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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 20, 2010
4:21 PM

Post #7984202

Hello to everyone and welcome:
To those new to our little chat. Plese feel free ask anything, as we try to keep it simple and fee l/we should always pass along our own knowledge. Lurkers are also welcome. Please check in if possible I would hate to loose someone in one of these switches.

we came from: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1111522/
As with all of the threads I stat I like to welcome anyone new to our little corner of Daves Garden. Please take the time to read all the past threads. Most of them have some great information in them. There are no dumb questions except for the 1 thats never asked.

remember to pilage before you burn!!!


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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
4:33 PM

Post #7984232

Very pretty Dave. I know what it is, but can't think of it because I have never liked them. I don't like them in the garden. I like pictures like that. LOL. Salvia. I even planted some scarlet this year. It just hasn't bloomed yet.

Anyway, I'm here.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 20, 2010
4:34 PM

Post #7984233

ok:
words of wisdom from the grand poohbaa.
it is too hot for warm or hot food. we have been surviving on cereal, cottage cheese fresh fruits.

packing. I am not sending plants anymore untill late august. I lost 3 boxes of close to 200 plants because the monkey's at fed-up refused to deliver the same day it went on the delivery truck so it sat until monday. yep thats right it was on the delivery truck friday morning and did not get delivered untill monday. they are all mush. One thing I did wrong during this time of year was to close the plastic bag. but its closed to keep the moisture from soaking the box.
I am just sick over this. JB have you ever had a claim with fed-ex? I filed one to see what all is involved with it. I am praying too so any help there would be apreciated. Luckily my client is understanding and just as sad as I am about the plants. they would have gone a long way to jumping her spring sales into over drive. I am trying to find out what she wants and I am going to try it.
Ok now on to the propagation house. I managed to get Scutellaria spp to root. I am also adding more "undergrowth" to the mix, short flowering perrienials. see the pic.
I will cover packaging tomorrow so pleasestay cool.
Humpty dumpty was pushed
Dave

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
5:40 PM

Post #7984347

Well folks, I guess we have to revert back to Jill's, which I can't find, so if any of you stumble across it, please let me know where it is. Thanks,
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 20, 2010
6:33 PM

Post #7984483

Jeanette: What are we looking for from Jill? sorry senior moment...
its scarlet sage. It either reseeds or is perrienial here.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 20, 2010
9:43 PM

Post #7984936

I would never be able to sell plants because all the things that can and do go wrong, all equal time and effort and money and sacrifice. It would literally make me so sick, if that happened to me one time that I could not do it.

I feel bad for you guys in that business.

JB we get fire ants here that smothered tons of my plants to death a couple of years in a row. I finally had an exterminator come two times and then I bought fire ant killer after that and I don't have the problem this year, for the first time in several years. Next year.

Jeanette I never go to bed before 11 unless I am sick or really exhausted. I feel like I work, eat, water plants and sleep if I go to bed early. No life for anyone.

Ev don't know the variety of many plants that I have. I have not found a good system to mark the plants that does not fade out or bleed out in this area.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
9:45 PM

Post #7984941

Well, since you didn't want to do anything on wrapping to send cuttings and plants thru the mail I said we would have to go find Critter's instructions.

BTW JB, I found them, thanks to Lisa, and they were pretty much how Dave does his, PLUS, she did the polymer crystals also, but she was tallking about a polymer paste. I don't know what that is.

So, doesn't matter Dave. Don't worry about it. Really sorry about your losing all of those plants Dave. That hurts.

One thing I don't remember reading in Jill's instructions was the time of the week to mail them. I think almost everyone, except maybe the newbies, now know that you only send plants out on Monday or Tuesday. No later in the week. Otherwise, they very possibly could sit in a post office over a weekend. And in exdtreme heat and cold, that could be very bad for plants. I lost 2 brugs that way. One each way. heat and cold.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 20, 2010
9:48 PM

Post #7984949

I lost 3 brugs that someone here paid 20 something dollars to overnight me. It was still such a shock in temperature variants from where she was to where I am. I feel so bad, when I think of how sweet she was and she would not let me pay. They died and I feel like crap.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
10:06 PM

Post #7984967

That is sure too bad. Was it this year? I think the temps are especially bad all over this year. There is nothing you can do about it so you might as well forget it.

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

July 20, 2010
10:35 PM

Post #7984980

Dave, I am so sorry for your shipment loss. That is so sad with all the hard work you did to get it out. I have sent several of my angels your way to help you go forward. Your have all your friends here to give you strength to go forward.

Good news Dave, the young man is coming tomorrow morning at 10am to set up my EZ clone. I will take pictures.

Today has been a long day so I am signing off. Talk to you all tomorrow.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 20, 2010
10:50 PM

Post #7984985

How is your friend who had the surgery Sharon? Good I hope. Surgery is not fun. Is she in PT?

Bet you have had a long day and tomorrow is going to be also from wht you said the other day. But, knowing you, you will get thru it.

Nite everyone.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 20, 2010
11:09 PM

Post #7984997

I want to see if you have an easier time cloning than I do. My seeds I put in it, molded fast. I usually have a good germination rate. I must need to get new cups. I used the old ones.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 21, 2010
6:23 AM

Post #7985303

Cheeze Dave, I am so sorry about the plants. I was hoping your plants would make the trip considering the heat index. I do not use Fed ex because it is so much more expensive and my customers do not want to spend a fortune on postage for a small starter plant.
I have no problem with their deliveries except when they deliver some things they get it to the wrong door if the regular man is not on, then it could sit there for days. I hate that. I also get email notices when delivery is expected. I find that Logee's and some of the bigger tropical plant stores all use USPS. As much as I hate the post office, I must say their delivery has been perfect for my shipping. I make sure I hit the pick up time at the post office and they do not sit anywhere for any length of time. I worry more about the transporting cross country by plane. Those boxes sometimes sit in the sun before they are loaded and that really cooks the heck out of them.
I use spagnum moss instead of poly up until now. That runs into money so I am going to try the poly and maybe that will cut the price for the customer too. I use more Bounty than anything. LOL I charge a packaging and shipping charge because I also use a brown paper I get from Uline as well as bubble wrap Living here in the Country we have no newspapers delivered and seldom have any around the house to use. We get our news on the internet. I always leave the top of the plants open but I had been using a plastic sleeve so they can pull them out by the sleeve and not injure the plants. I like the shoe box type boxes because they hole one or two plants perfecting and work well for me. They are also free at the USPS
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 21, 2010
10:20 AM

Post #7985831

Jb: I use a ton of bounty. my DW went ballistic when she found out I had to go buy more paper towels "It was full yeaterday" she calmed down when I told her it came out of my money. lol Have yet to hear from fed ex but I will keep you posted.
Dave

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 21, 2010
10:37 AM

Post #7985875

Please keep me posted because I need to know who to use in a backup situation if the P.O. puts the rates up as they suggest they might.

I just got another 15 rolls of Bounty in town this morning. LOL I also use it on the bottom of the bird cages. Best thing to keep birds healthy and clean. When I had 100 birds I used to buy gravel by the big lots, but my birds never get on the bottom of their cages once they have learned to perch and eat like a big bird. The baby birds have to have bounty since they learn to eat from the bottom of the cage. The adult birds all had grates on the bottom to keep them more sanitary. i miss all that mess. LOL So I should have purchased stock in the paper towel industry but I never did.

Take it easy and try not to think about those 200 plants. That is sickening.JB
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2010
12:06 PM

Post #7986094

My husband was the (rural) postmaster here for over 30 years. I never use any other method of shipping, (unless I have no choice...a decision made by companies...etc). It is not the fault of the employees at most post offices, but they are always understaffed. He never could finish his work without working "off the clock", as he was not allowed to get help. He had to figure ways to get the work done. Sometimes he would bring in help when needed, then pay them when allowed at other times that he did the work himself. It was a difficult career and most people are not up to the task. His choice for postmaster when he left was accepted, and he occassionally helps her as well, even though it would be "forbidden", as he is retired. They are constantly changing, the accounting sytems, computer programs...etc. All of that is extremely time-consuming and unfair for the employees as well as the customers. If most people really knew what they had to go through just to get the work done, they would be singing a different tune.

At home, he is hard-working as well. If not on a building project, as he is currently, he will help with the housework and do whatever is needed to be done. He likes to cook as well, and he will prepare most of the evening meals, as I like to cook plain ordinary food, he will get into complicated recipes, just for the fun of accomplishing something. He watches cooking shows as well as home building shows just to learn new aspects of what he likes to do, as I am a member of DG as well as some others in order to learn from people that are currently involved with the propagation of various plants. Even though I subscribe to several magazines, have a library of books and check out more from our public library, it is the ongoing day-to-day learning that stimulates me the the most, as well as the comraderie of the group(s) involved. I have found DG to be the best, so far for ongoing communication.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

July 21, 2010
3:01 PM

Post #7986534

I found ya ha ha ha. Cant hide from me. Sorry about the plants Dave, I know how much it takes out of you to raise them, and to have that happen,is so so so sad. My heart is sick for you. Weather here is so stupid. One day in the 80's the next in the 60's. How can anything grow? I do have a pepper on that is almost as large as the poor little bush. Think I will let it stay, just to say I did get something out of the garden this year. Anyway, later, Lee
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2010
3:26 PM

Post #7986612

evelyn, does your husband take the Family Handyman mag? I enjoy that one more than any other magazine I think. The imaginations of their readers is amazing, the things they come up with. It is truly fun to read. If he doesn't get it, subscribe to it for a birthday or something. He will enjoy it.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 21, 2010
3:37 PM

Post #7986632

Wow, Lee, you are having a challenging growing season...is it always like this for you? Maybe a greenhouse is in the works for you...huh?

Jeanette ~ Are you still having the same problem as Lee? And thanks for the suggestion regarding that magazine. He likes the Fine Woodworking that I get at the library for 50 cents, then we re-donate them. He does not subscribe to any magazines now...he just does like the accumulation and then having to either find a place for them or throw them out.

Dave ~ Yes, it is horrible about losing all those plants after going to so much trouble over them. Many nurseries do not ship at this time for that very reason, but some do. Still, I won't order anything during the summer...not because I do not trust the shipping process, but my own activities. Many times I will be called away too long, and have no automatic watering system in place and then they are "toast"...after agonizing over getting some special plants not found anywhere else, and now they are not found here, either...LOL! I must be able to prepare for these events before they happen. I am getting better at it..but still lack fine tuning.

And then Sharon and Dawn, are having the heat issues...to the extreme...

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 21, 2010
5:41 PM

Post #7986913

I do the same thing with books Evelyn. I don't buy them, I use the library almost totally because I just don't have a place to store them. The books I buy from the library sales I put in a box when I am thru reading them, for the VA hospital. Except for that magazine. I do save it. I have 2 mags that I don't give to anyone, or loan out. That is one. I think the reason I save it is because I was divorced when my daughter was very young and we didn't have much money. Back in those days women didn't make much so I could not afford repairs, so she and I had to repair everything in the house that needed it. Whether it was a machine, car or whatever. And that magazine has so many things in it that show how to do them easier etc. than we ever did. LOL, I do laugh about it sometimes. But then cars have changed so much that there is no way I would try to work on a car now with all the computers etc. in them. Too bad I didn't have them then.

But, you might take a look, our library has those in it too I think. Not sure. The out of date mags are there to take. Like you said.

No, our weather has settled down now to almost an even middle 80s high and mid 40s lows. That is the biggest problem. We really need the nighttime temps in the 50s for the tomatoes to set.

LOL, guess I spoke too soon. The weather lady just said it is going to be in the mid 90s and lows were going to be as high as some nights in the 60s!!! starting tomorrow. Wow, maybe we will get some tomatoes to set. But then she is talking about the city that is 100 miles south of us too. Soooooooooo, They really don't come too close to us very often in their reporting. It will be less than those tho.

It is hard going any place if you are tied down with yards and animals isn't it Evelyn? My sister has a watering system but it doesn't work all the time. Half the time when I go over there when they are gone, a line has broken and the water is pouring out.

Have to tell you something that I thought was so funny. When I was in Seattle I had a watering system and had it set to go off on the shrubs and lawn early in the morning. One morning I was drinking my coffee about 5:30, and hear this terrible racket going on out front. Yelling and screaming. I jumped up and ran out there, and there was a man jumping around in the middle of the yard with the sprinklers hitting him from all directions. Apparently a new paper delivery man and they didn't let us know. He didn't come at the same time as the regular person and got there just in time for them to go off full force.

It would not have been funny if it had hurt him. But every time I remember his arms and legs jumping and flailing around I have to laugh. But, even tho I was home all the time, my yards have never looked as nice as the time I had the regular watering. Same time every other day I think it was.

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 21, 2010
7:05 PM

Post #7987093

lol that sounds like something that happened to me when I was a kid. Today it was only 98, yippie.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 22, 2010
9:39 AM

Post #7988244

Morning evereyone:
I am sold on usps now. I have never had an issue with the postal service. my broinlaw retired from the airforce 25 years (he is my age) he has a lot of time to work if he chooses. he was a master sargent and in charge of rules and regs as well as paperwork for the entire group (unit, what ever) he got on with the postal service and did not manage to keep up. his superviser wrote him up for not answering his cell phone when he called. they have a rule about no cell phones to use during deliver. talk about government intellagence...well now he just kicks around and visits family. helps Kims dad with repairs on his homes.
Funny watering story. I do agree burst watering systems are a worry. I hope to switch to the new plastic tubing the plumbers are using. it will expand but not break. I forget the name but its great stuff.
As far as getting tomatoes to set. pollen becomes sterile above 90 degrees. so when you get the warmer morning the hot days will really do a number on the blooms. yes I am the bearer of great news. Have you seen tomatoes set in this situation?
I am thinking of planting new tomatoes for the fall. anyone have an idea when I should start them?
Dave
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 22, 2010
3:01 PM

Post #7988876

Dave ~ Some people start their second crop of tomatoes from suckers from the plants they have growing. Maybe to start those as well as seeds now and see what happens. Since I still have so many I never planted out, due to an excess of seed-starting, I already have my re-inforcements. I pulled up the peas now, as they finally stop producing, but the carrots in there are not quite ready. They may not be fit for consumption in this hot weather, but I shall at least let them get up to size and see what happens. I might put some tomatoes in there now.It is almost time to sow new seeds of carrots for the winter, as they will winter over well. I am not quite ready to do that yet. I want to start my broccoli now, both in the ground and in containers...and see which is best, since I have no experience with it. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know how you do it. I will go over to the veggie forums as well on this. I have never started tomatoes this time of year before...have you Dave?

Jeanette ~ Lets play in the sprinklers! Heh, heh...Our house is small as well, and I need to get rid of quite a few books and magazines. I used to sell them on ebay, and then I just got out of the habit. Now I have too many and will have to donate most of them to our library if I don't trade them for plants or something else. I really want to concentrate on growing things and find it too time-consuming to try and sell on ebay too. Does anyone here do both? I am glad that your weather is in a nice holding pattern, as mine is now as well. In the 80's every day, though sometimes hotter, especially at this time of the day between 2 and 4.

JB ~ How are you doing today? How many birds do you have now? I have a friend who used to have birds for years. She finally got rid of them due to their incessant noise and trouble. She has dogs and cats as well, but they are easier. I used to have fish, many years ago. It got out of hand with so many tanks and cleaning...etc. They finally had to go as well. We have little room in our house here. Our cat stays outside but during the winter she stays in the basement at night. Our dog (black lab, Mutley) has been dead now for a number of years, as well as other animals...

Lee ~ How is your weather today?

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 22, 2010
6:40 PM

Post #7989362

Hi Evelyn:
I know Jb does as well as myself. ebay can be a great outlet if you have the right product and are willing to deal with some off the wall requests. I know I will start listing again in late august into october as I have hosta's still to move. its the wrong time to ship them. I have too much invested in them to loose them because I was in a hurry.
is the pic butterfly weed or wallflower?
A bit of bad news on my front. it seems the "comitee" decided to take down the trees and volunteer shrubs growing outside out back wall. it blocks the trafic noise from a main road. well now I have a very hot and full sun back yard. It has changed the dynamic of the back yard extrealy. now its so noisy and hot out there. I am considering putting shade cloth over the whole nursery during the growing season. I know Kim will scream when I anounce it. well I could plant a sycamore of size and get shade really quick.
Kim wants to plant Juniperous 'skyrocket' or something like it. I am trying to get something else as the spider mites are a really bad thing to have to deal with. I hate the little buggers
Have a great evening
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
7:02 PM

Post #7989440

Dave, that was too bad about your bil. I would think he would be a real credit to the p.o. Maybe he should have gotten on with the main office? But, who wants to work in those cities where they locate them?

Were you thinking of PEX or something, Dave?

Thanks Dave. So, now our temps are finally getting into the 90s this weekend so that is going to kill the blossoms I have on!! You are a real good bearer of bad news aren't you?

I don't think we can tell you when to start them. We don't know anything about your area. Do you have seeds, or would you like me to send some? I have several different kinds. Would love to have you grow some out and let me know how you like them. Or did you want to grow some to sell? I don't have that many seeds.

Also Dave, I think evelyn has a good idea. Good to compare.

evelyn, that looks like an asclepia (butterfly plant). Pretty.

Broccoli does not like heat evelyn so it still might be a little early. However, will it have time to grow where you are? Main thing with it is not let it bolt. Also, when you can, cut out the head to use and leave the side shoots. They will produce a lot of good meals.

I take my books to the VA hospital Evelyn. I don't know if they want magazines. But, they seemed to be pleased to get the books. I do that because the library sells them for anywhere from a dime to a $ for the hard covers and when/if I pay $20+ for a book I do not want them to sell them for that. Rather give to the VA. My house isn't small, I just don't have any storage. Also, I am too old to start gathering STUFF. LOL Should say MORE stuff.

I do not make a habit of ebay, but I just purchased a phone system a few minutes ago on there. It is a new one with multiple cordless handsets. Hope I like it. Panasonic. I know you meant plants, but no, I would not do that, period.

Have a good evening everyone.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
7:06 PM

Post #7989456

LOL, think we crossposted Dave. I would like to know why when I crosspost with someone, is my post always the last one.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 22, 2010
7:38 PM

Post #7989539

I would be in mourning over those trees and shrubs being removed. Your yard will need some shade quickly or the plants will go into shock from the drastic change, I imagine.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 22, 2010
7:46 PM

Post #7989554

Doesn't that really upset you when they do that? They do not talk to the property owners at all.

A couple of weeks ago a lot of the natural plants started turning brown and then black. I started paying more attention, and the railroad which brings an engine and 6 cars up here 5 or 6 times a year sprayed 10 or 15 feet out all along the tracks.

Also, the highway department uses a whacker and they come along the highway and cut up (shred) the vegetation along the right of way for the highway. There will be long strips of shrubs hanging. Just makes you sick. I called one time and told the guy off. The office that supervises them. Their county is a desert type of terrain where ours is all green with lots of native plants. I told him they were just jealous of our nice greenery so they had to ruin it.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 23, 2010
6:08 AM

Post #7990322

Well, yesterday the weather made a drastic change. The temperature was 89 instead of 90. Signs of Winter I think. I am completely beat today. My dear dog, Barney, decided to get sick again yesterday and he had me up all night, in fact I took him our on the deck and I laid on the lounge and I just left him poop his little heart out. I got tired about 4 a.m. running in and out for him to do two or three drops, so I did my own thing. LOL That was really neat. I have not slept outside for years. Actually did not sleep but I laid there and looked at the stars. Very relaxing.
I spent hours yesterday on the mower. The crab grass survived and that is all that is growing but it is really growing. I tried counting the trees that have damage in the baby field and I stopped at 50. The kids took pictures and the four professionals at Rutgers all gave four different answers. That is really frustrating. Tomorrow in the 101 deg. heat we are to have they are driving about an hour and a half south to a christmas tree seminar and taking one of the sick babies with them hoping someone will be able to
give them a definite cause. These seminars are really helpful because they are held on tree farms and it is really a hands on class. My SIL also gets credits towards his pesticide license. Not sure what that means but it is like continuing ed I think.
Hopefully it will pay off in the correct information so we can help our babies before they all die. It is a really sickening sight to see all the time and money getting brown. I hope they have crop insurance but I doubt it. I think they just take a loss on their taxes.
Must go and call the vet to see if I am medicating this dog properly. Hugs. Jb
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 23, 2010
7:31 AM

Post #7990533

Mornining all:
JB your poor barney I feel for him. It is neat to get out and see nature in different settings. I guess my favorite was watching a meteor shower on the beach in sw florida. very relaxing. Yes the credits are continueing ed. as long as he get so many years he does not have to retest. sorry about your losses.
Not much else to say just have a great weekend its a grand baby weekend. we were suposed to go last weekend but had something come up last moment.
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
7:47 AM

Post #7990577

JB, so sorry about Barney and your trees in that order. Barney can let you know how he feels, but the trees can't I guess.

Why doesn't your sil volunteer his tree farm for the seminars. He's probably thought of that. If they did that he could probably get a lot of good credits.

Sure hope the vet can help Barney. Sounds like whatever meds you are giving him are giving him he runs.


evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2010
10:35 AM

Post #7990988

JB ~ So sorry for Barney's illness and the tree farm. Hopefully they will find a cure for those trees. I hope that Barney is better today. Does the heat affect him? Did he eat anything unusual yesterday? A different dog food? I hope that your weather cools off soon. It is crippling in that heat. I hope that you are staying inside in the afternoon. You must have to get up before dawn and get outside to work in order to accomplish anything, right? I slept outside last year on the front porch just for one night, when I could not sleep inside. It was very comfortable as the temp was great out there.

Dawn and Sharon ~ I hope that your weather gets a bit cooler as well. Maybe this weekend?

Dave ~ Enjoy your grandkids now, as when they become teenagers they won't have so much time for grandparents...

Jeanette ~ In the veggie forum, they are starting broccoli now, indoors under lights, if they have a cool place. I have two light shelves, now set up in the basement for growing things in a cool environment during the heat of summer, like violas, pansies and other things that are reccomended for this time. We eat lots of broccoli all year, so I want to learn to grow more of it. I have been cutting off the sprouts, but I think it is getting near the time to pull them up. Also asparagus and artichokes will be of interest to me, as we both like those as well. I am preparing a place for the asparagus, but I think I will have to wait until spring to plant the artichokes.

When I first joined this forum, I read about everyone's adventures with cloning, and now I hear nothing at all. Is anyone working on this method of propagation? It sounds rather complicated, but interesting nevertheless. Is it just taking cuttings and propagating them in bubbling water rather than in a sterile potting mix? Something like hydroponics, but not quite?

Well, I was terribly in pain all night with fibromyalgia, but the tylenol seems to have finally brought the pain to a tolerable level now, so I will go out and make the best of the morning as there are many things for me to do. Have a great weekend, everyone!

(Yes the last picture that I showed was a butterfly weed - Asclepius tuberosa) Do you know what this one is...?

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 23, 2010
10:55 AM

Post #7991030

I hope you folks are open to a new member joing your thread.

I retired in May of this year. My main interest is gardening but did not have much time to devote to it until recently.

Two years ago I had considerable renovations done to my property and most of my plants were lost in the process.
The renovations included:
Housed completely viny sided with new gutters.
Front porch (8 by 20 ft) torn out and replaced
Back deck (10 by 25 ft0 torn out and replaced
2 car garage torn down and replaced ... They really tore up the yard on this one due to foundation requirements
New fencing (composite) for back yard
Paver brick retaining wall installed front yard

All of my veggies are in containers resting on black asphalt.

About a month ago I purchased a small fig tree (about 3 to 4 feet tall) that is in a fairly large container. I would appreciate advice from JB regarding how to overwinter it. I live in Morriville, PA which is right across the Delaware River from Trenton, NJ. I believe I live about 20 miles from JB.

