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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 6, 2010
9:53 AM

Post #7684169

Some of you have taken the big adventure and cast seeds on the snow or bare ground in the dead of winter.
Its hard to believe these seeds need a long cold period before they will germinate.
I am not completely sure seeds sown in April wont germinate too,its just that I have always gone by my grandmother way of doing it.
I saw my first leaves last year on April 17th.
I have been checking since we have had such a warm early spring and sure enough I believe these are them.
I will continue to photo them so we can identify and watch their progress.
These are Venus seeds,sown on the northeast side of the house after we laid down horse manuer so they should get to be a good size.
The sprouts are 2 pale graygreen thread looking leaves.
I will photo again in a few days. If by next week they have broadened out and are showing some serrated edges I will know for sure they are poppies.
I tried to look in the JI garden but cant get close enough to see.
These are really teeeeeny and you have to look realllly hard.
These are in the place where I sowed the poppies.

Lets hope it's them.

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paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2010
10:30 AM

Post #7686801

You should be able to tell when they get their second pair of leaves. They are pretty distinctive, as you know.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 7, 2010
10:55 AM

Post #7686864

I have had a positive id.
They are annual poppies.I am stoked.
I will take and post another pic in a week, should see second set of leaves then.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 14, 2010
2:15 AM

Post #7704259

O K it's been a week and we have had cold weather .
There isnt much to report as far as another set of leaves on those Venus babies.
They are there but my macro lense just isnt macro enough.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 19, 2010
4:36 AM

Post #7717290

O K so its been 2 weeks. Its been cold here and not enough progress of the Venus poppies to be of any note.
Here is what I took this AM
As you can see some of the earlier sprouts have second leaves and there is a huge load of newbies with 2 leaves comming on. I guess this means dont give up if you dont see all the sprouts at once.
When conditions are right the germination happens.
I am watching another part of the garden for poppies I sowed. Not a sprout but I wont loose hope until the lilies are blooming. LOL

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paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 21, 2010
3:55 AM

Post #7723304

They don't look like poppy seedlings to me. The second pair of leaves should be jagged.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 21, 2010
4:13 AM

Post #7723328

Wait 2 weeks.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
2:12 AM

Post #7726353

This is a clump of poppies in another garden.
I noticed them a week ago.They might be the ones I thought hadnt germinated. These are from One Stop Poppies.I hope.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2010
6:26 AM

Post #7726648

I am THRILLED that you posted that photo. I thought I had weeds but they were all so identical that I didn't move them, meaning to write to you. THANK YOU!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
7:32 AM

Post #7726829

I always sow very thick so I can ID the newbies.No weed comes up here in such abundance.
I am so glad about your poppies.
I made this diary so others wouldnt weed them out.It has happened to me so often.
Then there was the year I used Preen.
Dont go there.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2010
8:33 AM

Post #7726976

I'll take photos and post tonight.
paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
10:49 AM

Post #7727392

I wish you luck. The picture is kind of small, but those leaves still do not look like the true leaves of poppy seedlings. The initial leaves are the same in all dicotyledonous plants. They're called embryonic leaves. The second pair of leaves are called true leaves and should look like the leaves of a grown plant, only in miniature. Notice that the second pair of leaves in those pics are smooth and that the leaf itself is pointed. When I have grown poppy seeds, the second pair of leaves looks like a tiny poppy leaf, not pointed, not smooth. I have some seeds coming up now but they are only just germinating. Unfortunately, there are indeed weed seeds that will germinate like that. Chickweed, in particular.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
11:52 AM

Post #7727584

I'm still holding out for poppies.Cause thats where I threw the seeds.
Maybe i took a pic of weeds mixed in .
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 22, 2010
6:26 PM

Post #7728542

I hope these are the poppy seeds!

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paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 22, 2010
8:28 PM

Post #7728895

They sure look like poppies to me. See the jagged leaves that are the second set?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 23, 2010
1:55 AM

Post #7729229

Most definatly they are. Yours are several weeks ahead of mine.
That's what I expect to see in another couple of weeks.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

April 23, 2010
5:01 AM

Post #7729393

Thank you! A triple huge thank you to ge1836 for sending me the seeds! This just makes my day!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 23, 2010
5:35 AM

Post #7729445

teee hee
This diary is for gardeners who are sowing annual poppies for the first time.
I'll photograph in another couple of weeks.
Meanwhile Pirls are ahead of mine so hers are what mine will look like in a couple of weeks.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2010
8:16 AM

Post #7741900

They are looking more like poppies since we had 2 days of rain.

