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Schenectady, NY


July 13, 2010
9:50 AM

Post #7965132

There are a total of 214 votes:


A mobile app feature for my phone.
(24 votes, 11%)
Red dot


The ability to post more than one image at a time.
(126 votes, 58%)
Red dot


Email notifications when someone posts to a thread I'm watching.
(19 votes, 8%)
Red dot


An Activities and Events feature for festivals and lectures.
(22 votes, 10%)
Red dot


Other (tell us!)
(23 votes, 10%)
Red dot


Previous Polls

joycet
Franklin, OH
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2010
10:02 AM

Post #7965189

More than one image at a time????? That would be AWESOME!
Katlian
Carson City, NV
(Zone 6b)

July 13, 2010
10:22 AM

Post #7965254

These are the things I would like to see:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1078025/

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

July 13, 2010
11:20 AM

Post #7965404

It would be most awesome to post more than one pic at a time
rh3708
Westmoreland, TN
(Zone 7a)

July 13, 2010
2:38 PM

Post #7965850

i would like to post more than one image at a time
dpmichael
Rethymno, Crete
Greece
(Zone 10b)

July 13, 2010
2:57 PM

Post #7965895

Now that DG has grown to an immense crowd, it would be useful to have a forum with threads where only some members would be free to make comments only by invitation. Nowadays in commonplace subjects, especially with many newcomers, it is quite easy for some to start re-inventing the wheel in their comments, and I have often felt that this derails the whole discussion completely. To be polite to everybody, we never try to stop the newly-wise-owls, but it would really be nice if we could have a "circle" open to others to read, but not open to all to write- what do you think?

Please do not misunderstand me - I am not an elite-ist - I simply wonder if it is possible within DG to watch a discussion of some level without some "parsley" growing in the middle.

The "how-to" is up to the computer guys. I thought Dave presided in this forum, but I see some invisible "admin" here - anyway, I know Dave could easily knock up a good application of this sort - and let the others lay the rules and see how it goes.

Best wishes to all

Dimitri
SudieGoodman
Broaddus, TX
(Zone 8b)

July 13, 2010
4:53 PM

Post #7966257

Zone 8b, Heat Zone 9, Sam Rayburn Lake, Southeast, TX
I would greatly appreciate comments from Dave:
How he is doing?
Pics. of his landscape.
Interesting comments on a seasonal basis.

Let us hear from you, Dave.

Thank you

postmandug

postmandug
Bardstown, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2010
5:46 PM

Post #7966386

I would like DG to fix the timestamp problem in PlantFiles... It's getting really irritating after so many months to not be able to see new posts because this problem is ongoing.

Doug

And for those of you who do not know, I don't think Dave is welcome here anymore.

This message was edited Jul 13, 2010 7:48 PM
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 13, 2010
6:46 PM

Post #7966504

I'd love to see the "ignore" feature instituted.
pepper23
KC Metro area, MO
(Zone 6a)

July 13, 2010
6:50 PM

Post #7966514

I would love to be able to post more than one pic at a time.
docgipe
NORTH CENTRAL, PA
(Zone 5a)

July 13, 2010
8:03 PM

Post #7966712

I dislike Email notices on other sites. If one is active on half a dozen forums and gets an average of just three responses the in mail is plugged up with eighteen notices usually with no way to fast click to the forum. One site I am now on even Emails me a notice when I make an entry.

Posting more than one picture will really show this site some dandy misuse of time and space. If you think some individuals dominate with text just wait to see what a pile of pictures space hogs will generate. I feel the existing picture space is very generous.

Is not "stop watching" the same as an ignore?

I would like to see a character limit per post.

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 13, 2010
8:40 PM

Post #7966775

Doc, I have to agree with you, although I voted for being able to post more than one picture. Thinking more about it, the photo dominants would really take over. I don't mind seeing many photos that are useful ... like befores and afters, or photos of entire gardens, or a bed and how it relates to the plan of the garden, but photo after photo of a single flower do drive me to distraction at times.

So, disregard my vote. I think things are just fine the way they are. :-)
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 14, 2010
5:17 AM

Post #7967206

Doc - I fully agree about the photos.

If I'm enjoying a thread or forum but one person really annoys me the "ignore" feature would not show the posts that person makes.
docgipe
NORTH CENTRAL, PA
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2010
6:10 AM

Post #7967302

Pirl...Is there a site example where "ignor" can be witnessed. If yes is there a way the "ignor" would also tell the person being ignored that they are being ignored and by whom? I feel that any ignor by anyone should be clearly understood and visable to the person being ignored.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 14, 2010
6:52 AM

Post #7967384

When we used to talk about it on DG someone said another site, I don't know which one, had the feature. I doubt the other person is notified.
JuneyBug
Dover AFB, DE
(Zone 7a)

July 14, 2010
7:11 AM

Post #7967422

I wish that I could have voted for "all of the above".

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 14, 2010
8:39 AM

Post #7967652

On an old AOL chat room for widows and widowers there was an ignore button which eliminated the person from your viewing list. (It may still be there, I just haven't been there in a while.) If you hit your "ignore" button, any posts he or she made did not show up. I don't think the person was notified, though. The rooms were monitored pretty heavily though and this was mostly for cranks and weirdos. That would be a great feature. I agree with Pirl on that one.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 14, 2010
11:32 AM

Post #7968159

O bother I'm gonna get 'ignored' for sure (snort). I like the more than one pic idea cuz it takes along time to post pics one at a time and there are some threads in Forums that are for posting your daily pics so it would save alot of time. Maybe it could be a feature that could be thread specific?
CherokeeGreg
Fresno, CA
(Zone 9a)

July 14, 2010
12:28 PM

Post #7968318

I always wanted to post more than one image at a time
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 14, 2010
12:41 PM

Post #7968356

Do we really need 231 discussion forums? What a monster. For example "Specific Kinds of Plants" could become one forum (call it "advanced horticulture"). Any thread could just name the plant in question, in the title. Anyway, I find the categories to be to numerous and to specialized. Wouldn't it be easier to monitor fewer categories. Just my two cents.

