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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 17, 2010
6:38 AM

Post #7896292

Thought I would start a new thread
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/563917/#new

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2010
6:53 AM

Post #7896325

Here's the photo we all seem to love so much, thanks to kattamos, which was the subject of "Too many plants". This thread is an extension of the one by kattamos.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 17, 2010
6:56 AM

Post #7896336

Of course. I am new at starting new carryovers. Sorry for the mistake.

Thanks for the image Pirl.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 17, 2010
7:21 AM

Post #7896406

You can never have too many, can you?

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 17, 2010
7:41 AM

Post #7896470

I just love those begonias.Its not possible here.Thanks for sharing
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2010
7:57 AM

Post #7896530

hcm - beautiful.

ge - not here either.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 17, 2010
8:00 AM

Post #7896540

Why is it not possible?

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 17, 2010
8:14 AM

Post #7896585

Not humid enough and definatly not a perennial except as a house plant.I vant even keep them then.Dry in the winter.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 17, 2010
9:02 AM

Post #7896743

Hmm, I thought the original post showed lots of begonias, coleus, colocasia, etc. which aren't perennials in most areas of the states. Begonias have to be moved indoors each fall and back out each spring. You can't be that arid to not grow begonias (even a couple).

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

June 17, 2010
10:40 AM

Post #7896953

Ge and I are proof! I wish it were otherwise but I've tried more than once and haven't had success. With so many beautiful plants on the market I won't spend more money on plants that don't like the conditions here.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 17, 2010
11:06 AM

Post #7897002

Don't blame you there. Begonias can be frustrating when you first start in them but after you get the hang of what they want, they become like most other plants - addictive and fairly easy.

Millie & Ed Thompson who wrote the bible on begonias lived in NYC. Not sure if they gardened outdoors though. Below is a tribute to Millie's contributions.

http://www.begonias.org/milliethompson.htm

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2010
1:49 AM

Post #7898578

I had an Escargo that lasted 1 year.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 18, 2010
4:19 AM

Post #7898707

Escargot is the very worst begonia a novice could ever buy. The absolute worst. Why it is marketed so heavily is beyond me. The vendor/grower should have all kinds of warnings and advice posted in large letters on this begonia.

Try a rhizomatous begonia next time (non-rex) and you should have better luck. There are many rexes that are a lot easier than Escargot too.

Here is one that is fairly easy - 'Art Hodes' and it gets big if you let it.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2010
4:24 AM

Post #7898718

Just fantastic
This is our 1 and only begonia.It blooms like mad in the winter.Just wonderful to see when the ground is covered with snow.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 18, 2010
5:51 AM

Post #7898861

Nice looking beefsteak (B. 'Erythrophylla')

Here is one of mine.

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 18, 2010
5:54 AM

Post #7898862

very nice.I like the ruffled edges
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 18, 2010
6:47 AM

Post #7898979

This one looks like a beefsteak - on steroids! This is B. 'Freddie' which gets very large. Leaves are over 12 inches across and is about 2.5 feet tall.

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NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 19, 2010
4:41 PM

Post #7903616

Well, I sure can't grow them here, but I love seeing all yours, hcmcdole! Is your yard really shady with big trees? It looks like it from your pictures of the begonias.
GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

June 19, 2010
5:57 PM

Post #7903742

Well.. grown on my roof .. but tucked way in an often shaded planter.. I have a few...yes they and the tropicalss have to winter inside.. or in the cool room...

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sylguy
Austin, TX

June 19, 2010
7:04 PM

Post #7903900

Gordon I've recently become interested in Begonias. Your's are gorgeous! Another Austin DG'r introduced via a fun roadtrip to a nursery, the best, in Seguin. We literally came back with a truck load between us. (jus kiddin' hubby's) I got 4 yummy varieties I'll snap and post.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 21, 2010
3:03 AM

Post #7906791

Best of my tubs June 21 Not a great year for coleus here.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/BestOfTubsJune21
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 21, 2010
4:16 AM

Post #7906825

Hey Nancy,

Yes I do have some tall trees but also some very sunny sites too. Two of my begonias had some burning on their leaves due to excessive heat last week (mid 90's with heat index mid 100's). I moved one to a bit more shade and the other one just gave it a lot of water. Most of my canes receive direct noon day to mid afternoon sun for at least one hour or more. If I want blooms then they need some sun. If I want large showy leaves then deeper shade. Here is Silvermist one year in deep shade - no blooms but the leaves were quite showy.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 21, 2010
4:18 AM

Post #7906826

SIlvermist with hours of sun produces blooms but the leaves have a different look.

