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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 10, 2010
7:58 AM

Post #7780023

This is a fickle and decieving month .
Those of us who live in the north are lured by warm temps starting in April.
May is here already and days in the 80's tempt us to put out our plants.
I know better.
My livingroom is overcrowded with coleus plants and cuttings.
Its so crowded it interferes with the remote for TV.
I planted 5 coleus outside just so I can see TV and the front garden.
Everytime I go to a nursery and see people heading toward their cars with bedding plants I want to stop them and tell them of the cold nights with 30 temps,not to mention the freezes in mid to late May.
This is what happens to coleus when night temps are below 50 and it even snows.
This photo is rated "S" for shouldnt and stupid.
It may be harmfull and disturbing to some viewers.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 10, 2010
8:10 AM

Post #7780075

What a disaster! I've had fatalities as well and last night we dragged in all the coleus and tender annuals to save them from the horrible winds and cold temperatures. They cover the living room floor now - what a mess They'll stay inside until we feel the night temperatures are warm.

After all the years I've gardened I think it's a lost cause to try and convince people not to plant their tomatoes or basil just because the store sells them now. It's just too cold and these vegetables want warmth, just like the coleus do.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

May 11, 2010
11:52 AM

Post #7783850

OUCH!
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 11, 2010
12:46 PM

Post #7783971

We are so much alike. I will see someone purchasing a plant that does not grow here. I walk behind them and quietly tell them to ask the manager if the plant they have in their hands grow here. Or the two gallon tomato plant with small tomatoes already on it. I quietly tell them that is a sucker plant and the small tomato plant will grow faster, catch up and pass this big one in no time.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 11, 2010
1:31 PM

Post #7784165

It really doesnt take much time to eduacet ones self where commonsense about plants is concerned.
Good grief if the tulips are blooming why would wnyone expect to have tomatoes now.
My relatives have a vedg stand and grow famous corn in this area.People come to the satnd and ask if the corn is in and my great aunt will point to the firld where my uncle was drilling corn and say"It will be about 4 months."
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 11, 2010
4:31 PM

Post #7784756

Just because you have common sense, do not assume it is out there in abundance. I did mortgages in Las Vegas for over 35 years and common sense is becoming a thing of the past.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 12, 2010
2:40 AM

Post #7785640

right-on
goldfinch4
Ripon, WI
(Zone 4a)

May 12, 2010
8:05 AM

Post #7786328

JoAnn, sorry you lost those coleus...bummer after nursing them along all winter. Our weather is so wacked out this year. In March we had days in the 80's, now in May we've had several frosts and snow. I generally plant my annuals outside in mid-May but not this year. I'm getting so anxious for warm weather. I'm sick and tired of watering coleus in the house! I really didn't start with too many cuttings, but my problem is I kept taking more cuttings and they got out of control! It really is a lot of work keeping them going.
CrabgrassCentrl
New Milford, CT

May 13, 2010
4:46 PM

Post #7790855

I'm with ya, goldfinch. Dang it, if I wanted to freeze my tuckus off in May, I'd move to Alaska.

My coleus are driving me nuts having to keep babying them ... but at least I took the advice from people in this forum, didn't leave them out and they're alive, which is more than I can say for my cannas and ageratum after this past week's freaky cold weather.
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

May 13, 2010
8:18 PM

Post #7791482

Hi everyone, just popping in to ask if anyone noticed this new post on PlantFiles--goodness, is it really a coleus?? Anyone else ever hear of it? Wild!

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/192207/
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 13, 2010
8:21 PM

Post #7791490

Does not look like a coleus to me but I am not man expert. But I do like it. Would love more info. Go for it Pirl and ge1836.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
1:43 AM

Post #7791647

Hey I dont know krap about coleus.I just have a big mouth and express an opinion now and then about what I do know, a bit like 'B Arthur'.
Pirl is the expert.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
2:49 AM

Post #7791672

it's a Plectranthus... do a google search for Madagascar Fern-leaved Coleus ... nothing comes up.. that's why you can't always trust the plant files... only as good as it's users.. maybe that is the local name for the plant... not a coleus though

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
2:55 AM

Post #7791675

i agree Allison.
PF is still better than nothing .PlantID would heve been another choice.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
3:02 AM

Post #7791680

oh don't get me wrong.. I use PF all the time... and sometimes forget it might not always be correct

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
3:07 AM

Post #7791682

here it is

http://www.smgrowers.com/products/plants/plantdisplay.asp?plant_id=2264

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
3:13 AM

Post #7791686

looks like it might not be a Plectranthus either

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
3:19 AM

Post #7791688

I am thinking the only thing correct is the syn. and family.. which is related to coleus... like mint & agastache are related ... still a neat looking plant though

http://www.calhortsociety.org/flower-show/landscape-show-2003/source/dscn2332.htm

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
3:34 AM

Post #7791696

Four feet of it might be too much for my gardens.
goldfinch4
Ripon, WI
(Zone 4a)

May 14, 2010
5:16 AM

Post #7791834

It is pretty cool looking!
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 14, 2010
5:17 AM

Post #7791838

I have many Plectranthus but not that one and, as ge said, four feet would be a bit intense in the garden. In winds it would/could snap branches as well. They do have a pleasant scent (light mint) and are exceptionally easy to root and grow.
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
7:35 PM

Post #7793750

Yep, a four foot tall, 3-4 foot wide coleus is a mighty big one, lol. That might even intimidate the deer!