This is a much improved model, IME. Of course they don't get nearly the volume that DG does, but some of the options I hear people looking for are available on the Barr Report site, http://www.barrreport.com/forum.php and TPT, http://www.plantedtank.net/

This message was edited Jul 14, 2010 2:43 PM
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 14, 2010
12:48 PM

Post #7968370

WHAT? Wayfarers are you thinkin no Dahlia Forum?!?!?!? (just funnin you :-)) I like the specific Forums cuz there are experts there who are very helpful and you can go and look at very luvly pics of specific plants. For instance the southern members post pics of their spring bulbous things on the Bulb Forum while I am in the cold and the dark that gives me a lift in Jan/Feb and right now the DLs are OUTSTANDING so that is a great Forum to visit.
mamasita
Southern Dutchess Co, NY
(Zone 5b)

July 14, 2010
1:48 PM

Post #7968486

I have to agree with pirl. I have always thought an "ignore" feature would be a nice addition. It allows the topic to continue but the person(s) and the posts are not shown to the one using the feature. Everyone else is able to see it though. You can also choose to release the ignore feature and read the posts, if you feel the desire to do so. The person being ignored is not aware that anyone is ignoring them.
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 14, 2010
2:32 PM

Post #7968596

Are we worried that the search feature isn't going to help find Dahlia posts? Just kidding. I still think some categories could be pruned back to general topics for viewing purposes. For example, beginners question would be more interesting as one forum, IMO and easier for members and the experts to follow, especially using the mobile app feature. Is this making any sense? Seriously, 231 discussion forums? I'm willing to bet some of these discussion groups would see more traffic if they were grouped in more generalized categories.

This message was edited Jul 14, 2010 4:36 PM

This message was edited Jul 14, 2010 4:41 PM
bolino
Swanton, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 14, 2010
2:38 PM

Post #7968607

I love the idea of more than one photo, especially on my gardening blog.
TexasTam
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 14, 2010
3:47 PM

Post #7968746

I would love to see a really robust but easy-to-use gardening journal online tool. Something more organized and versatile than a blog, where I could keep a sortable database of plants and growing notes, upload photos (direct from my Blackberry would be great), create bed and plant rotation grids and plans, track weather patterns, post blog entries, etc.

I'm sure this could be set up manually via WordPress or something, but a ready-made tool with gardeners in mind would be fab, don't you think?
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 14, 2010
4:56 PM

Post #7968912

Keep it simple, fewer places to post would mean fewer places to look for new posts. There are too many categories for day to day use. For example, one question I posted was answered on the Beginner Gardening forum (TY pirl) right away, but I am still waiting on a reply from off of the herb forum for the same question. If someone has a particular subject they want to look up it doesn't make it any easier if there are 231 places it might be listed.

Thank you for this survey btw.
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 14, 2010
6:43 PM

Post #7969167

If the hosta forum were taken away there would be an uproar. If the region specific ones were taken away it would be the same. If you combined the aroid forum with the people from the cacti forum, it wouldn't work. Not everyone has the same taste in gardening and they don't want to have to weed through a hundred posts that have nothing to do with what they are into. I have my favorite forums saved as such and I don't waste my time in forums that I have no interest in. For me to go looking for an answer in places where people hang out that are into something totally different than the few things I am into it would be a waste of my time.

You should never expect an answer to any question. To expect anything online will be a let down. Luckily most questions will get a response in time but sometimes they don't. It is not a valid reason to remove other peoples favorite forums just becuase someone feels that they were not treated fairly in them or didn't get their answer as fast as they thought they should.

I for one voted for the multiple picture upload feature. People in the Midwest forum asked me for more pictures of my garden in the What is Blooming thread. I obliged over and over and over again about 10 times in a row. I also do it in the Hosta forum on ocassion.

Frank
ColibriGardener
Baker, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 14, 2010
7:45 PM

Post #7969298

The ability of posting more than one picture at a time is definitely a plus.I have another application that I like to use. Google Chrome has an app/ extension called Facebook Autozoom, to use on Facebook where you just roll the mouse pointer over a picture and it automatically zooms. I just love this feature. Here's the link to the description of this feature. [HYPERLINK@chrome.google.com]

I think it's needed for DGers.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 14, 2010
7:45 PM

Post #7969300

I still can't believe you counted to know there are 231 forums wayfarers :-) I have entered you in the Great Book of Lists as a good person to know for statistics.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 14, 2010
8:50 PM

Post #7969495

I would like to be able to post more pictures on one post. Why even participate in a discussion form if you want to ignore posts? That's the whole idea, to discuss the issue, not just hear what you want to hear. It seems really rude, it has been my experience that the individuals who want ignore are usually the ones that are ignored. I don't believe it to be a coincidence but more do to a personality trait. Personally I don't need to control the discussion, thats why its a discussion, I may not like what somebody writes but its not all about me.
RxAngel
Stratford, TX
(Zone 6b)

July 14, 2010
9:18 PM

Post #7969586

I would like the ability to post more than one picture in my emails, journals and blogs. The discussion forums are for discussions, with the pictures playing a supporting role. I think those in the discussions could be limited to one pic per post, to keep people from bombarding us with "look at my pretty plant" photos. Those can be reserved for blogs, or we can create a discussion group for showing off images of your pretty plants. I don't want to discourage those who want to share their pics, but I don't feel like a discussion forum is the place for that. Or, that type of sharing can be done on the PlantFile itself...that way everyone who is looking for information on that particular plant will be able to see a great example. I hate it when I get a plant that has only one, or no, images to view.