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NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 21, 2010
9:35 AM

Post #7907508

Wow, that is amazing! What a difference with sun. I bet it is a trick sometimes to get just the right amount of sun for what you are trying to do! You are lucky to have such a wonderful environment for begonias. But I'm lucky to have a wonderful environment for desert plants like Echinopsis!

NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

June 21, 2010
9:38 AM

Post #7907517

I wanted to add a picture of an Echinopsis!

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

June 21, 2010
10:57 AM

Post #7907746

Beautiful blooming cacti. Hard to beat!

Here is one I had years ago and lost it.

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sylguy
Austin, TX

June 21, 2010
3:59 PM

Post #7908583

Nancy and hcmc, all I can say is oooh, aaaaah. Hope I get blooms soon.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 4, 2010
10:38 AM

Post #7942668

Oh. Oh. Oh my! I haven't seen a pic on this thread where there are too many plants. Is it really possible to have too many? There is always a way to squeeze in one more isn't there?
I am starting to move some of my begonias into more light per hc's advice. Eldora is getting quite a bit of afternoon sun and she is looking good so far. Sophie Cecile is next.
hc, will Freddie overwinter well? Even if it lost its leaves? I think I'm going to have to cram my begonias closer together this winter. I am getting so many new ones.
GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

July 4, 2010
10:48 AM

Post #7942692

well along with the begonias .. there's a pile of others making up too many.. all in containers on the roof... OH OH.. is that another flat ready to be planted...

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GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

July 4, 2010
10:52 AM

Post #7942695

this is my favorite grouping today... I don't believe there room for another there... but still not too many...

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 4, 2010
11:24 AM

Post #7942813

What a treat for the eyes!
GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

July 4, 2010
12:59 PM

Post #7942927

in the evening it's a paradise of aroma as the angle trumpets and jasmine play on other senses as well

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2010
6:29 PM

Post #7946026

Looking good on the brugs there.

Fireball and Plum Crazy hibiscus pushed together for comparison.

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GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

July 5, 2010
8:27 PM

Post #7946272

THANKS ALL...Yes HC.. they do look great.. see this photo also...there are dozens of them...
funny.. that's one of the benefits of container growing.. you can make a group of flowering plants together in a minute.. for their photo.. give them the best light.. and background.. then back to wher they grow best

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 6, 2010
3:13 AM

Post #7946603

The scene is lovely - especially the flag!
sylguy
Austin, TX

July 6, 2010
7:00 PM

Post #7948567

hcmc, the red is gorgeousbut I especially love the tone down in the throat of Plum crazy.

gordon, move my pots for pix...you and whose army, I'm little, they're big mostly.
I like the flag too.

coming back from houston this am I saw a ranch gate with a huge star over their gate and really wide red,white, and blue bunting on the 2 sides of the fence for about 2 car lengths each side, and 2 containers of red geraniums on the stone pillars.
blupit007
Clinton, CT
(Zone 6b)

July 6, 2010
9:27 PM

Post #7948865

I just got my first begonia, 'New York Swirl' It is in a light room with no direct sunlight getting to it. I have only had it for 2 weeks and is seems to be growing already. I keep spinning the pot as it was only in a 2 1/2" pot when I bought it, so it was lopsided when I re-potted it. Is this a hard begonia for my first?? Now i'm worried...

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 7, 2010
1:54 AM

Post #7949037

nice garden ,Hawk.The space looks great.
sylguy
Austin, TX

July 7, 2010
1:36 PM

Post #7950382

Hi ge, gordon, & pirl, I hear NY got a record heat wave, up in triple digits.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

July 7, 2010
1:46 PM

Post #7950399

Its nearly 5 o'clock and 95 * the poor garden.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 7, 2010
1:47 PM

Post #7950400

Sure, sure. Leave it to Texas!
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 7, 2010
2:09 PM

Post #7950433

Now you can grow begonias with that kind of weather. No excuses!

blupit - like your rex begonia.

