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KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 19, 2010
12:21 PM

Post #7980988

I don't know how it is anywhere else, but here in Southeastern WI, with the plentiful rain, and now heat and humidity, it's been a banner year for the mosquito population. I think I'm about to go insane! The dogs bring them in the house every time they come back from a trip outside, and I'm constantly squishing them (or being bitten). They go by the stove light and die there--I had one fall in the dinner I was preparing one night, which made me have to start over from scratch. (Sorry, but mosquito will never be an ingredient in one of my meals. Ugh!) I go outside to pull a few weeds and they swarm me almost instantly. My neighbors must think I'm nuts as I step outside, pull a weed or two, and then end up running for the house while wildly flailing my arms and shaking my head.

The coup de gras was this weekend. My brother always gets a bunch of fireworks for his (July 3rd) birthday. Saturday night, he put on a display for us, lighting them off. I wore jeans, socks, tennis shoes and a 3/4 length shirt. I covered my arms and face with mosquito spray and figured I'd be okay. I only got one bite where I had spray on--right on my index finger. But the little #%*&ers bit right through my jeans, socks and shirt. I have no less than 79 bites ( counted), most of them on my knees where the fabric was snug against my skin. The itching is making me feel crazed, and it sure isn't allowing me to get any sleep. :(

I think mosquitoes are proof of evolution--only a natural process like evolution could have devised such a vile little insect. My husband says, "But they're food for bats and frogs! Circle of life..." and I say that bats and frogs could feed off of the plentiful insects that don't feed on US.

*grumble* *scratch*
pastime
Waterman, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
6:37 AM

Post #7982846

Same here in northern Illinois. I tried 4 times this morning to take a picture of a daylily. They were on my face, I tried not to move, so I could get a good shot. 4 times, 4 blurry pictures. I give up. They are evil bugs.
neheskett
Albert Lea, MN
(Zone 4b)

July 20, 2010
10:24 AM

Post #7983453

Yep, they are awful here in southern MN too. I'm one of those people they seem to be especially attracted to...even if nobody else is being bothered, they'll find me! The dang things always find the one tiny spot on my body where the mosquito spray didn't quite cover...which usually ends up being a butt cheek or somewhere in the middle of the back. I can't even get near my garden any more, I swear they know to lurk just where I want to be!
textilis
Saint Paul, MN
(Zone 4a)

July 20, 2010
7:52 PM

Post #7984692

In the summer, I don't use my usual Aveda products. The natural botanicals really attract the bugs. My time outside is much more peaceful when I'm scentless...
marie_
West Central, WI
(Zone 4a)

July 21, 2010
8:58 AM

Post #7985618

My skeeters are dreadful 24/7 this year! My first 3 minutes outside are fine, and then they find me. The only way that I can work outside is to be completely marinaded in DEET. I'm not thrilled with the idea of being soaked in chemicals, but nothing else works...and I need to spray my clothing as well. Jeans hardly even slow them down. I should buy shares of Deep Woods Off.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 21, 2010
7:15 PM

Post #7987118

Oh, yes - hate 'em. HATE 'em! Kayley, I don't think I have as many in Des Plaines as you, being in a suburb rather than country setting, but they're bad here, too. I can't even get out and do things in the garden! If it's not them, it's bees, heat, humidity . . .

AARRGGHH!
Weedwhacker
Bark River (UP), MI
(Zone 4b)

July 21, 2010
9:18 PM

Post #7987362

Kayly, take heart -- I've been here in mosquitoville so long that I don't get enough reaction to count the bites anymore.

Not that they aren't still extremely annoying!

(and the black flies don't even seem to have shown up yet...)
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2010
9:40 PM

Post #7987394

What I can't figure out is why they're way worse in my front yard than they are in my back, when the back is a jungle and the front is...well, better kept, at least. (I try, but this has been a banner year for weeds as well as mosquitoes!) I lean over my front hosta bed and there are half a dozen of them in my face in seconds. Jerks!

At least the bites that I have are now no longer itching. Took about 48 hours (and that was madness!) before they calmed down. But now I feel extremely paranoid. Everything I see out of the corner of my eye is a mosquito. hehe

Meanwhile, while the stupid mosquitoes are forcing me indoors, the Japanese beetles have arrived and are snacking, particularly in the backyard. I see people with traps all over the place, so I have to assume this is a widespread thing this year. They're making Swiss cheese out of my hostas in back. Fortunately, they haven't paid much attention to the ones out front as far as I can see. *knock wood!*
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
4:14 AM

Post #7987579

Skeeters are bad here too but I am one of those lucky fellers that they do not like. Even though I don't get eaten alive, I still don't like a swarm of bugs in my face, up my nose or in my ears. I haven't seen any Japanese beetles yet even though the local news recently did a story on them. They will be done eating your hostas in 3 weeks and then the beetles will die. I just have a ton of slugs eating things here. My Fragrant Blue should be renamed Fragrant Swiss.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

July 22, 2010
6:51 AM

Post #7987851

Hey! Swiss cheese hosta! I like it! : )

Weedwhacker, I would happily send you some of my flies since you don't have any, except my cat loves to catch those that come in the house!