I DO like the many, specific forums. There are so many posts in each one, and such specific information pertaining to those forums, that combining some of them and then trying to find pertinent information would be a monster of a job. If you feel like your posts fit more than one category, you can post in multiple categories to find your answer.

I would also love a mobile app for my phone, as I have plants at work as well, and sometimes want to share pics from the office.

An events calendar would be nice, but I live in the boonies, so that feature would not be one I would use.

I also like the idea of and ignore button, as long as the person isn't able to see they are being ignored. That would cause too many hurt feelings, as internet intentions can be easily mis-interpreted.


Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 15, 2010
4:35 AM

Post #7969837

Since you asked -- I'd like to see Dave back in charge of Dave's Garden.
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 15, 2010
5:05 AM

Post #7969866

dahlianut, I know there are 231 forums because I can't get to them all and I am sure that I miss out on an occasional gem of a post that lands outside the subcategory. It surprises me that the members who would like to see a mobile app feature don't back me up on this. I am not trying to say all of the specific forums should be changed and never suggested that they be removed (morphed is a better word). But, there are many more subcategory divisions then I need to enjoy reading through a topic and still find what I'm interested in.

Frank -The Beginner gardening category does not have "hundreds of posts". Each one of the subcategories has on average four post a day. So, 12 posts a day total if it were one forum. That is by far fewer post then a lot of topics on some forum sites I visit. If DG adds a mobile phone app it would be much easier to scroll through one category with 12 post, then looking at 5 categories with only 4 posts each. Same for country living, why so many sub categories when each forum has fewer then 4 post a day. If I am interested in country living wouldn't it all be interesting to me. Same with leisurely Pursuits, same with House to Home. In the House to Home category there are six forums that basically deal with plumbing and electric issues. Why couldn't they be combined. I personally find it more interesting when reading a forum and someone posts a topic I might not normally "be into". Scrolling through the posts is much easier then having to jump around to different yet similar categories.

About ignore features - yea, I might choose to ignore someone that exaggerates the facts and twists other peoples words, ranting fools berating those that have a different opinion. They often win arguments simply by yelling louder then the other guy, not because they have fairly thought about a topic or have anything to add. The problem is that they still get to post their ranting foolishness. The only difference, if I have them on ignore, I don't see it. What fun is that.

+1 what RxAngel said about more than one picture.
cedar18
Lula, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 15, 2010
5:35 AM

Post #7969902

On second thought after reading the posts here, I too (like Judyin GA) rescind my vote for more than one image at a time. It would probably just clog things up.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 15, 2010
6:41 AM

Post #7970031

Morphed and ignored hmmmm. I would like to know if I'm being ignored cuz it would make me laugh to see 'You are being ignored by 734 1/2 people' on my home page. Maybe there could be a contest for who gets ignored the most :-)

YA! DITTO what weedwhacker said!!!!

Also if there are new techie things added, please and thank you for a FAQ for us non-techies to figure it out.
docgipe
NORTH CENTRAL, PA
(Zone 5a)

July 15, 2010
8:08 AM

Post #7970232

Yea...we could all use Dmail to gang up on an ignored person. With a bit of effort and technique tweeking we could likely push an ignored to eliminated. Of course we need the ignored button to be counted so a dozen ignored blacks out a severely ignored. Three times severly ignored is off the site for as long as it takes one to re-enter with a new userid. Maybe we could get a whole desktop screen flasher to anounce the death of another member. Background music too? Sure why not?
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 15, 2010
8:52 AM

Post #7970346

Diversity can be a good thing but y'all are just a bunch of segregationists.
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
10:49 AM

Post #7970575

The inability to post more than one photo at one time makes the thread longer resulting in starting "New Threads" or lenghty bloging inputs and updates .

Having The ability to up load more than one photo at one time instead of making a patch work photo would make things much nicer for showing issues one is having with gardens or showing off flowers ,or bloging about one's fav's things .

I Vote Yes for the Opption to upload more Photos at Once So they are in one spot with the post or Blog that you have Writen .

Thank You,

The Sarge

Thumbnail by Ret_Sgt_Yates
Click the image for an enlarged view.

locakelly

locakelly
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

July 15, 2010
11:17 AM

Post #7970626

I would like the ability to post more than one photo at a time. Another site I am on we can do that and it doesn't seem to be a problem with people hogging all the space for their pictures... at leastt not on the forums I regularly visit.

I do hope it is a feature that is not abused if we are able to get that ability. There are definitely instances where it would be advantageous!

I also somewhat like the idea of an ignore feature...

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
12:05 PM

Post #7970693

I like the idea of more than one picture, but with a limit on how many
per post. I don't want to scroll down 4 feet to see 20 pictures
of someone's petunias in one post. ;-)

Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
12:14 PM

Post #7970704

I'll agree with that June, However in the Blog area it would be nice to upload what one wanted in one set .

Sarge

melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


July 15, 2010
1:07 PM

Post #7970779

What kind of limit in the forums would ya'll suggest? (provided we can do it)

4 per post maybe?

locakelly

locakelly
Phoenix, AZ
(Zone 9a)

July 15, 2010
1:47 PM

Post #7970874

Yep - 3 or 4 is a good number...
Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 15, 2010
2:00 PM

Post #7970896

I would agree, no more than 4.

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
2:46 PM

Post #7970993

Definitely no more than 4 per post in a thread.

