Hmm, I thought the original post showed lots of begonias, coleus, colocasia, etc. which aren't perennials in most areas of the states. Begonias have to be moved indoors each fall and back out each spring. You can't be that arid to not grow begonias (even a couple).
Ge and I are proof! I wish it were otherwise but I've tried more than once and haven't had success. With so many beautiful plants on the market I won't spend more money on plants that don't like the conditions here.
Escargot is the very worst begonia a novice could ever buy. The absolute worst. Why it is marketed so heavily is beyond me. The vendor/grower should have all kinds of warnings and advice posted in large letters on this begonia.
Try a rhizomatous begonia next time (non-rex) and you should have better luck. There are many rexes that are a lot easier than Escargot too.
Here is one that is fairly easy - 'Art Hodes' and it gets big if you let it.
Gordon I've recently become interested in Begonias. Your's are gorgeous! Another Austin DG'r introduced via a fun roadtrip to a nursery, the best, in Seguin. We literally came back with a truck load between us. (jus kiddin' hubby's) I got 4 yummy varieties I'll snap and post.
Yes I do have some tall trees but also some very sunny sites too. Two of my begonias had some burning on their leaves due to excessive heat last week (mid 90's with heat index mid 100's). I moved one to a bit more shade and the other one just gave it a lot of water. Most of my canes receive direct noon day to mid afternoon sun for at least one hour or more. If I want blooms then they need some sun. If I want large showy leaves then deeper shade. Here is Silvermist one year in deep shade - no blooms but the leaves were quite showy.
Wow, that is amazing! What a difference with sun. I bet it is a trick sometimes to get just the right amount of sun for what you are trying to do! You are lucky to have such a wonderful environment for begonias. But I'm lucky to have a wonderful environment for desert plants like Echinopsis!
Oh. Oh. Oh my! I haven't seen a pic on this thread where there are too many plants. Is it really possible to have too many? There is always a way to squeeze in one more isn't there?
I am starting to move some of my begonias into more light per hc's advice. Eldora is getting quite a bit of afternoon sun and she is looking good so far. Sophie Cecile is next.
hc, will Freddie overwinter well? Even if it lost its leaves? I think I'm going to have to cram my begonias closer together this winter. I am getting so many new ones.
THANKS ALL...Yes HC.. they do look great.. see this photo also...there are dozens of them...
funny.. that's one of the benefits of container growing.. you can make a group of flowering plants together in a minute.. for their photo.. give them the best light.. and background.. then back to wher they grow best
hcmc, the red is gorgeousbut I especially love the tone down in the throat of Plum crazy.
gordon, move my pots for pix...you and whose army, I'm little, they're big mostly.
I like the flag too.
coming back from houston this am I saw a ranch gate with a huge star over their gate and really wide red,white, and blue bunting on the 2 sides of the fence for about 2 car lengths each side, and 2 containers of red geraniums on the stone pillars.
I just got my first begonia, 'New York Swirl' It is in a light room with no direct sunlight getting to it. I have only had it for 2 weeks and is seems to be growing already. I keep spinning the pot as it was only in a 2 1/2" pot when I bought it, so it was lopsided when I re-potted it. Is this a hard begonia for my first?? Now i'm worried...
As far as I'm concerned, indoors or out, there is no such thing as "too many plants"--perhaps on Mars...
Nice thread! And Ge, Pirl--I still struggle with begonias, with varying levels of success, as well.
Oh! That one is so pretty! First time I've seen it. I was doing fine with the mini versions here til a couple of years ago--now have only one. I used to grow large ones easily in my shade container garden years ago. I just love hcm's begonias! And I drool over them every time I go to Logee's-LOL. Maybe we can teach each other...and BTW, it wasn't re-potting that killed your AV's. Give them another try--I'm always around^_^
EDIT-That pink is gorgeous!
Names? You want me to face 90 degrees to get you names??? LOL
I'll see what I have on my photo file. Sorry, no names of the begonias here.