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 14, 2010
7:36 PM

Post #7793753

oh wouldn't that be nice!
KyWoods
Melbourne, KY
(Zone 6a)

May 14, 2010
7:39 PM

Post #7793761

Yep, not to mention the bunnies! lol

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2010
1:21 AM

Post #7796624

I am attempting to put the overgrown parent coleus out in the garden.
Long range forecast says 50's nights for the next 10 days which should put us beyond the frost dates for Z6.I have half a million backups in the livingroom trays so it wont be any loss if some dont like the change.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 16, 2010
2:36 AM

Post #7796650

we are mid 40's until wed then over 50... good luck!!!... keep us posted!!!
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2010
4:52 AM

Post #7796761

I planted most of mine out yesterday. We SHOULD be safe now. Both the 10 day forecast on weather.com and the 15 day one on accuweather have the night temps staying above 50. The problem with waiting too long to plant out here is that the awful heat and humidity of summer can happen fast. In that, it's hard to get any plant transplanted successfully. Seedlings and small cuttings don't like sudden transplant/change at burning 90 temps.

Karen

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2010
5:51 AM

Post #7796868

What a pain.We get a long heat spell in July.
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

May 16, 2010
6:13 AM

Post #7796905

That doesn't always happen here, but most often it seems to. Last year was an exception, we got so much rain and cold weather in early summer, as did much of the country. We didn't get hot, sunny weather until July last year.

I usually take a week of vacation from work in May to finish my planting, as well as moving or dividing existing plants. Usually I have hundreds of wintersown seedlings to get planted. I start in March or April with perennials and work on to annuals in May. Generally anything that isn't done by about May 15 or 20 doesn't work out too well because the weather is just too hot. Everything seems to tolerate planting, moving, or dividing pretty well unless I attempt it in the real hot weather.

I have to say, too, that my wintersown seedlings tolerate cold much better than indoor seedlings or nursery-bought plants. I feel safer starting with wintersown ones. Unfortunately I didn't have many of those this year.

Karen
Cumulus79
Londerzeel
Belgium

May 16, 2010
1:08 PM

Post #7797981

Just removed all protection from frost sensitive plants this weekend. Father couldn't stand all those bags and covers in the garden anymore, so pray for me that it won't start freezing again. Coleus are still in the greenhouse so at least those will be saved if the prayers are neglected ;)
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 16, 2010
4:08 PM

Post #7798536

Well we have gone from 70s to 90 in one week. I am going to plant my Coleus Tuesday. They have been outside in my holding garden for the last week and are much happier than they were in the house or greenhouse. Good luck everyone.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 17, 2010
1:36 AM

Post #7799669

me too
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 17, 2010
4:28 AM

Post #7799806

Mine will also get planted later this week. I have no idea at all where they'll go but they simply have to get into the soil.
CrabgrassCentrl
New Milford, CT

May 17, 2010
9:18 AM

Post #7800573

Looks like we'll have high 40s here in CT tonight, Tuesday and Wednesday, jumping to mid-50s consistently after that. But I won't have time to get anything out until the weekend ... so I guess I have one more week of babying them indoors.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
1:45 AM

Post #7803101

With the warm days and nights I have moved my cuttings to pots on the deck where they will thrive all summer.
The livingroom is mine again.
I began to resent the coleus and regret my idea to do sooooooo many cuttings.
I have a better view of my Livingroom garden with the blooming TreePeony beyond.
The cats are thrilled.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
2:00 AM

Post #7803111

I will pix planters pronto
soon as the sun comes up.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
2:28 AM

Post #7803128

wow potted up already???... can't wait to see the pics

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
2:37 AM

Post #7803139

The plants are a bit pathetic due to winter color.
I will post pix but done expect any WOW factor as there has been some additional pinching. I had no idea how spindly some had become.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
2:48 AM

Post #7803143

I was just eying some of mine yesterday ... some are very leggy.. and some of the RD ones are trying to flower already... ugh

the rest I will pinch when I get them planted.. hate to waste a good cutting.. I will stick them in somewhere out there.. but no more in flats for me.. I am done with this as well

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
3:09 AM

Post #7803158

I took 30 cuttings for parent plants last September. 10 survived. I must have had 200 cuttings in seedstarter cells.Not a good idea. I think the small cells are what made the plants go leggy
If I do this again it will be just a few,less than a dozen,or buy from RD but not as many and make my planters mostly annuals I buy locally.
I do love the RD trailers tho,nothing cascades like them.
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
3:16 AM

Post #7803172

Me, too. I planted most into a garden bed on Saturday, others into big planters. Weather has been cool and rainy since Sunday. They have to hang on for another couple of days of this weather, then the warmth returns.

