Pamela Crawford and side planting containers

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

I wanted to get some opinions on Pamela Crawford's products, and also on side planting. I found her planters in a Kinsmangarden.com catalogue that I received a couple of months ago. Although the planters seem pricey, I really like the look of the finished product. I especially like the border columns that you can put in your garden, and am seriously considering trying this. If anyone has any experience with these products, I would love to hear it.

Essentially, the basket allows you to easily plant flowers in the top as well as the side, which grows into a large full looking planter. The border columns allow this to be elevated in the garden. This picture is from her website, http://sideplanting.com/default.asp?action=drawpage&pageid=22.

The second question that I have is the actual plants to be used. In her website, all the plants she recommends are for shade or partially shady area. I am thinking about using this in full sun areas, but I hesitate to spend a lot of money if it isn't practical in these areas. I'm wondering if others have done something similiar, and if so, which plants they might recommend. These are her recommendations http://sideplanting.com/images/recommendedplants.pdf.

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Silver Spring, MD(Zone 6b)

I've been wanting to buy her book but wanted to see it in book store first to see if it worth buying and easy to follow her instructions. Those fiber-like shells she plants in, don't they have a tendency to dry out easily? It sure has been my experience when I[ve purchased hanging baskets made from those. Could you do the same concept with the bloommaster pots?

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

What's a bloommaster pot?

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

http://www.bloommaster.com/

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

Pirl, the bloommaster pots have the same look when they are planted! I have a master gardener class this morning at Merrifield nursery, and I'm going to see what they have in stock. Both of these products look great, but they are are pricey. I also like the fact that the bloommaster is recommending petunias. I already have some started, but I probably should get another couple of packages this morning.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I'd like to see them in bloom in person. They look so nice in photos.

Silver Spring, MD(Zone 6b)

Bloommaster has its own website, I believe. Google Bloomaster flower pots. They are made of plastic from the picture where Pamela's creations are made from those fiber type basket liners if I'm not mistaken. I can't recall where I saw the video of her but I'm sure if you google her name, it will come up with the site also. Kinsman gardening supplies may have something on their site about her products. It just came into my head! LOL! Aging isn't for sissies! Her video makes it look simple but I still think you have to have some creativity about you to put together the right colors,right type of plants,etc.

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

I looked around at my nursery today, but they didn't have anything similar, so I guess I'll figure out if I'm going with Pamela Crawford or Bloommaster Pots. I love that full look.

Concord, CA(Zone 9a)

Hi,
I tried the Pamela Crawford side planters last year. I live in N.CA where the summers are hot and dry. Well, the only problem I has was watering these pots it was a real challenge for me. I hope to hook up a drip system this year. Also the squirrels seem to love these pots and thought they were the perfect place to dig. lol
Mine never got as full as I had hoped. I planted inpatience, petunias, kale, all sorts of things. Some were in full shade and some in full sun. I was disappointed but I think it was my failure to keep them watered. These would work better if you get summer rain. Oh I forgot to mention I used some of those water chrystles
Just my experience.

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

Linda, thanks for your information. I think that I am going to try Pamela Crawfords, column baskets near my front door. I know that in past summers, I needed to water my pots daily, even when using the water crystals. I hope that this works out well.

Concord, CA(Zone 9a)

Good luck. They are so beautiful. I am definately going to try again this year. I also have the column baskets. They look really nice under my redwood trees. now just need to figure out how to keep them watered. lol
Post pictues when you get them going I would love to see them.

Kansas City (Joyce), MO(Zone 5a)

I don't know much about her, but when I grown in that type of pot I put an old plastic plate at the bottom of the pot to hold moisture in. I think last year I used the plastic drip trays that have a small edge. That really helps in holding some water. Otherwise in the sun I am guessing it would be a twice a da project to keep them watered around here.

Savannah, GA

Pamela Crawford. I purchased her book (which is filled with fantastically staged photos of flowers with veggies). But. I was disappointed by her guide to buy side-plant gardening accessories in order to achieve HER result. Those side mounted planters she recommends consume copious amounts of water and should come with their own garden worker to water them several times a day during the hot season. Not good.