Here is a hoot ... my neighbor two houses away is Jane Burger,
My first propagation attempt is with hydrangea.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
11:14 AM

Post #7991085

Yes Evelyn, looks like a hydrangea.

Evelyn, on the cloning, I think everyone was kind of doing their own thing. But along came summer and we had to tend the big plants.

I use Hydrocodone for my arthritis. I tried all the Nsaids.

WELLCOME MERRY!

Not closed to anyone here.

gotta run, but just a quick note, if your veggies are cool weather plants don't put them on the black asphalt. It would be pretty hot. Are you starting new fall veggies? Or are they tomatoes?

ttyl later
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 23, 2010
12:51 PM

Post #7991285

just cukes and squash in earth boxes. 94 degrees here ... Tomorrow the prediction is 100. I will visit my younger daughter in Maple Shade, NJ tomorrow ... she has a swimming pool.

Visited eye doctor this morning ... diagnosis ... need cateract surgery in both eyes ... they only do one eye at a time. i am suppose to receive a phone call from someone darn (CRS!) I forgot her name ... but it was a female first name they gave ... this person will schedule me for the surgery.

My 21 year o;d grandson lives with me. He is in hot water with me. I spent over an hour earlier trying to connect to the internet. The problem was the ethernet cable was completly disconnected! Now that cannot happen by itself and I would have remembered doing something like that.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2010
2:53 PM

Post #7991578

Yes, welcome, mm!

This forum is open to all interested in propagation of plants.

Jeanette ~ The plant is a peach-colored yarrow ...Achillea 'Peach', for my "Peach of a Garden", though growing elsewhere...it must have seeded...
Yes, I can no longer take the NSAIDS as well as they tear up my insides. Still, they are more effective than narcotics, for me. I had to quit the hydrocodones, since all those falls down the stairs. Actually, it may really be the combos of all that I was taking, but since I no longer take them, I feel so much better, and much to my surprise, just the acetaminophen actually does help me. I still have the others in case of emergency. I found that if I take them all the time, they became less effective, as I took them every single day. I still have pain, but I feel better, less drugged. I am actually recovering from taking Ambien as well. It has been 6 months and now I sleep almost 7 hours a night. I many times wake up extra early, but if I did not get enough sleep, I can go back to sleep, as I could not before. Now I have to figure out how to get to bed earlier so I can make better use of my days, such as in this hot weather. If I get up before dawn and start work outside once it becomes light I can get a lot more done. I think I will make more effort towards this.

mm ~ I would like to know about overwintering a fig as well, as we both like them. Also, please tell us a little about yourself and your interests in what you would like to start growing.

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leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

July 23, 2010
4:38 PM

Post #7991862

Hi to all My weather is still stupid. Last 3-4 days have been 80's one hour and 60's the next with thunder lightning and rain, then back to upper 70's. Crazy. no this year is the strangest we have had since moving here 10 years ago. Welcome Mary. Join all of us crazies and enjoy. I think you will find there is more knowledge and experience on this one little forum than others combined. JB I am so sorry for Barney. My little Barney and his brother Fred have both been diganosed with heart problems. They are now 12 years old, some days they don't do a thing but sleep. Of course, I must nap with them, but lately they sleep too much and must go it alone :) I have given up with the veggies for this year. The weather is just too unpredictable. I will probably try again next year, tho. I do think I will start the seeds in Feb, instead of March. Maybe a better beginning will help. I do have a greenhouse, one of those fiberglass ones, but no actual heat in it. Don't think it would hold up heating in the -20's. Usually, I start the seeds under lights, then as the weather gets warmer, I move the babies out to the greenhouse, and then to the beds. This year, it honestly hasn't done any good. Has anyone tried to plant hanging pots with seeds instead of plants? Wonder if it would work, that way wouldn't have to transplant babies at all. Course, would take a lot of room wouldn't it. Anyway, time to water the indoor plants, see you all later. Keep up the chatter, I really do enjoy lurking in the background :) :) lol---Lee
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
5:27 PM

Post #7991944

The eye surgery is a snap mm. I had both eyes done also.

Evelyn, wish I could take something different. It has been years since I tried all the Nsaids. There might be one out there that would work for me now.

It will be interesting to hear what JB says about the figs. They grow figs in the Seattle area. Big trees. And it is zone 8. Lotsa figs on them too. I had a friend that had one in her back yard and she said they do exceptionally well planted next to a cedar tree. For some reason the figs and cedars get along well. LOL




merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 23, 2010
8:44 PM

Post #7992289

My first name is Mary and I taught math for over 31 years in an urban setting (Trenton, NJ).

I have been visiting this thread for about two weeks and you all seem to be knowledgable master gardners that I can learn from.

I have 2 daughters and 6 grandchildren, each daughter has 2 daughters and one son.

The grandson who lives with me thinks he knows eveything!

My house is a large bungalow with 2 bedrooms, bathroom, livingroom, dining room, kitcken and pantry on 1st floor.
2nd floor has 3 bedrooms and a bathroom ... no Attic ... grandson has the entire 2nd floor to himself.

In this picture is my fig tree ... marigolds and petunias at its base. right behind it are 2 xantelope p;ants rhat I started very late from seeds. To the right of the cantelop are some cucumbers. behind these is my container of tomatoes. All the way in the back near the detached garage are 2 earth boxes containing peppers.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
8:58 PM

Post #7992298

Mary, it's a very pretty and healthy looking tree. Hope JB can help you. She will be on here probably in the morning. She works awfully hard on her place and normally goes to bed fairly early.

Now JB, don't you snap at me over that. LOL
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2010
9:15 PM

Post #7992327

Jeanette ~ Thanks, that's good to know about growing the figs under the cedar trees. They can protect them from severe weather.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 23, 2010
9:21 PM

Post #7992338

Welcome Merry. I wish I thought math was merry. I have a math phoebia. I am so fearful of it, that it is the main reason I don't push going to college. I am intelligent but that side of my brain does not get it. A college math professor, who I was friends with, told me that I was able to learn math because I was one of the most analytical people who knew, but I just needed the right teacher to let it click. I don't know how I find that? Conduct interviews for tutors.

Anyways, glad you are here and I would love to see before and after pix of your projects. I need all the propagators I can talk to, to help me figure it out.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2010
9:39 PM

Post #7992367

Dawn ~ Read the book "Outliers", and it will open your mind to many things...especially about learning about math, and various other things as well...it is a book about exceptional people and what makes them so. I have almost finished it and I was really amazed. I just checked it out of my library...http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017922 - sorry this link does not seem to work...
I think this will...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliers_(book)


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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
9:57 PM

Post #7992406

evelyn, I thought I sent this but don't see it. Must not have hit the send button.

Anyway, I did not mean "under" the cedar tree. I meant near the cedar tree. I don't know why, maybe DNA, something in the soil, or????

But, my friend said they were a pair. Like some things you plant in your vegetable garden are good to plant together.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 23, 2010
10:35 PM

Post #7992468

Jeanette ~ Thanks again for the tip. Yes, I have been experimenting with companion planting this season. Have you ever read the book, "Carrots Love Tomatoes"?

http://davesgarden.com/products/gbw/c/417/
http://motherearthnews.com/Organic-Gardening/1992-02-01/Carrots-Love-Tomatoes.aspx

This must be book review night...LOL!
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 23, 2010
10:46 PM

Post #7992482

Mary, I was in Marketplace and saw your Thunbergia Florabunda, Sky Blue. They are so pretty. I had one but just didn't have very good luck with it. It was very sparse blooming and finally sent it to Ibartoo, Linda, in SC. Also saw the blue Pea Vine is it? That doesn't sound right. Anyway, that is real pretty too. Wish they would grow up here.

Another one was the Corkscrew vine. I know you didn't have it, just talking. But, it got such thick roots when I had it but I knew it would never grow here and would eat up the house if I tried to grow it indoors. LOL
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 23, 2010
11:24 PM

Post #7992569

I want to order stuff but can't during this heat. Still must wait for another month or more. I'll have to look. I grew Thundbergia in a protected area and it was fine at my old house in another town, near here. I loved it, but it never got thick, it stayed spindly. Loved those blooms though.

I will look up that book. Will it interest me, in other people's triumphs or will I learn the trick to thinking about math and getting it?
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
6:02 AM

Post #7992795

The weather here is WICKED. It is presently 85 and it is not even 9 AM. The humidity is high. I am presently taking a short break from watering. Yesterday i planted 18 nice impatients ... I could not pass on not buying them at Lowes ... it was a flat of plugs 1" by 2" and 4" deep. I have yet to give them any water today ... they are in front of house where there is considerable shade.

I decided to slightly move the planter with the fig tree ... Those cantelope plants seem to gyrating too much towards it.

Well break time over ... I'll be back a little later.

Here is a picture of Fiery Temper which was planted around the beginning of July.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2010
7:01 AM

Post #7992891

Very pretty. it has finally turned up the heat here. Suppose to be high 80s today and 95 tomorrow with 90s all next week. So, maybe I will get some tomatoes. But, someone said that 95 degrees will sterilize the pollen in the tomato plants. Wonder if that is true? Wouldn't that be the pits? All this time with no tomatoes on the plants, and then to have the blossoms ruined?

Wonder if maybe the bees don't come out that hot? Maybe that is it. I sure haven't seen any bees for a long time. And, I do not spray. No reason to. I don't have aphid, or any of those types. Just slugs and moles & voles. Oh, and mosquitoes.

Just looked at the thermometer and it is 53 outside. Wonder how cold it got last night. Been in the 40s at night forever. That is another reason for my tomato problem. They don't set tomatoes unless nighttime temps are mid 50s. Oh well, another year with beautiful plants and no fruit.

Well big doings in town today and tomorrow. Will go in for their pancake breakfast this morning. But not a whole lot that interests me. Bob likes the snowmobile races tomorrow. They see who can get the machines across the river. It is a pretty wide river, so if they even get them across I think they are pretty good. But then to be timed too. Lol, guess they have fun at it.

merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
9:20 AM

Post #7993102

92 degrees now. Completed outdoor cores. Head was soaked by the time I finished. I picked all the ripe tomatoes ... over 90! I have 4 tomatoe plants ... one is a plum ... harvested over 70 plums today. Guess what I will be doing tomorrow.

I am a bath person. 3 to 4 times a week, I use 2 plastic gallon size watering cans to water the beds bordering the front porch with the previous nite's bath water. while watering those beds this morning I noticed a few new oak seedlings ... last year we had a bumper crop of acorns. For the past two fall seasons I have been shredding all my leaves and heavy mulching the flower beds with the shredded leaves. Difficult to eliminate all the acorns. Oak seedlings were popping up everywhere ... middle of lawns ... planters ... etc. My grandson attributed the bumper crop to all the rain we had last summer. Yesterday while pulling out weeds where my granson is suppose to pour cement into molds for stepping stones I noticed that the soil was extremely dry. My front lawn is very green because it has not been mowed for about 2 months. I gave grandson (Sean) directions to mow the front and discard the clippings (some of the lawn has weeds that have formed seeds).

I am wondering if JB's fir tree problem is a result of poor ground moisture ... last year the ground was never this dry. Here is a picture of a Japanese Red Leaf Maple that we salvage and transplanted during the renovations 2 years ago. I have been watering it faithfully 2 to 3 times a week. Last Saturday we planted 2 nice size (3 gallon container size) hydrangeas that have been receiving considerable water each day. Yesterday, I noticed the leaves on one of them wilting. I immediately gave it another good watering ... within an hour the leaves were nice and firm.

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
9:42 AM

Post #7993146

OH MY GOD it is hot! O.K. I promise never to complain about the snow again. Well, maybe not a real promise, for today it sounds like a perfect thing to say. I fed the cats and took the garbage to the barn, watered the south deck but that is all.
Barney is still sick and I am waiting for the vet to call to see if I must bring him in. I told her I needed to start a different medication on him because the diarrhea med is not going to do it, but what the H do I know...Well, Barney got a shot and some IV fluids and $83 later I brought him home. We got home and he had bloody mucus coming out one end and fluids out the other. I am just about crazy. I just finished cleaning up the floors and called the vet, since she was too busy to come in to see hiim, the technician did everything., but she just called me and we talked. She is really a very dear friend of the family and I have known her for 25 years but she makes me so angry at times when she does not treat him with things that make him better. Now it is my fault he is vomiting because I gave him the metronitizol. @#$%^&^%$@#$6 Oh my I am tired, hot and
angry. I want my dog to be well but at 14 I guess he is lucky to be alive. I am going to put him down if he persists on being ill. I can not physically take care of him and clean up after him constantly. Grumble Grumble. Sorry, this of course is our venting forum also.

Hello MARY, WELCOME, I am really a nice person, no matter what Jen says. Actually we love each other but we take shots at each other when we can. In fact, we are on the Administration's "Hit" list because they think we are serious. LOL Truth is, I am so sorry the entire USA stands between us because I could use her help today, big time. That what friends are for isn't it. Help clean up Vomit and Poopy. Yeah!!!!!

I noticed you had green grass in PA...wow, what a nice sight. It is pretty grass too. We have brown grass and spots of pretty green crab grass here and there. Looks awful.

I think I told you about our baby trees turning brown, etc. Well, My kids went to the Christmas Tree Seminar today in this heat and my daughter just called and said they found a dozen or more people who are having the same thing happening to their baby trees. These trees are anywhere from 2 years to 3 1/2 years old and some a bit older that are in the baby field and being affected. They were told after taking a tree with them that it was the intense sunshine and lack of humidity. I thought we had very humid weather but I guess it was not enough to keep the trees moist where they needed it. We had a lot of rain and snow but this past month with all this very hot sunshine directly on them for so many hours a day has just started to take its toll. The older trees in the big field are all o.k. but they are well established and some are 9 and 10 years old.

Must go try and get this dog to take a nap. He is fighting the shot he got to settle hiim down so I am going to sit down and relax beside him and see if I can get him to sleep.

By the Way, I am far from a master gardner. Just an old lady who loves tropical plants as well as all other living growing things. Hugs to all. JB
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
10:31 AM

Post #7993264

JB ... we want fig tree info PLEASE!

I understand how you feel about Barney. I had a toy poodle that I was very attached to. When she got up in age she lost control of bowel movements ... meds helped for awhile ... I had difficulty in holding back tears when phoning the vet about her. Finally, my younger daughter realizing how distraught suggested that she pick up "Sunshine" and take her to the vet to be put down. That is what we did. It took awhile for me to get over the lost.

Darn it is almost 1:30 pm and I still have things to tend to bfore leaving to visit my daughter, Lisa, who lives in Maple Shade, NJ.

JB, have you ever been to the "Christmas Tree Shop" in Cherry Hill, NJ?

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 24, 2010
1:21 PM

Post #7993570

Golly Merry I no nothing about fig trees. Did you look it up in the information section of DG?
I usually Google a plant when I want more info and there are great articles from different Universities, etc. about them as well as some good info from other people who have grown them. Sorry I can not help you on that one. It is hotter than you know where in NJ today. Where is Morrisville, PA...I was raised in Lancaster County. I am an old Amish Country kid.
My son practices Criminal Law in Lancaster, PA. He does alot of Federal Criminal Stuff.

No I have never been to the Christmas Tree Shop in Cherry Hill but I have heard about it.
We have our own little Christmas shop starting the day after Thanksgiving. In fact I start to make things, floral of course, for our starting in October. by the time Christmas comes I am sick of it all. LOL

I must go, I spent alot of time doing nothing today except caring for the darn dog. I am so sorry you had to put yours down. I have had to do that several times and I cry everytime.
I am even worse when it comes to horses. I am an old softy, no matter what Jenette tells you.. Have fun in NJ...JB
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2010
4:13 PM

Post #7993891

Hi, Mary! I am taking a break now as well, since it is heating up here as well. Yesterday it was 89°, and today will probably not be much cooler. I have been watering since about 7:00 AM, since I got outside a bit late today. Still, I did accomplish quite a bit. The color bowls that I had in the front of the house in place of a window box, were a bit fried so I took them down and replaced a couple of plants and gave them a good watering. I think I will keep them in the nursery today and give them a good shot of kelp and let them cool off a bit, since they usually sit in the hot morning sun until the sun goes over the house. Your lawn is beautiful...we have no lawn - we just mow the weeds, though DH put a bit of seed in the back, just to try it, but I do not think he kept it watered enough, but who knows? I have not been paying so much attention to it, as we are working on separate projects for the moment, though we will stop and help the other if needed... Funny thing, Mary, our 20 year old cat is named "Sunshine". (And my sister's name is Mary...there is a long story about that, but another time...) We thought last year that she (The cat, not my sister!) would have to be put down as she had some kind of injury which leaded to an infection. Our vet operated and then gave her a time-release antibiotic and she is good as new...well, not really new, but for a 20 year old animal, she does pretty well. She was previously all matted up and looked terrible! Our dog has been gone for some time now (Black lab - Mutley), which was originally Steve's sister's dog, but he just followed Steve everywhere, and then eventually he just took him home, as I suppose it was "love at first sight". When he used to work at the old office (rural P.O.), Mutley would stay under the desk all day.

JB ~ So sorry for all that horrid mess that your poor Barney is doing...you think Jeanette would come and bring her Shark and clean your floors?? That would be nice, huh? I am sure that the heat just makes everything worse. You must feel like going in and taking a cool shower, but I suppose you need to keep an eye on Barney... So, did they give your daughter a good idea of what to do with the trees? Shade them somehow? Maybe in the future keep them shaded before planting out and wait until they get bigger, if that is not practical and keep them in cans?? Can they be saved now, or are they too far gone??

Well, I must go now, lunchtime over...have fun, everyone...(if you can...) I know JB is not having fun today.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2010
4:33 PM

Post #7993932

JB is right Mary, your lawn is beautiful. Would be even prettier if your grandson would cut it without waiting 2 months. I know, you don't need someone from Washington state haranguing you about cutting your lawn. Especially when I don't have one. LOL, All of mine is natural. I live in a forest with mountains. I have a perennial bed, a hoophouse where I grow tomatoes and cucumbers, and all the rest are on the decks in containers.

If JB and I didn't luv each other I would hate her for misspelling my name every time she talks about me. I know she does it on purpose so I haven't given her the satisfaction of saying anything about it.

Oh, hi there JB darlin' when did you sneak in?

You know JB, you should quit your b--------g (I would fill that in but you know Admin is just sitting there waiting for us to use a word on "the list" to suspend us.) about that poor little dog and having to clean up after him. Just think how bad he feels. And, knowing it makes you unhappy to clean up when he knows he isn't suppose to do that. I so hope they can help him. What is wrong with them that they can't? Why don't you call that vet at home and tell her you want some curin' done on that poor little animal.

LOL, that's the way Bob talks to his doctor. When he went in for his first appointment he asked him if he could do some curin'. Think the doctor was shocked to have someone talk to him like that. Bob told him that if he couldn't, he would go to someone who could. He really likes him.

You call that vet in the morning and make her come out and make a house call. You would if it were one of those dumb birds. And tell her to bring her meds that work with her.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2010
4:42 PM

Post #7993962

ROTFLMAO!!!! You can count on that one Evelyn. I will take my Shark over there and wrap it around her scrawny neck if she says one more nasty thing about poor Barney.

Then I might struggle with that Shark to clean her floors all right. You can count on that!!
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
5:31 PM

Post #7994073

Grrrrrr. OK I just spent some time creating a post and it did not get posted.

This was not a good day for me. I finally was ready to visit my daughter Lisa (who has a pool) around 2 PM. Within a few blocks of leaving my abode I notice a red light on the dash. Pulled over it was a light indicating break problem. Drove the car to the local Tires Plus (Approximately 1/2 mi;e from my residence) ... 4th visit since may 27th of this year. diagnosis ... break line leakage ... big job ... cannot be fix until Monday. Left car there ... they supplied me with a ride home.

The reason my front lawn is so green is because it has not been mowed in so long. Most of it is slow growing zoysia grass. When I noticed the condition of the soil being so dry I told my grandson not to mow unless I directed him to do so. He now has orders to mow ... but at the higest setting and to use the bag. He hates using the bag ... but he hates raking more.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
5:45 PM

Post #7994111

JB if you know where Trenton, NJ is you can easily find Morrisville, PA. It is directly across the Delaware River (I hope you are familiar with that river) from Trenton.

Please excuse my digressing ... but the teacher in me cannot resist telling you a little about the history of Morrisville, PA.

Morrisville is named after Robert Morris, an American statesman, signer of the Declaration of Independence and financier of the Revolutionary War. So dedicated to the fight for independence, Morris, known to be one of the wealthiest men in the country, financed Washington's army to the point of his own bankruptcy. Later Morris partitioned congress to make what is now Morrisville, capital of the United States. After some political maneuvering by Alexander Hamilton, Morrisville lost by two votes.

He and Benjamin Franklin paid a visit to Betsy Ross to commission our country’s first flag (the stars and stripes).

In 1789, President George Washington appointed Morris Secretary of the Treasury, but he declined the office and suggested Alexander Hamilton instead.

He never recovered the wealth that he enjoyed before the revolution. He died in 1806, in relative poverty, at the age of 73.



Pictured is the Elephant Ear planted about the middle of June. I should start keeping a journal of my gardening and plant endeavors. I just detest record keeping. That and lesson plans are things I do not miss in respect to teaching.

My daughter,Lisa, who teaches pre-k purchased the bulb for me to grow. She thinks her youngsters will be amazed at how large some leaves can get.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2010
6:02 PM

Post #7994136

Oh that grass is the prettiest when it fills in. Isn't that golf course grass? I am so sorry about Barney. I put my 15 year old dog Koala to sleep last Wed. and took the day off from work on Thursday because I was just too upset and knew I would not be able to fake it, since I work with the disabled, they would feed off of my vibe. It is hard to let them go, but at some point it feels cruel to watch them struggle so with a greatly diminished quality of life. Oh how we hoped we would wake up and she would be gone. That decision is a hard one to live with. We made it too late for our baby though. We had our first real hot day and her mostly blind and totally deaf, dimentia brain got her tangled in rabbit proof fencing, front leg, back leg and part of her mouth was caught and she could not figure out how to get out or even what she was caught in. This was the hardest part for us, knowing we let this happen because we did not want to let her go. Luckily she was in a shadier side of the fence but it was freaking hot that day, so????

It was 103 here I think today and a little muggy, because our swamp coolers kind of suck. It is hot and windy now. I did some watering this afternoon and some sowing in my garden last night of Celosia seeds from last year. They may not grow but it is ok since they freely sowed about 15 plants or more in the front yard. I was hoping to get some in my lasagna garden in back.

merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
6:50 PM

Post #7994266

I am seeking an efficent and economical method of placing plant markers in the garden.

The best idea I have found so far is:

I have been using plastic knives for years as plant labels. I write the name of the plant on both the handle and on the blade with a Sharpie. I then shove the knife blade into the soil. Over time, the writing on the handle may become difficult if not impossible to read; however the writing on the blade that was in the soil is still legible.

It was posted on the following site:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tips/msg031828284097.html

How do any of you presently mark outside plants?

I planted the bulbs of this last sping in a flower pot ... they were small bulbs ... no floweres last year ... but what spetacular blooms this year. Can you ID it for me please.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2010
7:02 PM

Post #7994327

I can't keep a legible label to save my life, if you find out let me know. I get all these seeds and plant them, then I have no idea what they variety is called, if I know what the heck the plant even is. I tried a lot of stuff and this year my Michael's craft store Popsicle sticks and outside paint, covered with fingernail polish, did not hold up to my watering.