I don't read blogs so that would be up those folks to decide.
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
2:57 PM

Post #7971011

A serious attempt to up date the Journal features. Patti
TexasTam
Plano, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 15, 2010
4:03 PM

Post #7971132

Here, here Patti - I'm with you on that. And I'd be happy to offer my suggestions and ideas to whoever would be in charge of updating the journal functionality.
rockgardner
Billerica, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 15, 2010
4:25 PM

Post #7971166

Katlian wrote:These are the things I would like to see:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1078025/


ditto... especially...
rockgardner wrote:By the way, I LOVE that match-maker idea also ;)
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1065632/

mauryhillfarm
Vashon, WA
(Zone 8b)

July 15, 2010
5:38 PM

Post #7971323

I have never felt the need for an ignore button. Generally people are quite civil and work things out if an issue arises, but this is quite rare. I prefer DG being a more tolerant place than that. If someone's posts genuinely and routinely annoy you, just scroll on by. I don't want that uncomfortable feeling of people being shunned by a few or many.

I would like the ability to post more than one photo. Though I have only wished for this option a few times in the past, it would have been nice to get it all in one post rather than stringing photos along in several posts.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

July 15, 2010
6:14 PM

Post #7971428

Used to be complaints about the Search features. I don't know offhand how well the Search box works for people these days.

postmandug

postmandug
Bardstown, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 15, 2010
6:37 PM

Post #7971482

The search feature would be better if it included the forums and posts, not just articles, PlantFiles etc. I've keyed search words looking for a post I replied to that may have become dormant only to get results in PlantFiles, Articles, Marketplace etc. but NOT the forums. As far as an ignore feature goes, I just don't read the posts from some one I want to ignore... (Not you Dahlianut!!!!!)

Doug

melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


July 15, 2010
6:41 PM

Post #7971490

Doug, it does include the forums. Click the advanced search tab and you'll be able to select the forum, date range, and even the member if you want.
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

July 15, 2010
7:17 PM

Post #7971589

4 is a good # to set it at

the blog at 6 would be good.


Sarge
TPNursery
South Lake Tahoe, CA

July 15, 2010
7:46 PM

Post #7971643

Would love to post more then one photo at a time.
klstuart
Simpsonville, SC
(Zone 7b)

July 15, 2010
8:30 PM

Post #7971773

Voted for more than one image at a time, but would also love the activities and events feature!
PuddlePirate
North Ridgeville, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 15, 2010
9:25 PM

Post #7971909

I'd love to see RSS feeds for the forum threads.

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
3:33 AM

Post #7972106

I would like to see more than one photo per thread; four seems to be a reasonable number. There are still some poor souls on dialup so a limitation isn't a bad idea. I was going to vote for email notification when a new response was posted in a thread you have participated in, but I agree with a comment above that that feature could really clog your mailbox on a busy site like DG, unless you only post in a very few places. What about a notification when you receive a Dmail, though? Many other forums that I use offer that.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


July 16, 2010
5:38 AM

Post #7972298

greenhouse_gal wrote:What about a notification when you receive a Dmail, though? Many other forums that I use offer that.


We do - if you don't read a dmail within 48 hours of its arrival, the system sends you a "message waiting" notification to your email account.

Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
6:10 AM

Post #7972365

it pops up under the tabs and I get one in my e-mail after a day or two .

Sarge

greenhouse_gal

greenhouse_gal
Southern NJ
United States
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
6:26 AM

Post #7972393

Thanks, Terry. I guess I never go 48 without logging on to check things out, here!

postmandug

postmandug
Bardstown, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 16, 2010
6:53 AM

Post #7972460

Terry, did Melody get with you on my suggestion?

Doug

melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


July 16, 2010
6:58 AM

Post #7972475

Yes Doug, we're talking about how to best to do this. We've a couple of options, and are looking for the best one.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2010
7:00 AM

Post #7972484

""We do - if you don't read a dmail within 48 hours of its arrival, the system sends you a "message waiting" notification to your email account."" Terry
I bet I never go 48 hrs without DG, and always check a dmail first! I have more fun with DG than regular email
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
7:04 AM

Post #7972497

I have DG with draws when my comp crashed( i chuched it out the door ) and i was down for 3 days i had to git my pap's comp folks round here were bout to haul me off . till my wife told them just let him on the computer to git on Dave's Garden and Git his Fix and he will be fine .LOL

Sarge
Katlian
Carson City, NV
(Zone 6b)

July 16, 2010
9:13 AM

Post #7972863

Could the list of families be added to the advanced search for PlantFiles? I was looking for a red flowered member of the pea family (that I couldn't remember the name of) and it took a while to pour through all of the red flowered perennials.
TPNursery
South Lake Tahoe, CA

July 16, 2010
9:30 AM

Post #7972906

How about a "pop-up window" with friends online?

Must have a link to make friends too.

:)

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2010
9:52 AM

Post #7972958

Please don't turn DG into a social networking site. We have enough of those. If that's what you're looking for, DG has a FB page where you can see friends galore, leave comments, etc..

Dave's is so unique that, except for a few tweaks, to change it would be a disservice to all who use it. Adding the four pic limit per post is enough. It appears that many features that folks want are already here. They just need to know how to find and use them.

It really ain't broke. You know the rest :-)

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
10:04 AM

Post #7972983

I'm strongly with JudyinGA on this. DG is unique as it is and I would not not
continue if it turned into another social networking site. There are plenty of
those. I don't need links to "make friends" nor do I want everyone to see
when I am online. Many of us work and don't have time to spend all day
on DG.
Quoting: It really ain't broke. You know the rest :-)





Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 16, 2010
10:26 AM

Post #7973016

I have to agree with Judy and June on this --

(hey, something like half a million of my closest friends are here on DG, I can just look at the membership list for that)

;-)

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
10:35 AM

Post #7973035

One thing I do want to continue is having certain forums only
accessible to paid subscribers, e.g., Parking Lot. I realize that still
leaves those "private" threads open to 7,000 people but that's a
lot better than enabling a universal Google search of every word we
post in DG.