I only have a few left in pots, cups, and cells. I hope to get most, if not all of them potted up to bigger containers today. It's supposed to be another cool, rainy day, so I'll spend it in my dungeon (aka basement) potting.

Karen

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
3:16 AM

Post #7803173

you got that right

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
4:00 AM

Post #7803230

My planter combos this year.
RD order has to be added next week.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/PlantersMay18

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
4:10 AM

Post #7803248

do you keep the clem in the container year round?... looks like you made some great combos again!!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
4:50 AM

Post #7803307

The clem is short less than 4 feet and is designed for container growing.Donahues carries it.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
5:03 AM

Post #7803329

very nice

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
5:52 AM

Post #7803477

I am dreaming of a great combo.I'll let you know by July.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
6:05 AM

Post #7803538

LOL

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
8:35 AM

Post #7804078

Just planted Moonlight nastuerteums in both BES planters,just incase Thunbergias dont show up.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
9:33 AM

Post #7804240

how long do the nasties take to flower?

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 18, 2010
9:40 AM

Post #7804260

I cant remember but I think mid July.I might have a picture with a date on it.
I have one with blooms July 9th.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 18, 2010
10:01 AM

Post #7804324

thanks.. I WS'ed some along with the cosmos

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
1:22 AM

Post #7806173

I just planted Moonlight (vineing)
TipTop Magogany
TipTop Apricot
Night and Day.
All nastuers,tucked in with Coleus.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 19, 2010
2:42 AM

Post #7806189

I did tip top mahogany... and a noid that I received in a swap

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
2:53 AM

Post #7806199

I think I am going to like the new TipTop nastuers

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 19, 2010
3:03 AM

Post #7806202

I have never grown any before.. all new to me

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
3:07 AM

Post #7806204

I have grown the tall vineing ones in the garden,creeps all over the place.
I have also grown the Princess of India.Bluegreen leaves and intense red flowers.
These are from 2008 tall vineing

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
3:09 AM

Post #7806206

Princess of India. Nastuers are so easy. I just stick the seeds(clumps of3 seeds) in the ground and 2 weeks there they are.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 19, 2010
3:20 AM

Post #7806210

very nice!!!
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
3:59 AM

Post #7806241

Trailing nasties can be beautiful once they take off. Last year they never had a chance against the aphids. They looked awful most of the summer.

I didn't start any this year. Now I kind of wish I had. I have only one volunteer out there now.

Karen

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 19, 2010
4:18 AM

Post #7806264

Bravo those are lovely.This is the first year for the above varieties. We will see. I planted some Moonlights in a new garden that has the worst soil ever.Here's hopeing.
DaleTheGardener
Tampa, FL
(Zone 10a)

May 20, 2010
8:13 PM

Post #7812362

New to me Marble Rose...or was it Rose Marble?>

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 21, 2010
2:01 AM

Post #7812705

Well I am loosing some of my wintered coleus.
Alligator\Sedona (a few are bleaching out and look sick)
Jungle Love cant take being outside.
Tr Psycoleus looks awful
The stridant survivors that wont quit are:
Watermelon
Trailing QueenTrail.Swiss Sunshine
Electric Lime
Lancelot Velvet Mocha
Fiesta
Dexter,as spindly as it is.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 21, 2010
4:30 AM

Post #7812786

sorry to hear it JoAnn... always better to harden them off before putting them out full time

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 21, 2010
7:19 AM

Post #7813253

The larger plants are doing OK and just to be on the safe side I have a RD comming. I can always scoot out here for coleus. Hardening off? I should have watched more carefully when you were talking about it.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 21, 2010
10:03 AM

Post #7813833

Hardening off is the slow process of very gently introducing them to the weather in our gardens. First, about two hours of shade, then back in the garage or in total safe shade. Next day maybe an hour more and dappled shade (no direct sun at all), back in shade for the night. It goes on until they're acclimated to dappled shade or only morning sun, then any that are going into a sunny spot go step by step, very slowly, to avoid sunburn.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 21, 2010
10:56 AM

Post #7813964

I definatly will NOT be doing thit next year. I have 8 trays and 4 big tubs. Each one is a trip to the deck and down steps. No thanks. Those that make it will make it. Those that dont wont. I have tons of annual seeds I can plant and many of the tubs are filled with Caladiums and Dahlias. Coleus wont be missed. I have a small order from RD that should fill out any bare spots. Also gardens are full of parent plants that are surviving. I will take cuttings from them all summer to fill in where they are needed.
I simply couldnt be a greenhouse grower with all the footwork necessary.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 21, 2010
11:21 AM