I've come to understand that gardening is a spring and fall activity for all except the thick skinned and strong hearted!
franknjim
Peoria, IL
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
6:56 AM

Post #7987862

[quote="sherriseden"]I've come to understand that gardening is a spring and fall activity for all except the thick skinned and strong hearted![/quote]

You left out the thick headed!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
8:05 AM

Post #7988003

Mosquitoes have been terrible here as well. I just get a sense of revenge for the ones that stung me last night should have had a pretty good hangover this morning...lol

My husband usually sprays the shrubs, trees, grass what ever he can get to with Cutters Backyard Bug Control. Has worked well for the mosquitoes every year but this one. You know its bad then. Any way we found that if a Japanese Beetle comes into direct contact with it it keels over dead. It does say it will control JB's but we weren't spraying the insect direct with it; till Tuesday when I found them eating up my canna.

Ed doesn't know the ratio to mix it cause its one of those bottles that you connect to the hose and it mixes that way. Any way he sprayed it into a watering can and filled a spray bottle. I took that on my morning walk yesterday around the gardens and would spray the JB's saying DIE suckers. and they in fact did die and fall off the leaf or bloom which ever they were on when I sprayed them. Think I might have come on to sumpthing?
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
10:51 AM

Post #7988407

[quote="cececoogan"]Mosquitoes have been terrible here as well. I just get a sense of revenge for the ones that stung me last night should have had a pretty good hangover this morning.
[/quote]

LOL! Thanks for making my day, cece!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
1:30 PM

Post #7988693

Your Welcome.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

July 23, 2010
3:22 AM

Post #7990071

AAHH the revenge of the humans,kill those buggers..Too funny hungover mosquito,tehe.Yes I dont dare walk down to the wetland,moquitos would carry me off.I had to go get the cat down there,I ran back up the hill with the cat ,he didnt like the run back to the house,too badd.Not a lot of JBs to report,amen
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

July 25, 2010
8:23 AM

Post #7995266

DH uses the Cutter's here too and it does seem to help. He does try to calculate when it's the best time to spray after a heavy rain. He also sprays first thing in the morning before the mosquitoes get up and moving. He patiently sprays the entire back of the lot, knowing how far the blood suckers will travel. Our lot backs up onto a wooded wetlands so we usually have to deal with them every year at some point.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
8:31 AM

Post #7995290

Ed went out last night just before we left for a night out and sprayed. They were hanging on the screens they were so thick on the patio, This morning not a one to be found. Now whether the Cutters actually worked THIS time or the cooler less humid weather I will TAKE it. I got a garden walk this morning and not a single bite, not even a sight of one.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

July 25, 2010
1:26 PM

Post #7995872

It's less humid here as well and breezy which always helps.
onegoodman1955
Normal, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 2, 2010
5:49 PM

Post #8014261

Agree. During the summer my favorite smelly stuff is Cutters=DEET. Doesn't matter if outside for 10 minutes or hours...I have to spray...then no problems. Unless I'm at my parents who live within a mile of the grand (sarcasm) Illinois river. Their soil is 50% sand and nothing seems to subdue the gnats and misquitos. I refuse to do yard work at my parents after Memorial Day...one hour in the yard and I look like I have I've been a food festival for the pests.

hamptonmeadow
Lakeville, MN

August 2, 2010
11:20 PM

Post #8014813

My position is why were they made to suck blod instead of fat!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 3, 2010
7:45 AM

Post #8015262

hampton - funny!
onegood... - How interesting - I would have thought that sandier soil would be more of a limiting condition to mosquitoes as opposed to the swampy clay we have here. The rains here are coming at just the right intervals to keep the skeeters breeding like crazy. The hot, humid weather coupled with the skeeters makes it miserable to work outdoors. Almost would wish for the first hard frost of fall.
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
6:31 PM

Post #8016719

Cindy, there's a song by Vienna Teng (I love her, although she's not very well known) called Drought. The lyrics begin:

Summer, move forward
And stitch me the fabric of fall
Wrap life in the brilliance of death
And humble us all

This time of year, with the dog days of summer upon us and the cicadas droning away and the mosquitoes voracious I always think of this song and think, Yes, I'm ready for fall. Fall is my favorite season, followed by spring. Both are, in my opinion, way too short.

(Huh! I found the song on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMBEaKE1voE)
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2010
7:02 PM

Post #8016811

Kayly, I just searched Vienna on Pandora - she has a great sound! When I created the station, the next song they played was "Leave Me Here" by Hem. Never heard it before, but it's gorgeous! For those not familiar with Pandora, it's a new concept in music radio where you pick a song or artist you like and Pandora presents other songs of the same genre. You give a thumbs up or down and create your own station. Awesome! It's free, but trust me . . . you'll want to upgrade! The upgrade is $36 a year. If you're sick of canned music, check it out!

Anyway - out in the yard this evening, moving a couple of plants and must have gotten about 30 bites! And you know what? They go for the backside! What's up with that?

I agree with Hampton - why can't they just suck fat! It's another cruel joke by Nature - everything that feels good is either illegal, immoral (whatever that is), or somehow "bad" for you. IN HEAVEN, THERE WILL BE CHOCOLATE AND PLANTS THAT NEED NO MAINTENANCE!! Maybe . . .
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 3, 2010
7:07 PM

Post #8016825

Oooooh, Kayley - next song was "Do What You Have To Do" by Sarah McLachlan! Beautiful! Check that one out, too . . .

Sorry, friends . . . this was totally not about gardening!

But, it is about art, which is part of gardening, right? : )

Peace 'n' love, Sherri
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
8:10 PM

Post #8016964

Sherri, I'm a big Pandora fan. I have it on my phone, as well, so I can listen on the go. I'll check out both songs!

EDIT: It's a lovely song! Sherri, if you like Hem I bet you'll like Nickel Creek. Have you heard of them?