We all know there is no privacy on the Internet, but having some
threads less public than others is a feature I appreciate and am willing
to pay a subscription fee to have it.


postmandug

postmandug
Bardstown, KY
(Zone 6a)

July 16, 2010
11:02 AM

Post #7973089

Agreed June.

Doug
PuddlePirate
North Ridgeville, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 16, 2010
11:10 AM

Post #7973106

JudyinGA wrote:Please don't turn DG into a social networking site. We have enough of those. If that's what you're looking for, DG has a FB page where you can see friends galore, leave comments, etc.


I wholeheartedly agree.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
11:16 AM

Post #7973124

Ditto.
TPNursery
South Lake Tahoe, CA

July 16, 2010
11:53 AM

Post #7973183

Didn't know DG was on Facebook. thanks!

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2010
12:14 PM

Post #7973230

See? There ya go ... one of those features you didn't even know about. The FB page is great. They just had a photo contest and are about to do another. I didn't win :-( but it was fun anyway.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2010
12:22 PM

Post #7973257

I didn't know that either. I do know that DG has many features I dont know about or can't figure out how to use. I'm better with dirt then computers!

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2010
1:37 PM

Post #7973459

I can't figure out how to do the journal but I'm so new there's not much to "journ" yet. I just keep a notebook here by the computer and write in it when I can remember to do it. What I ordered ... from whom ... receipts ... what I planted ... whether it lived or died ... stuff like that. I keep the plant tags in the pockets. Would love to do an online journal though so I could add pics. The verbage is confusing. But that is a great feature. I enjoy browsing through other people's journals and looking at their pics.

And, of course, Plant Files and Garden Watchdog go hand-in-hand. Just yesterday I was looking for a particular antique rose I had lost in the snow and ice last year. Looked it up on Plant Files, saw the vendors who had it for sale, found one really close over in Alabama (never heard of it before), checked the Garden Watchdog (excellent ratings), went to the website and found they had many hard-to-find antique roses (so I ordered another) and ordered for September shipment. (You can add a note and I said "do not substitute.") I figured the closer the nursery, the less time the plant will be on the road when it's shipped. Also, they're grown in my weather conditions. Got an email immediately with a note from a real person (wow!) who complimented me on my choice and pointed me to another site where I could get a book on Noisettes (which I also ordered from the Charleston Horticultural Society). And all done from references on DG.

Needless to say, I am very happy here.

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 16, 2010
3:03 PM

Post #7973694

I will change the subject as I have an idea of a thing I would like to see.
Submit a list of members you interact with often & be notified when one of them posts in a forum. Like people said, there are 231 forums & no way to keep track of all of them. I've missed important things my "friends" have posted in forums I do not "watch".

I'm with Doug, get rid of that obnoxious plant files thing in latest threads!

Bernie

melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


July 16, 2010
3:19 PM

Post #7973726

Bernie, the time stamp issue should get rid of the PlantFiles problem with the latest threads. A couple of quick fixes caused problems elsewhere. They should be rolling out this fix shortly. We're all looking forward to that and it shouldn't be long.

Many moons ago, before Facebook was even a glint in the creator's eye, we tried a 'whose on line' thing and it was overwhelmingly decided to do away with it after about a week. The DG Facebook page is neat and you can follow various activities and see who else is there: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/Daves-Garden/60793307544

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
3:54 PM

Post #7973782

Bernie, being followed around everywhere I post would make me
feel like I was being stalked! ;-) If such a feature were to be considered
many of us might want an option to block it for ourselves. Even on
my Twitter account I have it set so people have to put in a request
before they can follow me.

I'm with you though on the plant files thing in latest threads!
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2010
4:11 PM

Post #7973821

"I'm with Doug, get rid of that obnoxious plant files thing in latest threads!"
What's Doug and Bernie talking about? What I missing, again?
Lisa

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 16, 2010
5:52 PM

Post #7974044

Not getting "an obnoxious plant files thing." Am I being ignored? :-)

CountryGardens

CountryGardens
Lewisville, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 16, 2010
5:56 PM

Post #7974056

It is on there now!
Look at "Latest Posts" on the home page.
The posts are dated some time in the future.

This message was edited Jul 16, 2010 7:57 PM
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
5:58 PM

Post #7974061

All of them, right now, are dated 3:14 tomorrow morning.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2010
5:59 PM

Post #7974064

I WAS wondering about that. Also noticed that posts were edited before they were posted! OH well, just thinking ahead.
g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

July 16, 2010
7:38 PM

Post #7974283

imagine knowing of all the events/shows/carnivals etc. right around the world,.before they were on and having people post their pictures and experiences of such events.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 16, 2010
7:41 PM

Post #7974287

CountryGardens FABBY idea about somehow hiding all the long lists of plant file postings in the 'latest posts' (but thanks everso to all those who post all those entries). Oh dear I wouldn't have any friends if they were notified eveywhere I posted cuz I'm a Forum Floozy. Ditto from me: DG is unique because it isn't a 'networking' site; methinks if it was it would the same ole, same ole as all those other sites. I find the search feature works pretty good for me if I'm looking for specific info in a specific forum. I've learned though that it doesn't work very well if you can't spell a plant correctly but I REALLY appreciated that it doesn't ask 'Did you mean...' (Googleguy can be tiresome).

ps Terry & Melody this is a GREAT poll. Thanks.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 16, 2010
7:43 PM

Post #7974290

Hi g_whizz :-)
g_whizz
rosetta TASMANIA
Australia

July 16, 2010
7:46 PM

Post #7974295

hi there,you've been quiet of late,..,we're still here,still crazy
ColibriGardener
Baker, LA
(Zone 8b)

