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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 10, 2010
7:17 PM

Post #7877314

My seedlings are about 5 months old now and most look great but some are acting a bit odd. This is the first time I've grown these so I don't know what to expect. The first one here looked wonderful until a few weeks ago the tips of the leaves started yellowing.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 10, 2010
7:18 PM

Post #7877317

This second one keeps pushing out what appear to be variegated leaves, but these just keep dying. It doesn't seem to want to give up though.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 10, 2010
7:19 PM

Post #7877321

This last one has not grown a new leaf in a few weeks. I am hopefully thinking that it may be getting ready to flower. If anyone could let me know what is going on with these seedlings I would be very happy.

Jen

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 10, 2010
7:19 PM

Post #7877323

Here is a side view of that last one.

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Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 12, 2010
4:52 AM

Post #7881078

How often are you watering them, feeding them? Is their soil that perlite all the way to the bottom of the pot?

Where did you get the seeds, what are they?

If you're "Letting them get dry" in between watering, and fertilizing only occasionally, you're growing them "hard". I'd give each plant it's own pot, and start watering them every morning, with extremely weak fertilizer, like 1/20 of the recommendation on the box. A fertilizer with micronutrients, and the first number low, low nitrogen.

The last plant, what are those white specks, could they be mealy bugs? A quick spray with Neem oil, then a rinse a few minutes later might be called for.

Post more pictures when there are any changes, OK?

Melissa
jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 12, 2010
8:44 AM

Post #7881593

I do let the soil dry between watering. I wanted to be careful not to overwater and cause rot.

There is not that much perlite throughout, that stuff just tends to float to the top. The mix I'm using is one part each of peat moss, perlite, and vermiculite. If there is a better mix, I can certainly use it.

I got the seeds from ebay and they are adenium obesum seeds.

I did plan on giving them their own pots so I will do that as well.

That last picture looks that way because of how the flash shone on the plant. Don't worry, no bugs here! :)

I haven't been able to find much information on growing these from seed and specifics like growing medium, lighting, etc. Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places.

Thank you for your reply! I will keep you updated.
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

June 12, 2010
9:40 AM

Post #7881738

As babies, their tiny feeder roots die when they get very dry. As long as they have a loose, fluffy medium, which sounds like yours do, they can actually have a lot of water. As long as there are leaves, and new leaves growing to use water. Later fall and winter is rot season. Slowed growth, slowed metabolism, means less water.

They withstand 100 degree heat easily, they are desert plants, and they like full sun, also. If you decide to put them in sun, do it gradually, as they will get sunburned, not good. One hour, two hours the next day,then three hours, and etc. They will need lots of water in 100 degrees and full sun.
PurePlants
Deltona, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 12, 2010
10:03 AM

Post #7881778

jfr, my varigated seedling has been doing the same thing. =(
jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

June 12, 2010
10:55 AM

Post #7881898

I'm sorry to hear that PurePlants. I was really excited that I would have a variegated one. I don't know why it's being so fussy. I would guess that since there is not much green on the leaves, it isn't able to photosynthesize enough to support itself.
PurePlants
Deltona, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 12, 2010
2:33 PM

Post #7882406

Yeah, the first set of leaves are green but everything after that has been albino like...

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2010
1:06 PM

Post #8013673

Based on Melissa's advice, I gave each of the plants their own pot, started watering more regularly so the soil doesn't dry out between waterings, about every 4 days or so, and also started feeding weakly with every watering. I have to say that they are looking much better now. What does everyone else think? Do they look healthy? They are all in 4" pots and are about 7 months old now. Thank you for your advice Melissa!

This is the first plant I posted with the yellowing leaves. It seems elongated to me.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2010
1:07 PM

Post #8013674

This is the third one I posted that had stopped growing altogether. (The second one with the variegated leaves didn't make it.) It branched out like crazy.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2010
1:08 PM

Post #8013676

These leaves are different than the others.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2010
1:09 PM

Post #8013678

Yet another.

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jfr1012
Pittsburgh, PA
(Zone 6a)

August 2, 2010
1:09 PM

Post #8013681

And the last one. Thank you for looking!

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Malestrom
Plumiedelphia, PA
(Zone 7a)

August 8, 2010
11:03 PM

Post #8028122

Seeds rarely come true to the mother
Many variations from the same pod is common
They are basically obesum with traits of another genetic influence.
Pinch the tall one and it will branch out and probably bloom too.
good luck!
Molamola
Christiansted, VI
(Zone 11)

August 26, 2010
1:48 PM

Post #8063642

I had a seedling that had new white leaves, and it died too. Owell!

Very happy your babies are doing better, Jen! Up until two years, Adeniums like to grow a lot!

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