Okay, okay...back to gardening and the stupid mosquitoes that keep us from it. :P

This message was edited Aug 3, 2010 9:15 PM
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 4, 2010
8:56 AM

Post #8017793

I have Rhapsody - comes with my Comcast service. Problem is that I never sit still long enough to "listen" to music. Normally I'm working outside of the home (but haven't for the past couple of years) so I never really got into the habit of listening to music. My old Mercury didn't come with a CD player and haven't found a "worthy" enough radio station to play in the car so I just listen to the news. No Ipod here.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 12, 2010
6:33 AM

Post #8035184

Between the mosquitoes and the heat/humidity, I've stayed indoors this week and have resorted to cleaning kitchen cabinets. In-laws coming to town at the end of the month so of course I'm being OCD.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 12, 2010
8:41 AM

Post #8035432

Cindy, I totally understand the OCD cleaning thing when company's coming! It seems to have lost its strength though as I age - I keep my house reasonably clean and if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for my guests! (Although I do give a few extra swipes for company!)

I've been staying in the last couple of weeks, too, for the same reasons - heat, humidity, mosquitoes - and now the yellow jackets are coming out! It feels like a jungle out there!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 12, 2010
8:46 AM

Post #8035440

i ditto that. I go out before the sun comes up over the trees and water all my containers so they're not drooping before noon and back inside. Between mosquitoes making breakfast lunch and dinner out of me, I hate seeing what the hundreds of JB's have been doing to the hardy hibiscus and the roses, and the numidity is unbearable this year.

Am I really getting older?????
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 12, 2010
8:50 AM

Post #8035452

Yeah, we all are - but, it's a good thing! Things seem to roll off your shoulders more instead of bugging you. I think as you age you realize a lot of those things are just not important!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 12, 2010
12:43 PM

Post #8035824

I did hear a rumor that it's supposed to be waaay cooler next week. My brother mentioned the 70's. Could it be???
Yes, I probably shouldn't kill myself cleaning kitchen cabinets but then it's done for the fall and the big T-day dinner. And, my MIL can be snarky. Oops - did I say that?
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 12, 2010
2:17 PM

Post #8035956

LOL!! These things just kinda slip out . . . : )

Wow, in the 70's next week??? Cool!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 12, 2010
3:08 PM

Post #8036042

That is what I saw on out news for us, too 70's all week and 60's at night I can open the windows...

But first another day like today only a tad warmer tomorrow, Scattered showers and thunderstorms on Saturday and sunny 79 on Sunday. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2010
5:08 AM

Post #8037065

I think we are all singing the same song,darn heat and humidity ,Yes its killing me this year,umm cause Iam another year older...NAHH iTS just stinking HOT !!!!! We are not having much trouble with mosquitos or JBs,we did ,but the skeeters are not bad and we have a wetland ,well go down there and its another story though!!!!! Iam just doin what I gotta do water a bit,and pickin maters.Maybe a motorcycle ride over the weekend if it cools down a bit.Ive pulled a lot of flowers I ended up hating,and we had a small wind shere thing a week ago weds,blew the camper into the shed ,blew over a bunch of my tall flowers really tore some stuff up.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 13, 2010
9:21 AM

Post #8037534

Yikes - looks like the WI folks are getting dumped on again today. I do hope there's some rain left though in those clouds by the time they get here. Everything's been breaking up and no rain for us. The sky has been so blue this week that you'd think it would be cooler than it is.
hugger - Sorry to hear about the wind thing. Scarey.
The skeeters here have moved down into the lower garden this week to be closer to the wetlands and to stay cooler. I did have to make a very quick trip down there yesterday to the compost pile. Would love to sift through the darned thing now that there's compost but I know the mosquitoes would drive me crazy. I just plan a day down there next week and spray myself down with Off.
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2010
11:36 AM

Post #8037772

You know what's really getting me this year? Aside from the heat/humidity/mosquito problem, I've got WEEDS from HELL. They're huge, and they spring up overnight, it seems. I was gone on business for 4 days and when I returned my yard looked like something you'd expect to see outside a haunted house. Now, granted, I haven't been out weeding in a while, but it wasn't quite THAT bad when I left, I swear.

Anyone else having a banner year for weeds? I just can't keep up. My mom's garden is the same--overrun--so I know it can't be just me. I wish I had more energy and a better ability to deal with the heat and bugs so I could get my arse outside and fix this mess. Maybe next week...
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2010
12:13 PM

Post #8037816

My yard's actually been OK weedwise, but I think it's because I promised myself to not till the soil and disturb it as little as possible when planting something. You know what? That REALLY WORKS!

But . . . my neighbor has - instead of lawn - a large backyard sized weed patch and I am not kidding - they're about 5 to 6 feet high. I did have to do a bit more weeding where our property joins his. He's actually a nice guy - very quirky in that every year, he has a new animal species to save. For instance, last year it was ducks. Before that, I think it was rabbits. This year it's cats. He gathers all the strays and goes and buys them from pet shops to save them. Anyway, we could easily call him out about the weeds because of the muni code, but . . . nah! : )
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 13, 2010
2:45 PM

Post #8038080

Just normal weeds here after the MAJOR weed-pulling in the spring. Last summer I had added compost (really decomposed leaves, etc that never get "hot") and dug up about 2/3 of my lower garden. This past spring I had such a carpet of weeds that it was solid green. Took a week to pull them all. I normally don't do a lot of cultivating unless the soil gets crusty (which it does without mulch) or I'm planting. Normally my biggest weed problem is the cottonwoods that sprout from all of those floating seeds. Had a bumper crop this year and enough rain to get them sprouted very quickly.
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2010
5:07 PM

Post #8038303

I don't till. Never have. But this yard was so overrun with weeds when I bought the place that I guess I've never been able to eradicate them. My mom, however, has never had a weedy yard, and this year it's completely insane with weeds.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2010
5:30 PM

Post #8038339

Oh, Kayly, that must be so hard to deal with! Maybe if you just vigilantly pull weeds for a couple of years and try not to even step on the soil too much, they'll lessen. How long have you had the property?
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2010
5:36 PM

Post #8038347

Just found this thread. The mosquitoes have been unbelievable. If I am outdoors more than 15 seconds they descend. I've never gotten so many bites. If if I wear full length pants, a long sleeved shirt and a hat and spray bug stuff on my face, they wedge between my hat and bite under my hairline.

