Photo by Melody

Soil and Composting: One flowerbed needs enriching

Communities > Forums > Soil and Composting
bookmark
Forum: Soil and CompostingReplies: 5, Views: 79
Add to Bookmarks
-
AuthorContent
Pippi21
Silver Spring, MD
(Zone 6b)

April 24, 2010
2:09 AM

Post #7732032

The soil in one of my flowerbeds that gets the morning and early afternoon sun needs enriching. It is very dry. Seems like roses is the only thing that grows there. How do I make that soil richer in the Fall. I have planted some of my WS plants there but they don't seem to be showing much growth. Last Fall, I was given a garden phlox and a black eye susan. Those have great growth so I am hoping they will bloom this summer. The 3 rose bushes that are planted there do beautifully. With the exception of the minature rosebush that I planted, the other two rose bushes were there when we moved here so I have no idea what variety they are, except what color blooms they produce. An ice plant that my daughter bought back from the beach has managed to grow there but hey, they should grow anywhere, right? I am surprized that the roses grow there. Most of that flowerbed is under the eaves of the house, so it doesn't get a lot of rainfall. I just transplanted a monarda that somebody gave me there, so I am hoping it takes off. Somebody else sent me some liatris and they have taken off and are showing potential. Would love to get more low maintence perennials started there. Any suggestions about enriching that soil? What do I add? top soil or garden soil or soil with composted manure?
PuddlePirate
North Ridgeville, OH
(Zone 5b)

April 24, 2010
11:41 AM

Post #7732959

Short answer: organic matter and ground cover. Compost (and other dead stuff) feeds the critters in the soil, and mulch/plants cover the soil to insulate it and retain moisture. Are you willing to defer the glory of floral profusion in this bed for several months to a year, or do you need a less-efficient fix soon?

"No-Till Gardening" -- http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/208/
"Compost in Place with No-Till Gardening" -- http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/800670/
"The Importance Of Microbes In Soil" -- http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1936/
"Composting, on the not-so-grand scale" -- http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1805/

This message was edited Apr 24, 2010 3:15 PM
Katye
Sammamish, WA
(Zone 7b)

April 24, 2010
9:21 PM

Post #7734479

For an immediate start that is inexpensive, I would add thin layers of Alfalfa pellets, straw, spent coffee grounds & some form of mulch over the top. This can be layered & will not harm the plants. No matter what you do, it will take time to improve the soil, but with some of the different ideas in the links P. Pirate posted, the sooner you begin the process, the better.
I use what I described first, with the addition of a layer of horse manure : I do not dig it in, but it's covered with fine bark, so it doesn't look funky! The worms will move into this area & work the layers for you. (so accomodating of them!) Besides enriching the soil, it also helps conserve moisture in the summer heat & makes for easier weed pulling.
This layering can be repeated as needed until Fall. I am in a maritime climate which has cool summers, so things take a bit longer to break down. Folks I know in warmer/hot climates see the layers settle more rapidly.
This is just one way to deal with your situation. Perhaps others will chime in with methods that have worked well for them.
Pippi - I hope you are able to land on something that meets your expectations. Please post with your results - I like to know how people resolve these situations, especially when different from mine. It really helps to broaden my perspective!

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 26, 2010
6:52 AM

Post #7738091

Once roses are well-established they are hard to kill. Yours probably have deep roots and have become adapted to their environment. They are in the same family as blackberries - and you know how hard they are to get rid of once established!

I agree with the others: add lots of organic matter to the area - anything you can get your hands on. It will take time, but your soil will improve.
meisgreen
Phoenix, AZ

April 29, 2010
5:16 PM

Post #7749519

[quote="HoneybeeNC"]Once roses are well-established they are hard to kill...quote]

Unless you live where I do...

HoneybeeNC

HoneybeeNC
Charlotte, NC
(Zone 7b)

April 30, 2010
9:22 AM

Post #7751200

meisgreen - sorry, I never thought about Arizona when I wrote that :( I was born and raised in England, and as you have probably heard - roses grow like weeks there!

You cannot post until you register, login and subscribe.


Other Soil and Composting Threads you might be interested in:

SubjectThread StarterRepliesLast Post
Clay poppysue 16 Oct 21, 2013 3:56 PM
Free compost, myth or truth JaiMarye 14 Oct 27, 2010 6:58 AM
Who Bakes Dirt 76summerwind 29 Apr 4, 2008 6:22 PM
sterilizing options tiG 22 Mar 29, 2008 7:47 PM
Soil & Fertilizer: Compost Tea SoCal 119 Mar 5, 2008 11:18 PM


We recommend Firefox
Overwhelmed? There's a lot to see here. Try starting at our homepage.

[ Home | About | Advertise | Media Kit | Mission | Featured Companies | Submit an Article | Terms of Use | Tour | Rules | Privacy Policy | Contact Us ]

Back to the top

Copyright © 2000-2014 Dave's Garden, an Internet Brands company. All Rights Reserved.
 

Hope for America