I do with it since we're at a similar latitude! :-(
Donna, that is the cool thing about DG - we get to see each others' perspectives and a new "eye' so to speak on gardening...and it makes me realize just how much more accomplished many are than I am in terms of form, planning, layout, etc. I have so much to take in and learn!! I am not a patient gardener and tend to throw things in the first available patch without as much thought as I should give as to how everything will look down the road. I call my style "haphazard", LOL.
Well, I was surposed to have an acre to plant, but my sister has deeded the 1/2 acre next door to her daughter who is planning on moving a trailer on it this summer and moving in. So she said MAYBE she will let me plant some over there, but can't do anything till shes moved in and decides to let me. OH WELL!
From experience do not plant anything on her area. There is deep heart break from coming home and finding things wiped out because they did not suit the other person. Happened not in my garden but my kitchen when hubby, who is normally not an idiot, allowed his daughter to redo my kitchen while I was at work.
I don't plan on planting anything over there until at least next year. And my niece says she'll have to approve anything I plant. If I know her the yard will stay weeds and grass. But I'm happy getting my half acre ready and planning what to put where.
ah, I had to laugh - I know it's not funny to you, but I can't believe someone would mess with a woman's kitchen! Kind of cracked me up thinking about your reaction and what they must have been thinking.
Well thanks all. Maxine I am glad you are finally becoming a convert to some of the singles. Not only do they provide great contrast to the doubles, they stand up a lot better to bad weather.
Donna, your peonies are looking wonderful. I am hoping for mine to be so full one day. I am glad everything is finally shooting up for you!
I think this is "Top Hat" by elimination of everything else. Definitely a Hollinsworth peony from the green tag but the lettering has worn off. Very pretty at any rate!
Oh, Steve, I love it! It looks like White Cap's first cousin. I installed fall before last and actually got a flower last year. It really shot out of the ground this year and I am looking forward to showing it to you. My peonies are looking really healthy and I am thrilled with them.
And wow, ah - did your hubbie understand that he was taking his lfe in his hands?!!!
Gotta show you this. Look carefully and you will see Festiva Maxima in the company of recycled tulips under a stem of Constance Spry. I think CS is going to have to be pruned in the future.
So much for tidiness! It's going to be quite a party there.
Hubby still thinks his daughter did a great job. On his daughter he is dense. How any person that loves cookbooks could actually put them on wire shelves is beyond me. Now part of them are on nicely finished wooden shelves. I have too many cooking books for just the one bookcase even if it is 91 inches tall and almost scrapes the ceiling.
I just brought this up as an example of what Marti planted on the 1/2 acre that was not hers and she came home to find her sister had moved or tore things out because it was not her style.
Thanks soils!! But I don't have 100 varieties - I have a hundred or more individual plants, with multiples of each variety. But I still have not posted most so thanks for the new thread! Couldn't take pictures today because it's been raining non-stop since Friday afternoon :-( Next week should be a big bloom-week assuming the weather clears up.
Found someone who has a peony in their front yard. They say its a white one, they do not know the name but if I want to they will let me dig some of it up. It takes up about a 3 foot round area. When can I go in and cut out of section?
August/Sept. I'll remember that. No the people are not moving so I have time to wait. The lady has just stopped doing anything with her yard and all the plants are becoming over grown, so she said I can help myself. She also has Iris that are now growing thru the fence into her neighbors yard and into her lawn. So I get to remove them too. Have no idea of the color but they are all budded up and I will take pictures.