Post #7814025

It could be made easier by just putting a large box over them to protect them from sun.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

May 21, 2010
1:44 PM

Post #7814386

Brilliant idea pirl about using a box. Thanks.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 21, 2010
1:47 PM

Post #7814393

You'd want some air circulation so make some holes in the box or they'll get too hot. I'd remove it late in the afternoon depending on the strength of the sun.

onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 21, 2010
1:49 PM

Post #7814397

you are good Missy!!!!!
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

May 21, 2010
1:53 PM

Post #7814411

LOL it never gets 'too hot' here ^_^ I more worried about it being too cold. Well it does too hot but not til July.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

May 21, 2010
1:56 PM

Post #7814416

Milk crates with a towel or piece of cardboard on top (with a rock to keep it in place) would also work. Feel free to be creative.

Hot here in July, too, D'nut. Today was wonderful in the shade as I cut back coleus...again!
kqcrna
Cincinnati, OH
(Zone 6a)

May 22, 2010
8:49 AM

Post #7816612

You can also use a laundry basket to shade them. Usually I'll just use lawn furniture. Easy and works well.

Karen
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 22, 2010
6:32 PM

Post #7818129

Well guys, this is cray Las Vegas. Today 87, tomorrow high 63. I have all my coleus in holding garden where they have doubled and tripled in size. Now them big chill is moving in. I am going to put a large box over them and then a thick blanket. Actually I am just getting up to do it because I just saw the evening weather. Be back in a while.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 22, 2010
7:35 PM

Post #7818305

It is a good think i recycle. And I bought a coolin unit for them back patio from Front gate so had a very long box and covered the majority of the coleus. I had some new gifts, rooted coleus, just planted into 6" pots so they are back in the garage. 25% below normal temperature. My Orange and Lime trees are both loaded with new fruit. So are my tomatoes. I have no idea what this will do because it is a record low high since starting to record temperatures. Snow 4 miles away in the mountains behind us. 50mph winds last night but the Coleus were protected by trees and fence. This weather has me talking to myself.

But it could be worse. I could live in Louisiana and then I would be shooting Mother Nature on a daily basis or BP.

DH finally made the turn today or yesterday. It may have been yesterday but I did not notice. I was sitting and watching him at lunch with all the kids and their families in the back landscape and he seemed to move more. OMG, he is acting normal. He looks much better, is not huffing and puffing while walking and the snoring is almost gone. This cannot all be from dehydration. But I will take it. OK, I need to go read and stop talking.
lincolnitess
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2010
10:06 AM

Post #7826045

My coleus seem happy outside. I'm trying something different this year and planted most of my new ones in gallon pots, then put 5 of the gallon pots in each large planter. Figure I can move them around easily this way and reduce them down to 3 a pot if needed when they get bigger. Here's the first one.

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lincolnitess
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2010
10:07 AM

Post #7826052

Here's a couple more.

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lincolnitess
Lincoln, NE
(Zone 5b)

May 25, 2010
10:09 AM

Post #7826066

And my first year of planting a Nancy Jane stacker planter. May change tthe coleus in the one layer. Just stuck in what I had at the time. I also have a large square raised bed that will have lots of coleus this summer.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

May 25, 2010
8:03 PM

Post #7828021

nice selection!

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 26, 2010
2:01 AM

Post #7828495

Great idea
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

May 30, 2010
8:31 PM

Post #7844324

OK, we have gone fro a high of 67 last week to 95 today. So I am going to plant in pots. I will show you when I get finished which will be at the end of the week. What a year. Love you all. Stick around.

Photo is Baby Luke with his Easter Basket. He is heading up the road June 15th to his new home with Mommy, Daddy and older sisters in Spokane. But Grandma is OK. Just need to find a reasonable flight between here and there.

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Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 4, 2010
11:53 AM

Post #7858705

Dale, check "Coleus ID?" by daisy_lee. One on down that page posted by goodoldbake is called Anna and looks just like what you called Marble Rose.

Neat coleus.
TARogers5
Kingston, OK
(Zone 7a)

June 6, 2010
9:46 AM

Post #7863774

Hello everyone. couple of them that I overwintered.

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onewish1

onewish1
Denville, NJ
(Zone 6b)

June 20, 2010
1:14 AM

Post #7904424

Atlock has an open house today for anyone near NJ

http://www.atlockfarm.com/index.html
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

June 26, 2010
2:19 PM

Post #7922871

Walked in the Lowes yesterday and they had 1 gallon coleus for $3. Then they had some awesome companion plants. But they did not know that. I am going to plant and later on i will take photos. Have a great day.

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