Guys, where do I put my watermellon and cantelope seedlings to do best? Sun/part sun? Can they take heavy soils or do they need great drainage? Water a lot? ?????
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
7:11 PM

Post #7994361

Greetings from little rock:
I knew I had to get on or I would be forever getting caught up on things here. Welcome Mary...
I am so sorry to hear about barney, its sad to hear when a loved part of the family (and yes dogs and cats are people too) is have such a hard time.
I spotted a wierd concept for a business today. 1 800 got poop (or something like that) they will depoop your yard for you. lol talk about a crappy job. I guess the guy that cleans the truck has an even worse job???
Ok Christmas tree's, it might be a mamoth job but what about putting the row cover on the trees and running a soaker or mist nozzeles under the blankie to increase humidity?
OK my turn... "the comitee" (home owners association) decided it was time to cut down all the rogue volunteer saplings, trees, shrubs and privit on the back side of the back yard. Keep in mind the wall runs north to south is brick and faces the west. I lost all my noise buffering and even worse I lost 1/2 of my shade over the nursery. GGGRRRR I am ^&&%%$# in excess. Ok now to their side of the story. My dear wife told them they could do it because it was part of the easement of the utilities and the cities streets. but why do it in the middle of J U L Y !!!!!!... and the day I am leaving for the weekend to be with grand babies ...!!!!! It just chaps my rosey what ever...
Yes pollen on tomatoes become sterile or unviable in excessive heat mid to upper 90's.
A thought for the unheated green house I read somewhere about, I use about 10 or more gallon jugs full of water to passively heat my greenhouse. I am also planning to get heat cables to put on my bench's to help knock off the chill.
Also I am planning to use the row cover/frost blanket as a seperator to my leaves that I put over my container grown plants. I am thinking it will help clean up in the spring.
Ok heat we are consistantly hot in the summer. I remember one year we had 100 days of 100 degrees plus with no wind and not a drop of rain. and I decided to take on a part time job at a friends organic farm. he sold itty bitty veggies and fresh herbs to the local high end resturaunts.
well its my bed time.
I hope everyone gets some of the rain they are talking about here in little rock tuesday 50%
Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
7:15 PM

Post #7994374

FYI ... The "Christmas Tree Shop" only has christmas theme items when other stores do. Their focus at the present time seems to be back to school.

When I went there last Sunday I purchased packets of seeds marked 88% off. Since my granddaughter works there I had 20% taken off the remaining 12% ... which means I paid 9.6% of the original price marked on the packet.

If you live anywhere near one ... you need to check it out.

The following web site can be used to determine if there is one near you. To see there latest circular click on FLYER.

http://www.christmastreeshops.com/frames.htm

I love bargain shopping.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 24, 2010
7:18 PM

Post #7994380

Not a clue Mary, other than a lily. Looks like a Stargazer of some kind. My SG turned from their beautiful colors to dark purple. They were that color for a couple of years and then they disappeared. I don't know if the voles ate them or what.

I don't mark my plants outside. I just remember what they are.

edited dto read:

Think we all cross posted.

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
7:24 PM

Post #7994395

Marry:

http://www.growersupply.com/virota1perro.html
the alluminum ones are 50 to a box. the rolls of lables that slip over a branch hols marking best I think... I have started using a greese pencil and parts cut from the slats of mini blinds. its $8.00 for a long one at wally world. sharpie fades in time so relabeling every year is a but much for me.

http://www.growersupply.com/py4and6plla.html

I am going to buy a box of the 5 or 6" ones here but I will most likely use a lot of them. email me if anyone is wanting to get in on the case Pughbear7@hotmail.com . I would consider doing a coop but as I am a seller I am not allowed to host one and its one lousy case for peat's sake.
I guess its likle the hot dog vendor on the corner. they are $3.00 and he doesn't care if you buy it or not...someone will eventually...
anyhoo nitey night,,, yes I did say it once before but mary cross posted on me and it like the last cookie in the box...can't leave it alone...
Dave
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 24, 2010
7:25 PM

Post #7994401

Mary its in the lily family ...either star gazer or oriental. Orientals face down star gazer face up. Some have been advertised to get 6 feet plus
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 24, 2010
9:19 PM

Post #7994683

I am not having luck with lilies here except day lilies for some reason, at this point. I have in other yards but here not.
Cool label link. Thanks. I need some of those asap. I have so many giant, giant Zinnias at this moment, that I have completely lost my landscape on a marginally landscaped part of the yard. There better be some awesome blooms out of this crap. It is like a jungle or forest. Tall plants are usually something I am interested in but at the moment. I could use a change of height.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 24, 2010
9:55 PM

Post #7994748

Dawn ~ Do you have any pictures of your lasagna garden? Does it come with pasta?LOL! I have a salsa bed going with peppers, onions and cilantro. I am trying to grow tomatillos as well, though I am not sure about them. Soon I will be starting the fall veggies, I have been weeding and watering practically all day since quite early this morning. I have been soaking my starter containers in bleach and water with a little soap. I wash them up in the evening and then put a new batch in. I hope to also get all the usable pots clean soon as well, after I do these first. Fortunately, it has only been 90°, or a little over in the late afternoon. (I never thought that I would say...only 90°, but you and Sharon have such extreme heat.) I don't think I could take much of that. I would probably stay indoors all day and be really lazy! LOL! Sorry about your Koala...that is never easy.

Mary ~ Thanks for the history lesson, but can you teach us any math? My dad tried to teach me calculus, but to no avail. I did well in Algebra and Geometry but that was in high school, and have used neither since. It was just plain arithmetic that I had problems with but the calculators have made that much easier. (It really messed up my chemistry grades when we had to do gram/liter conversions...I could not figure it out at all...) Still, I do try and practice my arithmetic when I have a simple addition or subtraction to do. It was interesting to know why Asians do so well at math. When I read "Outliers", it really opened my eyes to a lot of things. Also it has inspired me to try harder at my goals and not give up so easily, even in this hot weather...I understand your situation about losing a post...it is very frustrating...it has sure happened to me several times. Then I forget what I wrote...LOL!

Jeanette ~ How are your tomatoes doing? Do you have any fruit on them yet...? I am just starting to see some now. At least it warmed up for you. I wouldn't worry too much about the fluctuation in weather...and it is something of which we have no control anyway, but still, I hope that it improves for you. Have you got that Shark yet under control? I steamed the floor last night, or was it the night before? Anyway, it is still clean. We are always coming in and out and it is a miracle if I can skip a few days, and just sweep or use the dust mop.



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avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
6:06 AM

Post #7995047

Pretty, evelyn- is that a cupid's dart? I have a few, but mine aren't that rich a blue.
Mary, nice to see a new face- I pop in and out, I'm not very talkative but am a good listener.
Hey, guys, a job opened up for a City Gardener here in greater Omaha, so I am applying. The best thing is, it is year-roun d, they have a gh and do their own propagating in the winter. I would be in Heaven (Heaven DOES have greenhouses, right). wish me luck!
JB, sorry to hear about Barney, that is the sad thing with pets, but they do bring so much joy. That is one of the better things about birds, at least the few that I've lost- they go quickly, and you hardly have time to do anything, let alone have to make decisions. So far I've only had to put one down, and even though he was never tame I cried my eyes out for 2 days.
Gotta run- church is coming, and I take my Mother every Sunday.

merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
7:18 AM

Post #7995170

Here is a thought ... would applying a Uv-Resistant Acrylic Coating to plant makers amelorate the fading of permanent markers?

http://www.acmoore.com/p-34739-uv-resistant-acrylic-coating-aerosol-clear-11-ounces.aspx

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
8:08 AM

Post #7995239

Oh wow Avainut, what a cool job that would be. When do you find out? That would really be fun. And year round! I sure do wish you good luck. That would be a dream job to have.

JB how is Barney this morning? Poor little guy, can you get him to eat some soup or something? He needs some liquids.

evelyn, my tomatoes are finally coming on. Starting. All it takes is warm weather I guess. It sure would help if I could see a bee once in a while. Nothing. But, something must be pollinating them.

I haven't used the Shark since my initial trial with it. I have used my regular sponge mop. I is so easy to use. One of these days I will try again with the Shark. Guess I could go help JB out if she weren't so darned far away. I would if
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
8:09 AM

Post #7995242

edited to delete a duplication

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
3:08 PM

Post #7996084

Barney update please. Thanks for the kind comment about my Koala.
I do have some pictures of my first lasagna, the others are not as good, for various reasons, but they are newer and have less paper in them. I am going to start adding paper and card board as the rainy season comes and hope we have one again, since we usually don't get much.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
3:14 PM

Post #7996099

This was how it started. This is more recent. Though it has had better years since the start before hollyhocks took over and slugs and gopher damage.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
3:19 PM

Post #7996108

This was after about 9 months. This was the circle area in the first picture, it is a memorial garden to my Koala's daddy, Mushi.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
3:28 PM

Post #7996121

This was Memorial Weekend.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
4:18 PM

Post #7996249

Dawn, what's the deal with a Koala? I must have missed it some how. I don't remember reading anything about one? Did you have one as a pet? That would be interesting. Tell me about it. Or, if you don't want to repeat, tell me where your post is. The date. Would love to read it.

Your lasagna bed looks good except for the straw on top. I don't think that would be a good idea since that and paper dry out too fast. I think I would cover them with soil of some kind. Straw, paper and then soil. Just my opinion. And water with the hose. I wouldn't wait for rain in the heat. I think the heat and water would make a good rotting material. Just my opinion.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 25, 2010
6:03 PM

Post #7996497

Jeanette: you are not alone ...Koala??? it reminds me of the teenage girls and squirls... squirl where where quick...lol
anyway back home and headed to bed
Have a great evening
Dave
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
7:42 PM

Post #7996766

Koala is my dog that I put down last week.
The straw and cardboard were all mixed down under that straw you see and a lot of top soil, natural soil, manure and compost is under the straw you see, but I made the bed in late summer before the rains, and I put Amonium Nitrate in it to break it down faster. As you see the picture, was how it was before my leaves fell and my grass clippings went on it that were composting all summer, which held moisture in the straw you see, then in the late Winter, I put down a skip or two of topsoil across it so that I could plant since all the cardboard was not broke down and some of the straw in the picture was not either. I poked holes in the wet cardboard and planted what you see. I agree the straw does not hold moisture and that is the problem with my present project. I did not get skips of soil, so this one has been breaking down for 3 years, I throw a bag of this and that in spots as I plant. This one has a lot of small elm sticks under it so it will take forever to break down.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
7:45 PM

Post #7996773

That is a tongue twister.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
8:00 PM

Post #7996820

Dawn, I really don't think it is a good idea to bury your dogs in your lasagna bed. Is that what you did? I know you said about the first one, but what about the one last week? I suppose if you just plant flowers etc in it it would be ok. Just somehow I couldn't do it. I guess it's your lasagna bed, your business.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 25, 2010
8:06 PM

Post #7996832

I buried Koala in a regular garden under a big tree. There is not much there at this time but Vinca Major and a sapling China Berry Tree. They live in my gardens and I love to think about them there. Now my h knows which bed I am talking about. As a bonus. Mushi garden, Koala garden and I have my daughter's chihuahua in the one with the sticks in it. Cinderella Garden. In my area if you leave your dog at the vet, they give the bodies to a compost company, I was told.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 25, 2010
9:39 PM

Post #7997091

YUCK! Thanks for letting us know that. I will bury my cat when it is her time. I am sorry that I took the others to the vet. I had no idea...
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 25, 2010
9:54 PM

Post #7997118

I think I would check with someone first before I believed that. Not sure who. I suppose your vet if you have a good relationship with him/her and would believe them. When I wanted my dog cremated the vet told me that they take all the animals at once to a company and cremate them all together. So, if they are doing that, and charging for it, why would they give them to a compost company?
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
6:27 AM

Post #7997590

Good morning:
earlier I vaugely remember someone asking about a substituute for aleave (nsaids). My doctor put me on Mobic to get me off my daily intake of 2 aleave twice a day.
I am getting a bit upset with growersupply company. I have yet to recieve my box of shade and ground cloth. I am starting to move all my veggie's into one raised bed. My dear wife is questioning my garden area. it seems that almost all the success was in the tomato bed.
I guess its good news that I only need to ship 4 plants this week. Started harvesting dl seeds, some tags hilped & and some didi not... It seems i am all thumbs today. oh well better thumbs than not at all.
everyone think Rain really hard.
oh yea someone said they wanted me to chat aboit packing plants. next post I promise.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 26, 2010
6:41 AM

Post #7997617

Dave you must be a far more patient man than I am a patient woman. Those supplies are going to cost you a lot in lost revenue if they don't come soon. I really can't believe a company taking this long to send this type of merchandise. It's ridiculous. I had a really hot day yesterday and the day before too, the two days, were hotter than it's been and most all of my plants crumpled up or withered and showed signs of heat stress. Good grief. I spend my summers trying to get the plants to survive August and sometimes Sept and Oct. I can only imagine what is to come. I need more shade cloth myself and wood to make nice frames for it that will hold up to the wind.

Evelyn my friend used to be friends with my Vet. They said they picked up all the dog's bodies in a truck, took them to the crematorium and the ashes were used by this company that is no longer in business, called Wild Phil Mulch. I don't know now, but the idea of her body just piled up and burnt, seemed less appealing to me. It may just be a personal choice issue at this point, but I feel better and don't have to pay for that chance that she was in someone Else's garden instead of home with me.

Nobody ever told me about my watermellon, cantelope seeds? I have no clue about fruits and veggies? I guess I will go on another forum to see. I want to get some more of those weed cloth pins to hold some plants down that I want to layer? Do you guys use that method often to propagate? Seems simpler and I found accidental rooted vines and plants that way, but I need to mark where they are layered or I won't know later. Too much land.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
8:47 AM

Post #7997887

We had thunderstorms last night and we hit a low of 65. It is presently 80 and quite pleasant. I took advantage of the pleasant tenperature to do some weeding in a front flower bed. The soil was fairly moist considering how dry it was on Thursday. I will post picture later.

Does anyone own/use a leaf shredder? If so I would enjoy comments and/or experiences.

i am waiting for Tires Plus to call me to tell me that my car is ready.

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 26, 2010
1:40 PM

Post #7998498

I hope you are all enjoying the 80 deg. heat today instead of the 90s and 100s. Wow, this past weekend was a killer.
I have done nothing in the garden or the greenhouse for days except water. I have new cuttings rooted in water and they need to be planted but today was chiropractor day and grocery day and the dog was better so I was off to town.
I came home from town put the groceries away and started to irritate the politicians of my area. The State is thinking of closing our racetracks and if they do the horse industry in this state will be gone. I worked in the horse industry for many years and this is a completely political move so I wrote to the Governor and send the radio station some information for their talk radio. Oh my, this will be edited it I do not stop here. Sorry Terry!
I am having a bad day, my 89 year old cousin was taken to the hospital with what they thought was her heart. I am 2 hours away from her and had not yet called her today due to shopping, etc. So, now I am waiting for my DIL to call. She went to the hospital (almost 40 min. away for her too) and will call with information when she has it. Nothing is easy.
Tomorrow the jeep goes in for service. I have an oil leak and it could be the heat just cooking it out when it cools down or I may have a stupid leak. Always something else to take my fun money away from me.
Must get back to Facebook and make some more noise about the Horse Industry. Love and Hugs. JB
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
2:22 PM

Post #7998582

JB ... may I ask why you go to a chiropractor?

What type of plants do you sell?

At 4 pm today my car was still not ready ... they are replacing all the break lines ... it has been there since Saturday afternoon.

My grandson, Sean, mowed the front lawn today.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 26, 2010
5:17 PM

Post #7998858

Dawn what about your watermelon and cantaloupe seeds? You didn't say.

Mary, my mom used a leaf shredder for years. For the compost. I know she thought it was worth it as she always made every move count. LOL

JB you and yours are certainly having a rough summer. Should say year. Your winter wasn't much better was it.

How is your cousin? Certainly happy about little Barnyard. LOL, Barney.

You better give them h--l over those horse races. I know that is big business. Big gamblin' business. :o) Some people got too much money.

Mary, how does the lawn look now? It really didn't look like he had left it that long. I suppose it depends on the type of grass.

merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
6:38 PM

Post #7999009

Jeanette, in the picture with the small japenese red leaf maple, the lawn had not been cut for about 2 months. I take a picture of front lawn tomorrow and post. This pictue is of my morning weeding endeavors. The area in front of the 2 small azeleas had lots of dead crab grass that I used round up on. I just got around to yanking it out and then planted some annuals recently purchased at Lowes ($1.50 + tax worth).

I am having my grandson (to his displeasure) pour concrete into a mold to form a stepping stone pathway. I will get on his case to do some more tomorrow... he does not work tomorrow.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 26, 2010
6:59 PM

Post #7999052

The 3 pots contain plants retrieved during my morning weeding. The front pot with the white label is a rose bush that produces clusters of petite white roses. I intend to give it to my next door neighbor when she returns from visiting her mother in Michigan.
The other square pot contains an offspring from my large japanrese red leaf maple ... and the round pot right behind the rose bush has 3 little Girard Purple Azalea. The only reason I can correctly ID the azalea is because the mother azalea that they were beneath still had its plant tag on it.

JB ... I am told that the heat wave is to resume on Wednesday ... so make sure to enjoy tomorrow.
I hope you have good luck with your vehicle. Mine did not get done today ... I was told the mechanic broke the special tool needed to do the repair ... but he has another one at home ... said car should be done around noon tomorrow.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 26, 2010
7:06 PM

Post #7999065

Lookin' good Mary. Enjoy the cooler weather.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 26, 2010
10:19 PM

Post #7999332

Nice Mary. Great that your grandson can do this stuff even if against his will. I want to make walk stones too but the concrete bags are 8000 lbs. (Like my exaggeration)?

I had asked if anyone knew what type of light Cantelope and Watermellon like and what type of soil and watering needs do they have?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 26, 2010
11:31 PM

Post #7999367

LOL, Dawn, I just stick them in the ground However, they do take heat and lotsa sun. And a long season which I do not have.
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 27, 2010
5:09 AM

Post #7999527

Re: leaf shredder- I don't have one, but I do have a LARGE vac/shredder- the kind that looks like an oversized lawnmower, more or less. I bought it when we moved to a heavily treed lot- thought I was smart to pay the extra hundred bucks or so to get the BIG one, less trips to the ol' compost pile, you know? Problem is, the stupid bag gets so heavy by the time it's half full that I can't lift it, so I can't make use of the extra capacity anyway! Stupid is as stupid does...
Job for city gardener requires a test, which I take tomorrow. Then I'm sure there will be interviews, etc. (The city does move slowly) I'm hoping to know by end of Aug., at the latest...
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
10:27 AM

Post #8000156

Cantalope - rocky ford
watermellon - black diamond

rocky ford are grown in colorado by the state pen. its a way the system allows the man to funnell money to their retirement accounts ...lol
not much happening Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
11:49 AM

Post #8000281

I learned my lesson in regards to posting on this thread …. Since I usually have a lot to say and have in the middle of the post mt post goes to never never land …. My new strategy if defense will to create my posting using a word process and the copying and pasting to the thread.

Jillann, it would be interesting to learn what the test you are to take tomorrow was like. I know that all participant of this thread are rooting for you. I hope you get the position.

My leaf blower is also a vac with bag. I also found the bag becoming very heavy. That is why I want a leaf shredder. This way I can have my grandson place the leaves in trash cans and move them to the area where I will do the shredding. I recently went to a “Cargo Freight” store for the 1st time. My daughter wanted to purchase some tools they had on special . I spotted an electric leaf shredded priced at $100. If I use a 20% off coupon then it would be $80 plus a 7% sales tax. Since my daughter has 20% 0ff coupons that are good for some time I decided to wait and check out what I could on the internet.

The price cannot be beat … but on the company’s web site I found what I really want … the prices on line are less than in the store prices but you have to pay shipping and the 20% off coupons are only good for in store purchases and not any on line purchases.

Here is the one that I plan to purchase

http://www.harborfreight.com/lawn-garden/power-tools/2-1-2-half-hp-chipper-shredder-66910.html

Mary
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
2:11 PM

Post #8000570

looks great. anyone have a suggestion for a good compost maker I can handle. I would prefer one that turns by a handle or crank of some kind. I found one from am leonard but its 250 bucks. Its renovation time arround the ponderosa. we are getting windows, siding, gutters, a new shed out back for my supplies.
ok some of you asked me to go over shipping and how I do it. what ever you do never ever put wet paper on the leaves. I failed to heed the warning I got from sheryl and it finally bit me in the big ole behind... which I have gone over. I was sent a site that covers it all
http://www.roundrobin2001.0catch.com/ship.html

I think it is the best presentation. please excuse me if I am repeating myself...we all know dave is medicated at times. ok sometimes more than others.
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 27, 2010
3:44 PM

Post #8000754

Mary, first of all, please do not wrote "Cargo Freight" on your check. It is Harbor Freight. That Chipper Shredder looks pretty good. What are you going to use it for?

Dave, the explanation of shipping plants is pretty good, but I think pretty excessive too. Oh well, better to be that than less.

I tried to send her an email about shipping plants to Canada an the UK, but my computer got an error message.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
4:32 PM

Post #8000822

Thanks Jeanette ... old age setting in here. I plan to shred leaves for mulch on flower beds ... now am also considering very small branches (under 1/2 inch diameter).

I think some of you may enjoy the following site that contains a video on how to make a compost tumbler for about $8.00.

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Tumbling-Composter

I have my car ... $540 bill ...YUCK.

I am learning so much perusing this website.

JB ... I am interested in getting some of those Easter Egg seeds. Do you possibly have any seeds for Punpkin on a Stick or Fried Egg?

Dave, what do you sell?
Mary
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
5:56 PM

Post #8000965

Well, I never thought I would buy a composter ... but while perusing the soil and composting forum a composter ad popped up and inquisitive me just had to check it out.

http://www.compostbins.com/compost-bins/compost-tumblers/goodideassoilmachinepro6cubicfootcomposttumbler.cfm#ReviewHeader


I want this one!

Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
7:13 PM

Post #8001087

Hi Mary:
I do a lot of both seed plugs and liners (rooted cuttings). I am trying to keep under the 18" tall sized plants. I loosely refer to it as the undergrowth department, its what I specialize in. my favorite is New orleans crepe myrtle a true dwarf about 12" tall. I truely love it. I grow everything in 2" plugs and 18 to a flat 3.5" pots.
Just about any perrienial I find unusual and can either get a good stock plant for or a good source for seed. I also buy in liners of Hosta's and resell them. I will have some second year hosta's next spring just looking at what I have at the moment in stock. some of the list I have coming in as seed as we speak (waiting on delivery to sow).
I do everything myself with the occasional help from my youngest niece mostly summer time. she like the extra money. I am trying to transition into selling flats of everything mostly 50 as I am looking for the insert and box the bigger liner people use.
I don't see why I can't carve out a little sideline with little to no hand tending except for fertilizing and weeding. it would be nice to be able to pay for a cruise (alaska) for our 10th anniversary in 2012. I know I suprised my wife when she looked at our bank accounts online and I had quite a bit of money in there from all the sales earlier this month. I still need to buy some supplies to fine tune everything but its getting close to automantic with the timer's I use. All I have to do to fertilize is unscrew the hose from the outlet (bibb) and screw on the fertilizer injector. I try to do this once a week but its been a couple of weeks due to the heat. Its real easy to burn up plants with liquid feed in the hot dry summer.
I am hopeing to have a wonderfull fall. I just pulled off sno hill salvia, silver mound, spirea 'Shirobana', Dianthus 'pinks', red corriopsis which allowed me to sow alaska shasta daisies, ox-eye daisies, corriopsis lance leaf, a few others that slip my mind. I hope to have space to do 40 flats every 8 weeks during the growing season and a couple thousand trees in the winter, ok a few hundred but I can dream can't I????
I have the mist heads from a drip system set up to go off every 4 hours for 5 min. and it seems to have been the exact timing.
I am hopeing to sow more Japanese maples, red bud's, golden rain tree's and one other tree from seed. ok enough for my plan of attack we will see where it all ends up. I have been slowly building all this a little bit at a time (shoe string). My wife started it all off with a greenhouse for my birthday about 3 years ago. The beauty of it all is its very portable and could be liquidated real easy if my health goes the way the dr's fear it will.
Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
8:15 PM

Post #8001259

Dave, I am looking for creeping phlox (perrenial). Do you have any?