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NancySLAZ

NancySLAZ
Sun Lakes, AZ
(Zone 9a)

July 8, 2010
3:46 PM

Post #7953290

hc: What a gorgeous green begonia! I love it and I'm so, so jealous!
phoebesviolets
Land of OZ, CT
(Zone 6a)

July 24, 2010
7:59 AM

Post #7992976

As far as I'm concerned, indoors or out, there is no such thing as "too many plants"--perhaps on Mars...
Nice thread! And Ge, Pirl--I still struggle with begonias, with varying levels of success, as well.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
9:16 AM

Post #7993092

Well, I'm impressed, phoebe! I have all of six AV's and three of them are new. I managed to kill six by trying to do the right thing and repotting them. I won't make that mistake again!

hcm infected me with the begonia bug, again! So I bought a few and so far, so good. I loved the ultra fine white edge on this one:

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
9:17 AM

Post #7993095

The color of this one won me over!

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phoebesviolets
Land of OZ, CT
(Zone 6a)

July 24, 2010
9:36 AM

Post #7993127

Oh! That one is so pretty! First time I've seen it. I was doing fine with the mini versions here til a couple of years ago--now have only one. I used to grow large ones easily in my shade container garden years ago. I just love hcm's begonias! And I drool over them every time I go to Logee's-LOL. Maybe we can teach each other...and BTW, it wasn't re-potting that killed your AV's. Give them another try--I'm always around^_^
EDIT-That pink is gorgeous!

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
9:45 AM

Post #7993155

pirl, beautiful begonias. Names please? Aren't you glad we have hc on this forum? I am.
I am nuts over begonias. Hands down my favorite tropical. I'm addicted.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
10:04 AM

Post #7993205

Names? You want me to face 90 degrees to get you names??? LOL

I'll see what I have on my photo file. Sorry, no names of the begonias here.

This one is Pink Wave and it must be five years old now. It comes inside for the winter and I just let it go dormant. I plant it with new Florida Sweetheart caladiums each spring and it hasn't wilted yet despite the heat we've had and the many times I've forgotten to water it (like today).

I'll look for names on the others tonight but I don't think the peachy one had a name tag when I bought it.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2010
10:18 AM

Post #7993239

My job is complete. I love it when I get other people infected with begonia fever.



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GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2010
10:37 AM

Post #7993271

this red bloomer was sold in big hanging baskets,,, all ablaze.. I finally found a small one to use in a planter

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2010
11:42 AM

Post #7993403

Cool Verbena. I like the Bonfire begonia too.

Apparently Bonfire will fill a big container quickly. I put a six inch pot of it into this 18 inch pot just a couple of months ago. The spread must be over 30 inches now.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
12:59 PM

Post #7993542

Does that type of begonia come in other colors?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2010
2:23 PM

Post #7993661

Yes there are more out there and more coming down the pipe. Bellfire, Chocolate Orange, Chocolate Pink, etc.

http://www.tesselaar.com/plants/bonfirebegonia/

http://tesselaaruk.blogspot.com/2009/09/begonia-bonfire-choc-orange-plant.html

http://newsroom.tesselaar.com/photos/begonia-bonfire-chocolate-pink

When are they going to get a blue bloom?

Here is a large black fuzzy leaf begonia - 'Dorothy Behrends' It is stunning!

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
3:01 PM

Post #7993752

Thanks for the links. Love that Chocolate Pink. Are they tuberous or not?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 24, 2010
3:05 PM

Post #7993763

Yes they are tuberous. I kept mine in their pots last winter in the basement and watered very sparingly so the tuber wouldn't shrivel too much. It is probably easier to buy a new one (or more) each year if you don't want to bother with the tubers.

How about a big rhizomatous begonia instead.

B. 'Holley Moon'

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
3:13 PM

Post #7993779

I find the tuberous ones the easiest to grow! We've had this one for four years now.

Thank you for your help.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
8:30 PM

Post #7994574

Oh, oh, oh, you people are killing me! How will I deal with all the madness?

hc, are those your plants? Name the colocasia(?) please?
I can't wait to get my hands on those new boliviensis varieties.
pirl, I can't grow Tuberous Begonias to save my life. How do you do it? Mine will come up and do OK for a while and then nada. Mine usually rot. Am I overwatering? And the ones that don't rot and make it to the fall won't overwinter for me. I grow all mine in pots.
I decided this year I am going to give up on them. Unless someone can tell me how to grow them.
Do you grow the tuberous, hc?

Well, at least one tuberous I am successful with is boliviensis. I've had it for a few years now. Some will go dormant in the winter and some keep on growing right on till spring. I've even had them sprout from seed.