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paracelsus
Elmira, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2010
1:33 PM

Post #7742744

That one in the middle looks like it could be a poppy.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 27, 2010
1:59 PM

Post #7742813

There are more like it,these are the easiest to photograph with out doing damage to the lilies and iris
. I agree there might be a few weeds in there too.
Poppies will win.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

April 30, 2010
6:19 AM

Post #7750706

I am experimenting with direct sowing poppies now. We still have cold nights and some days in the 40's, there is a place where I want poppies and dont see any.
I double ordered Giant Whites and Hungarian Blues and will sow half the seeds. If no germination occures I will save the other half of the order for this fall.
corgimom
Pontotoc, MS
(Zone 7b)

May 1, 2010
4:06 PM

Post #7755162

Here in the south we have to sow in Oct/Nov. I was a little late this year (just lazy) - not throwing out most until Dec.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 1, 2010
4:21 PM

Post #7755203

It might not work because the nights are getting warmer.Its an amazing spring,almost a month early.
I do have sprouts from the poppies I sowed in November.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 3, 2010
12:11 PM

Post #7760620

My poppy seeds came and I have sown them and marked where I sowed. I'll check in a week to see if they germinated.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 3, 2010
12:44 PM

Post #7760714

Good luck!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 3, 2010
1:24 PM

Post #7760818

we will have cool nights this week after the front goes thru temps in the low 40's hope its enough.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
4:07 AM

Post #7791718

These are the poppies that started this thread.
The "late plant experiment" was started 10 days ago and there is no sign of germination.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 14, 2010
5:33 AM

Post #7791874

Thanks to you, ge, I have tons of your Heirloom poppies coming up and just tried moving a clump and it seems to have worked! I did it last week and it's remained perky.

The photo on the left shows them as of 5/1 - big difference from photo on right taken 4/21.

I think every seed must have germinated! Thank you, Jo Ann!

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
5:54 AM

Post #7791916

Pirl! I seem to remember someone on poppyforum last year ,say they do better if moved in a clump,almost a plug.I have never moved so many ,nor have I thinned them which would probably be a good thing.I am just too chicken to take a chance.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 14, 2010
6:13 AM

Post #7791966

I figured they were so thick that it couldn't hurt to take the chance. Taking a clump helps preserve the tender/tiny roots.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
6:32 AM

Post #7792028

Amen

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 28, 2010
6:30 AM

Post #7835692

Too hard to take a final picture of the poppies direct sowed last winter. Take my word for it they are 6 inches high and I am thinning them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 4, 2010
8:52 AM

Post #7858304

Its been awhile Here is the latest baby pic.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 4, 2010
11:35 AM

Post #7858657

Two beautiful Heirloom poppies, from seeds Jo Ann (ge1836) sent me, are blooming. I am SO happy! Thanks, ge!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 4, 2010
11:42 AM

Post #7858680

I meant to write to you to see if anything was blooming yet.
Do you have lots of buds?
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 4, 2010
11:46 AM

Post #7858690

Yes, I do. I'm beyond thrilled and I'd take photos but it's too hot out there for me. I get wimpier as I get older.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 4, 2010
11:50 AM

Post #7858697

Nothing like dealing with the bloodpressure problemd heat and humidity causes.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2010
8:12 AM

Post #7921882

This is what bloomed from last Novembers direct sowing.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 26, 2010
10:05 AM

Post #7922199

How lovely!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 28, 2010
2:09 AM

Post #7926588

It is so steamy today.Temp 74* and humidity 91% I will try to update annual poppies beginning here.Too dark now.
Pippi21
Silver Spring, MD
(Zone 6b)