This one is Pink Wave and it must be five years old now. It comes inside for the winter and I just let it go dormant. I plant it with new Florida Sweetheart caladiums each spring and it hasn't wilted yet despite the heat we've had and the many times I've forgotten to water it (like today).
I'll look for names on the others tonight but I don't think the peachy one had a name tag when I bought it.
Yes they are tuberous. I kept mine in their pots last winter in the basement and watered very sparingly so the tuber wouldn't shrivel too much. It is probably easier to buy a new one (or more) each year if you don't want to bother with the tubers.
Oh, oh, oh, you people are killing me! How will I deal with all the madness?
hc, are those your plants? Name the colocasia(?) please?
I can't wait to get my hands on those new boliviensis varieties.
pirl, I can't grow Tuberous Begonias to save my life. How do you do it? Mine will come up and do OK for a while and then nada. Mine usually rot. Am I overwatering? And the ones that don't rot and make it to the fall won't overwinter for me. I grow all mine in pots.
I decided this year I am going to give up on them. Unless someone can tell me how to grow them.
Do you grow the tuberous, hc?
Well, at least one tuberous I am successful with is boliviensis. I've had it for a few years now. Some will go dormant in the winter and some keep on growing right on till spring. I've even had them sprout from seed.
Rot indicates over-watering. Hold back on the water!
Mine grow in hanging baskets (and let's hope hc doesn't read this but...) I leave the begonia in the pot all winter, very seldom give it any water (maybe 1/2 cup once a month) and have never changed the soil. I guess I should change the soil but it's one of those things I don't get around to doing.
Where are you holding the pots over winter? If they fall over and die an unhappy death after they've been growing I'd bet it's the over-watering problem.
Great looking Bonfire or boliviensis Kill. I should either put my pot on a pedestal or start staking since it is hitting the ground now. All the plants I've been showing are mine. Are you talking about the Alocasia 'Frydek'? It is one of the best you can grow - very easy and multiplies rapidly. I have several other Alocasia/Colocasia too.
The problem with tuberous in the south is rot and heat. They grow great for a couple of months then disappear. I've had some over the years but they never last more than a couple of years. The best thing here is to use them as short term annuals in spring and fall, maybe winter indoors. I basically quit buying them. Most folks in FL say they cannot grow them there and I can see why.
You should see the monster tuberous they grow in CA. The blooms are 9 inches or more across!
I've had some begonias in the same soil for years too but I've tried to repot, replenish the pots that show poor growth starting last year. It makes a world of difference.
It's a sauna out there this morning and I was soaked after half an hour just walking around taking pictures and this was 10:30. The dogs were ready to come in after five minutes. The plants love it though - tropical heat.
Here is another Alocasia 'Frydek' and some canes in the same hanging basket from this morning shoot.
hc, your plants are tremendous. Thanks. Ya know I think I read somewhere once that tuberous don't like heat. That's probably the biggest reason I've been unsuccessful and the watering thing I could never figure out. Too much or too little.
The boliv. in the photo is the one that grew all through last winter. I cut it back severely before I brought it in and it just kept growing. It hasn't been repotted since last year but I give it weak fertilizer about once a day.
Thanks for the Frydek ID and info. It goes on the 'to buy' list for next year. :-)
Try a coir lined basket for tuberous next time. You can't overwater (or it's hard to overwater) with these baskets. I kept a couple of tuberous going for 2 years in one and hung it off my front porch so it got some indirect hot afternoon sun. I watered it once a day and then stored in the cool, dim garage for winter.
hc, I did that just this year. No such luck. They died after a short time while I have 2 in small plastic pots that at least are still growing. I know it's not the coir basket's fault but mine somehow. I am trying growing mine in more shade this year. Bad idea?
We're still waiting for a Lowe's to come to a town near us. Right now they're an hour away. HD is closer but devoid of anything beautiful. We have bought a lot of cast iron on Cape Cod, at a flea market, and this is my favorite planter from there.