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phoebesviolets
Land of OZ, CT
(Zone 6a)

July 24, 2010
9:32 PM

Post #7994713

Yikes!!! Holy boliviensis! ^_^
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 25, 2010
5:23 AM

Post #7994983

Ditto to phoebe's comment!!!

Rot indicates over-watering. Hold back on the water!

Mine grow in hanging baskets (and let's hope hc doesn't read this but...) I leave the begonia in the pot all winter, very seldom give it any water (maybe 1/2 cup once a month) and have never changed the soil. I guess I should change the soil but it's one of those things I don't get around to doing.

Where are you holding the pots over winter? If they fall over and die an unhappy death after they've been growing I'd bet it's the over-watering problem.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2010
8:54 AM

Post #7995354

Great looking Bonfire or boliviensis Kill. I should either put my pot on a pedestal or start staking since it is hitting the ground now. All the plants I've been showing are mine. Are you talking about the Alocasia 'Frydek'? It is one of the best you can grow - very easy and multiplies rapidly. I have several other Alocasia/Colocasia too.

The problem with tuberous in the south is rot and heat. They grow great for a couple of months then disappear. I've had some over the years but they never last more than a couple of years. The best thing here is to use them as short term annuals in spring and fall, maybe winter indoors. I basically quit buying them. Most folks in FL say they cannot grow them there and I can see why.

You should see the monster tuberous they grow in CA. The blooms are 9 inches or more across!

I've had some begonias in the same soil for years too but I've tried to repot, replenish the pots that show poor growth starting last year. It makes a world of difference.

It's a sauna out there this morning and I was soaked after half an hour just walking around taking pictures and this was 10:30. The dogs were ready to come in after five minutes. The plants love it though - tropical heat.


Here is another Alocasia 'Frydek' and some canes in the same hanging basket from this morning shoot.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
11:03 AM

Post #7995606

hc, your plants are tremendous. Thanks. Ya know I think I read somewhere once that tuberous don't like heat. That's probably the biggest reason I've been unsuccessful and the watering thing I could never figure out. Too much or too little.
The boliv. in the photo is the one that grew all through last winter. I cut it back severely before I brought it in and it just kept growing. It hasn't been repotted since last year but I give it weak fertilizer about once a day.
Thanks for the Frydek ID and info. It goes on the 'to buy' list for next year. :-)
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2010
11:23 AM

Post #7995648

Try a coir lined basket for tuberous next time. You can't overwater (or it's hard to overwater) with these baskets. I kept a couple of tuberous going for 2 years in one and hung it off my front porch so it got some indirect hot afternoon sun. I watered it once a day and then stored in the cool, dim garage for winter.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
11:41 AM

Post #7995680

hc, I did that just this year. No such luck. They died after a short time while I have 2 in small plastic pots that at least are still growing. I know it's not the coir basket's fault but mine somehow. I am trying growing mine in more shade this year. Bad idea?

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2010
12:18 PM

Post #7995734

I wouldn't worry about them. You can always try them again and again until you've had your fill of them, then you can try some simple begonias like B. 'Big' var. red.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
2:27 PM

Post #7995996

I have this one which looks pretty similar. I've been keeping it for 4 or 5 years now. It's Red Dragon isn't it?

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
2:28 PM

Post #7995999

Same variety, different pot.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2010
4:53 PM

Post #7996343

Dragon Wings are such a great full sun begonia.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
5:08 PM

Post #7996384

I have been trying to use them as in-the-ground bedding plants. So far not much luck. They stay alive but don't grow much. Must be the soil I'm planting them in?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 25, 2010
7:25 PM

Post #7996728

Just keep them watered and they should do fine.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
9:35 PM

Post #7997082

I do water them regularly and they never dry out. They just sit there and pout.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2010
4:22 AM

Post #7997359

hc - the begonia is wonderful but that iron plant stand is glorious. Where did you buy it? I have a big collection of both cast iron and wrought iron.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
4:47 AM

Post #7997392

Pirl, if I remember right I got that stand at Hobby Lobby. I've gotten a lot of pots (glazed, metal, fiberglass, glass) from them over the years. Wait for their sales since they always have them.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2010
4:53 AM

Post #7997399

Thanks for the information but we don't have a Hobby Lobby here.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
5:57 AM

Post #7997504

Ah, rats! Lowe's and Home Depot sometimes has nice planters.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2010
6:06 AM

Post #7997535

We're still waiting for a Lowe's to come to a town near us. Right now they're an hour away. HD is closer but devoid of anything beautiful. We have bought a lot of cast iron on Cape Cod, at a flea market, and this is my favorite planter from there.