As for weeds, as vigilant as I have been, they are everywhere. Weeds that were a minor nuisance in past years are going to seed faster because it will be dry, and then it becomes rainy and they throw the seed around. I'm like Karly's Mom. I never had a weedy yard - till now.

Donna

KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2010
7:49 PM

Post #8038599

Sherri, I've had it for going on 2 years in September. But that's not enough time to eliminate this problem. And I have to admit, I get so frustrated that I do let the weeds get out of hand...and, of course, that only compounds the problem. The reality of it is that it's too much for me to do alone...and no one else in my household gardens or cares about the yard at all. I do everything, from mowing to creating new beds (well, okay, I got my husband to help with prepping part of one bed this year, but after 20 minutes he was done) to planting to weeding...it's all me. *sigh*

And Donna, although I feel your pain...I am at least comforted to know I'm not alone.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 13, 2010
8:53 PM

Post #8038707

Kayly, believe me, it will get better. 19 years ago, when we bought this place, it was a jungle. I was so naive, I thought I could pull for one season and it would be fine. Then, I got in the same place as you - so frustrated, I gave up and weeds sort of took over.

Then, 10 years ago, I got the gardening itch and went at the weeds, dug beds and over time it got manageable. I KNOW how frustrating it is, but you have some gorgeous plants and beds! Don't give up hope, Kayly - enjoy those beauties, even among the weeds, because nature is not perfect and we, being part of nature, are not perfect either. But, we are imperfectly WONDERFUL!! : )
motts1
south central, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 13, 2010
9:43 PM

Post #8038752

Just had a thought..does happen you know!! After the nice weather break..how about cutting off the top seed head of the weeds..at least a start for next season and no new seeds. Then pull when time and energy appear. I have tried to catch up...not a lot of change seen..so will try that myself.
Mosquitoes are vicious..I need to make some effort to keep them away (I do have that mosquito shirt..just so warm.

For JB...very few this year. A few years ago (and for about 3 seasons) I trapped probably hundred of thousands. They were eating everything and started across the street on favorite plants (theirs) that the city wasn't controlling,. Unless you have time to keep the traps empty (I had 4 going) wouldn't recommend it. I also applied nematodes to the salad bar across the road..haven't had such a major problem since, I certainly hope that that continues!!
But, I have to stress..I was fed up..I had the time..and I found a safe way to dispatch )empty the traps into bags and put in large coffee can to set on blacktop in the sun. To use hot water to drown them would be high risk of burning myself (klutz).
Lots of water and mud at the sorting/bagging/tagging at daylily tent..fun..they also had snacks (chocolate!!!!!!!)
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 14, 2010
7:05 AM

Post #8039083

Karly, you are not alone. And you are fighting the noble gardener fight. My problem is being encouraged, no asked to plant more and more by a spouse who then says why did you did this and doesn't chip in. No weeding, pruning, and very little digging. I have 23 roses because of spousal intervention. I love them, but wow!

On the other hand, I looked out my window this morning to watch a hummingbird move from nikkis to roses to sweet peas to glads to verbena to garden balsam to nasturtiums, sipping away. I have a trio of them. That's when it's all worthwhile.

Hundreds of thousands Marcia - wow. For me thousands, and in my second milky spore year, it's down to hundreds.

I hope that all of you don't mind my popping in here. I forget that upper Midwest does mean me. I had thought it was further north into Michigan. But I do recognize some very nice people from other threads.

Donna
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 14, 2010
7:23 AM

Post #8039111

I had some JB this year but they were less than other years. Plus they came late to the party. While I do have 6 roses in my one half-sun bed, they now tend to gravitate to the porcelain berry vine (which has never given my berries btw). They're not active until the afternoon when the sun shines on that bed so I think my shade is somewhat of a deterrent. I don't have large open fields or spaces around me - mostly wooded.
Donna - I got confused at first as to how the regions were divided up here since I thought I'd be more with the OH area.
You have sweet peas this time of year?
Kayly - I agree with Sherri - the longer an area is gardened, the fewer the weeds. Again, I'm not as exposed to open fields of floating seed but I usually don't have to spend tons of time pulling weeds. I'm the only gardener here as well and then I'm helping out DS and DD with their gardens as well. Since I'm not currently working, I'm also in charge of the fall leaf removal as well. Now that's my biggest pain. At least DH does the mowing. I only mow with a reel mower and he's never happy with the result so that prompts him to get out the gas mower.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 14, 2010
8:08 AM

Post #8039173

Hi Cindy,

Yes, I have sweet peas. I start them by soaking them overnight and putting them into the ground at the end of March. I actually mark my calendar so I don't forget. I put them at the base of my allegheny serviceberry, and later add morning glories. I tend to forget about them until I pass the tree and POP! there they are! I grow sweet pea mammoth mix - they are more heat tolerant, but have larger flowers than the heirloom types.