Would you like me to collect Japanese Red Leaf Maple to send you from this tree?

Mary

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 27, 2010
9:29 PM

Post #8001379

Mary:
yes please Its still a little bit early but I will try to let you know when its time. I try to shoot for when the first few seeds fall I know its close to time for harvest. It works well for me. I don't have any creeping phlox but i am sure I can find the seed to grow some. Is there a specific variety you are kind of looking for. seeds don't come true to the parent but we can hope...
Dave
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
4:59 AM

Post #8001642

Shoot! Here I thought "Cargo Freight" was going to be a new shopping place for me! :-)
I had a compost tmbler once, but it held so little 'stuff' that I got rid of it (remember, if you actually want it to mix when you turn it, you can't stuff it full...) I just go with a big pile now (actually, 2, so one is always useable) and let them just sit until they are done. Well, if I'm feeling very friski, sometimes I stick a pitchfork into the middle and lean on it to fluff it up a bit!
Test today- 2.5 hrs. I'll let you know what they ask!
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 28, 2010
6:33 AM

Post #8001861

Did you study? what subject is it in...math???
Thae mixing part is why I am asking.
Dave
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2010
8:29 AM

Post #8002074

Dave ~ Do you have a website where you offer the varieties of your plants? I would like some of the things that you have listed there, but only a few, not a whole flats of Crape Myrtle and Silver Mound. If you had a couple thousand going, wouldn't it really be too much? LOL!

Jill ~ I have a ComposTumbler and really like it. Still, you have quite a few valid points. First of all, it really is not mine, I don't think, but maybe it will be. I have a neighbor who will be moving up here soon who let me borrow it. What I do is empty it out every 14 days and put it on the compost pile in my fenced garden area and then let it finish, as it is not finished in 14 days, though they claim that. (My fenced garden is visible from the road, and now it does not look like I just put my garbage out there.) I usually add a half bag of chicken manure if there are not enough things to put in there to help it along. Many times my husband will have wood shavings for me and other assorted goodies from his building efforts to add in there. I have two piles there as well, the new one and the old one. When I empty the bin, I put in on the new pile...and the new pile gets moved on top of the old pile. It is much better than our old method, as before it looked like we tossed garbage out the window. The animals always got into it, and made a big mess. Now they do not, as it is in the fenced area. Good luck on your test and job application, and please let us know how it went, OK?.

Mary ~ What Creeping Phlox are you looking for? I might have some small pieces that I can share. I have white, a lavender-blue and a pink. The only thing is I won't ship until fall as the weather is too hot right now and I have quite a bit going here as well to do any digging and shipping.

JB ~ How is your cousin doing? Is it still extremely hot there? It is cool this morning, but it may be an anomaly.

Gotta' go now...work to be done.

CHEERS!

Evelyn

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 28, 2010
8:39 AM

Post #8002104

Yipes! 2 1/2 hour test! A test that long is very taxing on the brain. Jillann, if you need to give your brain time to re-coup, just tell us the approximate number taking the test for now ... and inform us about the type of questions involved later.

Dave, any creeping (very low) phlox ... a variety of colors would be nice. my next door neighbor is also interested. i sure would like to throw some business your way.

I realize it will be some time before my Japanese Red Leaf maple will be sending seeds a sailing. Each spring i notice a considerable number of seedlings from it ... but this year there were not so many ... instead there was ab infestation of oak tree seedlings ... must have yanked at least 300 to 400 and they are still popping up every now and then.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
8:58 AM

Post #8002145

You will do good on your test today avianut. Good luck. I just hate tests. But, when they are done they are done. But, then you have an interview too. Cripe. My grandson filled out an application for a job at the college. Then he went in for an interview and they hired him right then. 'course it helped I am sure that one of his friends recommended him. He is taking their courses on line and then goes to the college to work!!

My daughter gets pretty disgusted. Whatever he is doing she says anybody could do it and he is making more money than she is after working in the retail business all her life.

I told her look at what a few years of school will do for you. Plus, retail is notorious for the low wages they pay.

I have tried 2 different styles of the compost tumblers and I think they are too hard to turn. Even that one that has the little wheel and the thing that is suppose to make it easier to turn. I can hear you saying that I have too much in them then. Well, if you don't put enough in there to do any good then why bother? In fact that just reminded me that the last one I tried is still sitting out there and I need to take it back to my sister.

Evelyn, are those bees? You can please ship me some of those. I have not seen a bee all summer. Maybe that is why I am not getting any tomatoes.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
9:08 AM

Post #8002172

Forgot to add that my daughter took some college classes and everyone in the class was cheating. She was so disgusted. She worked so hard to get good grades and got them. The rest of the people tried to get her to join their group of passing the questions etc around and she wouldn't do it.

She said most of them were not paying for the schooling themselves. They were being retrained etc. She was very discouraged to think that those people were going to get the same credit she was when she was working so hard. And she wouldn't be any farther ahead. So she quit.

Dave, those little Maple seedlings you sent me are really growing. They need to be re-potted already.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 28, 2010
9:53 AM

Post #8002251

Jnette ~ Yes, loads of bumblebees on the white lavender. I would not know how to ship them, as I know nothing about that sort of thing. My mom use to keep honeybees. I have not see a lot of those here, but many bumblebees. They are hard to photograph as they move around quickly.

I do not fill the ComposTumbler all the way full, but just half way. If it starts to get too full, I will empty it, or take some out if the 14 days are not up. I have to turn it everyday so I want to keep it doable.

I really must go now...lots to do.
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
3:28 PM

Post #8002910

WOW! You have access to chicken manure for your compost pile, Evelyn?? You are soo lucky. Plus, I hear roaming chickens will eat slugs... Do you rent them out?
Well, here's the scoup on the test... it was me (57 yr old lady) and about 30 males all in the age range of upper 20's to mid-30's. Soo... I think I did well on the test- it covered mostly general gardening/propagation questions, with some pruning and turf questions thrown in. Also several pesticide safety/etc questions, but one of the requrements for the job is a Comercial Pesticide Applicators License, which I happen to have, so have studed that material as well. Also, I did wade through a Turf Class ( :-( , several tree classes, and a pathology class, to get my Assoc. Hort degree this spring, so I actually did know some of the answers that I might otherwise not have. Still, their eyes are brighter than mine, so there ya go. It felt good to try, though, and I don't regret going to the trouble. If nothing else, I made them all do a double-take when I walked in to the test! (ie, what the He** is that gray-haired lady doing here?!?)
We take our smiles where we can! :-)
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
3:56 PM

Post #8002973

Oh, meant to say... Jnette- you raised an honorable daughter. You (and she) should be proud.
Jillann
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 28, 2010
4:26 PM

Post #8003074

Jillann, I think you have a great shot in landing the position. It is widely known that in general those up in age are more conscienious workers. If you are in good health ... which I am assuming you are ... health insurance coverage is considerably less because you do not have any dependents. Are you presently employed?

Evelyn, I would love to have a few pieces of your creeping phlox ... fall is fine for me , I just would like to have them in the ground long enough to get somewhat established before the cold weather sets in.

I took this pic today ... that is a bee on one of my mini dalias.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
5:56 PM

Post #8003256

Thanks Jillann. Sure do think you have a good chance at getting the job. I don't know why you wouldn't. Who is it with? Is it a government or school agency or affiliation? That would be even better. I'll bet your credentials looked pretty good. Bet the guys were quaking in their boots. LOL
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 28, 2010
6:44 PM

Post #8003355

Janette you should be so proud of her. I wish mine would have gone to college and not married the guy with not a thing going for him, but my daughter.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 28, 2010
8:55 PM

Post #8003634

Dawn, she didn't go to college until she was in her late 40s. She did the same thing you are saying about your daughter. Then after he took care of himself, she married a real calm quiet guy and had a wonderful son.

Don't count her out yet. One of these days she may wake up and wonder what she is doing, and do something about it. It is never too late.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 28, 2010
9:38 PM

Post #8003705

Oh that makes me think I should go to college. I just don't want the student loans at this age is one main issue and I am far from the jr college and it is in the town where I work, so I would drive 30 miles to work, home, then 30 miles one way to college and back another 30. Excuses though. If I really made my mind up to do it, I would figure some way out.

Thanks that makes me have hope for dd.
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2010
4:42 AM

Post #8003910

helln-
(oops... can I use your nom de plume, or will the word-police get me??)
Can't you just go to work, stay for a nice dinner somewhere, and then go to class? (No extra driving?)

Jnette- job is w/ the city of omaha, maintaining the parks and public areas

Thanks all for the encouragement- test results are supposed to take 2-4 weeks, then we'll see if I get an interview. Whatever, I feel good that I got up the nerve to apply, anyway.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 29, 2010
6:22 AM

Post #8004065

What are burgs?

When is the best time to transplant Lily of the Valley?

So far today, my area has received a few short showers.

Hoping to visit my daughter today and go to the Christmas Tree Shop.

Mary

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 29, 2010
7:47 AM

Post #8004226

Dawn, my grandson is taking his college on line and he is near enough to the college (a branch) that he is working there. LOL. BUT, it is expensive and he has tons of homework he has to send in. The college is one of the main ones in the state. I think it is expensive but when you consider all the expenses he doesn't have because he doesn't actually attend classes at the college.

Even our little rural town has college classes on line at the community center because that is where the computers are. They could take them in their homes. These people are being retrained tho because the mine shut down and they don't have jobs.

So, you see, you can take college classes right at home. All you have to do is go to the college and work with a councilor to determine what to take and what it costs. Any more there really is no excuse not to do it if you want to work at it.

avianut, is it Jillann? Like I said, that is even better. That sounds great. So hope you get it. Keep us posted. Wonder why it takes them that long to go thru the apps. But you know, in Seattle, my daughter was telling me you apply on line and the computer apparently culls them out, and one wrong answer (just on the application) one they don't like, kicks your app out, so you never get to talk to a person.

They have kiosks in the malls to fill out applications that way, or you can fill them out at the company where you are applying, that way, on the computer, or you can fill them out at home. Again, the computer culls them out. Is that sick or what????

Mary, burgs, are Brugs. Angel Trumpets.


Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 29, 2010
3:55 PM

Post #8005177

Howdy:
wow congrats on the new degree. as far as college goes it is possible to do. I did find a loop hole a few years back... i don't know if its still there but its a good one. as long as you are taking 6 hrs of college you don't start making payments for 6 months after your last class. i knew one guy who was a professional student. he had 3 or 4 different degrees from the same 2 yr college. he would get close to graduation and then start a new degree program while finishing the last one.
a city Job is well worth the effort.Can we say Benifits... retirement is also great.
it sounds like evelyn has the phlox. I do sell small quantities also in the market place. I have not added the newer stuff yet. Dmail me what everyone is wanting and we can work something out.
I hope I have not missed anyone
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2010
9:27 AM

Post #8006588

Well you guys, seems all I get done any more these days is watering and fertilizing. You would think I would have time to clean my house wouldn't you? Guess I will work on it today. LOL

Whoops!! Forgot today is fertilizer day. I'm telling you, if it's not one thing it's another. But, I am going to try my steamer again today. LOL.

I also have a lot of my wintersowed plants that I didn't get planted but it is too hot to plant them now. Will wait another month and see. Some of them are blooming already. Rudbeckias.

Dave, Sharon was talking about her cloner. Do you remember, did she say if the stems of her plants are in water? Is her pump in side the cloner in water or outside on an airstone? If the roots are in the water then I would say it is a bubbler. If not, is it an aeroponic system?

evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

July 30, 2010
10:23 AM

Post #8006664

Jnette ~ Yes, the housework can get put on the "back burner", when keeping up with watering and weeding. At least the outside looks nice and tidy... Yesterday I had to steam the kitchen floor 3 times, and the third pad was dirtier than the first one. (It was 3 days since I cleaned it last!) I does help if I do it every day...also, do not put the pads in your dryer or use any fabric softener for best results. Still, I do not have all the weeds done and was watering several beds at once...and trying to keep up with them. at least I have timers on 2 of them so I don't overwater and the water won't run down over the beds. I need to get all of them on the better timers. What is the best kind to use?
You seem to know a lot about cloning...what projects are you working on right now?

Dave ~ Do you have your watering on timers? What kind do you use?

Mary ~ I only have a *very* small amount of creeping phlox, but I can send you a little bit this fall, if you wish. D-mail me if you are interested, OK?

Jillann ~ Ok, so let us know if you get an interview...

Dawn ~ Maybe if you start a few, or even one online course, maybe your DD might follow suit. (Just a thought!) There are so many interesting courses...maybe even botany or something else in which you have an interest.

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
10:25 AM

Post #8006665

Hi Jeanette:
You are right about it being a bubler. I think sharon is AWOL ... she said it was a cloner so I am wondering if its one of those things that sprays mist on the rootzone while the roots develop?
I try to do one thing every day to make forward momentum. yesterday was quite the interesting day. We built a new bench for the GH. I had the measurements exactly, so it ended up we had to force it in. and wouldn't you know it, ...I was on the inside behind the bench, so I had to do some acrobatics to climb out. boy it was tough to climb out. I was so afraid the bench top slats were made out of 6" pt pickets. I know I will have to recover in a year or 2 but I found a sturdy plastic 2'x4' grated top from one of the big wholesale hort suppliers.
Today I got 15 flats ready to sow or stick so now on monday I can start cutting some of the plants I need to. I think as long as I am moving forward each day I will be in better shape come spring next year. I have most of the nursery ans GH on auto watering so thats a big help. I found 2 different timers at HD so I am able to run the mist house every 3 hours for 5 min and the nursery 3 times in the day.4:00 noon and 8pm for 20 min.. I have noticed that I need to trim a few things back as the water is blocked causeing me to have to hand water and thats DEFINATELY NOT the idea ...lol
well I am taking it easy the rest of the day.
Have a great day
Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
10:28 AM

Post #8006666

Hi all! Looking for suggestions in regards to clear waterproof products. Yesterday at the Chrustmas Tree Shop I found nice sthick solid glass soap dishes that i plan to use for plant markerlels ... I would like to print a picture of the flower and its commoin name ... glue it to the bottom .so the picture and name will be visible through the top ... I want to seal the bottom with a clear waterproof product ,,, preferably a spray.

Has anyone propragated shasta daisy ... if so how?

Mary

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
10:31 AM

Post #8006673

evelyn:
I do have timers from HD. I bought 2 on closeout this spring. well I found out why they were close outs. the plastic that attaches the timer to the water supply broke off in a month's use. I returned the broken one and set the other one on the ground with a feeder hose from the tap and the mist heads to the GH on the timer. the thing that caused the break was useing the external outlet on the timer body. I have hoses attached to everything so I don't worry about breaking. I did have a lake when the 1st feeder hose broke. boy what a lot of water.
Stay cool
Dave
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
10:33 AM

Post #8006675

Mary:
I do alaska from seed. I am sure its an easy one to do cutting of, as its like a weed at least it seems so to me.
Dave
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
10:39 AM

Post #8006684

Mary: I will look into getting some creeping phlox to grow for you and your friend. Please remind me next week to make sure I have not forgotten.
Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
12:52 PM

Post #8006959

Here is a picture of 4 of the glass soap dishes (I bought 31). I think they are 2" by 4" and 3/8 in thick. I have them placed upside down. The top which I will have as a bottom has a slight ridge. I placed a pictue of a rose in one for this shot.

The next 3 posts are about japanese red leaf maple.

Mary

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
12:54 PM

Post #8006967

Some seeds on japanese maple... Taken today

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
12:59 PM

Post #8006971

Close up (also taken today) of leaves on small japanese maple. I think its leaves are so red because it has been watered frequently ... the mother of this tree leaves are not this red ... no way would I attempt to water it ... it would cost way too much money.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2010
1:00 PM

Post #8006975

Evelyn, Thanks for the tip on the Steamer covers. I should have gotten more of them. But, I am having Bob pick up some of the microfiber cloths today in town and some velcro tape. I am going to see if I can't make some myself. Seems like that should be easy, I'll let you know how it goes. I just will not do them every day. I have too much else to do.

I did get my 36 foot hose for my vacuum and now it is easier to reach the entire kitchen and that helps a lot. Much better.

It's been a long time since I have used timers so you need to get that info from Dave.

I have used both kinds of cloners evelyn and didn't have very good luck with the aeroponic, where the roots are not in water but just misted while hanging from the top.

I am thinking I might start a couple of shoots off of my brugs rooting and they might be easier to hold over instead of the big plants this winter.

Dave, I think if EZ Cloners are charging that big price for a bubbler they should be ashamed of themselves. They sound like they are no more than the way we used to bubble in a waste basket or garbage can. Same results. You can even do different size containers for different size plants.

Your benches in the greenhouse sound really good Dave. Lotsa work, but nice to have done. And so useful!!!

You don't have any problems with diseases watering that late at night Dave? I would think with the plants being damp overnight that they might get mold or something.

I'm interested in the outcome of your plant markers Mary. Sounds neat. Be sure to post pictures.

Where did you go JB? Lee? You two out to lunch? I know Sharon has her family there so don't expect her for a few days, but how is Barney? And Lee, how is your mom doing now?

We sure would like to hear from you guys, even if it is b------g about the heat. LOL

Have a good day.

OH, One last thing, You guys, where do I get the hand steamer?????
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
1:01 PM

Post #8006976

Here is the picture of the small japanese maple that I had previously posted.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2010
1:06 PM

Post #8006985

That looks like a Bloodgood Maple Mary. Is it in your yard? I had 2 of them in my yard in Seattle and really liked them. Dave sent me 2 seedlings of them and they were so close together that I twisted their trunks together. I might not leave them that way. Seems they are growing awfully fast i should take a look and do something with them. Either take them apart or decide to leave them.

Would you take a picture of the whole tree for Dave. That would help him know how to proceed with them when you send him the seeds. I am not sure where he got the seeds but don't think he has the tree.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2010
1:08 PM

Post #8006988

LOL, we've been crossposting Mary. Is that the one that you took the picture of the leaves up above?
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
1:17 PM

Post #8007007

Jeanette, leave the seedlings together. Dave can always send you more seedlings. I will be sending Dave seeds from the mama tree ... I believe it was full grown when I moved in over 45 years ago. Only a few of the seedlings from it (at least those I have seen) were not this red ... Once in a while there would be a green leaf one.

I am reposting the picture I have of the mama japanese red leaf maple ... small one does not have any seeds ... I wonder how old they have to be to produce seeds.

Mary

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 30, 2010
1:20 PM

Post #8007012

I wonder how long we can keep this cross posting going.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 30, 2010
3:12 PM

Post #8007244

LOL, guess I broke it.

That is bigger than mine were and I think my oldest one was probably 15 years or so. But it sure didn't seem to grow any after about the 8 to 10 years. Maybe it isn't Bloodgood. humm



For those of you who have the handheld steamer? (Sorry Dave, just a minute) How do you use it with just the little pointy thing. Do you use a rag or something, microfiber cloth to clean it up? I that how you are suppose to use it?



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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

July 31, 2010
10:05 AM

Post #8008762

I do not have a little pointy thing on mine. The base of it is a triangle, which makes it great.
because the cover that goes over it fits on it and you just remove it, and throw it in the laundry to wash for the next time. I have purchased a few extra's The triangle shape makes it easy to get into corners, etc. Sorry I am no help.
I do not know when I was here last but I have been extremely busy with trying to find a place to move my cousin (the one who had a heart attack Tuesday of this week). they sent her home with nurses, but she is hopefully going to cooperate and permit us to move her back to our hometown in PA. That way my son and his wife, who are her POAs can take care of her without driving an hour to get to her.
Also, you all have so many different plants that I do not even know what they are, that I just skim over the mail every morning and if I do not see anything I know what you are talking about, I just go on to the next and get my work done.
I have no idea what I am going to be selling this year except the cactus and gardenias.
It is time to take cuttings from the Jasmine but if this heat does not ease up I just can not ship. I was talking to one of the guys in Texas on Plant Scout and he has suspended shipping also because of the heat. This is a first for many of us. I am still propagating some cuttings and transplanting stock plants into larger containers but like this morning. It was in the 70's when I got up about 5:30 a.m. and I turned off the AC and opened the windows and gave all the birds a bath so they would dry before the AC went back on.
I still have to water everything in the house, which takes a good hour, and do some sewing of sleepy hut covers for the birds...I also need to crochet some scrubbies which I use to clean the cages. So, I have plenty to do when I find time and energy to do it.
BTW, how do yo mix the polymer? If I get a break in the weather I want to ship your Black PWs, but I got the darn polymer and no instructions to mix came with it.
Talk when I can. Hugs. JB


merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
10:08 AM

Post #8008765

What would happen if one prunes a blueberry bush now? It has not been pruned in years. It is not my bush ... it is tall and lanky.

Thanks
Mary
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
10:28 AM

Post #8008796

Does anyone have cyclamen?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 31, 2010
11:07 AM

Post #8008856

JB, Use one teaspoon of crystals per cup of water. Does that give you an idea? Then use maybe a tablespoon of the hydrated ones for shipping per plant. Just an estimte. You would be able to tell better what they need.

I put the tsp of crystals in a pyrex cup of water and take a fork and stir it up. I take about an hour and every once in a while walk by and stir it again. Then I figure it is ready to use. You will be able to tell.

Don't rush on sending it if you aren't comfortable with it.

Mary, I would say to prune after they are done producing. Then maybe, if they are like other shrubs, take a third out per year over 3 years. However, why don't you google them instead? You should be able to find a lot of info on blueberries with a little research.
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 31, 2010
11:15 AM

Post #8008865

Hi, Jnette and friends. I have graciously allowed to return to DG and this was one of the threads I was watching back in '08.
Mary, first thing to do is take a qt. jar, fill 3/4 full of water and put One teaspoon of the polymer crystals in it and leave over night. This will give you some idea of how much they swell.
Do not do like Bunny did and put dry crystals in the bottom of the pot, add a plant and soil, then water. When the crystal swelled they heaved the plant and potting soil on to her white carpet.
I mix some dry crystals with the soil and then water. Let it set overnight and then plant.
Here is the place I get mine from and some information.
http://watersorb.com/application.htm
Sidney, professional lurker
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
11:22 AM

Post #8008880

What is polymer?
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 31, 2010
12:57 PM

Post #8009163

I'm sorry Mary
I thought you were talking about water crystals.
I'll just go back to lurking and stay out of the conversation here.
Should I delete the advice? or were you actually talking about the crystals that hold water?
If you are speaking of the water retaining crystals that look like dry grits, they are super absorbent polymer. (SAP) It will significantly reduce water depletion while dramatically improving plant survival and growth.
My apologies.
Sidney
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
1:10 PM

Post #8009193

Sugaer, I think JB asked how to mix polymere. She is extremely busy ... I do not know were she finds all the time and energy to tend to everything.