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ardesia
Saint Helena Island, SC
(Zone 9a)

July 26, 2010
7:34 AM

Post #7997724

Simply gorgeous!
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
7:45 AM

Post #7997746

Very Charming.

I quit buying pots about two years ago (at least decorative pots). I still buy plastic pots from Walmart or Home Depot for potting up. My glazed pots aren't displayed any longer - sitting in some cubby hole or in the basement. I have many 18 inch resin pots bought over the years from Sam's Club and are great for displays but too big to bring indoors. I now use those for annuals and some perennials. I have a few trees in bigger pots and had three 22 inch pots with bamboo in them. One died and the other two died back but still have some sprouts. As time goes by I see that trees should be put in the ground for best results and large pots are good for some perennials so they don't have to compete with tree roots for water. Lessons taught by mother nature.

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pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2010
9:05 AM

Post #7997918

Thanks!

I no longer use my big heavy ceramic pots. At some point they just got too heavy, probably the year after I bought them.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
9:11 AM

Post #7997923

hc, that last pic is awesome! What is the dark-leaved variety?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
9:12 AM

Post #7997929

I know what you mean about Big Ceramic Pots. Then add soil and big plants and it is too much. I had a 22 or 24 inch ceramic pot with a white bird of paradise. After moving this plant in and out for a few years and never really looking all that good, I let it out over winter a few years ago. Good riddance. Why they sell these at Home Depot as indoor plants is beyond me.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
9:19 AM

Post #7997941

Hey Kill, that dark leaf cane (or shrub) is Lynda Dawn. Looks great in summer but starting in late August it came down with the worst case of mildew I ever saw. Mallet begonias are notorious for getting mildew when the nights start getting cooler. It must have something to do with their Philippine heritage.

Here is my big Sinbad five years ago. It is another Mallet type but it makes a great summer container plant.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
9:20 AM

Post #7997942

hc, we posted about the same time. You might not have seen my last post.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
9:27 AM

Post #7997953

hc, I know I probably go overboard sometimes but that Sinbad is absolutely spectacular!
Here's mine. Only had it for a few weeks now. I hope I can grow mine that well.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
9:38 AM

Post #7997991

Move it to a bigger pot, give it a good drink to begin with, move it to the edge of a tree's canopy to where it gets some sun (late afternoon or morning) and it should do fine. Just be prepared for mildew when the nights get cool. When it sets in, you might lose it or consider treating it as an annual.

Here is another I had two years later. I didn't prune the bad leaves off like I should've. I can usually find a gallon pot at Pike's for around $5 each year so treating it as an annual is no big loss.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
10:50 AM

Post #7998139

That is still beautiful. I am pretty successful at overwintering most of my begonias. I hope I can overwinter Sinbad. I love it!
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
11:13 AM

Post #7998177

Start spraying for fungus when it starts to cool off. You might do okay.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
11:30 AM

Post #7998199

hc, I always worry about putting a small begonia in too large a pot. Shouldn't they be really well-rooted, short of being rootbound, before they are moved up?
Maybe that's a mistake I'm making with some of mine?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
12:06 PM

Post #7998294

As a general rule you are right. That is a rule of safety. But rules are meant to be broken. If the plant you have has a tendency to grow large in a single growing season why bother going through stages when you can leapfrog 3 or more potting sizes. Sinbad is one that can fill a pot in a season. Of course at the end of the season you may want to lift it out of a big pot, trim it down to size, maybe root prune so it is better managed indoors due to limited space. My Bonfire this year was moved from a six inch pot to an 18 inch pot and the branches are hanging over the sides and touching the ground. In the past I obeyed the rule but never had this size in such a short amount of time. I could go on with other examples - my mother has put some of the begonias I gave her into much bigger pots and I was amazed at how much bigger and healthier they looked than my mother plants that I used to get her started. My best example is my first visit to Miami and PHOE (Palm Hammock Orchid Estates) I bought a few begonias. Two were Caribbean King and C. Queen. I got them in gallon sized pots and put them into 18 inch pots (didn't know about silly potting up rules). In one season they were monsters (pictures to follow). Now the reverse is true too. I left them out to early November and got a hard frost - all the leaves were damaged but the rhizomes looked good. I moved them into the garage with pretty cool air and dim light. The rhizomes lost some size but the next year they did pretty good but not like the first year. I repeated it the second winter and the rhizomes got even smaller. Finally the third year I potted down and kept them in a much warmer basement under lights. One more year to gain some more size and this summer they are about the size (in leaf) to my first year.