I put them at the base of my trellis too but competing against the rose is tough for them. Scarlet runner beans, on the other hand, can go in later and are much better competitors. Those are blooming too.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 14, 2010
10:43 AM

Post #8039395

Donna - I'm impressed - sweet peas after all of the heat we've had? I tried them once in early spring but I think I put them out too early and in too much shade. I haven't tried again because I thought they were cool season only. Do your's get full sun?

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 14, 2010
10:53 AM

Post #8039420

I'll share my JB's with whoever would like some:) Its fighting a losing battle for no matter what I do the adjoining yards don't do anything and soooooo, needless to say they hatch over there then eat over hear. :(
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 14, 2010
12:11 PM

Post #8039529

Donna, you saw a hummer? THREE of them?? Oh, you're so lucky! And, you're not too far north of me. I thought they just didn't come up this far north. I've put out all sorts of red flowers (that's what they're supposed to like) and have never seen one! : (

You're right, though - when you see a new bird or a bit of wildlife, it makes it all worth it!
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 14, 2010
12:45 PM

Post #8039565

Sherriseden, yes, they actually visit almost every day. They are the blueish green ones, and they are loud enough so that you can hear the HUMMMMMM. Once they recognize your yard as a place to dine they tend to come more than once a day. In previous years I would see one or perhaps two but now it's a trio, and they sometimes hover together.
I used to see only the tiny ruby throated ones, but these are really cool because you can easily see them from 20 feet away.

They like red and purple (for the ultraviolet light spectrum) but they also like funnel shaped flowers and visit nicotiana alata.

And Cindy, the sweet peas are actually on the south side of my yard. It's a hot spot. I really think the trick is to start them very early (Iliterally start them the last day of March each year) and try to keep them from drying out too much.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 15, 2010
5:55 AM

Post #8040861

boy lots going on here ,Now Iam confused am i upper midwest ??? If not I hope I dont get thrown out !!! I pulled my sweet peas ,got tired of waiting for them to bloom,i started them in march.put some in part shade,no blooms and I do water.I ve got CRAB GRASS FROM HELL !!!!! It is bad and everywhere, ,not so much in my beds,but Ive got these other weeds that keep popping up,It looks like grape vine ,hard to pull,and another NID,But I dont till my beds anymore that does help and mulching,but the crabgrass,need to get that under control.Iam too, alone ,when it comes to weeding,and fertilizing the yard,I think thats why I got CG,Ididnt fertilize this spring,this d@# hill !!! DH mows and will help with building or handyman projects ,OOHHH he plants the garden ,OH what a mess it is !!! I end up taking care of that too arrgg. Kayley would you use weed b gone ??? i hate to admit it ,I do use it when I have to,i just used a bit of round up a few days ago.I use a piece of cardboard to sheild plants not intended to be sprayed by either product.I know you have dogs,can you block off a section at a time ,I would think it would be safe for the dogs after a few days and a rain or hosing.and let to dry agin.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 15, 2010
6:36 AM

Post #8040922

Tamara re crab grass You and me both gf. You should see the sizes of clumps I've pulled out only to take the soil from all around it up with them...grrrrrrrrrrr
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 15, 2010
6:46 AM

Post #8040949

I HATE crab grass! I take a dandelion digger and try to get it out. If you don't, it spreads and spreads and spreads and takes everything around it out!

Hugger, were the sweet peas the heat tolerant kind? The big frilled English sweet peas do NOTHING! The kind you get from Thompson & Morgan? Tried and tries and tried and got almost nothing.

Mammoth Mix is the ticket. Carried by Johnny's Selected Seeds.
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 15, 2010
7:39 PM

Post #8042223

[quote="sherriseden"]Kayly, believe me, it will get better. 19 years ago, when we bought this place, it was a jungle. I was so naive, I thought I could pull for one season and it would be fine. Then, I got in the same place as you - so frustrated, I gave up and weeds sort of took over.

Then, 10 years ago, I got the gardening itch and went at the weeds, dug beds and over time it got manageable. I KNOW how frustrating it is, but you have some gorgeous plants and beds! Don't give up hope, Kayly - enjoy those beauties, even among the weeds, because nature is not perfect and we, being part of nature, are not perfect either. But, we are imperfectly WONDERFUL!! : )[/quote]

Sherri, that was really inspirational. Thanks. You made my night. *wipes a tear*

It's been a long day for me. We were planning to go to the Venetian night (lighted boat parade) at the lake near my mom's place, and my tire decided to go flat just as we were heading out the door. Of course, we'd had dinner at my mom's, so I was 10 miles from home in the middle of nowhere with this flat tire. My husband was back home. Suffice it to say, I did get the tire situation worked out (although it would appear our Toyota is one of the few Siennas recalled for a spare tire that falls out of the bottom and--guess what?--no spare! Thank the car gods for my can of Fix-a-Flat)...but the kids and I missed the boat parade and the fireworks we always look forward to.

Then I came home, already bummed, and promptly stepped in fresh dog poop that one of my sweet fur-kids left right on the backyard walk. And, of course, I tracked it into the house unwittingly.

So, after having had One of Those Days...it was nice to hear some kind, encouraging words.

