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MKIVRYAN
Scottsdale, AZ

July 10, 2010
8:46 PM

Post #7958808

OK, So I bought this palm off craigslist a few days ago and it is really sticky on all the frons. I asked them if they sprayed it with anything and they said no. They said they thought it was sap but I dont think palms have sap. Any ideas? It is crazy sticky all over it. I worry they sprayed it with something to make it look good for the sale and now it might have a hard time breathing thru this stuff. It does not wash off with soap either???

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MKIVRYAN
Scottsdale, AZ

July 10, 2010
8:48 PM

Post #7958818

I'm kind of wondering what kind it is as well. Thanks!

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gothqueen
Gainesville, FL

July 11, 2010
3:07 AM

Post #7959110

Sticky usually means bugs around here. Either mealybugs, aphids or scale. Some of these guys secrete a sugary substance called honeydew that gets on the leaves of the plants they are infesting. It can cause problems like attracting ants, that will then start "farming' the insects in order to get them to make more honeydew, and it can also harbor fungus like black sooty mold that will make your plant look terrible.

It could also be that they sprayed the plant before you got it with Neem Oil. If its Neem its okay, unless you happen to be allergic to Neem.

I would inspect really really well for any insects, and treat the plant with Neem myself if it were me, just to be sure
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 11, 2010
3:30 PM

Post #7960753

There is a spray product that's used to make leaves glossier and more attractive. Plant hire businesses use it a lot. I don't think it'd be harmful but leaves that appearance that your palms have. Whatever it is, most probably won't be a problem.

On the ID, haven't been able to work it out so far. Thought it might have been a Chamaedorea. But on a closer look leaflets on yours are blunt, Chamaedorea are mostly pointed. Although C. metallica is an exception, but that's definitely not yours.

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

July 11, 2010
5:07 PM

Post #7960961

Looks like a Solitaire Palm...Ptychosperma elegans. Should do well inside.
MKIVRYAN
Scottsdale, AZ

July 11, 2010
6:07 PM

Post #7961101

Any thoughts on how to clean it off? I have tried dawn on a wet papertowel and its so sticky the paper towel just sticks to the leaves. On a side note there is a new fron just opening up and its not sticky at all. Also some of the fronds are not sticky at all on the under side, but some are. Thanks for the input all!
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 11, 2010
7:30 PM

Post #7961339

Ptychosperma elegans has fronds that are more upright. It's also a much larger palm so would have developed a heavier trunk by that height. The leaflets are however very much like many Ptychosperma.

I wouldn't worry about cleaning off the fronds, especially using a cleaning product. It could take off natural protective layers on the fronds and the chemicals could penetrate the plant. The most I'd do is leave it out in the rain, but don't forget and leave it out when the sun comes out. It seems more like they did a quick spray, missed some parts, and the new growth will be 'clean'.

OldNed

OldNed
Merritt Island, FL
(Zone 10a)

July 12, 2010
3:21 AM

Post #7961778

Mmm...
My thinking re Solitaire ID:
Droopy fronds=weight of all the goop sprayed on
Skinny stems=the typical "grown-in-the-shade" stretch
And most important=Leaflet tips had the "ripped-off" look of Ptychospermas

However, on closer inspection, leaflet tips appear to have been scissored off-they had probably turned brown

I retract the Solitaire ID (agree with tropicbreeze on its care)
MKIVRYAN
Scottsdale, AZ

July 12, 2010
7:44 AM

Post #7962248

Yes the tip have be cut off. Thanks

palmbob

palmbob
Acton, CA
(Zone 8b)


July 13, 2010
10:48 PM

Post #7966953

Either Ptychosperma elegans or Adonidias. Nothing else matches the size of trunk with crownshaft. Even though ends of leaflets have obviously be cut, they still probably had premorse tips. Sticky stuff is definitely something sprayed on the palm.
tropicbreeze
noonamah
Australia

July 15, 2010
2:11 PM

Post #7970916

If you can, post another photo of the new fronds showing their natural shape. Adonidia would be my bet also, if the leaflets turn out with that cut-off (chewed-off) look..

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