Lesson learned - pot up to a big pot if you want a bit plant. Do not use garden fertilizer on young plants. Do not over water young plants. Finally pot down if the plant is decreasing rather than increasing.

Here were my C. King and Queen back in '05 after one full growing season. These are 18 inch pots.

Well I was hoping to find both together but it looks like it will be one at a time.

The King wasn't as big as the Queen but still pretty good sized.

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hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
12:07 PM

Post #7998296

And the Queen.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
12:35 PM

Post #7998368

Beautiful. Thanks for the info. Also, what is that green shrub to the far right in the second photo?
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
12:41 PM

Post #7998380

Some kind of Juniper or Chamaecyparis.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
12:48 PM

Post #7998397

hehe. Not a conifer fanatic, huh? It's pretty. I'd like to know what it is exactly.
hcmcdole
Powder Springs, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 26, 2010
1:00 PM

Post #7998418

Good background plants.
dreamjourney
San Diego, CA

May 19, 2011
9:27 AM

Post #8573726

Like this thread! I enjoy the foliage color, shape and pattern more than flower, it is just more soothing and relaxing.

sunkissed

sunkissed
Winter Springs, FL
(Zone 9b)

May 22, 2011
9:21 AM

Post #8579399

Lol...this thread cracks me up...someone that has never been to my garden was sitting looking around and said, "Wow you really have a lot going on here." I'm not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing...ha ha.
Here is my shot of an old wheelbarrow I fill with every little seedling I find and then some find their own way to it.

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killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

May 22, 2011
10:54 AM

Post #8579550

LOL...that's just what I need. A wheelbarrow. Perfect for putting all the seeming hundreds of plants on my back porch that I can't get around to potting up. I would probably need a about 10 of them.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
2:05 AM

Post #8609806

Great idea. I'm hopeing for more sun today so I can photo containers.
Sun's not up yet.

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
4:46 AM

Post #8609900

Still no sun enough to take good photos. I dont like to pix flowers in full sun but need more light that we have on this cloudy day.
some planters

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
4:47 AM

Post #8609901

2

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
4:48 AM

Post #8609902

from the deck collection

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
4:48 AM

Post #8609903

bunch at the end

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 5, 2011
4:49 AM

Post #8609904

High hopes for this,caladiums arent showing in this cool weather

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 7, 2011
1:24 AM

Post #8614600

These might be the best ever in the front porch

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dreamjourney
San Diego, CA

June 7, 2011
8:24 AM

Post #8615283

Glads are in bloom, I heard they will die off 6 weeks after flowering. Can I please have some suggestions on what to plant for the rest of the summer after I dig out the bulbs?

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sunkissed

sunkissed
Winter Springs, FL
(Zone 9b)

June 9, 2011
1:58 PM

Post #8620580

I was downloading some pictures from my camera to the computer and thought about this thread when I saw this picture...

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 10, 2011
1:42 AM

Post #8621560

waa da ya mean.It looks just right.
Not too many.
killdawabbit
Christiana, TN
(Zone 6b)

June 10, 2011
12:54 PM

Post #8622443

sunkissed, that's a nice collection. I'm sure you could find room for a few more. :-)

ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 11, 2011
3:44 AM

Post #8623448

Front porch containers

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 11, 2011
3:45 AM

Post #8623449

These are sweet with lobelias

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 11, 2011
3:45 AM

Post #8623450

White lobelia

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 11, 2011
3:45 AM

Post #8623451

torenias

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 13, 2011
2:22 AM

Post #8626919

SIL and DD powerwashed the deck and DD re arranged the planters. I like the new look.Photo when the sun comes up.
GordonHawk
Brooklyn, NY
(Zone 7b)

June 13, 2011
4:34 PM

Post #8628296

3 ft of 130 ft of containers... on the roof..
clockwise from 11 o'clock
morning glory...ivy.. patriot hosta.. new guinea impatients..pansey

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ge1836

ge1836
Pittsford, NY
(Zone 6a)

June 14, 2011
1:02 AM

Post #8629098

I always like seeing your rooftop garden.
Here are some of my deck containers
The plants have only been in since late May,maybe 2 weeks.July is the really best time for them
https://picasaweb.google.com/jgentle4/PlantersJune13

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