Hopefully, I'll go tackle that jungle a bit tomorrow afternoon. The weather is SO much nicer right now than it has been in weeks.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2010
5:45 AM

Post #8042682

oh Kayley ,I hate it when it rains it pours ,oh girl you deserve a break.Hey just a thought black plastic to smother some weeds ???? or news paper ???? or spray with weed b gone and then cover with newspaper,so the dogs dont touch the area ???
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 16, 2010
6:01 AM

Post #8042715

Awww - Kayly - sorry you had such a bummer of a day.
What a welcome relief in the weather. Could actually sit out on the back patio yesterday and not be carried off by the mosquitoes. Will definitely spend some time outside this week. Bought a new Hosta last weekend but it hasn't even made it into the ground yet.
Sorry to hear of all the crabgrass woes. I don't get much of it here - maybe the shade? DD has just about thrown in the towel on her vegetable garden in TN this year due to the excessive heat and the never-ending battle with Bermuda grass. Rain has been scarce and they're on a well so watering has to be kept to a minimum.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2010
6:18 AM

Post #8042747

I couldnt believe how the humidity and heat left soo abruptly yesterday afternoon,TG and this am soo beautiful outside ,but Iam off to work !!! Ive lost tomatoes to sunburn here,big ones mortgage lifters they were huge,I bet I lost 10 pounds of them.Ive never had my tomatoes suffer sun burn before.Hope this weather holds for a few days ..

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sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2010
7:16 AM

Post #8042865

Kayly, you are welcome! If you tackle a small area of your garden and get all the weeds in that area today, you'll feel a sense of accomplishment.

Hugger, I've never had my tomatoes sun burn before! That one on the left is what happens to mine . . . squirrel waits 'till it gets nice and ripe, pulls it off (are these guys farmers? How do they know about ripeness?), Takes a big chomp of it, then leaves the rest for ants and whatnot. I've actually witnessed them doing this!
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2010
7:21 AM

Post #8042886

Speaking of mosquitoes . . . check this one out. It's blurry, but maybe you can see it a bit. Never saw one like it! He was on my front window this morning - big, about an inch and a quarter, with a hind end that he sort of curled up at one point like a scorpion. He's facing to lower right and stinger is pointing to upper left. Very attractively patterned, though - sort of a gold and brown! I'm going to put this on the bug ID forum to see if anyone knows what it is!

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CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 16, 2010
7:39 AM

Post #8042914

sherri - I have heard of squirrels raiding the tomatoes. I keep waiting for it to happen here. Granted, I only have 3 tomato plants (about all I can sustain in half-day sun) but we have so many squirrels and chipmunks (as well as 9 raccoons feasting on bread and cereal next door) that I almost anticipate the taste test. What a bummer after watching them ripen.
hugger - Sun-burned tomatoes? I'm no veggie gardener but that's a first. Do you think it's the variety?
No babysitting of GD today so I get to go outside. There's even a breeze today so hopefully that will keep the mosquitoes away as well. Will finally get new Hosta in the ground as well as moving around some plants. Always this time of year when I think I "need" to move something.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 16, 2010
7:46 AM

Post #8042926

Cindy, that's me when it comes to moving! I finally realized I move too much - some plants 4 or 5 times over a couple years - never letting the plant reach its potential. So, this year I decided I would actually let things grow! (I do have one or two though, that I'm compelled to move . . .)

: )
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 17, 2010
6:28 AM

Post #8044823

Well Iam thinking sunburn because we let the tomtoes ramble,and what a mistake its a jungle. soo Iam thinking ,to pick the ripe ones you are lifting and moving the plants because the tomatoes are buried ,soo after being shaded the whole time they were growing then being exposed to the sun.My Bad...should have covered them back up with the plant..ARRGGG they were huge.And they are heirloom so they are more subceptible to anything !!!!! OOHH sherri,I think of how many plants I djust pull up because they were not fast enough !!!Now I dont do that and it is quite amazing how fast they will grow when left alone !!!!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 17, 2010
7:03 AM

Post #8044870

Oh - my body is feeling the over-exuberance of yesterday's gardening. Battled the freaking mosquitoes (and no, the breeze was not strong enough to penetrate the back of the property so had to don the Off) to sift some compost. I dreaded it but it was there, calling my name, reminding me that I really need to amend soil as I move things around. Tidied up the lower garden and then moved on to the "fun" stuff. Got the new Hosta planted but in the process, had to move and divide a fern (4 pieces). Then the challenge. Cleared a 4' x 4' section of 20-year old winter creeper and lily of the valley (which always looks dreadful by late summer) which has bugged me for several years. Tough-going try to pry all of those root systems out of the ground but managed to get most of it. I'm sure I'll get little "surprises" when root bits start growing again. Divided a huge Hosta 'Yellow Splash Rim' from another area and plopped a big chunk into the newly-cleared space. Moved the remaining chunk of Hosta which meant moving 4 Astilbes, 4 Tradescantia and 2 columbine. Pretty satisfied (at least for now) with the results. Poor Astilbe - I just divided them last year. Hopefully I can keep my hands off of them for a couple of years now. Today, some minor work in the side garden but of course it involves moving things around.
hugger - Are all of the tomatoes bad or are there some salvageable ones?
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 18, 2010
5:27 AM

Post #8047006

We are getting good ones too but we have pitched Id bet 15 pounds now,Dang rot on the bottom too ,this heat and humidity is the big culprit too.Iam sad ,I love mortgage lifters. boy you worked your butt off,Iam saving all that for september !!!!

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DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

August 18, 2010
6:50 AM

Post #8047146

I am finding that the only way to keep my tomatoes healthy (they are all in pots by the way) is to water them DAILY. I used blossum end rot spray, but it didn't work this year. So I read about uneven watering and just made sure that I could see moisture at the bottom of the pot. I'm now getting healthy tomatoes on plants that had only produced rotted one.