July 16, 2010
7:50 PM

Post #7974305

I still vote for a DG's photo zoom as well as multi upload capabilities!
WaterCan2
Eastern Long Island, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 16, 2010
8:04 PM

Post #7974330

I vote for lower renewal rates.
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 16, 2010
9:17 PM

Post #7974500

Forum Fluzzy I love that.
patgeorge
Nurmo
Finland
(Zone 4b)

July 17, 2010
5:17 AM

Post #7974918

Agree with june about practically everything! Yes four photos would be reasonable.

melody

melody
Benton, KY
(Zone 7a)


July 17, 2010
6:32 AM

Post #7975071

The PlantFiles latest post problem should be cleared up shortly. The problem wasn't something they could put a patch on and get us by, and major surgery was required. (too many other things were affected, we discovered)
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2010
6:45 AM

Post #7975106

A lot of forums have the option to look at posts made by a member. DG doesn't (at least I think they don't) but does let you look at threads someone has started. I find both options to be very helpful when I need to remember something useful someone said and if there isn't one already it would be nice to have a way to subscribe to a thread to save it for a rainy day. If you don't say a lot of foolish things stalking really wouldn't be an issue.

Ditto - removing plant files from latest threads. You know me now - pruning and all around. KISS
WaterCan2
Eastern Long Island, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2010
6:51 AM

Post #7975119

- Agree w/ doc about the pics. Some people are control freaks which 'dump' 10 or more photos on a thread in sequence, (usually ridiculously bad photos at that). Either they get carried away / or the intent is to bury a previous post. I find such practices both childish and in bad form. In fact it seems that some believe the more photos they put up in a dump the better photogs they are, (which is usually completely opposite to the fact). The dumps provide a lot of dead space which take up a lot of room and make the thread slower to load, I can only surmise they serve as a type of gratification for attention deprived individuals...
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2010
7:23 AM

Post #7975187

DG's forums are way to busy (what I mean by that is there are too many forum subdivisions) for my taste. I usually come here to look at plant files and to keep a journal.

Maybe have another poll. Ask members if a category could just as easily be lumped together as one forum, i.e. Beginner Gardeners as one forum, Country Living as one forum, Plant and Seed Trading as one forum, Crafts as one forum, Cooking and Entertaining as one forum, Back Porch as one forum, and Leisurely Pursuits. They all could just as easily stand on their own with out all the added detail. From House to Home and General Gardening are divided up with such attention to detail that the obsession becomes an annoyance. Just my two cents. I have loved this site for many years, but it has been an unconditional love - not a love that depends on anything.

Ditto - what WaterCan2 has experienced.

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2010
7:46 AM

Post #7975260

I just want to toss in a comment that it is so nice to see a group
once again peacefully tossing ideas around. As Dahlianut said:
"this is a GREAT poll". Thanks.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


July 17, 2010
7:57 AM

Post #7975296

wayfarers wrote:A lot of forums have the option to look at posts made by a member. DG doesn't (at least I think they don't) but does let you look at threads someone has started. I find both options to be very helpful when I need to remember something useful someone said and if there isn't one already it would be nice to have a way to subscribe to a thread to save it for a rainy day. If you don't say a lot of foolish things stalking really wouldn't be an issue.

Ditto - removing plant files from latest threads. You know me now - pruning and all around. KISS


You can "watch" any thread which does put it in a file where you can locate it at any time. Unless you've tweaked your own settings, you will automatically "watch" any thread you start and any thread you post to. But you can also choose to "watch" any thread, even if you are just lurking - the link is at the top of each thread ;o)

rockgardner
Billerica, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 17, 2010
8:06 AM

Post #7975330

As much as I like most of the suggestions noted, I notice there's a lot members asking for features that already exist. Since DG has become so complex to so many, especially newbies (after a year, I still feel like a newbie), how about a Wiki type "Member User's Guide"? I know most of the info on DG features exist somewhere on DG, but it's in bits and pieces. How many times have we discovered a feature you didn't know existed, or wish a certain feature existed, and later find out it already does? If one even bothers to look for info on a particular feature or even if it exists, it can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack! Let's make that process a little easier.

june_nmexico

june_nmexico
Albuquerque, NM
(Zone 7a)

July 17, 2010
8:42 AM

Post #7975458

Rockgardner - Brilliant idea and long overdue.
I've been around since 2006 and still have to poke around
to find information and am likely unaware of many features.
Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 17, 2010
9:26 AM

Post #7975584

That is a great suggestion, Rockgardner -- I can't believe no one else has mentioned it!

:-)
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2010
10:49 AM

Post #7975755

How about a market place where all orders from the same person are on one form.
dahlianut
Calgary, AB
(Zone 3a)

July 17, 2010
11:44 AM

Post #7975848

Wonderous idea rockgardener. I would use that feature for sure!
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 17, 2010
12:19 PM

Post #7975893

I would too if I could figure out how.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


July 17, 2010
12:50 PM

Post #7975922

rockgardner wrote:As much as I like most of the suggestions noted, I notice there's a lot members asking for features that already exist. Since DG has become so complex to so many, especially newbies (after a year, I still feel like a newbie), how about a Wiki type "Member User's Guide"? I know most of the info on DG features exist somewhere on DG, but it's in bits and pieces. How many times have we discovered a feature you didn't know existed, or wish a certain feature existed, and later find out it already does? If one even bothers to look for info on a particular feature or even if it exists, it can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack! Let's make that process a little easier.


We have FAQs for each area of the site - is that what you're thinking of, or some sort of centralized area with information?

gardenglory
Gainesville, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 17, 2010
1:07 PM

Post #7975940

I am just out of my mind that you cant follow the latest post, most of the time. Whats with the plant files stuff being down there so much. I really dont like that, I like to follow the latest post most of the time, not just my book marked post. My vote would be to fix that first.