Mary
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

July 31, 2010
1:14 PM

Post #8009209

LOL,
I ma a lack-luster lurker, and can't keep up with who's doing what.
Thanks Mary.
;)
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 31, 2010
5:00 PM

Post #8009567

I need to order more in bulk. Someone here on dg sells it in bulk and I talked to someone on chat about the crystals and how I saw that a person on dg sold it at the market place, it turned out to be her that I was talking to.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
6:13 PM

Post #8009706

Hi Sidney:
It is quite challenging to keep up with evertone and whats going on. The story of the "crystals" is funny. I had a similar experience. I had never worked with them and my dear wife was insistant on using them in plantings for our last residence. we mixed them in with the soil and transplanted everyone in the garden. a couple of days went by and I noticed all the soil was heaved around the new plants and they had this wierd looking jelly stuff in the soil. I still find it fun to joke about my original experience with them. I like to have fun even at my own expense. She has not allowed me to forget the incident since. I now mix the soil and water the day before I use it so I get a nice mix that will ettle and not heave out.
We always like new blood on the thread. I have found that everyone has something neat to contribute to our discussions.
Mary I am always seeking seeds for specific trees to grow out. its real fun to watch in the spring as all the new seedlings emerge. The only issue I have had in the past is my cat who thinks my seed trays are either a new bed for him to lounge on or a new litter box. I can't seem to catch him in the act but its quite obvious when all the seedling disapear all at the same time
I built a new bench for the Green House and it was quite a treat to get it in the green House as I measured to the exact fraction of an inch and had to force it in the Green House. The best part was the acrobatic act it took for me to haul my fat butt over the top of the bench. My dear niece was amazed at how I was still able to climb out all the while worrying i would fall or the slats on top of the bench would break. I am sure I can imagine her trying to lift me as I am about 4 times her tiny size.
Oh well now I have the room for 40 trays in production. if I can get everyone to cooperate I will be able to crank out 160 trays a year and all I have to do is find a buyer. Oh treat - oh joy. i am sure they will all find new homes
ut oh i just realized i may have repeated my self on the bench sorry if I have done so.
Have a great eveing
Dave
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

July 31, 2010
6:15 PM

Post #8009711

Hi Dawm:
Yes its good to find it in bulk Please let us know if you do find it.
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

July 31, 2010
8:52 PM

Post #8010105

Watch out for bulk in those crystals you guys. What do you mean in bulk? I bought 5 lbs. 2 or 3 years ago and still have almost all of them left.

Mary, Sidney is right. Whoops, Sugarweed. The water crystals are actually polymer crystals that hold water. Now if JB is talking about something else then I am at a loss
'cause I assumed that is what she was talking about also.

Glad to see you Sidney, haven't for a while.

Jeanette
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

July 31, 2010
9:35 PM

Post #8010149

Why do you still have them Janette? They would all be gone here in a couple of weekends of planting and I would be looking for more. Want to sell them?
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
4:48 AM

Post #8010346

Greenhouse megastore has Soil Moist crystals- 1 lb for 11.50, 3 lbs for 29.50, 8lbs for 69.00. I assume you're not interested in the 30 or 50lb drums... :-)
http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/Soil-Moist-Granules/productinfo/SO-MOIST/

I don't use this product, but I order flats/pots from them in bulk sometimes
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
6:55 AM

Post #8010536

Hmmmm ... seems like polymer is something I could bebefit from. I would like to hear were you all order it.
At this site I can order 4 lbs for $34.95 ... Price includes US priority mail shipping. If there is a better source please post.

http://www.watersorb.com/prices.htm

Mary

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sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 1, 2010
7:46 AM

Post #8010644

Mary,
Watersorb is the only place I would order these from.
The very best prices I have found.
The guys there are very accommodating and worked with me to get a mixed order back in '05.
The last time I ordered I got 55# sack and divided it into pkgs to be hand delivered at a round up here in Florida.

A year or so ago one of the TV news 'feature' stories was about this fellow here in Jacksonville who was very concerned about what appeared to be crushed ice all over his front lawn. LOL
He said it was slick like ice, but wasn't cold.
I knew immediately what it was.
These crystal are not designed nor able to do anything for your plant when applied to the surface. They need to be root deep to feed water to the plant.

[quote]How much water does it store and release?

Research shows that Watersorb super absorbent polymers can release up to 95% of the water absorbed and make it available to the plant. Remember that 1 pound of Watersorb can absorb 40 gallons of rain water and 31 gallons of tap water.[/quote]

Hope this helps,
Sidney
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 1, 2010
9:37 AM

Post #8010898

Jeanette ~ I have the steamer with the point on the end. They supplied one microfiber cloth in order to wipe afterward if that helps. I admit, I have not been using it as much as the floor steamer, but thanks for reminding me as it is very handy and saves on using other products using for cleaning. Did you get your floor steamer working or is it defective? D-mail me and I can give you more info on that, if you need it, OK?

Sidney ~ Yes, welcome back. I was not on this thread when you were, though I have been a member since 2002. I have been away a while as well due to many operations, but I am back and trying to get things in order. This year I planted 8 square foot gardens in veggies that I grew all from seed, except the broccoli and the potatoes. I will try again with the broccoli for this fall, as I am determined to succeed. It takes me a lot longer than it used to for many things, as I am getting older as well...just almost 69, but not really OLD...I had to sift them (the SFG's) all out after digging to the bottoms to get the clay, weeds and old roots out, as it has been a while since we put them in.

I grew peas, carrots, beets, potatoes, many kinds of lettuce, of which we are still harvesting, and now the tomatoes are finally starting to bear fruit. It has been consistenlty hot, but before that we had late snows and hail in May so everything got planted late. I could not work the soil in such wet and cold conditions. I know I will plant a lot more peas, lettuce and broccoli and some cabbage, too, for this fall.

Also, I started a new flower garden, I call it the "Cottage Garden Border", as I dug out the old White Daisy Garden, which had all sorts of daisies, asters, mums and boltonias, and wanted something new. (I moved those daisies into the White Flower Border, which needs to be reworked as well.) This time, instead of just amending small parts or "amending the planting hole", I dug it all out and put in a lot of organic compost and peat with bone meal, blood meal, azomite, biochar and some other various organics to beef up my soil as it is hard clay, but that bed is, for the most part, no longer hard. I have to be careful where I walk as it is like walking on a pillow instead of my old hard ground...LOL!

I have a question for you...you said that the Watersorb stores 95% of the water, but at what rate does it release it? And how long does it last? I put some under my hydrangea as it is a waterhog, but I still have to water it daily as it flops over towards the end of the day. Maybe I did not use enough...not sure...

Dawn ~ Do you use them? Yes, maybe you can get them from Jeanette...LOL! Jeanette, are you going to sell your polymer crystals?

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JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 1, 2010
9:46 AM

Post #8010925

Hi everyone, Sidney the lurker too! I do appreciate all the information except you gave me two different amounts of the polymer to use with the one tsp to hydrate. I am not sure how much 3/4 of a quart would be but I can figure it out. One cup was easier but I will work it out and I do appreciate your help.
I am hoping this conversation was about the Polymer crystals you get from www.water-sorb.com
because I got 2 lbs of Medium polymer for $19.95. Not counting shipping. That site is good and gives you information that is good but they suggest 1 tsp per 1 qt. of water to hydrate for bare root transplants, and they use Powder polymer. I bought crystals. Did not realize there was a powder but I would guess that is like a jell when hydrated, yuck...not sure I would want to mess with that in shipping, so I bought the crystals.
Hey Jen, you were edited again. Did you do that? If not, the edit fairy is back again watching us, waiting to smack us for saying bad words. LOL
I swear to God, the mealy bugs are going to make me totally crazy. They are outside on bushes and inside on plants...but I did see a praying mantis on my Aimee on the deck. I am hoping the eat mealybug.
I spent yesterday moving things around in the greenhouse. I still have not done inventory because things die daily. The weather was great for one day and now it is back up in the 90s again and to stay that way for three or four more days.*&^%^%$#%^^ I moved all the new begonias to the GH since they are now big enough to be on their own. I am hoping they make it in that heat. I need them to grow so I can start taking cuttings.
Must go, kids just got back from weekend wedding and I need to talk to them about my cousin who had the heart attack. Later. Have a good day. JB

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
9:50 AM

Post #8010934

I got mine, Watersorb, on a coop. Dawn, you just think you could use that many. These things could eat the world. LOL

Find someone to do a coop on them. BUT, coops are not instant if you want them tomorrow. It would take a month at least to get them back.

Dawn, you ask why do I still have them? Because I don't use them for everything. I use mine for my hanging baskets etc. Not for planting in the soil. The ground. They might work for that.

Maybe since it is so dry down there, possibly you would use that many. If that's the case, then you need to find someone to do a coop. My 5# wouldn't be enough for you.

Those prices are really high. Mine were not near that, but then that was a couple of years ago. However, they do give much better prices to coops.

Maybe Sugar would do a coop? Or, get Pagancat, she might, Cathy on Cat 1465 or something numbers. There are a number of really super good hostesses out there that might do it.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
10:14 AM

Post #8010983

Looks like we all crossposted this time. LOL, never have seen a 3 way 'till now.

Evelyn and Dawn, Maybe I am using these things wrong, 'cause I would not use them in the ground. Up here, and I am sure down there, they would sift down thru the sandy soil never to be seen again if they once lost their water. And, I just don't think you could put enough of them in there unless you had maybe a lot of peat or something to help them hold the water. Sand, I think, would be a killer on them. I am not too sure of your soil overall. Not around each plant.

I don't think I want to sell mine, because I do use them, for containers and shipping plants, and it sounds like mine would just be a drop in the bucket for what you guys are talking about.

You all need to join a coop. Oh, one more thing, I did not know about a powder either, and I doubt if it is something you would want for what you guys are talking about. I would have to see someone use it, or a demonstration to change my mind about that.

LOL, JB, I am sure it must have been me that edited myself 'cause I do not use those nasty words you are talking about. ROTFLMAO. Gotcha!!

JB you had better make friends with those Preying Mantis. They are your best friend.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
10:30 AM

Post #8011019

ut oh ... I live less tham 20 miles from JB but my present temperature is only 74 ... I have been doing some clean up gardening ... the misquitos thought I was a nice meal so I decided to come in and put on some bug repellant. We had a little rain ... showers predicted for throughtout today and tomorrow here so I want to take advantage of the milder temps

They forecast a high of 90 here on Wed.

All my attempts ar rooting begonia have never succeeded. I am open to suggestions.

JB ... I hope everything is better with your cousin If I see any Praying manthis, I will direct them to head your way ... I have never seen a mealy bug ... I had to google info to see what they look like ... frankly I do not like them.

Someone please explain this co-op thing to me ... what are the details? How does it work?

Mary

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
10:39 AM

Post #8011033

Mary, the best way for you to find that information is to go to the coop forum. Go to communities on your header and find coops. And read the description on that. Then if you still have questions we can help you. But, that would be the best way for you to know.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
11:04 AM

Post #8011091

Howdy:
yesterday was 102 for the temp then add in the heat index. today more of the same. did see a funny automatic sign with the time and temp... it said 205 degrees...lol it stayed up for 3 days...
I use the polymer on everything as we do dryout and the heat is well horrid.
we are starting a remodel on the house so its gonna be a mess but hopefully just a little bit of time not like the 5yrs it took on our condo because we did it one part at a time all on our own. not this one...we have hired help coming.
New windows, siding seemless gutters, front door, man door on the garage plus a new garage door, hardwwods in the dining new carpet, a new pantrey where the wet bar is now.
I get to be forman and not many decissions to make...lol
as you can guess not much going on outside except for the spot watering and the auto stuff. I did breakdown and buy 200 ft of the 1/2" black poly for drip in the beds of the back yard along with the bigginer kit to get all the misc. stuff I might not get or think of. Its going to be nice.
stay cool
Dave

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 1, 2010
11:07 AM

Post #8011099

Hey Mary, it is 83.3 in the shade today and 90 deg. in the greenhouse. LOL I am inside watching the PA 500. and sewing sleepy hut covers. Thanks for the good wishes for my cousin. The fact she is in Hershey makes it hard to me to even think of going up there. I do not want to take care of anyone else in my lifetime. I have done it 3 times and there is a limit to my good nature. I adore her but she choose to live there and so she needs to do what she has to do. I am just trying to keep my sanity while I deal with these people who can not remember things. It is so difficult.
I need to loose some weight. I hate exercising. I wish I could just cut off the fat in my middle and throw it away. HA...that would be a great trick if I could do it. Need a sharp knife. I love food.
I must look up praying mantis and see what they eat. I can always buy some like I did those silly ladybugs but I am afraid we will have a monsoon if I by big bugs...we had that Noreaster with the ladybugs. LOL. Later. Hugs. JB
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
11:36 AM

Post #8011177

Dave, that is soooooo exciting!! When are they starting? How did you decide who to do it? The remodel? Keep us updated on what is happening.

Dave, Where do you get your polymers? What do you mean everything? In the ground too? That is interesting. You must not have sandy soil huh?

JB, LOL, that is why they developed stomach banding. Also Liposuction to do that very thing. Sounds like you need the first. banding. Don't want to think of that do you? The problem is, the more you eat, the less you move around. Then, the more you eat, etc.

That is what aging is all about. Just ask me and I will tell you.

Hate the sound of that hot weather Dave. We had a thunder and lightening storm yesterday so it cooled things off outside. Highs finally got up to the low 70s. But, you don't cool off the house overnight. Guess that is good tho. Now you know why we have trouble growing things here.

Guess I'll go water the tomatoes. Kiss those praying mantis JB.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 1, 2010
12:33 PM

Post #8011267

Jeanette ~ Oh, yes! The weight issue is getting very real for me. For most of my life I have been slender, not skinny. After the first of the year after the last fall...etc, I started gaining weight after quitting all those meds. I don't know if one had to do with the other, but I had actually been losing weight before and keeping it off. Now I have a tremedous appetite...oh, what to do?? No lapband surgery for me...or knives of any kind. Had enough surgeries, thank you!
As for the polymers, I have clay soil, of which is amended, but never enough. Some plants, like hydrangeas are waterhogs, so I put some in when I planted it. It still turned pink, so I guess I had better put in some more peat and some soil sulfer to get my pH lower. I don't know if the polymers would alter the pH? It is Hydrangea 'Endless Summer', and it has been a good bloomer, after it grew back what the deer ate off earlier in the season.

JB ~ I am getting to be like you, about loving food, that is...also, my hubby loves to cook and all these gourmet recipes. I just do plain and simple with a little stirfry and some stews thrown in...otherwise baked or broiled chicken breast...etc. He, of course, will cook thighs - with the skins on! Of course, he can lose weight any time he wants...and now is BP is going down too. He is getting healthier, and I am going the other way, as for most of my life I have been a "health-food nut"...now I will eat those greasy potato chips and even watch TV, which I rarely did before I was married. I do enjoy the car races, though, as I use to race stock cars in the late 50's in high school...nothing special, but fun. I enjoyed doing things instead of watching people doing things on TV...LOL! Now I probably will not travel the world, or even the country, so I love to watch Globe Trekker, and of course, gardening shows, though we have neither cable or sattelite, just antenna.

Dave ~ You are remodeling your house...are you getting ready to sell it? That will be a lot of work with all of your greenhouse projects as well. Yes, keep us posted.

This is the hydrangea...

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
1:02 PM

Post #8011319

JB ... I forgot to ask ... how are the fir trees doing?

Even though I live less than 2o miles from you, we have very different soil ... yours is sandy while I have to contend with clay ... I think the clay is a result of living relatively close to the river.

LOL regarding people who can't remember things ... I am very guilty of that ... especially when it comes to keys!


Dave ... warning ... be prepared for the renovations to take longer than projected.

So is anyone going to enlighten me in regards to co-op?

Mary
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 1, 2010
1:06 PM

Post #8011329

Dave ~ Oh, I forgot to ask you. What kind of ground cover did you decide to put in that walkway that Kim wanted to be done?

Jeanette ~ It is cool here at night, so we open the windows as it has been going down to 50°. At least that is what it is been lately in the mornings, though on the hotter days it only goes down to 60°. I have been a naughty girl as I woke up early, but was worn out from the fair yesterday, so have yet to check on the new garden to see if it survived. I watered it last night when I got home and some things were wilting.

Mary ~ From 74° to 90°! Wow what a difference...kinda' like Jnette's weather, huh?

Well, good luck everyone on your summer weather...oh, fall is on it way. Has anyone started any new seeds or cuttings for fall planting?? Gotta' go now...lots to do.

Evelyn

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
1:17 PM

Post #8011347

grrr ... just lost a post again.

Jeanette ... I just noticed your post stating there is a forum for co-op. I shall check it out ... thanks

Evelyn ...74 was my temperature ... JB lives less than 20 miles away ... it was 83.3 for her in the shade and 90 in the greenhouse. I hope JB is limiting her GH activities.

JB ... maybe you should use some of those polymer crystals in a sweat band or a tie for around your neck ...you need to stay COOL.

Mary
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 1, 2010
1:17 PM

Post #8011348

Mary ~ Jnette told you about going to the coops forum...sorry, have you already done that? That is where they are and the place to inquire about them...maybe someone else can tell her more about them...

I had better go before I get myself into trouble as I have been at this computer...waaaaaaaaayyy too long!!

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 1, 2010
2:02 PM

Post #8011426

Mary, the firs may not come back but we are hopeful. We pulled out the smaller ones because they were completely gone. It is getting very dry just now. We were to have some rain today and it did nothing but spit a few drops.
I am not a coop person Mary so I can not help you with that. Sorry. I do not understand how they work and am too darn busy to look it up.
When I worked at Perretti's Standardbred Farm in Cream Ridge they used to say the red clay soil was difficult to grow good grazing grass for the mares. But, it is great for potato farming. That is what the farm was before the made it into a horse farm. LOL
Thanks for your concern. Where exactly is Morrisville? What bridge do you cross to get to your house? You are West , not North towards Trenton, right? You said you go to Cherry Hill. The closest I get to that is Mt. Holly...my doctor is there.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
2:13 PM

Post #8011451

Mary, I was just going to ask you the same thing. Did you read about the coops like I told you this a.m.? Ok, once you have read that, we should be able to answer any questions you might have. So, ask away.

Evelyn, do you mean your Endless Summer blooms on new wood? Mine doesn't. Mine have winter killed back to the ground both the last two winters and did not bloom last summer or this summer. I wonder why that is. Mine bloomed blue when I first got it. So, yours is blooming pink huh? Well, at least you know what to do with it.

JB, Mary's suggestion on the sweatbands of polymer was a good one. There is a group making those and sending to the military in Afghanastan. Guess they are very much appreciated.

I forgot the measurements to make them. Sounds like a good idea for myself. Maybe I will make some too. Sure, right. I can't even get other projects done that I have started.

Guess I had better go make some hummingbird food.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 1, 2010
2:21 PM

Post #8011470

Janette I wish I had sandy soil, but I have pure clay, hard pan and Caleche, that I am always amending. When I have a lot of moisture crystals in the containers it keeps them watered through the heat and lack of water in the summer. I don't often use them in ground except where my new trasplants go in ground, so they can make it with the little roots in the heat of the day and when my inadequate system busts a crack in it and I don't notice for a few days.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
3:46 PM

Post #8011647

JB, correct me if I am wrong ... I thought you said you have sandy soil. Please do not be upset with me but I could not help but laugh out loud when I read your description of the rain you received. we got a wee bit more ... but not much more ...it seems mother nature is mocking us.

On my last trip outside I met a praying matis upon opening the back storm door. I said "Mr Mantis I am giving you immediate orders ... go to JB ... she lives in Wrightstown, NJ ... it is that away ... she needs your help much more than I."

So sorry to hear the bad news about the fir trees. How you can sustain such a good sense of humor is beyond me.

Morrisville is west of Trenton, NJ. There are 3 bridges that directly connect between Morrisville and Trenton. One is the US rt 1 toll (75 cents toll from NJ to PA) ... I always wondered why when you crossed a toll from NJ to anywhere else you always have to pay ... and there is no toll that i know of going into NJ anywhere.

One of the non toll bridges is closed for repairs until Sept. The other non toll brige is right next to the toll bridge. Most non-locals are not aware of its existence. As a result it takes longer to go over the toll bridge because of traffic ... even at non peak times. Most locals only use the toll bridge to go into NJ from PA.

I decided to take a picture of the Elephant Ear plant today ... I know why my daughter insisted that I grow it and not her ... it likes a lot of water (1 to 2 gallons a day) and my daughter has neglectful watering habits.

Mary

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evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 1, 2010
4:12 PM

Post #8011688

Jnette ~ If only we could even fulfill our own to do lists, huh? I am going outside to take a picture of the new "Cottage Garden" bed...I'll be back either this evening or tomorrow A.M. Maybe better at night, when I have my work done...today was a disaster.

You can see from this picture how dry the ground is now. My garden beds are better, but I need to keep after them...

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 1, 2010
5:53 PM

Post #8011916

Dawn, have you tried lime? I am sure you must have. That is what I have heard to use for the type of soil you have. No, I don't think you would like sandy any better. I put composts and manures in mine and the next year all there is is sand. I don't know where it goes. I put a dozen bags of each, manure, compost, and a potting soil one year in a strip about 12 feet long by maybe 3 feet wide. I planted thornless blackberries in it. The next spring, all but one plant were gone, the last one was there, but missing the roots, and I thought some kind of vole. Or maybe deer. Anyway, all that was left was sand. I wanted to plant something else in there, but there was nothing but sand. Now you tell me where it all went.

I don't put any of my ground soil in containers. I only put stuff I buy in them. But, I do put the crystals in them. But, only as much as I can scoop in my hand. And that is hydrated.

If I needed any I would try to find someone to do a coop on them. But, if I asked someone to do it and didn't order any I would look awfully silly. I posted the names of some people that might agree to do a coop.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
6:21 PM

Post #8011967

Wow, it took me an hour just to read today posts. You all are very talkative today. Daughter-in-Law Hesther and family are at BBQ so it is quiet. When she and the children are here, then my daughter and her 5 are here. So much for my very quiet home. I have done little gardening with this family visit but I do have my ez clone, 30 slots, full of cuttings. I received a large shipment of irises yesterday. So I have to spend a few hours making markers and then on Wednesday, every one will be gone by then, plant about 100 irises. The beds are ready because of the help of the landscape mow and blow guys digging and placing 5 different gardening areas. I will take before and after photos.

I have half of my worms moved into a new container and tomorrow I will complete the second one.

With the box of irises I got from Dee, irislover, in Oregon, I got a cigar box with a bunch of iris seeds. I am so excited because I love to try anything different. It is time like this I wish I was 40 instead of close to 68. But when I was 40 I had very little money so I guess I will stay where I am now.

Evelyn, when are you 69. Maybe we should celebrate together. Mine is on August 4, my son on August 5th. He was born 1 day after my 21st birthday. Right after that the birth control pill came out and no more children except our Schnauzers.

DH is much better. Last Tuesday and Wednesday was very scary. I thought he was dying but it was the Oxi pain pills. They actually shut down his whole system with just one per day. Now he is on a must weaker pain medicine that is helping him with his broken rib. He actually got out of bed yesterday at 10am and today at 8:30am. He had been getting out of bed around noon. He does not sleep well until around 3am. I went to bed at 9pm and slept all night. That felt wonderful.

Evelyn your menu sounds very boring. You can still eat healthy and not eat such bland food. Tell me what you like and I will give you some ideas on d-mail.

We just broke a record in Las Vegas. Every day in July was over 100 degrees.

Dave, I remodeled my old home before we built this home. It started with the upstairs master bedroom and making two bedroom i to one large great room upstairs. That was the original plan and then it moved down stairs and a complete remodel of the kitchen. Renovation of them pool decking and pool. It looked beautiful when it was completed but 3 years later we decided to move. The neighborhood was not going anywhere but down. We sold it at the top of the market. But it did take longer than expected to finish the remodel. It was 3700 sq ft with 3 bedrooms and two great rooms. One upstairs and one down. We had no intention to ever move. We had paid off the home and were ready to plant our feet but now we are here with the same plans. This home has the master bedroom down stairs and that is much better. But now the house is larger with 3 bedrooms and an office. I actually have empty drawers because I made sure I had plenty of storage.

Welcome Merrymath. I did not enjoy math when I was in school and only went through high school. BUT, in my career, I used algebra the majority of the time.