I also noticed that cherry tomatoes seem immune. Other than that all of mine are heirlooms. Hugger, I didn't know they were more susceptible. I should add that a friend of mine is growing all the same tomatoes in the ground, and his are 50% bigger than mine in pots.

Also, I pinched mine back a while back to make them branch and not get too tall, and then supported floppy stems with the legs of peony stakes connected to tomato tape, in addition to tomato cages, to control them. So they aren't too wild.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 18, 2010
8:51 AM

Post #8047354

Donna - Now that you mention cherry tomatoes not getting blossom end rot, I noticed here that I've never seen a cherry tomato with that condition. Also agree about pots vs ground planting. I have one 'Big Beef' in a pot, producing puny tomatoes and a 'Better Boy' in the ground producing tomatoes bigger than 'Big Beef'. And I did have blossom end rot on the 'Better Boy' and 'Amish Paste' (which is in a pot as well) but that seems to have gone away. I did plant all of them with ground egg shells, they get adequate water and I also supplemented the minerals with epsom salts and ground up Tums a couple of weeks ago along with some worm poop based fertilizer (granular) and some sea kelp. Since my tomatoes only get half day sun at best, it's hard to compare. I am doing a trial in my little hobby greenhouse, growing some cherry tomato 'Sweet Million' in big buckets. Although I am having a real problem in there with spider mites, the pick-me-up that I gave all of the tomatoes seemed to help a bit there as well. I'm debating about when to cut off the tops of all of the tomato plants. DD says I should do it now since it takes roughly 30 days for a tomato to grow and ripen.
More rearranging yesterday but didn't venture down to the mulch pile since the mosquitoes are back now that the breezes have died down. Have one more bout of rearranging to do and then done for now. Wanted to get it done now since Sept is going to be busy for me.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 18, 2010
5:43 PM

Post #8048318

Cindy, you are really working!! I'm with hugger - I'm saving the work till September. Plus, the first day it was nice in weeks was Sunday and I came down with a cold that STILL has me tired! Maybe it's the flu. Yuck!!
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 18, 2010
5:44 PM

Post #8048324

By the way, speaking of freaking mosquitoes, does anyone know why the name of this thread lost the "FREAKING" in front of the word "mosquitoes"? I thought it adequately described all of our feelings about the evil little buggers!!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 18, 2010
7:08 PM

Post #8048542

I was wondering the same thing when I saw that. Now we have words that fade in and out?
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 18, 2010
7:14 PM

Post #8048547

Perhaps some trigger-happy moderator thought "freakin'" was too close to the eff-bomb and would offend the delicate sensibilities of some DG denizens? They should know that we Upper Midwesterners are made of sterner stuff. lol
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2010
3:59 AM

Post #8048992

I guess it was too close to a potty word,LOL We all know what we are thinking about the mosquitoes anyway !!!! it stayed quite awhile tho... I dont know anyone that has ever had luck with a potted Tomato plant,I dont think you can keep them watered enough,and I would think the heat would be a culprit in producing small fruit,being in a pot it gets warmer than the ground would ???? I know this year Ive had an awfull time keeping my very large flower pots watered,actually dh pulled all my flower pots yesterday Iam done!!!! I could not keep them watered,and I watered heavy everyday ,soaked and resoaked ,having the same trouble in oak 1/2 barrels too,those are in front of a brick building soo they really cook .

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2010
5:18 AM

Post #8049082

Guess that is why my tomatoes are doing so badly. They are being pot grown and yes, my containers have been watered 3 sometimes 4 times a day...With all the humidity one would think it would evaporate that fast, how much moisture can the air hold but it sure does...
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 19, 2010
7:14 AM

Post #8049266

sherri - Sorry to hear about the cold/flu. If you have the stuffy head thing, I'd guess that the outdoor humidity would keep kleenex constantly at your side.
Sounds like my shady yard is a blessing when there's not much rain (and there hasn't been here). I'm going to water this morning since now it looks like Saturday before we get any rain.
September will have my (well, my brother) digging up the back foundation wall to fix a wall leak so I'll have plants to move out of the way. Thankfully the lower level is only about 3 ft below grade so the digging should go quickly. Then we have to move stuff out of the garage to have spray foam insulation applied to the underside of the roof. The walls have been insulated for years and we even have a natural gas heater out there but were putting off the roof until the miracle of foam insulation came along. We don't have a true basement in our tri-level so we use the garage a lot in the winter for projects. Also have a section of my "deer" fencing (actually green snow fencing) to replace as well. I've seen where a small deer has wandered in through the hole in the fence and nibbled on a few things.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2010
11:16 AM

Post #8049679

Cindy, you're ahead of me - I don't really have my fall projects outlined yet. But, they will be! The cold turned into a bronchial infection, so the doc gave me an inhaler, ZPak, and a lecture on smoking. I'm starting to listen to lecture, actually. But, anyway, I'm in for the next couple of days and will itemize, prioritize, and ponder what I want to do when it cools!