July 2, 2010
11:14 PM

Post #7939544

Very interesting tuitorial! Now I have a question for you, when you have HOS like that and usually everybody has them their first year of WS, what is the best way to thin those delicate seedlings? When you thin them out while they are in the ground like yours was, I think I've seen pictures in gardening books that you just cut or pull carefully some of the seedlings to thin them out. Do you actually pull the seedlings up root and all and replant it elsewhere? I WS my Brillian red oriental poppies in milk jugs. I've had one to bloom but the other HOS still are struggling to grow, but when they got two sets of seeds, I planted them in flowerbeds. Maybe it would be easier to plant in flats or cell packs. Just an observation. It will be interesting thing to try sowing them like you did. I just can't imagine how the seeds would have found their way to the ground under 55 in. of snow we had last Feb. And them more when the sidewalks that led up to the house were shoveled and more snow thrown on top of snow. Our front yard became hugh mounds of snow where it was all piled from shoveling and the bobcat threw up there. There was no place to put all of the white stuff. Our court of 18 houses for a month looked like some of these pictures the astronauts send from outer space! Wouldn't it be a good experiment if a small airplane, like a crop duster type could just spread the seeds out a window from above and see all the poppies grow where they landed?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2010
1:58 AM

Post #7939611

I have never believed snow sown poppies germinate.I only have 1 instance of trying that.
I find a December day whan its still not snowing( our storms begin in January) I find a spot where I want the clump to grow and rake off any mulch os weeds or leaves and sprinkle in a 12 inch circle.This is to keep the plants from being mistaken for weeds in early May.
I doubt it's possible to transplant the plugs thaken from therse thick clumps of teeny weenies.Some people have had sucess with it but not me.There are going to be losses this "thick sow " way but once you establish a group that re seeds itself you should be on your way.

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Pippi21
Silver Spring, MD
(Zone 6b)

May 27, 2011
7:11 PM

Post #8591750

I hope I didn't miss something in your first message but do you recall when you direct sowed those poppy seeds? I'm assumming that one needs to clear away mulch so that the seeds will fall on bare soil? Do I need to kind of rake up the area first? I love that rock marker "Rose" was that to mark a rose bush or color or variety of poppy seeds?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 28, 2011
3:08 AM

Post #8592194

Yes you need to clean the area of anything that keeps the seeds from comming into contact with the soil.
The seeds need soil and light and a period of cold freezing weather in order to germinate.
Dont mulch over the sowen seeds either.
I sow in December to March but not later than that.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 28, 2011
6:31 AM

Post #8592398

Pippi - It was my marker you spotted for the Japanese iris, Rosewater. Thanks for the compliment.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 31, 2011
1:28 AM

Post #8598527

Guess I need an update here. Its 4:30 AM and too dark for a pix
at cha later.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 31, 2011
3:22 AM

Post #8598565

Remember the survivor from last winter.Here it is. Got a bud,cant wait to see if its Nice Red.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 31, 2011
3:23 AM

Post #8598567

This is the clump of Ry Beaners. Lavander with dark center.
I keep thinning.Its beyond reach now that lilies are filling in.

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tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2011
12:08 PM

Post #8655795


OK poppy lovers!

You got me hooked on this thread and now I need to know if they bloomed for you!?!

Did you think no one was lurking here?! t.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 26, 2011
1:50 PM

Post #8655966

Geezer moment sorry. The big patch of Venus poppies are barely starting to bloom.Buds still bent.
Here is the "Nice Red" that wintered next to a slab of granit in the garden

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 27, 2011
3:22 AM

Post #8657008

This is the patch April 8 2011

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 27, 2011
3:23 AM

Post #8657011

This was taken this morning.Its a day or 2 before they are all open

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 2, 2011
7:27 AM

Post #8667723

The poppies with the salmon lilies are the same as in the beginning of this years sown.
tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 2, 2011
5:55 PM

Post #8668703

Oh, so they aren't yet totally in bloom?

Poppies are mid summer bloomers and I always think of them as spring bloomers...

I'll check back in a couple of days for the full display!

Thanks. t.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2011
12:58 AM

Post #8669079

Guess it would have helped to have the full bloom photo.This is as good as they will get.

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tabasco
Cincinnati (Anderson, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2011
7:11 AM

Post #8669392

ge, how many different poppies are you growing??

I love the salmon colored ones in the last pic. Are they the Venus?

But somehow I thought poppies were tall and blowsy? Maybe those are a different kind?

Thanks for the follow-ups. I am finally getting the hang of poppies I think.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 3, 2011
7:14 AM

Post #8669395

Those are the selfseed Venus from last year. I am disapointed in them.Last years parents were as tall as the lilies.
These are whimps as are nearly all annual poppies growing in my gardens. I think it was the cold wet spring.

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