JB, you can order lady bugs and praying mantis on line. We ordered some for the greenhouse just the other day because it is full of aphids. We planted Persian cucumbers and heirloom tomatoes. They are growing rapidly. We pray our timing is correct because it will starting cooling down toward the end of August and we need them in the first stage of blooms at that time. We are planting corn outside the greenhouse in very large about 2.5 feet tall cement pots that were used in the landscape of the office building next door. They were no longer using them. We had to raise the corn so the rabbits would not eat the new sprouts. Remember, this greenhouse is on the golf course. The family of the young man I am mentoring in gardening, own the office building, golf course and greenhouse. Actually they own many. They are trying to sell their home and move up west in the Red Rock Area. they have 5 acres. They want me to consult with the vegetable/fruit garden area. Their home is 12,000 square feet, so is not easy to sell. It is also on an acre.

The new property has two wells so that would be wonderful.

Still have not dug anything to send because they would fry before they left town. Probably end of August, first of September. Probably about the time Evelyn will get snow. LOL.
I will be back to normal, as normal as I can be, on Wednesday. Take care and love you all.

Sydney, I do not know you but if these folks do, then you are OK in my book..
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
6:45 PM

Post #8012012

Jnette, when I have a problem area like yours where the soil and plants disappears, I use very low 42" wide planters. They are 36" inches deep. I get them at Lowes for $149. They are fiberglass. They come in an off yellow and I paint them the color I want, which is mainly coffee brown. They have been on sale for $72 but not recently. I use them under trees or any place I have tree root problems. I have actually placed them on a slant in some neighbors landscape.

First photo are new pots I placed up the driveway, with help of laborers, about 10 days ago. First photo is before painting and before placed into large hole in ground to make pot level with driveway.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
6:47 PM

Post #8012019

Photo of large pot lower in the ground and painted brown.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
6:53 PM

Post #8012039

Photo of large pot painted gray and angled. This is a neighbors landscape. I changed this landscape, with many laborers and her husband's platinum American Express card in three days. Her father had died unexpectedly and the memorial was held at their home.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
6:55 PM

Post #8012046

This last photo is a dirt area that was right in the middle of the patio. Nothing there but bad dirt and dog toys. Same property and same day. Instant garden.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
7:17 PM

Post #8012097

These are photos of my EZ Cloner per the request of Dave and jnette.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
7:18 PM

Post #8012103

Side view.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 1, 2010
7:20 PM

Post #8012106

Inside sprayers.

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 1, 2010
10:48 PM

Post #8012459

Ok Sharon i am sold send me one...lol... so really where do I find the best price. I need a toy for the winter months. I would hate to try cross stitch again...
yes we are remodeling and we have no plans to move for a very long time. I am stuck in tulsa while my parents are still alive. they are celibrating their 48th wedding aniversary next month or is it august already? we bought new furniture this last week also. I am sooooo ready for the 60" hd tv 1080p 120+htz refresh is killer at those speeds. Kim did about have a fit when the homedepot guy told her that the 300 dollar floor was actually going to be closer to $1000.00. she thought we just needed 3 boxes ...nope it was 10 boxes...lol oh well looks like we will be on concrete floors for a bit.
we are not doing the marathon remodel like we did back in 03 we were finished in 07 and sold it. Kim bought the condo thinking she would be a single lady and quietly eek out her lkife quietly...yea right ... the whole cotten pickin family moved in...
I took before pics when we moved in. we just ordered our new front doors very cool with beveled glass.
We are known for our clay. remember we were known for our sod houses "sod busters". A good drought tolerant grass is bermuda... we have it and some fescue in the shade. the poor fescue is trying to die...
Ok who has the endless summer hydrangia? I need some for mom. I really hate to go pay the what 20 or 30.00 for a nice plant at the local no kill nursery (lol) she is insistant that she gets some. of course she will plants stuff in the spring and do well untill it gets above 80 and then its on its own. I don't know why. she does manage to grow african violets though. I think I am upto 4 kinds of hydrangea, 3 double rose of sharon, a couple of yews and a few wiegelia and a named variety of boxwood so its no more buxus spp. now it will be wintergreen boxwood or Korean boxwood. Of course I need to get rid of my liners and gallon plants for cutting stock. I need to stop and get my head wraped arround the plants I got in as cutting stock. I am trying to get to where I have everyone named so its not a huge ???? I really wonder if its all a conspiracy to have the "right" type of box wood or hydragea or spirea.
The magical walkway is still pebbles and stepping stones. I am not sure if it will get planted or not I will need a bluezillion to cover the 100+ feet of walk.
I am sowing seeds and doing cuttings. every day I try to get 1 thing done. friday it was a nap ... phone would not allow me to. I planted some dianthus, corriopsis, ox-eye daisy, alaska shasta's, and a few others. My scull cap is finally ready to come out off the mist. so is the little blue flowered thingy ma bob ground cover. I just got in my seed order last thursday. penstemon, another variety of scullcap, 3 kinds of grass and a few other things. I will tell you they aint no 99 cents a packet of seeds either.
oh well enough whaaa whaaa whaaa for nor I think I will scuffle off to bed and try to sleep. Tomorrow's goal is to do the cuttings from my gold mound spirea's. I think I have about 100 of the Spiraea japonica 'Shirobana' or pepermint spirea rooted and ready to come out to harden off.
Oh yea I need to take pics of the monsterous bench I built and had to shoe horn into the greenhouse. Its still a work in progress though. I just increased bench space by 15 trays so now its 40 trays a turn, I just need to clone my self so I can box and ship. hey will that daisy cloner clone me?????
pic is scullcap - scutellaria spp

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avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

August 2, 2010
4:49 AM

Post #8012626

Sharon, that instant patio circle is beautiful!! Wish I had design ability like that!
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
5:44 AM

Post #8012710

Sharon, thanks for postngi all those pictures. Awesome creations.

I would participate in a co-op for polymer if and when there is one. I am trying to learn slowly about the co-ops by following new posts on that forum.

JB ... do you still have that easter egg plant?

Mary

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 2, 2010
6:26 AM

Post #8012791

Mary, I think they are all dead. I have seeds if you want some. But, the plants are shot. I am lucky if I can get one to survive for my own pleasure and more seeds. I need to look at them today. Off to town. Later. JB
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
6:37 AM

Post #8012819

wow we are up way to early. oh well so am I. its cutting time. Gold mound spirea 50 to 100 cells.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
6:43 AM

Post #8012830

mary you had asked about co-ops: 1st a warning then a go for broke. Be sure who you are dealing with and everything is spelled out. check feedback on the host/hostess. also know what you will recieve for how much and the cost to ship the item to you. Most are good hard working people like us here but there is the odd idiot that ruins it for the rest. its like trading know who and what and are you willing to take a chance? ask us we might know who is running the co-op. I have had some great deals and i have also regreted a couple. mostly my fault for getting involved.
read read read
please let us know what you find as I don't have the time to keep up on the co-ops
Dave
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
7:13 AM

Post #8012896

Dave, I woukd never participate in a co-op without first contacting this thread. I am just watching the co-op forum ... I will post anything that could be of interest.

JB you have d-mail.

Mary
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 2, 2010
10:59 AM

Post #8013386

Mary, Dave is right, but I have joined a lot of coops, gotten some really good prices, and only been stung once and that was because too many people wanted in on it and the hostess could not handle it. She/he did not have enough help.

Since then Admin has rewritten the rules to hopefully keep that and other things from happening again, but they cannot cover everything and because members do like the coops and want them, sometimes I think the "committee" who is suppose to keep watch over them relaxes their own rules and then we get another bad one.

So therefore, like Dave said, we have to take care of ourselves.

Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
2:44 PM

Post #8013927

Mary I am sure you follow the inner voice. we just hate to see our people get hurt or even come close to it... we gets a wittle bit klazy ...

"here'ssssss Johnny'" lol

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 2, 2010
3:29 PM

Post #8013998

Pretty boy.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
4:29 PM

Post #8014100

It was a fairly pleasant day to work outside. Presently it is cloudy and looks like rain ... but guess what ... are you listening JB ... RAIN IS NOT IN THE FORECAST!

No sign of Mr Mantis today ... is he on his way to JB's?

In the middle of June I planted 2 very neglected cantolop seedlings. They have had prolific growth and lots of blossoms.

For the most part the most promising stary of a fruit is in this picture.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
4:32 PM

Post #8014108

Then today I discovered this one. at first I thought I had spotted some brown leaves on the lop plants.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 2, 2010
4:34 PM

Post #8014112

Yesterday, my grandson finally poured some more concrete into the forms. Here is a picture of the progress.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 2, 2010
5:21 PM

Post #8014201

He is doing a good job Mary. Looks nice. How thick is he pouring them?
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 2, 2010
9:07 PM

Post #8014687

Well the grandchildren and their mother are heading back to Spokane in the morning. It has been a great visit and I have a list of gardening to start on Wednesday. DH is feeling much better. The Oxicodene (spelling wrong) just about killed him. Shut his complete body function down and after he quit taking it it took 5 days for him to return to normal. He actually has color in his face today instead of that gray/yellow look.

Our morning are now beautiful. In the 80's with a small breeze. Our highs are in low hundreds and it actually feels cooler.

This is a photo of one of my Hardy Hibiscus now in bloom. They grow in -4 to 100. I have them in partial shade.

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sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 3, 2010
6:06 AM

Post #8015055

Morning,
I have Watersorb powder, and have yet to use it. You can take hydrated crystals and press them thru a wire strainer and get about the same thing as powder would make.
On an edition of the Gardner's Diary they featured an Atlanta yard with 100s of Hydrangeas in it.
The garden tender of some 30 yrs said she really found a great change when she replanted her Hydrangeas with polymer crystals. They have southern red clay and it's hotter there in the summer than it is in Jax.
Jnette is correct about the use of these crystals and sand. Molly Mc said when she was digging up things planted with the WCs that she found no jelly left. I imagine the weight of the plant just forces the crystals thru the sand like the wire strainer. Now, when I plant in the sand I put a layer or two of newspaper in the bottom of the hole.
Lahsalover (sp?) ran the last co-op I saw and might still have some left over.
The biggest detriment to my plants not getting water is the blasted no soil mix the plants are growing in when I buy them. Once all that dern spangum moss gets dry, nothing short of soaking the whole pot in a bucket of water will save it.
You nice folks are very prolific here and I started this reply 3 days ago.
LOL.
Here is this years losing weight history;
In Jan., 2010 I weighed 172. This morning I weighed 149.
Here is how I did it.
When I want a snack I reach for plain almonds and fresh fruit, mostly strawberries.
I also watch my salt and refined sugar intake.
Only eat WM's 9 grain bread and little of that.
In place of sodas I started making fresh squeezed limeade using Splenda in place of sugar.
Let myself have 1 serving of anything.
Use olive oil based margarine, salad dressing, & mayo.
I also have been purchasing frozen steamer meals.
Sometimes that's all the sodium I consume in a day, sodium is usually 30% of the RDA.
In a way I do like the Nutri-system and when my meal is gone I don't have left-overs to go back to for seconds.
I buy potato chips in a box holding 50 pkgs. I only eat one pkg at a time. I also give about half the box to my DS so they don't go stale.
Do check the expiration date on those boxes as they can expire too soon. (Sam's, Costco, etc comes to less than 20 cents each)
I go to several bring food meetings and when I want something decadent I fix it right before one of those. Then I take it to the meeting. I have some there, and maybe bring one serving home.
The rest I give to folks who want it.
I keep 100 calories or less ice cream bars and will stave off hunger with one of those. They also have the cream/dairy that soothes anyone.
At this time I have Rainier and Bing cherries, limes, peaches, and apricots in the refrigerator.
Sidney
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
8:33 AM

Post #8015340

Sidney you have a lot of will power. What are steamer meals? Pardon me, but they sound gross.

But you have done great. 23 # in that many months is slow enough that they won't come back in a loooooooong time. How much are you trying to lose? What do you do for the fresh fruit in the winter? Do you freeze any? But then down there in FL I suppose you guys have fresh fruit of a lot of kinds almost year round?

Also, out of curiosity, are you still working or did you retire?
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
8:43 AM

Post #8015374

Nice picture Sharon.

Beautiful day here. But still no rain. Weather people are covering their you know what and only saying CHANCE OF THUNDER SHOWERS ... they will not even say storm.

My daughter was suppose to visit today ... but she called and cancel because of a problem with her next door (unfriendly) neighbor(s). There is presently an extremely ugly wire fence between the two properties.

When a good friend called and said they could $40 of 8' high stocade fence for $5 a section, they jumped at the opportunity ... only problem there was they had to resort to renting a truck ($100) to transport the fencing materials.

The present fence is on my daughters property ... they went to find out what permits were needed ... no permit needed to take down the fence ... need a permit to put up fence.

Her next door neighbor has veggies planted all along the ugly fence and is resisting moving them ... over 1 ft of my daughters property is occupied by his vegetation.

My daughter believes the previous owners of her property moved because of these neighbors ... the previous owners relocated only 2 blocks away.

I will either visit my daughter tomorrow or Thursday.

I am schedule to have cateract surgery on right eye on Thursday, Aug 19th.

Mary



Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
10:41 AM

Post #8015652

Hi All
Congrats Sidney on the weight loss. I know how hard it can be I have about 40 pounds to loose myself.
Mary I know this suggestion will really chap the neighbors behind but I would make sure the property lines are correctly marked and then tell the guy either move em or loose em as you plan to spray down the line to remove any vegitation that may hinder the fences installation with say 30 day certified notice or with a witness to say yes she gave him 30 days notice. I believe that by law if its on your property or overhanging the air space above your property you have the rick to trim it away. Please check with someone who is more schooled in the law than I am before you do anything drastic.
Its amazing how a little round up can really ruin a veggie patch. I know it sounds mean but the guy is not leaving much in the way of options. are you going to do the fence yourself or hire it out? It sounds like hireing the job out would be well worth the money just to be able to sit back and watch the entertainment he will give you. As you can see I am big on "its my property and I will do what I want on it as long as I don't break any laws".
I will put you in my prayers for your eye surgery to go well with 100% success.
Slow day today as I am not getting out in the blasted heat.
Stay cool
Dave
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 3, 2010
12:03 PM

Post #8015822

Jnette,
I am not retired yet. I however have not been given a call from the hall in over 16 months. I went ahead and filed for early SS. Its less than a $1,000 a month, but fortunately my house is paid for.
If you shop Sam's or Costco you can get fresh fruit all year. I never eat frozen, but may start as one cup of blue berries a day helps with memory. Frozen blue berries are much cheaper out of season.
I justify the expense out of season by the fact that I could be paying that money to doctors.
Healthy Choice Cafe Steamers are frozen and I try to get them on
sale.($2.50 ea)
They have a 2 pc plastic cooking pkg. The top perforated tray is meat and veggies. The bottom bowl is sauce. You microwave the meal 4 to 5 min. Remove film on top, dump the top basket into the bottom bowl and stir. Ready to eat. This whiskey steak I'm eating now is pretty tasty.
I'm also trying to figure how to make mini e-buckets with the plastic top baskets.
Mary,
Neighbor feuds are the pits. Unfortunately they know where you live and when you are home.
Cataract surgery is the best and the new lens they put in will allow you to read without glasses and doesn't dissipate like Lasic does.
Dave I guess it was you I was telling the weight loss saga to.
As for exercise, I garden and do some walking.
I also suck my tummy in as hard as I can several times each hour and count to 10 or 20. That has kept my tummy flat for 40 years.
Have a great day.
;)
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
12:35 PM

Post #8015893

You have the best thing going for you Sidney. No house payments.

I will have to try the fruit in the winter. I really do not like buying any but local. Most of the stuff we get in the winter comes from Mexico. I got asparagus at Christmas from Peru. I was super hungry for asparagus or I would not have bought it.

Yes Mary, the eye surgery is great. I think you have to make a decision tho before you go in as to which kind of lens you want. Either way you have to wear glasses. Either for close up or distance. I guess their is a new lens that is a trifocal now, but I didn't want it. I didn't want the trifocal glasses so decided I didn't want to take the chance on a lens I couldn't take off. LOL Also, I don't think they have really perfected it's use yet and there are additional surgeries you might have to have with it. Just the info I got from the stuff they gave me to read.
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 3, 2010
1:42 PM

Post #8016044

Jnette,
Our sweet Giant strawberries come from Calif. and the wonderful fat asparagus from peru. Artichokes, I'm not sure. They do fly many things from around the world.
Here in Fl. the strawberries are small and sour.
A large strawberry has 6 calories.
I'm off to Costco.
LOL
;)
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 3, 2010
2:45 PM

Post #8016184

Jeanette ~ This year I am going to establish an asparagus bed...if the darn gophers will keep out...otherwise I will have to devote one of the Square Foot Gardens to it. Maybe I will plant half in there, just to be on the safe side. We eat a lot of asparagus and I might as well plant things that we eat, as it not only saves trips to the grocers, (but eventually), saves money. I think I will try and plant artichokes as well, as we both eat a lot of them as well. I will have to cast a net over the strawberries, as I seem to lose them to the birds. Also the blueberries. And for now, I have frozen bb's in the freezer.

Sydney ~ You should be able to grow just about anything in FL, right? Maybe try to plant some things in the off season. We can grow tomatoes in winter like you can...most years...my son lives in FL. Did I say THAT??We cannot grow tomatoes in winter unless we had a warm GH, which we do not...what was my fingers typing??

Sharon ~ Thanks for all the nice pictures...everyone else, let's see yours, OK? We won't get any snow until December, most likely. Usually late December. Sometimes we have a "White Christmas", but not always. After that it is usually cold until late March...but this year it was unusual...late May! A very short spring - one month is not long enough to do all the spring chores...esp. weeding! I am still doing it! I have, however, started a small "lasagna bed"...no straw or hay, just compost, cardboard, newspapers and chicken manure. (And no, I don't have chickens... I have to buy it in bags.) I may start getting horse manure from a neighbor, but just for composting as I have heard if you put it in your garden beds they are full of weed seeds.

Well, I must go now, as I am at the library and the computer is through with the updates and I have more errands to run, as today was my chiropractor day. Have a great day everyone!

~ Evelyn

I had to edit my comments to Sydney...

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
3:10 PM

Post #8016287

There is a small shopping center within walking distance (less than 1/4 mile) from my house. It has two stores that I frequent ... one is a very large Dollar Tree that has large sliding doors that open automatically. Right next to it a what is known as the FARM STORE. They sell all types of fresh veggies and fruits at prices lower than the supermarket chains. They also sell fresh seafood and some dairy products such as milk and cheese.

They are sending me literature regarding the eye surgery. I will not know what time the surgery is until the day before. Hopefully it will be in the morning as my daughter just informed me that she has a "Popsicycle Party" from 5 pm to 7 pm scheduled for the day they have scheduled the surgery. The party is for parents to have their children investigate the pre-k classroom.

My daughter, Lisa, just discovered that the majority (if not all) of the neighborhood have problems with this one neighbor. The neighbors in the rear are estactic that a new fence is going up between the properties.

They have torn down and trashed the old fencing. Last night they put up a line for where the new fencing would be. Well the PITA (Pain In The ?) neighbor moved it (TWICE).

Mr. PITA is finally moving his plants. Only because my daughter informed him that the zoning personnel said she had the right to pull up anything that was on her property.

Sidney ... how many calories are there in other fruits? Blueberries ... Bannanas Watermelon Cantalope Oranges ... I think I better stop ... Love Ya All

Mary

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 3, 2010
3:25 PM

Post #8016328

Mary where are you going for your eye surgery? Did you see that weather forecast?
I spent the day unfortunately, inside working on bank statements, etc. I still need to put the expenses for July on the computer and then I am finished for the month. I need to get going again with plants...two months with no selling is not good but it looks like we have another hot one coming up. I moved your black PW to the floor of the greenhouse and hopefully I can keep enough alive to send you all your little babies.
My SIL checked the red maple tonight and he said he thinks they will make it. We are irrigating again, started this morning. Did the Pussy Willows, Iris, Holly ( variagated and regular) and peonies...they are really dry again. Tomorrow the veggies that did not die get a drink...tomatoes and peppers are all that is left, then the red maple get it Thurs. We do need rain.
I spent almost a month working with sick people and it really took its toll on me. I am not as patient as I once was. I wish I could cuss on here. I need to. LOL
Hey Jenette...love you.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
3:29 PM

Post #8016338

EKKS! Chiropractor!

The only time I have ever been to one was after a bad car accident many years ago. I dreaded those sessions. I finally convince the doctor to send me to physical therapy ... that I liked. My spinal column was so messed up the only way I was able to work was with a TENS unit.

Two summers ago (when all the exterior renovations were goin on) my syadic nerve went hay wire on me. Just touching my right foot to the floor sent horrific shooting pain up my leg. I had to crawl to the bathroom. As the day wore on the problem would subside.

I ordered myself an inversion table ... 15 minute sessions twice a day and in 2 weeks the problem was gone. The only problem is the inversion table I have is difficult for me to pull the lock and then to unlock. I saw one that is just as good and for the same price that has done away with this problem for pld weak folks like me.

Mary
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
3:43 PM

Post #8016361

Whew ... nice to hear from you JB. I get concern that you may at times be pushing yourself too hard. Mother Nature is teasing us ... why do the weather forecasters get our hopes up by saying watch for POSSIBLE rain showers or storms. What the heck do they think we were doing? NOT WATCHING??

My primary care physician referred me to Total Eye Care. A doctor Stein will do the surgery. I do not know where ... all that info will be in the literature and papers they are sending me.

I think it is OK to say PITA

Mary
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
6:01 PM

Post #8016667

All is well. Todd's family left today to go back to Spokane. Housekeepers will be here tomorrow. That timing was on purpose. I took off the lid of the EZ Cloner and something has put out a very large root. I will take it out and pot a little later. I will take a photo before I pot it.

I am in charge of caring for the cat next door. They are on another trip. They will be gone until next Thursday. I will take a photo of this cat. It was left at a Vet's office 11 years ago when it was a kitten and he called my neighbors and asked if they wanted it. It is a great cat. Very friendly, and should be in a Harry Potter movie.

I designed the new pot at the entrance of our area and the owner of the landscape company came by to tell me how great it looked and again offered me a job. I told him I did not want to get up early to go to work. He told me I could name my own hours. It would be fun designing but it is still working. But I am thinking about it. I have not told DH because he would not like it.

I am going to be spending the next two days planting irises. To early but have no other option.

I have had sciatic before and I have total sympathy. What a burning pain that just does not stop. I had a tummy tuck and mine went away. My mother had it, my brother and daughter have it. My daughter is very slender. My mother was not and neither is my brother. My brother one year younger than me is having surgery again today. They found cancer again in his bladder. He has already had one kidney removed because of cancer. He had the first cancer removed from his bladder in March. They are keeping a real close eye on it. It is like scraping off a polyp if you catch it fast enough. Say a prayer for him.

Sydney, great job on the weight loss. Sounds like a good menu. Elevlyn needs to spice up her plate. She is such a lovely lady eating boring food. I love blue berries in Greek yogurt.

I can see Jnette sitting on that wonderful deck, drinking a wonderful cup of something hot and just taking in her world. My back garden, under the feeder for the small birds is just packed with half grown quail and their parents. Today I counted 12 babies and 3 parents. Photo attached I took yesterday. They are in the shade of the African Sumac, which has finally stopped shedding. They are standing on the pony wall to hold the wrought iron fence for the greenbelt area. You can see their furl on their head in the shadow.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
6:05 PM

Post #8016675

This is a photo of the group, mostly children. I cannot get closer because they are really jumpy. I have a great lens but this is the best I can do. Tomorrow I am going to try from the back garden upstairs patio.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
6:08 PM

Post #8016683

The dirt they are eating on is suppose to be pink crushed granite. As you can see it is mostly black from the bird seed. In my younger years that would have driven me crazy but I love the birds so much, I do not even see it.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
6:54 PM

Post #8016786

Sharon did I tell you about the little hummingbird that came in the house the other day? I might have so I will just quickly tell the rest of you. My ceilings, are A frame so 28 feet high with windows and of course that is where it was flying so we couldn't get it. I thought it had died but then the next day I saw it up there.