Two images would be my choice of something new.

I dont mean to sound whinny, but this has gone on now for a bit. I dont want it to become a permanate feature, like taking forever to sign on.

This message was edited Jul 17, 2010 3:12 PM
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 17, 2010
1:59 PM

Post #7976022

ThanksTerry, I forgot about that. I'm new to the forums here, well for the reasons I stated earlier. Might I suggest that the "Thread Watcher" could be more versatile. Another forum I frequent has a quick link with a drop down list to take me to subscribed threads, the threads I watch. What it allows, that would be nice here too, is for me to categorize the list of saved threads into categories I create. Wen I am looking for a saved thread on a particular aspect of aquariums I can find it very easily.

Please take a look at their site, http://www.plantedtank.net/ The home page and all the controls are extremely user friendly, without being overwhelming. Another site that has many exciting features is http://www.barrreport.com/ - links to YouTube, a mobile app feature, RSS feed and other stuff I don't know much about but that makes my life easier. Sorry to sound this way. I know that changing the operating system will cause many more problems but this site is cluttered and antiquated and in the long run the improvement will be worth it, IMO. So, what I would like since you asked is, I would like for DG to have less clutter and an updated operating system. Maybe something like this, http://www.gardenstew.com/

This message was edited Jul 18, 2010 7:12 AM
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 17, 2010
3:24 PM

Post #7976254

The old saying goes:

If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
rockgardner
Billerica, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 17, 2010
3:55 PM

Post #7976326

Terry wrote:
We have FAQs for each area of the site - is that what you're thinking of, or some sort of centralized area with information?


By "Wiki" type "Member User's Guide" I was definitely thinking of a centralized area where members could research features within DG. Maybe a section which is indexed and searchable and put together in a similar manner like the PF database.

A simplier but less efficient idea would be to create a forum specifically for Q&A pertaining to DG features. But I don't think that idea would work anywhere as well in the long run... better then FAQs though (which are not intereactive)... IMHO.

Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 17, 2010
4:33 PM

Post #7976414

It would definitely be great to have it all in one place; from this thread it's pretty apparent that there a lot of features many people are not even aware of, never mind know how to use.

I know it's been said before, but the journal feature could really use an overhaul, I've all but given up on using it because I keep going around in circles.
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 18, 2010
4:33 AM

Post #7977237

Franknjim, Brand loyalty is a terrible thing to waist.

" Today I realised that every time I hear the phrase if it isn't broken, don't fix it I feel kind of uncomfortable. I fully understand the notion: the process yields the results we want, so why bother?

As it is being said, I detect the whatever works attitude emanating from the person saying it. No concept of continuous improvement. No interest in reflecting. Not even 60 seconds invested to consider whether the process is efficient or could be improved. It most cases itís almost a canned response to any comment referring to the efficiency of a process that is considered to be working."
Excerpt from, invalid cast at http://www.invalidcast.com/post/The-if-it-isnt-broken-dont-fix-it-mentality.aspx

I wouldn't mind paying more for a membership if I knew that the money was providing a better platform. Here is another old saying, "you get what you pay for."

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2010
7:55 AM

Post #7977624

... and for $19.95 a year you get a heckuva lot on DG.
pirl
(Arlene) Southold, NY
(Zone 7a)

July 18, 2010
7:59 AM

Post #7977632

More fun than I can get for 7 gallons of gas for the same price.
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 18, 2010
9:11 AM

Post #7977809

If you say so JudyinGa. IMO, they could do more. There are a heckuva lot of things wonderful about DG. But are we really being served, considering the income DG generates. Lame old sayings rarely address the complexity of our lives. Sorry about that last one. It was inappropriate. But, would you pay more as a DG member if they keep the operating system as is? That is all I was trying to say.

This message was edited Jul 18, 2010 11:12 AM
1lisac
Liberty Hill, TX
(Zone 8a)

July 18, 2010
9:20 AM

Post #7977822

Way-Why don't you try using spell check before asking for more features? (GRIN) Don't even use the ones that are avaliable
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 18, 2010
9:22 AM

Post #7977826

People constantly whining throughout a thread and repeating the same thing over and over gets very old. Everyone got your point the first time you said it so there is no need to keep repeating it 6 times over. Considering the cost of a subscription versus what you can actually accomplish on this website, it is a bargain. If you are so against the way things are, why do you come here?

The majority of people want the same improvement to the site. The numbers above speak for themselves. While different points of view is always a good thing, running that point into the ground is as you say, lame.

JudyinGA

JudyinGA
Newnan, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 18, 2010
9:33 AM

Post #7977848

I don't believe Dave's has asked us to pay more, have they? And yet they pose the question (hypothetical or not) of whether we want new/additional features. If and when they ask us to pay more, then I'll make the decision. If they add new features, then I'd probably be willing to pay more. But it would depend on what the feature/features was/were. If they raised the fee slightly without adding new features but clarified old ones ... made any improvements at all ... I'd probably not complain at that either.

I am strongly against making simple and easy-to-use things complicated. Not all of us are on the same level of "computer savviness." Dave's, blessedly, has remained simple to use (except for the journal ... darned if I can figure that one out), even for those of us who aren't "techies." I am still discovering how to use some of the features, but only because I haven't needed them. Perhaps the suggestion of a page where all the features were explained and we were shown how to use them is a very good idea. That's not a new feature. Just a new place where old ones are explained.
perenniallyme
Jamaica Plain, MA
(Zone 6a)

July 18, 2010
9:48 AM

Post #7977889

Oh goody. Here are my pet peeves, which I would like to see fixed:

1. Plantfiles: I would really like to see genus/species/cultivar in alphabetical order, rather than by date added. It would make searching a lot easier.