The cost of her source to purchase the accessories to complete this "look" is far out of my normal range, so I quickly returned the book to my garden store. I agree that the photos look great, but I consider the idea impractical for the average person.

Also, she writes about having gone through 2300 plants to achieve 200 veggie/flower combos that work well. I also live in hot and humid Georgia, as does the writer, so I understand first hand hand her trials, but....I think I'll look around, wait, and be patient for another similar idea that is #1 less costly and #2 less LABOR INTENSIVE.

Kansas City (Joyce), MO(Zone 5a)

I also bought the book, but I don't see why I can't use a normal hanging pot to acheive the same thing with maybe some adjustmernts. I have lots of haning pots and we get over 100 degrees here during the summer. We are said to have winters like Wisconsion and summer like Georgia.....I do have to water the my hangers everyday, especially because they hang on the edge of the porch. I think that is just a given. The only problem I see is if you don't start the plants from seed you will have a lot of cost because the pots are extrememly full.

Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

Mrdonald1 ~ I suppose household help in the south isn't what it used to be. I thought every one had a maid and a cook.

Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

pirl ~ I followed your link to the bloomaster website ~ WOW! they sure look great! I wonder if joannabanana uses them....hers are spectacular! She is in the annuals forum.

Kansas City (Joyce), MO(Zone 5a)

evelyn, I will have to go look her up on the annuals. I want really pretty pots and hangings this year..... I am willing to go the extra mile....LOL

Columbus, OH

Wouldn't a large drill bit and a good-sized hanging basket or pot accomplish the same thing?

McLean, VA(Zone 6b)

I really like the look of the baskets on the columns. I want something large to flank my front door. I have agonized over these because they aren't inexpensive, but I have decided to take the plunge and get them. The bloommaster pots wont work for me because I don't have a secure way to put them in another pot so that they don't move. I think that for any other usage, I would prefer the bloommaster.

I am not anticipating a display as large as Pamela Crawford's, but I hope that it is eye-catching, when it is finished.

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North Pole, AK(Zone 1)

Mrdonald1...DITTO! Pamela Crawford's book was the biggest waste of gardening $$$ I've spent so far this year. Wish I'd looked it over a bit more before purchasing. And my garden center won't take back books.

Covington, LA(Zone 8b)

I have a bloomaster box planter and absolutely love it. Actually I plan on getting two more. The one I have has done great it is in partial shade. I have begonia's, impatients, geranium, pentas, scavolia in it. This is a picture one week after planting I will send an updated picture tomorrow.

I live in south Louisiana and I am also worried about the heat - I would like to have the next planter in direct sun. Anyone have any suggestions of what can stand the heat? I am looking into installing a drip system for these pots has anyone attempted that.

Thanks,

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Wauchula, FL(Zone 9b)

I just got yhe newsletter from Lowes [Finr Gardening] & it has insructions for making a hanging basket Looks pretty simple. I may try it!
Lorine

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Here's a link to it:

http://www.finegardening.com/how-to/articles/build-a-hanging-basket.aspx

Kansas City (Joyce), MO(Zone 5a)

pirl, I saw that in the magazine and thought it was quite clever. Wonder if you used a small white styrofoam cooler and painted it green, but holes in the bottom for drainage. It would keep the sun from heating up the soil and I would think it would help hold moisture..... The plants planted on the edge should hide the cooler, and the top would spill over.....sounds extreme but in a warped sense just might work...LOL, actually now that I think about it, I wonder if you could use those sheets of insulating foam for houses. Cut the size you want, glue together and paint....?

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I just don't know if the coolers would accept spray paint. It flakes off so many other things like outdoor pots.

Kansas City (Joyce), MO(Zone 5a)

Oh I didn't know that, about flaking paint and styrofoam. Darn and here I thought I was being so cleaver....rofl I have some outdoor pots that need repainted, what have you used with success, anything? I like that muted non glossy color they come with when you first purchase them......but have no idea what kind of paint that is. I could probably go to a paint store and take one.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Couldn't you cover the cooler with burlap and tack it (gently) in place?