I quit buying pots about two years ago (at least decorative pots). I still buy plastic pots from Walmart or Home Depot for potting up. My glazed pots aren't displayed any longer - sitting in some cubby hole or in the basement. I have many 18 inch resin pots bought over the years from Sam's Club and are great for displays but too big to bring indoors. I now use those for annuals and some perennials. I have a few trees in bigger pots and had three 22 inch pots with bamboo in them. One died and the other two died back but still have some sprouts. As time goes by I see that trees should be put in the ground for best results and large pots are good for some perennials so they don't have to compete with tree roots for water. Lessons taught by mother nature.
I know what you mean about Big Ceramic Pots. Then add soil and big plants and it is too much. I had a 22 or 24 inch ceramic pot with a white bird of paradise. After moving this plant in and out for a few years and never really looking all that good, I let it out over winter a few years ago. Good riddance. Why they sell these at Home Depot as indoor plants is beyond me.
Hey Kill, that dark leaf cane (or shrub) is Lynda Dawn. Looks great in summer but starting in late August it came down with the worst case of mildew I ever saw. Mallet begonias are notorious for getting mildew when the nights start getting cooler. It must have something to do with their Philippine heritage.
Here is my big Sinbad five years ago. It is another Mallet type but it makes a great summer container plant.
Move it to a bigger pot, give it a good drink to begin with, move it to the edge of a tree's canopy to where it gets some sun (late afternoon or morning) and it should do fine. Just be prepared for mildew when the nights get cool. When it sets in, you might lose it or consider treating it as an annual.
Here is another I had two years later. I didn't prune the bad leaves off like I should've. I can usually find a gallon pot at Pike's for around $5 each year so treating it as an annual is no big loss.
hc, I always worry about putting a small begonia in too large a pot. Shouldn't they be really well-rooted, short of being rootbound, before they are moved up?
Maybe that's a mistake I'm making with some of mine?
As a general rule you are right. That is a rule of safety. But rules are meant to be broken. If the plant you have has a tendency to grow large in a single growing season why bother going through stages when you can leapfrog 3 or more potting sizes. Sinbad is one that can fill a pot in a season. Of course at the end of the season you may want to lift it out of a big pot, trim it down to size, maybe root prune so it is better managed indoors due to limited space. My Bonfire this year was moved from a six inch pot to an 18 inch pot and the branches are hanging over the sides and touching the ground. In the past I obeyed the rule but never had this size in such a short amount of time. I could go on with other examples - my mother has put some of the begonias I gave her into much bigger pots and I was amazed at how much bigger and healthier they looked than my mother plants that I used to get her started. My best example is my first visit to Miami and PHOE (Palm Hammock Orchid Estates) I bought a few begonias. Two were Caribbean King and C. Queen. I got them in gallon sized pots and put them into 18 inch pots (didn't know about silly potting up rules). In one season they were monsters (pictures to follow). Now the reverse is true too. I left them out to early November and got a hard frost - all the leaves were damaged but the rhizomes looked good. I moved them into the garage with pretty cool air and dim light. The rhizomes lost some size but the next year they did pretty good but not like the first year. I repeated it the second winter and the rhizomes got even smaller. Finally the third year I potted down and kept them in a much warmer basement under lights. One more year to gain some more size and this summer they are about the size (in leaf) to my first year.
Lesson learned - pot up to a big pot if you want a bit plant. Do not use garden fertilizer on young plants. Do not over water young plants. Finally pot down if the plant is decreasing rather than increasing.
Here were my C. King and Queen back in '05 after one full growing season. These are 18 inch pots.
Well I was hoping to find both together but it looks like it will be one at a time.
The King wasn't as big as the Queen but still pretty good sized.
Lol...this thread cracks me up...someone that has never been to my garden was sitting looking around and said, "Wow you really have a lot going on here." I'm not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing...ha ha.
Here is my shot of an old wheelbarrow I fill with every little seedling I find and then some find their own way to it.