I went out and got a hummer feeder and brought it in. The little guy took one look at it and flew right down and sat down to eat. I had it in my hands so I just walked it and the bird out the door.

Yes, we do enjoy the decks, but I am getting so many plants out there and the summer is so short to enjoy them. I love the quail Sharon. We have grouse above the house on the mountain and can hear them. Also, we have wild turkeys that fly off the granite rocks next to the driveway.

Sidney, I think the thing that bothers me most about buying the imported fruits & vegetables is that we don't know how they are grown. When we get ecoli off of things grown in our own country, as tightly as our agriculture laws are, how do we know about others.

LOL, JB, I thought you were a nurse in the marines. WHAT? You weren't? Sure glad of that. LOL, love you too. Now quit that cussin'. You're going to get us thrown off here. They can read your mind when it's that loud.

Oh wow, Bob just reminded me that the rain barrels were full. I don't know why he hasn't had the spigots open. I placed the hoses right where I wanted the water to go and didn't know he had them closed. I will have to go out tomorrow and make sure where the water goes. This afternoon I was on the phone in the middle of programming a phone for his mom and all of a sudden the skies just opened up and the loudest boom of thunder and lightening right on the house. As solid as this house is, it shook. So we had a down pour. Bet the rain barrels ran over. Darn!!

Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 3, 2010
7:28 PM

Post #8016877

Is thar a mouse in the corner???? very cool...
Mary my wife is an accountant and her eye dr said to make sure they map the eye when doing one surgery not sure which cause I have pretty good vision except for reading I started to go into a joke but thought it would not be apropriate as eye surgery is a big thing.
verry cool pics. I can only hope that my back yard reaches the escape level I want it to be.
More in the am as its way past nighty night time.
Dave
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 3, 2010
7:29 PM

Post #8016880

Jnette,
I cook my asparagus until it's soft. A friend told me years ago that the fatter the stalks the more gourmet it was, so I don't buy skinny stalks anymore.
on any given day we can all be attacked by 'booger bugs' so I just use reasonable caution and don't worry about ecoli or others.
I give more thought to trying to use the powder Watersorb without inhaling any of that dust. Same with Sevin and other powder garden chemicals.
I also believe that there are inspections by US Ag on thing brought in from other countries. I also believe big companies like Costco are conscientious about what they sell and where and how it's grown and handled.
I wash Wa cherries before I eat them though.
;)
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
8:00 PM

Post #8016948

Sidney, why do you cook the BJ----- out of them? I just put a little oil, salt and pepper on mine, sometimes some grated Parmesan, sometimes Italian dressing, and roast them. Wonderful. Why are you steaming everything?

I agree, you should wash everything first. They normally are sprayed. I don't think the Ag, or Costco goes out to foreign farms and looks at the growing. They probably randomly test on import. They don't even have enough inspectors to look at everything in this country.

Dave, I can't find a mouse in the picture. What picture are you looking at?
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
8:35 PM

Post #8016995

Well I was mistaken. Only two cuttings had roots. One was a plant I forgot I also added. An ivy a friend gave me and I had no room so had to double up. The leaf is gray green with a purple outline. I will take photo soon. Anyway I took photo of Hardy hibiscus. I broke Creeping Charlie when I was taking it out of the plug. Now is back in the EZ Cloner. Photo Attached.

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WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
8:37 PM

Post #8017000

Sorry Grandma had to give you an updated photo of Luke and Natalie.

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
9:03 PM

Post #8017025

The kiddies are darling Sharon. Bet that little girl lis a lot of help with Luke.

Not a clue on the plant. It is hard to see. Well rooted though.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 3, 2010
9:17 PM

Post #8017040

It is a Hardy Hibiscus. Sorry the photo was blurry. just like my eyes. I need to get to bed early. I quit drinking Pepsi yesterday and today I had a crushing headache. Actually laid down and took a nap.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 3, 2010
9:23 PM

Post #8017049

You are having withdrawals, huh? Caffeine? Now I know where you got all your energy. Maybe that would help me. Nope, just have jittery nerves.
avianut
Omaha, NE
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
4:40 AM

Post #8017308

OK Sugarweed, you have talked me in to it.I will start my diet today. I keep saying 'tomorrow', and before you know it it will be winter and much harder to get decent exercise.

So, anyway, when's the best time to transplant iris?

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 4, 2010
6:45 AM

Post #8017495

A woman who grows Iris to sell told me you can transplant Iris 6 weeks after it has finished blooming. I would guess now is as good a time as any. I am not an Iris Expert.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 4, 2010
6:55 AM

Post #8017519

I want you to see what "nap time " looks like at this farm. These are the kittens I rescued and had nuetered. The father of the twins is missing on this one. Oh yes, I hate cats.

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JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 4, 2010
7:05 AM

Post #8017545

Here is another of the twins and their mother. They are all so playful. But on here they are waiting for Barney and me to come out the door. Every afternoon I walk the dog, these cats wait for us to come out the door and follow us all over the farm on our walk. I feel like the pied piper lol. It really looks funny, walking a dog and four or five cats running after you. My life is never normal.

Speaking of birds, in order to raise any sort of sport bird, we need a special permit here in NJ. I wanted to do quail and pheasants at one point and after I saw what we had to go through to have a game bird farm I gave up. I adore them.

It is again in the 90s with humidity so high you can hardly breathe. I guess I will give the dog a bath after lunch , clean bird cages and go down to the base (Mcguire AFB) to pick up some groceries and wine. It is just too hot to begin repotting for fall. I can not take this humidity, it makes me sick.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 4, 2010
7:18 AM

Post #8017578

Nice pictures JB. How about a picture of barney? How is he doing?

"Have you ever noticed? Anybody going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac." -George Carlin

I shall be visiting my daughter today... will give an update on the new fence when I return.

Mary


merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 4, 2010
7:56 AM

Post #8017673

A Riddle:

There was a green house.
Inside the green house there was a white house
Inside the white house there was a red house.
Inside the red house there were lots of babies.

What am I?
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 4, 2010
8:07 AM

Post #8017691

ARE YOU GRANDMA??? MARY
jeanette - I was refering to sharon's second pic in the lower rt corner...
Asparagus vs moles and other nasty critters - I would try building a cage out of chicken wire or some othe metal screen and bury the new roots inside the box. it should allow you to get the crop going without any critters getting a free tasty dinner. Just a thought

Not much going on today. its all about moving stuff to get ready to raise the floor in the living room. the dining room is ready for hardwood. Kim is so antsy its not funny, its going to be a rough rehab I just hope I get parole after a few years...lol

Stay cool everyone
Dave
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
8:49 AM

Post #8017778

JB, I love the cats, and I'm not even a cat person. But, I've always liked the black & whites. Been years since I have had one of those. Those pictures are great.

That's what I thought Dave, but I still don't see the mouse. A little bird yes. Know how i know? Mouses have tales. LOL

Don't know Mary, now if you had said black babies I would have said watermelon.

You gotta use something smaller than chicken wire for voles. Moles will come up in the chicken wire that has the larger holes and voles will come up in smaller holes.

Dave why are you raising the living room floor?
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
9:04 AM

Post #8017811

Happy Birthday Sharon!!

Any special plans for the day? Must be something!

Have a good one!
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 4, 2010
9:13 AM

Post #8017828

watermelon is the answer!

Yes Dave, I am a grandma .Did you forget about the grandson that lives with me? I have 2 daughters ... one lives in North Carolina and runs a music business ... my younger daughter lives in Maple Shade, NJ (about a 25 mile drive) Each daughter has 2 daughters and 1 son.

It is hot and humid here. My head is soak with sweat from watering the plants in containers.

JB ... Please try not to be in the greenhouse.


Dave ... keep us posted on renovation progress

Mary
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 4, 2010
9:16 AM

Post #8017832

I did not know it was Sharon's birthday.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARON! ENJOY!!
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 4, 2010
12:39 PM

Post #8018229

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ~ SHARON!! Hope you have a wonderful day!

Evelyn

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 4, 2010
2:21 PM

Post #8018520

Good Grief it was hot and humid today. I did nothing outside or in the greenhouse and I went to lunch with a friend and bought wine and gin. So there. Now I am going to have a bite to eat (very little bite) and watch TV. This weather drains me and I am not doing anything. Will walk later if it cools off. Have a good evening and a very Happy Birthday to Sharon. God Bless JB
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
3:20 PM

Post #8018646

So!! JB, you're a gin & tonic lady! You and Bob would surely get along. I do not like the smell of junipers. Not the plant, nor in a bottle or glass. LOL

That weather saps everyone's energy. Don't know how you can stand the humidity. When it gets hot here it is a dry hot so you don't feel it so much. Sure, you feel it in the direct sun, but not in the shade or in the house etc.

I either go out before noon or wait until around 4 o'clock when the sun goes over the mountain and then I water. Sometimes my brugs are really hanging. Especially when they are in the direct sun. Their leaves are so big they get the sun full bore. But, I can't take them all out of the sun. Not enough room on this side of the deck.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

August 4, 2010
3:31 PM

Post #8018680

Happy Birthday Sharon. Yes I am still lurking around. Been pretty busy with Mom. Not doing so well, won't eat and is now down to 119 # from 170 about 3 months ago. The yard is still just looking at me. Weather has warmed up a bit, but only every so often, then back down in 60's. I am not complaining, but the plants are. All else is going good. Made a cake towel for the bride's shower and it went over pretty well. Will post pictures as soon as I get some if you want to see it. Time to go out and water. See all later. Have a good one, and be healthy all. Lee
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
3:45 PM

Post #8018717

Lee, sure do want to see it. I have never heard of a cake towel. Is that what you said? When is the wedding? i want to see pictures of the dresses too.

Our weather did one of those dipsy doodles last week too., Felt kind of good for a day or so didn't it? However, after what JB and others are going thru I sure can't complain about our weather. Actually, when I think about winter, I love this.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
7:17 PM

Post #8019204

Ok all you ladies with the hand held steam cleaners. I need some input about them. I am going to buy one but I want a good one. Help me.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 4, 2010
7:54 PM

Post #8019267

Dave, that is not a mouse, that is a bear. That is my female Schnauzers toy. It is a Bennie Baby. They make the best dog toys. That one is about 5 years old. I wash them and then she takes them outside. She is 11 and loves to play come and catch me with DH and myself.

Jeanette, they have a new hand held steamer by Sharp that has three attachments. I do not have it, I have an older one but my daughter has it and loves it. Just Google Sharp Steamer and it should be on the home page. I ordered some covers and saw it on the same site.

JB, I love the cat laying on the grass. That cat had an attitude and I love attitude in a cat. My cat is 18 and only likes my DH. I keep threatening I am going to the shelter and get myself a new kitten but have not done it yet.

Had a great birthday. Housekeeper canceled and is not coming until tomorrow. Had yogurt with fresh blueberries, strawberries and kiwi for breakfast.

DH and I went to a late lunch and had soup and salad at Olive Garden. It was all we wanted.

Then went to Costco and purchased our weeks supply of fresh fruit.

The kids came over and received many calls of good wishes.

Thanks for all the warm wishes. I will not be on long this evening because I have a busy day tomorrow planting irises. Later.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
9:45 PM

Post #8019475

Little late with the Sharp info Sharon. I just ordered a Bissell off of Amazon. If I don't like it I will buy the Sharp. Thanks.

Lunch at the Olive Garden sounds real nice birthday Sharon and it sounds like DH is better. Getting out. Did he go in Costco with you? Now if he did that I would think he is ready for a marathon.

Glad to hear he is better.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 4, 2010
10:31 PM

Post #8019514

Yes, he went to both places and ate like a P** at Olive Garden. That is good because he has not been eating.

I think you will like whatever unit you purchased. All you need is the steam. I got the Shark because they were the first with the unit.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 4, 2010
11:07 PM

Post #8019542

I am hoping it will clean above the backsplash in the kitchen . My shoulders are so bad from arthritis that I can't reach that far for very long so maybe this will help.

Maybe it is your cooking Sharon. LOL, just kidding. It was just being out around all of that good smell in the OG that made your husband eat so good. That is good. I think a good appetite is a sign that you are pretty ok.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 5, 2010
7:05 AM

Post #8019948

Here is Mr. Big...the attitude cat...what a lover he is but I hate having to be nice to him. He is always with me when I am outside. He and Barney give each other kissies, it is so funny. He sleeps on my deck lounge and just outside the doggie door because the AC goes out the door. Cats are not dumb.
LOL

Today is pot washing day so off I go to soak the pots in bleach. 993 deg and humid today.

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darkmoondreamer
(Karen) Frankston, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 5, 2010
8:13 AM

Post #8020094

Hello all! My name is Karen, from Texas. I stopped by because I've been haunting Sharon, I'm also getting an EZ Clone machine and am asking her advice..I also wanted to say hello to my dear friend JBerger, if she remembers me from the long ago "hotties" group on the Brug forum...JB, it's almost Christmas tree farm time, isn't it? The months are going by so fast. It is 115 heat index here each day for weeks, and I'm about to give up the ghost on outdoor gardening...no amount of water is really keeping the plants alive, they are all wanting to turn brown and die back for the year.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
9:03 AM

Post #8020204

Welcome Karen. I am a recent newbie (less than a month ... I think) to this thread. I have learn so much. Very friendly and sometimes quite funny participants.

I live less than 20 miles from JB. Mother nature has not been to cooperative with her this year. I believe she lost all of the baby fir trees they planted this year.

It is another hot, muggy and RAINLESS day here. I hust finnished watering plants outback and my head is soaked from pirspiration.

I did visit my daughter Lisa yesterday. The time in her pool was so refreshing. I did take pictures of the fence project ..i shall post them later (need to take time to transfer them to computer file).

Mr. PITA, who is always in his garden was nowhere in sight.

Mary
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
10:06 AM

Post #8020346

LOL, JB, wonder if your Mr. Big is the father to my Hobo?? Looks just like her. She really should be a Tramp. We didn't know what sex she was when we named her Hobo 'cause she was a feral. And, boy does she have an attitude. And not dumb either. Bet they are related. She could have come all the way from NJ to Washington State.

Hi Karen, I can believe JB was a Hottie!! She still is. She probably started it. Now I know why she gets us in so much trouble with Admin. She probably got you all closed down.

There must be some plants that can take that heat. Guess that's what cactus are for?

The PITA didn't want his picture taken Mary. Saw you with a camera out there.





Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
10:09 AM

Post #8020356

Hi All
Sharon happy belated birthday so sorry I missed it.
Mary - sorry about forgetting the grand kids its been one of those weeks parttimers disease...its like allshimerz but onle comes and goes. I think its the meds...
well we get a break in the weather and I am down for the day. over did it yesterday taking dowd the wet bar and moving stuff around in the nieces room. she is painting a new color and has new bedding to match.
its a peacefull weekend at the lake this weekend ... I did manage to get a couple of gingers planted in the north bed. I am trying an over wintering experament with them... sorry is my spelling is off I am not totally with it.
welcome Karen from texas ... what part of the lone star state are you in??? I am hopeing to get me a cloner to use in the winter to see how well it does, I just have to save my pennies.
well no much else going on here yet ... just trying to keep everyone alive and well so they can make their way either to a new bed or out the door as sold items. Not pushing the sales to much at the moment as we are just managing to get everyone watered well. the weather man is saying things like chance of possible this and that ... pish posh it aint gonna rain just tease us.
Take care everyone stay coll
Dave

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 5, 2010
10:12 AM

Post #8020364

Hello Karen Honey!
How are you deep in the heart of TX??? It is so nice to have you here. You will enjoy this goofy group because they are mostly in the West and talk when I sleep. I get up and have my coffee reading their activities the night before. But, they seem to catch up with me and they are sooooooo much fun.
I have been moaning and groaning about the weather and we did loose about 25 of the several hundreds of baby Christmas Trees we just put in, but there are others still in the field not sure are they going to die or not. There are some of the older babies, like four years old that after they get that old your money really goes down the drain when they die, and they are looking very burned at this point. There are hundreds of them but only one section looks really brown. The professionals say the sun is so hot and the air is not humid enough to help them. Watering will not do it. We do irrigate but this has to do with the very hot dry air and sun. The very old ones with a deep root system seem to be surviving the intense sun.
I spent the morning putting pots in the tubs to soak. Hundreds of seedlings I never got planted, plus some cuttings that just did not survive the heat of the greenhouse. I watered the greenhouse everyday sometimes three times a day. Always twice for sure, and the humidity kept showing only 16...the intense heat and sun just sucks the water out of the pots. I moved all my bougainvillea to a shady spot today because I only have six left but they were curling up. I had cut them back when they were done blooming so they would get the new growth for next year and they are so dry I gave them a good soaking and put them in the shade. I can not tell you how frustrated I am. I gained weight just sitting on my butt waiting for it to cool down so I could work outside. No such luck. This month is just like last month.
Enough of all that stuff, too depressing, what have you been doing, growing, watching die, or whatever it is you do in 115 deg. heat. I think I would turn to drink or something close too it.
This group does mostly the really neat outside garden plants, which of course I have so few, but they put up with me because I am so loveable. Right you guys?????????
Hope you stick around for awhile, who knows what you may learn or help teach us. Stay well my dear friend and give all the old "hotties" my love. My brugs all died. They hated me. I gave 10 babies away and they are growing like weeds...because they are not near me. LOL Later, must try and mow some grass if it is not too hot...which I think it is. Wish it would rain...oh !@##%T%^^#WE%#$@$$ Guess what I said!
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

August 5, 2010
10:48 AM

Post #8020416

Just a short one, Mom is pretty bad today, need to water then get over to her. Thought I would show a picture of a towel cake, and its legal here cuz it has rose petals and flowers in the top. BTW the top is an antique german leaded glass rose bowl. Makes me legal here doesn't it????? A towel cake is made from 2-3 sets of towels, decorated with, you guessed it, lace from that wedding gown that the flower girl dresses came from. Not much left of it.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
11:46 AM

Post #8020512

Nice picture Lee. I hope your mom will feel better soon.

There is a fall lily (plus other bulbs) co-op in progress. Here is some of the latest info


Welcome everyone!! Take your time... we're still in the process of adding to our list of all our wants, and must haves!

Just got off the phone with Andy... This is what we can expect for discounts on the bubs... and I am laying it all down on the line for us to discuss right here on the Interest Thread!
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The coop application is completely new so there will be some bugs to work out going forward.

1. this COOP software is intended to make it easier for everyone. It will set pricing, keep track of orders and update pricing as each member adds to their order.

2. Since this is new software, it will have bugs and everyone's patience and feedback is valued as we continue to improve

3. Through Sunshine, I want to offer the best value for premium-quality bulbs at the lowest price. If we are not the best value, please let me know and I will try to work on a better price.


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HERE IS THE PROPOSED DISCOUNT From the retail price listed in the attached file


over $0 = 50%

over $2500 = 52.5%

over $3000 = 55%

over $4000 = 57.5%

over $5000 = 60%


We also have the following terms


1. 2% collection fee if we collect payment from everyone, or if we get a single payment via any major CC or PAYPAL. There is no collection fee if we are paid with a single check for the entire order.


2. $3.00 per order in the event we split the master order up into each buyers smaller order. Each person will be charged $3.00 to box and pack their order.


3. Shipping based on FEDEX ground home and smart post rates to each buyer from NJ


4. We can split the order and ship to each member with a ship date of one of the following 9/15, 10/15, 11/15

EXAMPLE:

"Lady Alice" Tubland Lilies... 16-18 cm... RETAIL... $2.20... CO-OP ... $1.10 each

"Patricia's Pride" Asiatic Lilies... 14-16 cm... RETAIL...$2.08... CO-OP...$1.04


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There y'all have it!

There is a $3.00 per participant charge if we agree to allow Andy to ship. I balked at this, because under the circumstances, I was afraid y'all would balk! I seriously would be afraid to have that responsibility of dividing and repacking all the bulbs to all of you, and honestly for the $3.00, I know you'd get much better service for that same $3.00 through Andy. Please think about this, and then post your thoughts on this charge.

all the bulbs come in bags of 25... 200... 300... 400 as an example.. WE as the participants in the Co-op have to order a full bag collectively, then that said bag will be divided into our individual orders

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1119588/


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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
12:33 PM

Post #8020619

I saw the coop. Don't want lilies.

So sorry about your mom Lee, Guess all you can do is keep her comfortable and try to keep her happy.

Cute cake. Did you make it?
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
12:46 PM

Post #8020649

Sounds like a nice co-op I just don't have the energy or time to get any. thanks though.

Lee sorry to hear about your mom she is in my prayers. you take as much time as you need we will be here and you and your mom are in our toughts and prayers.

JB: Just a thought and I am sure you have done a lot of things in the business. how about either a soaker hose or the strip of hose with holes in it that spray wayer up into the air? I hate to hear you are looseing trees to this heat.

well its been a slow day today and its way past my nap time so I will chat again later
Dave
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
12:48 PM

Post #8020655

Oh Yea it looks kind of like a diaper cake kim has made or ordered online for baby showers. its a cake made from diapers and toys and essentials are pined to the outer rims of the layers. really cool
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
12:49 PM

Post #8020656

lily co-op not just for lilies

they are asking for what people would order from this site
http://www.sunshineflowerbulbs.com/default.htm_.fallplanting_.mi20.htm


the site recently added to what is available


what can be ordered has to be approved ny co-op committee.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 5, 2010
1:00 PM

Post #8020689

Dave. you are so sweet, we have soaker hose laying on all the rows and we use it both hanging and soaking depending. It is a large field and so we have to irrigate four or five rows at a time. Takes days because we have a well and depending on the lack of rain, etc. even if it is a deep well, you get a little nervous when you use too much. Most of the growers have more or less just accepted that there will be a loss this year due to the extreme heat of the sun and lack of moisture in the air.

Hey Jen, did I tell you praying mantis eat hummingbirds? Tell her Dave.

Lee, Prayers for your Mom and you.

Mowed grass today for nearly two hours. Heat was not too bad, nice breeze but really dusty. It was pretty warm when you were in the sun and out of the wind.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
1:35 PM

Post #8020774

This is my 3rd attempt to post this! GRRRRR!!

Towards the right side of picture there is a line of string that indicates the alignment of new post for daughter’s new fence. A good 12 inches of her property is to the right of string. Building code requires new fencing to be within 3 inches of property boundary. Fencing will be erected on the left side of line … Mr PITA’s property is to the right of line.

This is the first time I have visited my daughter in warm and hot climate conditions that Mr. PITA was not to be seen.

The white pole to the right of the string lines were used to hold a shade canopy used during a recent laua party.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
1:37 PM

Post #8020780

This is the back of her property where new fencing is to be erected.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
1:45 PM

Post #8020803

Requesting adviced regarding cateract surgery,

I posted earlier that it is scheduled for Aug 19th.

Monday I was told that information would be sent.

Mail already arrived today ... no information ... so I called. The girl said since she just returned from vacation she needed time ... this was on Monday!

I was wondering what type of lens if any I needed to consider... She said the doctor only recommended the standard lens. He is suppose to call tommorow to discuss his recommendation.

What am I to think?

Mary

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
3:54 PM

Post #8021073

Mary, I don't know what a standard lens is. You know you can research this on the computer so you know questions to ask him. I can tell you the way mine went. I had cataract surgery last year.

They asked me which way I preferred to wear glasses. For distance or up close to read. Those were the options I got. So, I was to wear glasses when they were done. One way or the other.