I'm trying to stay on the "No Plant Moving" wagon, so there won't be a lot of that, but I have about 10 shrubs to prune and I'm a first time pruner. All 10 went in last year, and I wanted to leave them alone, but now want to eliminate the crossed branches and some are even really dense in the middle and could use more air. After just a year!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2010
11:24 AM

Post #8049697

Sherri, I manage to get the antibiotic, inhaler and the lecture about once a year. Right now I'm on Chantix(when I remember to take it) you have to eat with it or you get sooooo sick to the tummy. So far it has done no good but has slowed me down smoking a bit.
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 19, 2010
11:26 AM

Post #8049700

Yeah, it's slowed my smoking down, too. My hubby is really pushing for both of us to quit, but oh, so hard!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2010
11:35 AM

Post #8049713

My hubby doesn't smoke so he's really pushing for me to quit. And your right It IS very hard... Realistically, I don't think it will ever happen.
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 19, 2010
2:48 PM

Post #8050092

Chantix, huh? I went that route late last fall. I did manage to quit for 2+ months and it was pretty easy. BUT the Chantix caught up with me, had to go to half doses and ended up so depressed that I wanted to smoke even more, especially late at night. The good news is that it does affect people differently and I really hope it works for you. DD also did the Chantix a couple of years ago and she's been smoke-free ever since. Good for her! But she ended up on anti-depressants and I refuse to go that route. I am smoking 25% of what I used to so that's good. I'll try again at some point with a different method. I did set up rules about when/where/quantity I do smoke. I'll just keep making the rules a little stricter over time. I am currently "not allowed" to have a cigarette and a cup of coffee at the same time and I miss that. DH quit years ago and he's been very good about not nagging. Sometimes I think he sits next to me for the second-hand smoke. :)
KaylyRed
Watertown, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 19, 2010
5:40 PM

Post #8050371

Sherri, feel better soon!

My mom smokes, even though she shouldn't. She's on heart medication to prevent blockage. I know she's cut down a lot, but she's been smoking since she was a teenager (she's in her early 60s now) and it's just sooo tough to quit. I sympathize with her. Even though I've never smoked, I know how tough habits are to break.

Good luck! *hugs*

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 20, 2010
5:16 AM

Post #8051247

At best its slowed me down...That and the new law that went in effect last month; when we go dancing I can't smoke any more lest I go outside. Right now its not so bad, come the first snow fall it may be a whole lot different...
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

August 20, 2010
5:59 AM

Post #8051320

yes Iam a smoker too DH too,We have both quit for a few years at a time ,I used welbutrin (zyban) ,and the 1st time I had my mouth wired shut !!! After upper jaw surgery tho,Iam thinking that route was good !!! I lost 17 pounds in 23 days !!! OMG I was starving ...Ive heard with chantix ,you have very vivid dreams.But Having to take an anti depressant after wouldnt want to go that way.Wellbutrin is an anti depressant,and now that Iam a lot older I am not going there either or again,too creepy.We dont smoke in the house or the car,I dont smoke while at work.Iam thinking doing the smoke diary,like 1 an hour,then2 hrs so on,now to get Ralph to do it with me ...I keep thinking 3000.00 dollars a year to smoke arrggg...what I could do with that !!!! Hey we could be each others support !!!!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

August 20, 2010
8:38 AM

Post #8051633

I thought the dreams were pretty cool. Nothing scary, just more intense. I've never had depression problems so I figured Chantix was ok for me so I was surprised by the depression. It's strange that while I do try to avoid taking aspirin or tylenol or even prescription drugs (I'm pretty healthy except for borderline BP), I still light up. Having a partner when quitting - especially someone emotionally close - sounds like it would be ideal.
Sherri - hope you're feeling better now that you've been on the meds.
Staying on topic - the mosquitoes are still here. I'm hoping DH will have time to spray this weekend. He's been working 6 days a week so hasn't had a lot of time.

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 20, 2010
10:33 AM

Post #8051817

Yeah there still here too. We're having a party outside a week from tomorrow for my birthday so Ed will have to spray everything down the morning of...Or everybody'd be in here and the music man too!!!!!!
sherriseden
Des Plaines, IL
(Zone 5b)

August 20, 2010
12:05 PM

Post #8051976

Thanks for the well wishes, ladies - I am feeling better! Cece, happy early b-day in case I forget to say it next week! I hope the spraying works and you don't have any un-invited little buggers there biting everyone. Have a wonderful party!!

cececoogan

cececoogan
Waukesha, WI
(Zone 5a)

August 20, 2010
12:07 PM

Post #8051982

Thank you sherri on both well wishes...
Koriput
Shullsburg, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 20, 2013
9:14 PM

Post #9391948

Little late for these guys but since I was curious about the mosquito title, thought I would read through it. And in case anyone searches for mosquito info.

1. They make a mosquito head net that if used over a wide brimmed hat will at lest keep them off your face. These also work great for those black gnats that come out in the spring.

2. And if you can work in one spot, might try setting up a fan "upwind" of your work area. They don't like moving air (except in North Dakota where they are stronger fliers!!).
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 21, 2013
6:50 AM

Post #9392171

Thanks for reminding me about the head netting. I hate putting mosquito repellant on my face but we live close to a wetlands so... Seems like the little buggers always try to get behind my glasses and I end up knocking my glasses askew. And then I wonder why my glasses fit so poorly.
DonnaMack
Elgin, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 21, 2013
11:51 AM

Post #9392516

I really like the wind fan idea. I have collected fand over the years and I must have close to ten. I also have electrical outlets in the garage and outside the house, so this would really work for me. Thanks!

And Cindy, I laughed at knocking your glasses askew. I do that too!
CindyMzone5
Hobart, IN

January 22, 2013
2:23 PM

Post #9393932

It is very frustrating, especially since the skeeters know to go for the glasses! We had more gnats than skeeters last summer with it being so dry and I learned that they're also a royal pain. We use a fan on the patio when we sit out there since the house blocks any breeze from the west.

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