2. Trade list search: When searching by plant, if you click on someone, when you go back you are taken to the beginning of the list and have to go through all over again. I would like to see the back button take you back to where you were before. Maybe adding pages would fix this?

3. I would like to see more space given for comments in feedback.

Those are the main things that come to mind.

growin

growin
Vancouver, BC
(Zone 8b)


July 18, 2010
12:25 PM

Post #7978326

It would be handy to have the search capable of searching for a characteristic within a genus. ie. "Rhododendron" "purple" instead of having to go through all shrubs that are evergreen that are purple. It's often what I need for a quick answer so if someone asks me for a white Astilbe, just enter the genus and the characteristic of white for colour. Currently we don't have this available.
wayfarers
Washington, DC
(Zone 6b)

July 18, 2010
12:37 PM

Post #7978349

Actually franknjim, the day before I saw this survey, I was thinking the very same thing. Some of you people are extremely rude and stuck on yourselves.
Gwendalou
Langley, WA
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2010
8:26 AM

Post #7980400

I would like the ability to post more than one photo and have it be embedded into the post AND also the email notification!
Tortured_Muse
Youngsville, NC
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2010
8:33 AM

Post #7980419

Other:

For those of us who only read plain text emails, a link on the "home" page to the current newsletter as a webpage, or at least links to the stories featured within would be nice. A button along the top menu would be great for those who just want to come in and take a quick peek at something that caught their eye in the newsletter. Thank you.

Terry

Terry
Murfreesboro, TN
(Zone 7a)


July 19, 2010
10:26 AM

Post #7980706

Tortured_Muse wrote:Other:

For those of us who only read plain text emails, a link on the "home" page to the current newsletter as a webpage, or at least links to the stories featured within would be nice. A button along the top menu would be great for those who just want to come in and take a quick peek at something that caught their eye in the newsletter. Thank you.


That's a very good idea - we should definitely create a spot each Monday with a link to the current one, and also to the archives ;o)

Gwendalou
Langley, WA
(Zone 7b)

July 19, 2010
1:56 PM

Post #7981218

After reading thru the above responses, I would like to say I disagree about limiting the number of photos in one post, if you are able to allow multiple photos in a post. There are so many instances I can think of where more than one photo is necessary. Roundups are a good example. I want to see all the photos someone took, not just 4 or 5. It is so easy to scroll quickly thru something you don't want to see!

I really don't think anyone is going to post 20 photos of the same petunia. But if they do, someone on that forum can enlighten them as to why that's not a good idea. I doubt people are going to do that. It takes a lot of time to upload photos and who wants to spend the time uploading multiples of the same photo?! Those who want to do that will do it whether they have to post the photo one by one or are able to do them all in one post.

Imo, it doesn't really save a lot of time posting multiple photos in a post vs one post at a time. What it does do is make it possible to post a much more interesting and readable post where you can put in text, then a photo, more text to describe the next photo, etc.

In plant I.D., if you want to post a photo of the whole plant, a closeup of the leaves and a closeup of the flower, which is often necessary in order to ID the plant, you have to put in wording because you cannot post just a photo in a post. Big waste of time and also much more cumbersome for the reader/viewer.

I am on several sites where multiple photos are allowed in a post and I have never ever seen it abused in the many years I've been on those sites.
TPNursery
South Lake Tahoe, CA

July 19, 2010
4:04 PM

Post #7981490

Making it easier for the buyer:


Combining Multiple items onto one Invoice.

Using the "Paypal Link" as a form of checkout.


bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

July 20, 2010
7:20 AM

Post #7982992

I will be brave and bring up some actual much needed improvements to the Journal with my most wanted specific requests, yet again. I feel like a whiner.

!. After using the most helpful "Search your journal" to locate a group of plants, it would be terrific and most useful to be able to resort that list that appears as needed at that specific moment. For example, if you had initially searched for all the Hemerocallis in your journal and then you were able to resort it alphabetically you could now easily see which Hemerocallis were in your garden to make sure you were not reordering ones that you already had, or resort it by Location in your garden to see where you could possible cram yet another DL that has caught your eye.

2. The Journal is set up to have the Rid Number then Common Name, then Cultivar, followed by Genus, and then followed by species which makes it impossible to cut and paste a listing in the logical order. The Cultivar always follows the species in universal botanical usage. It should be Genus - species - Cultivar as it appears in the Plant list as an example: Iris versicolor 'Mysterious Monique' This would be hugely helpful when labeling photos to post on the forums or in my Photo Files or when I am writing anything about my garden rather than having it appear wrong,Mysterious Monique Iris versicolor

3. I personally would love an empty box to use as I wish. Everyone keeps a journal for personal reasons. I, personally would love to be able to see the vendors name, but a hybridizer might want cross information or year registered while someone who trades, may want a place to list quantity numbers which would be apparent without viewing the whole listing. I would be happy to give up the space given to Entries, or give less space for the common name, as some plants have way too many. That wish could conflict with Plant Files

4. The feature which allows us to print "Click here to prepare the items on this page for printing" our journal pages would be far more useful again if it could be sorted to reflect our needs. It comes out in some random order that is not very user friendly. I love having that list with all the information on it in hand when I go out to plant, but it is never fun hunting for a particular plant on the list.

5. The Box " Begin Date" only keeps the current year date, but drops all the previous years and posts only the Month and Day date not the Year. Not helpful. I have circumvented it by my using the status box to reflect the year planted . But this means that I need to have a new status for each year which is cumbersome. I want the date to be complete for every year, such as May 14, 2006.

But despite it all my wishes, I still love my journal, however I would love an update. Patti

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