There are spray paints just for plastic. There's a wide selection of colors but I don't know if the outside pots are actual plastic or some other material. Maybe you could bring one with you to the paint store and ask what you should use.

Richland, WA(Zone 7b)

I have used spray paint on a styrofoam cooler and it melted the foam! The idea of covering it with burlap (or other fabric) sounds good. I plan to create some sort of planter with side planting- just haven't got to it yet! I saved a "topsy turvy" tomato deal from last year (what a farce that is!) and may cut some holes in the sides. But upside planting is just way too bizarre- roots will NOT grow upward-it is unnatural. If you want to make a hanging tomato, simply use a strong bucket with a good handle, and plant the tomato in the top and let it cascade down- The roots can fill the soil as they were intended to.

Edmonton, AB(Zone 3a)

Pain for styrofoam has to be from a craft store. They make one that is for foam that will not eat the styro. I found that covering the styrofoam with landscape fabric and glue guning some sticks or bark to it works. This seems to only last one season and I'm looking for my photos of this project.
I have a friend who has a restaruant and she gets big fish in long styrofoam containers with lids and I have been saving some to do a hypertufa form but haven't got around to it yet. I have used them to start or grow on my Sempiviviums and as long as I poke holes in the bottom they work fine.
Ann

Savannah, GA

evelyn_inthegarden....you're right about not having quality household help in the deep south homes anymore. But I am the help! The dixieland-gone-with-the-wind type of "colored" help. Big laughter.

Pirl, thanks for your 411 on the Bloom Master website and their line of affordable side-planters. I will give them a test run, and report back to this thread.

Back to evelyn_inthegarden, girl I's jes' messin' witcha Ma'am, I am not the hired help here in hot and beautiful Savannah....but I am "colored", as we were once called in the south. Big Smile.

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Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

I did not mean to offend you, I hope that you understand, as I am the "hired-help" as well. I just think that all gardeners should have people at their "beck and call" as all of it is just darn hard work, and no rest all year, as even in winter time, we should be starting seeds and making plans for the next season's success.

Sometimes DH will help, as we are both retired now, so I guess I should call myself lucky.

In your picture, you look more like a "rock star", than a gardener. I am an old lady, but yet a young gardener....to paraphrase an old saying....

Happy gardening,

Evelyn

Columbus, OH

I am a moderately old, moderately experienced gardener from the Midwest, I'm the non-hired help, lol. And you absolutely *do* look like a rock star!

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I'm my own hired help and with a granddaughter almost 19 I can't claim I'm 29 anymore!

What I really want is a cute pool boy. I don't have a pool but maybe I could train him to edge and pull weeds. It's worth a try, right?

Columbus, OH

I want a pool boy, but I don't have a pool. That would make my motivations rather transparent. LOL

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Having a pool is not a requirement for having a pool boy!

Couldn't we each have a pool boy and call it movable Garden Art?

Columbus, OH

Yes. Performance art. If he could play some mean blues guitar and occasionally lift those big bales of potting soil, that would be perfect. I would never go back in the house.

Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

pirl and Celene ~ re:pool boys....WOW, great idea, where do I sign up? (For weeding and yard work only, of course...nothing more)

Sierra Foothills, CA(Zone 8a)

pirl and Celene ~ re:pool boys....WOW, great idea, where do I sign up? (For weeding and yard work only, of course...nothing more)

Mrdonald1...it looks like we got our "hired help"!

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Evelyn - you get to sign up right after Celene and I do! We can share if they have triplets.

Love the, "...nothing more". Sure! Right!

Savannah, GA

You gals are outrageously funny! This has been hoot listening to y'all talk about triplet pool boys, "nothing more", and the like...like an episode of Desperate Housewives.. Somebody better warn the pool boy what's up when y'all keep dropping stuff so he can bend over the retrieve it. Rock Star? Wow, now that's really a compliment for this 28 year old, plus three decades. Thanks for the belly laughs ladies...a real treat. Here's some frolicking pool boys for you!

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