This was all spelled out in info they gave me. One last thing that it talked about was the trifocal lens. Just like glasses. But, I understood it to say that that lens was fairly new and may require further surgeries. I don't remember if Medicare (I don't know if you are on that) pays for the trifocal or not, but I believe it will not pay for the further surgeries. Same for lasers I think. I don't know anyone that has had lasers.

That information was the biggest issue for me.

Things to consider when deciding the lens issue besides reading, was driving, I suppose things like hunting, (distance) I am looking around my living room trying to think of things. But, you get the idea.

leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

August 5, 2010
4:06 PM

Post #8021099

Thanks to all for your prayers and well wishes. They have now taken all medications away and will keep her comfortable. All I ask is that she not be in any pain. The towel cake is very similar to the diaper cake. With this one for the bridal shower, the key is to make it look as real as possible. This one sure did, from about 6 ft away you would swear (oops musn't do that ) you needed to cut it and pass slices around. ;) :) Talk to you soon. Lee
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 5, 2010
4:09 PM

Post #8021109

Thanks for the info Jeanette. When did you first start wearing glasses?

I know I hate night driving ... oncoming lights just seem a lot brighter to me in the last few years.

I drove home in the dark last night. and i was saying a lot of prayers during that drive.

JB ... how did you send those seeds? Are they taking a cross country tour? ... Have you seen my Mr. Mantis?

Mary
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
4:55 PM

Post #8021193

JB, get your praying mantis ready 'cause here comes my hummer. He's powering up.


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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
5:08 PM

Post #8021210

Mary,

I first started wearing glasses many years ago. When we first started using computers at work. (the old cathodray tubes) and also that was when the government decided to cut back in the use of power so the building maintenance fellow would come around and put a light meter on our desks and if we had too much light he would take bulbs out of the fixtures over our desks.

I started wearing glasses not long after that. Think it was during the Carter Administration, probably the mid 70s.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 5, 2010
7:19 PM

Post #8021480

Hi guys, just doing a drop in. Hope you are all having fun in the heat.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 5, 2010
7:25 PM

Post #8021503

So Dawn, what are you doing? Of course, we are enjoying the heat.

My water bill was $312 and my power bill was $475. There goes all my spending money. I just had an old friend that has a computer company order a PC for my DH. His is terribly old and very slow. New one should be here next week. He is getting better every day. I am on third day with no Pepsi. Did not have a headache so I guess the worst is over. Water retention is also diminished so maybe it was the sodium in the Pepsi.
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 5, 2010
7:44 PM

Post #8021549

Have been busy working overtime and got a bad UTI a few days ago and have just been miserable. My dd has chronic ones and is allergic to all antibiotics, so she passed on her good ones to me, that she could not take. Not helping so far, but the peridium for numbing is all that made me make it to work. Enough whine, I will have some cheese now.

I would kill myself if I had that bill for either. Good grief woman. Time to buy some Evap coolers for next year.
Rebates abound now for all things green.

Now I feel better about my bills and my struggling landscape. lol Thanks for cheering me up. It is supposed to be cooler this weekend, since the coast is socked in. It is an hour and 1/2 from the coast to here and there is many mountain ranges and valley in between so we don't get it unless there is certain lows that come in. Saturday it is supposed to be breezy and about 95. Whoo hooo!!@Dixy, hot dang! Guess what? Times up. Someone hosed me too Dave. They came in and took this huge structure down in my back yard and my plants are going to go into shock, like me. They towed off this nice single wide mobile that the lady illegally put up too, which is fine, but now it is all open and we were going to try to bid on it so we could use part of the property for ourselves, with that cool building there. That sucks. I'm feeling you Dave. : =(
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 5, 2010
10:35 PM

Post #8021768

Every time I hear bills like that it makes me appreciate my well and the fact that we don't need AC in the summer. But, it's a toss up. We don't have your nice sun either. It was 92 today outside, and 80 here in the house so I do not complain. We might hit 90 and above a half a dozen times a season. For the price of that AC I can stand it.

Mid 80s most of the time in the summer, and that is very comfortable. That is outside so in the house it is in the 70s.

Your hubby will love the new computer. Reminds me, the phone, computer, and TV are my biggest bills. And getting up there near your power and water bills if they keep up.

hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 6, 2010
6:59 AM

Post #8022287

I need to move by my sister now Janette? I am a little disenchanted with here. I hate snow though, I don't mind and even like a dusting here and there but not the long cold, wet winter, so I would have to look hard. My husband is in the Long Shore Man Union, so he could find some work, but probably commuting, since we can afford to go to a big mortgage at our ages.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 6, 2010
8:09 AM

Post #8022476

Just popping in to say hello to everyone.

JB - Bad news ... now when the give a weather forecast the word RAIN is preceded by the following phrase
"NO CHANCE OF".

Mary

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Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2010
8:32 AM

Post #8022574

I hear you Dawn! Didn't your sister move to Chahalis,? That is no where near me. You better ask her about the weather if you are going to move near her. They are right on I-5 highway (near the coast) and I would imagine their weather is a lot like Seattle. Very little snow. Might be rain tho.

How long has your sister lived there? Through a winter? Give her a winter and then ask her. LOL

WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 6, 2010
11:43 AM

Post #8022978

Dawn, you can learn how to garden anywhere. Your problem is your water problem. You need a couple of rain barrels and when you are not watering you put the hose in the barrels to fill them up.


Actually my water and power bills are low on a comparison to other homes in here. We are very well insulated and have the majority of the french doors and windows on the lower level protected from the direct heat by either overhangs or trees. Out neighbor to the South has very large trees that protect that side of the house and his is a very large two story so that helps also. Some of my neighbors have over $1000 power bills but they have very large homes. My power is used up by the Koi pond, pool and refrigerators (2) and freezer. We keep the house at 78 and the majority of the time the air conditioning is not on. But I do have ceiling fans in each room, including my dressing area in the bathroom. But that is what I pay to be living in warm climate. I do not like he cold. I can always cool off but if I get cold, I stay cold.

My landscaper for the HOA just called and we are going to pick out some more plants for the front area. So I must get up and get my shower and hit the road. Later friends.
evelyn_inthegarden
Sierra Foothills, CA
(Zone 8a)

August 6, 2010
1:36 PM

Post #8023186

High 87° yesterday, Low 60°. That has been the usual for the last few weeks, and probably will stay in that range until late September or even later. I hesitate to predict any type of weather as I am not any better than the people on TV who tell us what is happening and what is likely to happen, but not always what will happen, though I am sure they do their best.

So this weather is ideal for the tomatoes, peppers and other warm season veggies. Has anyone started seeds for the upcoming fall season? We just harvested the potatoes that I planted this spring...all sizes from medium-large to tiny. I will hold over the tiny ones and save them for planting. I did that last year and this is what the harvest has been. I won't have to buy "seed potatoes" anymore unless there is a problem with any type of disease. Also, I finally pulled the lettuce that bolted. So far, the ones shaded by the row cover are still doing well, but still quite late for lettuce. One of these days I will get it right and have the lettuce and tomatoes together...the tomatoes are still green as they were planted late May due to the late cold wet weather.

The "Cottage Garden" border has been planted, and of course, more will be started from seed to put in there. I should say the "bones" have been planted...the shrubs and named perennials that I would not be able to obtain from seed. They get sun and shade so I hope that the buddlieas do not give them too much shade. If that is the case, however, I will not complain as I have no decent shade garden. I will move in the hydrangea and other shade-loving plants that I have on the north side of the house that get too much hot morning sun this time of year.it is so amazing to me to just put a trowel in and plant, as any other garden, I would have to dig with a shovel first. Sharon has the right idea about mulch. I just mulched part of the "Dark Side Garden" and the plants are loving it. The callas are popping up all over, that were hiding from the sun, as that garden used to be shaded from tall native shrubs that were cut down. I put in a Cotinus 'Grace' in the corner and it will eventually give the needed filtered sun instead of so much direct hot sun. I did not realize that all those callas were even still there, as I thought they had been eaten by underground varmits. Should any of them bloom this year, I will take pictures for sure.

Sharon ~ My 'Tropicanna' has come back as well, so I won't be needing it if you want to send it elsewhere, but it will definitely be welcome here if you have it to spare, as I would love to have more, but do not want to be *too* selfish. Years ago when I planted it, it got large and flowered well. In recent years, we had such cool or cold springs that they came up so late that they did not grow so large. I never lift cannas or callas, though I am sure if I went to the trouble to bring them out of dormancy in March under heat and bright lights that they would be larger and have more flowers as well. It is just that I have little room for that kind of activity and I am busy with my seed-starting and all.

Jeanette ~ Our expenses are minimal. We do not pay for TV, I have pre-paid peoplepc for internet, which is $7.95 a month...our cell phone bills average about $27.00 a month for each, and we have two phones and are about $27.00 as well, and we have a well, so no water bill. I will have to check about the utilities, as DH pays that. I am going to attempt to raise a lot more from seed as I could not possibly buy all the plants that I can grow...well, we will see about that, as my focus this year has been on veggies. I will learn about and fall seed-sowing now. And I want to sow more in winter as well, both indoors and outdoors.

Mary and JB ~ How is your weather today? Any rain yet? I know that I cannot count on any significant rain anythime during the summer, though occassionally there is a short thunderstorm which will blow over almost as soon as it arrives...I think we had about 5 minutes of rain about 2 weeks ago...nothing significant as everything was still dry.

So, we will all have to to what we do in hot weather...try to keep cool when we can, do what we can in the early morning hours in the gardens as that is the very coolest part of daylight hours, and then complain that we cannot be playing outside all day when we were kids...does that sum it up? Oh, yeah, and try to protect our plants the best way we know how...

Well, today I have had a fever so I did not go out this morning, so I will have to go out this afternoon in the heat. That is why the long diatribe for this afternoon, as I am usually more usefully employed...not that this "thread-group" is not a worthwhile endeavor. I learn so much from everyone here and enjoy each and every person here and your sometimes "wild & wacky" stories..LOL!! Thanks everyone!

Here is the beginning of the new garden border, (only part of it) ...I will update it when I take more pictures...

Evelyn

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Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 6, 2010
2:09 PM

Post #8023274

Dawn I feel your pain. and to top off my siteyation my order for shade cloth got missed and its was ordered on my birthday back in the 1st part of july. I was told they would cut a 70% piece instead of my 50% and ship it for the mis communication on their end. its about $3.00 a foot difference so its a good one for me. I really need the shade for my hostas and hardening off my liners.
my goofy niece locked herself in the dorm room this earlier week. campus security had to come and let her out. she was taking a math refresher corse so she can try to get out of a 0 hour course requirements for college math. she tested poorly when she enrolled. it seems fractions don't compute to her. fractions are the easiest part of math in my book. did she ask for help Nnnnnnoooooooo ...
anyway she left the key in the lock on the outside of her room and locked the inside lock. bingo she was locked in. I am so afraid of what the future holds for us because she is not alone in her ignorance. it seems they are teaching several classes of it in high school and she went to everyone of them...
I bought a couple of pieris japonica's today about $15.00 total. they were loaded with seed and had about 20 cutting ready to take on each plant. I got a ton of seed off them. already have a 50 cell sown. Also got in some cuttings of red twig dogwood. I found a source for both bloodgood and threadleaf weeping Jm seeds by the pound (not cheap but well worth it. I also managed to get some royal paulowinia seeds to grow. I was told by the guy who wants them he had been told they were tough to grow. I managed to get about 75 to grow with a few losses. Nice 4" trees I am planning on moving them upto 4" for the winter and we will see how they do for me.
I set up a sweat box for them to root in. I have a few friends who swear by them. I know several of you have been doing something similar. just using a clear tote over a flat of cuttings.
I am gearing up for my fall planting for the winter months. lots of seeds for specialty tree's Kousa dogwood, Japanese maples ., Golden rain trees, red bud tree's.
Any suggestions for other trees? I thought about bradford pear but they are such a messy tree here. they drop their little pods all over and then you have thousands sprouting all over the place. I am not sure they will come true to the parent from seed I realize they may be a bit different but if the go back to their rootstock linage it would not be worth it.
oh well no new pics. yesterday was a glorious day. I wish I had had the energy to take advantage of it. we hit a high of ...are you ready?????????...90 degrees and a nice southerly breeze on top of that. it was sweet. I realized what I missed out on last night about 6pm we went to get tires on our suv and it was nice. the shady area's were the best.
I know everyone is going to hate me but here it is. we average 300 a month for gas and electric and about 50.00 a month for water. Our housing is really afordable but you can spend a lot of money if you want to for a home. So oklahoma like Texas makes up for the heat we deal with in more afordable housing. we keep our a/c at 69 degrees.
well thats about it for now
stay cool
Dave

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 6, 2010
3:20 PM

Post #8023395

I do not know how hot it was today. The temp in the greenhouse topped out today at 106deg. when the sun came out. My 6 year old arbravida (sp) is starting to get brown and they are very tall. Two of them took a hard hit during the snow and we have them staked and pulled back with rope since that happened. It almost blew them over, so we are wondering if the roots were damaged. We strung soaker hose around them and I put it on for an hour or so this morning. Tomorrow morning I will do the same for two hours before the sun get too hot and we will see if I can bring them back. I think the lack of water has helped along with the sun. There is a big brown spot on one of them. I just want to cry.
None of the branches are broken so it must be the weather. It is a 2 ft. x 2 ft brown spot.

They are not calling for rain for another week. It has been 6 to 8 weeks since it rained a measurable rain. I remember moaning about when will it stop but little did I know it would stop for good. Those 5 inches of rain plus we had are long gone and now we are looking at a draught. All we need now is a big old fire in the pine lands and
I am going to move back to PA or hide in a hole. LOL Here in NJ it can rain one place and not a drop just a mile away. Especially when you get close to the ocean. We are about 25 miles as the crow flies.

Dave you sound like you took a big shot of B12 or something. I wish I had the energy you have. My baby sitting job ended today and the cockatiel went home so my bird room is back to normal and the plants can go back to their favorite places. I just wish I felt some motivating factor so I could start to put ads back up on Ebay and DG Marketplace. I just do not seem to give a d#@! anymore. Oh well, nothing will help and we can just wait. They are predicting 14 to 20 Hurricaines this year, so our rains will be coming for sure. LOL...Then we will blow down the GH and trees will be uprooted. You know, I am beginning to think God is mad at me. Hmmmmmm that is a scary thought.

I am going to have a cocktail and watch the news. Love and hugs to you all. Have a nice weekend. JB
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 6, 2010
3:50 PM

Post #8023459

JB The Easter Egg plant seeds arrived today! Thank you so much! Wonderful information and picture. Where did you get that cute little clear plastic envelop that the seeds are in?

I wish I had some good weather news for JB who lives in central, NJ. The following web site indicates that the ground water index is very low.

http://www.njdrought.org/status.html#central

JB … How are the farmers around you coping with the weather?

I have decided to have crystal lens inplants when I have the eye surgery for cataracts It is going to be done at Robert Wood Johnson Medical Center in Hamilton Twp, NJ.

Dave, my big Japanese Red Maple is definitely a BLOODGOOD. You are welcome to all the seeds I can gather.

Sharon … What is HOA?

Evelyn …. Nice picture! You go girl! And with the trials mother nature is putting us through we have to resort to WILD & WACKY to keep from going insane!

I truly love all of you.

MARY
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2010
6:17 PM

Post #8023809

Oh my goodness, I went out on the deck to respond to Dawn and Sharon but it was too bright and I couldn't see the screen so I read a book instead, I came in to watch the news and to respond to them and my gosh you all have been on here having a party.

Sharon, that would be good advice for Dawn with the rain barrel if she got rain. I'm not sure she does get much??? Speaking of the rain barrel, I discovered Bob had turned the spigot closed on the two on the kitchen deck and they filled up. So, I had 55 gallons in each one to water the plants with. That is good 'cause I don't set the sprinklers on the perennials. I want them to get their roots down deep to search for water.

Evelyn, what is the fever from? You take care of yourself. I enjoy growing from seed so much. Especially, 'cause that is the time of the year starting in January and February with the seed catalogs and ordering, and then planting in March. Then of course babying them until setting them out.

Dave it is sad that your niece has wasted her classes. I agree, fractions were the easiest part of math. Too bad that she didn't get you to help her. Gosh, a tutor right there!! What more could you ask for.

What are paulowinias? I have heard of them, but don't know what they are. How many seeds did you get bulk? Are you going to have room for all of those? How long do you think you will have to keep them to turn them over?

Well, for utilities I think I have you beat Dave. I have a budget amount with the PUD and pay $180 a month for power which includes heat. That is year round. And we have a well so nothing there, no garbage or sewers. Just the phones, Cable TV, and computer. Evelyn, what did you mean you have pre-paid peoplepc for the internet at $7.95 a month? My Satellite TV is $82. phones, another $100, Computer $55.

Never thought I would hear you wish for hurricanes JB. I feel for you. I really do. This has been such a nice summer so far. Looks like e will get some storms tonight tho. It gets in the 90s and we get heat lightning. It is ok if we get rain with it. But, a fear of fires if we just get the lightning. Altho, the counties around us have fire warnings, but here most everything is pretty green.

I had a nice surprise a bit ago, I went out checking the plants on the deck and found 3 of my brugs are budded and one has a 4" bud on it. I have not seen it before now. So, maybe I will get to see which ones I have. I lost all the tags somehow.

Think we could all use a shot of Dave's go juice JB.

Mary, I have never heard of crystal lenses. Hope you like them.

The wind just knocked over a 7 foot tall brug. Just wish it would rain instead of wind blowing. LOL, sounding like JB.







Getting there. These are Super San Marzano tomatoes that I make sauce and salsa out of.

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 6, 2010
6:59 PM

Post #8023871

Janette my sister is moving to Centalia, or Twin cities, she says it is known as. It is scary to leave everyone I love, like my kids and my grandbabies though. I don't know if I could have the courage to do it. I know I would grieve so much, but in another sense I would love to be where I could smell rain all the time. I LOVE, LOVE RAIN. IT IS MY FAVORITE. Though I favor it with thunder and lightening, but I will take it any way I can get it. I don't get it, what do I do with the rain barrel? Hand water stuff with a watering can? This is foreign to me, so I apologize if I sound ignorant. I am.

Sharon you live in a different income tax bracket than I, so I can appreciate you not being horrified, but it is a lot.
Our electric was $118 and the water is about $30 every 2 months. We have a well too, community well with 16 others, as I said before. Our propane kills in the Winter, if we use our central heat much, but we got a pellet stove and now it is about $100-135 for propane. It does not heat the whole house well but it keeps most of it comfortable, pretty fordable.
$our mortgage is pretty affordable and we pay extra on it, so we are paying it down fast.

Dave are you trying to figure out a tree for your yard or to grow to sell?

JB I understand your pain. It just kills to get something you love, established to have it go due to nature. My gosh, I lost a silver dollar Eucalyptus tree and it is just coming back, it looks like a dang shrub now. In Winter it will probably snap again too, in the wind. I need to keep wacking it, so the trunks will thicken out. grrr!
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 6, 2010
8:13 PM

Post #8024061

Dawn, Sorry, Centralia. They are pretty close together. I think. But neither are near me. Maybe 4 or 500 miles. So, I don't think you would have to worry about snow. Not much anyway. I still would wait until your sister has gone thru a winter and let her tell you.

Yes, it is rough leaving family. Take it from me. Don't move from the grandbabies. You miss their growing up. Put up with the weather. Go stand under the sprinkler. LOL

A rain barrel is good if you have a big expanse of a roof and of course rain. I have mine on my deck which is almost 10 feet higher than the garden I have them watering. Therefore, I put hoses on them and gravity flow pulls the water down. I don't have to work other than to move the hoses to other plants.

Now if I can just get Bob to leave the spigots open or at least tell me when the barrels are full. LOL
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 6, 2010
9:54 PM

Post #8024192

I would just have to fill barrels with a hose. lol You get so much water, I can't imagine why you would need rain barrels though.

What is the story with your grandkids. They live elsewhere? You moved or they moved? If it is not too personal. I know I would be depressed and feel like I abandoned my kids too. My dad as well. I really wish I could get them all to leave but as long as their dad is alive, they would not consider it, I sincerely doubt. I will take your advise under serious consideration. The granddaughters are only going to be 2 and are 18 days apart. My heart skips a beat when I think about them.
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 6, 2010
10:45 PM

Post #8024258

I think we are all married. You guys listen to me like my DH. I SAID, get a couple of rain barrels and when you are not using your hose, place your hose in the rain barrel and fill it with the slow moving water and then fill the next. Then you can use some of that water to irrigate when the spigot is turned on and a hose hooked up to the rain barrel. If you played it right you could probably leave the hose in the rain barrel the majority of the time. I do know you do not get rain.

And No, JB is not wishing fore hurricanes.

Dave, I do not think the B-12 is going to help here. I am going to get them all Prozac. JB has the right idea. A cocktail. But Dave you do have so much energy. I think it comes from loving what you are doing. I do not ever get tired unless I stop. As long as I keep going, I can go forever. But if i sit down, I am done. But I am on drugs for depression and anxiety. When I came down with depression, it took my doctor over a year to diagnose what I had. Over a two year period of time I did no gardening, cooking, and did numerous things I thought were normal that were totally out of whack. My DH told everyone that someone had given me a lobotomy.

Dawn, you will be miserable away from your children and grandchildren. We will work on your landscape and you will get happier. I have many ideas that are not expensive.

Mary, a HOA is a Home Owners Association.

Evelyn, I have about 100 extra cannas so I think I can get a couple sent your way.

Tomorrow I am planting some irises and redoing two hanging baskets. One is DH's hanging basket and he is going to help me. That is a good sign. He ask me if I could have anything for my birthday, what would it be. I told him, for him to get up earlier and not lose half of the day being in bed. Well he has been up everyday at 9:30am. That is much better than noon. His job at the Nevada Test Site required he get up every morning at 4am to leave at 5am to get to work on time 1 1/2 hours away by car. The last 35 years of my employment, I could go to work whenever I wished. I usually went in early and stayed late but that was just my style. Because I was the manager, our office was always right around the corner from our home. When we moved, the office moved. But that was only twice.

Have a great Saturday and we shall meet again later. Good night friends.








darkmoondreamer
(Karen) Frankston, TX
(Zone 8a)

August 7, 2010
8:48 AM

Post #8024777

Good morning all! Hi Sharon! How is you EZ Clone doing? I've convinced 2 friends on the Hibiscus forum to buy one and I will be getting mine around the first of September. We are getting ready to do quite a big Hibs cuttings swap which should be real fun. I also suffer from Depression and anxiety, I am Bi-Polar and have been treated for the past 11 years or so...actually getting diagnosed was the best thing that ever happened to me. It is a hard road even with medication sometimes...I wish you the best and am always around if you ever want to talk.

JB Glad to hear some of your seedlings are surviving...wouldn't be Christmas without you selling trees! The members of the hotties group have long since scattered to the winds...I have just about given up growing Brugs because they are such Divas...I have missed you so much you old rule breaker! LOL, sugar and spice and everything nice JB, I love you! You know, don't know that it will make you feel any better at this point, but Daves Garden has always had a policy about the "slightest" of curse words being used, even when Dave owned it. I guess you just didn't get caught a time or two. During his time it was also against the rules to replace curse words with asterisks or symbols. I'm sorry that you got a scolding letter though, that would make anyone feel badly...and you are such a sweetheart! I am glad I found you again to say hello my friend.

JBerger

JBerger
Wrightstown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

August 7, 2010
10:43 AM

Post #8024981

Hi Karen and all my darling friends who put up with me daily.
I truly am not a vulgar cusser.Not on the internet. I use the little words like the one that holds water; the one that is the opposite of heaven and a female dog when I am cranky and my very favorite is the other word for poop. That is information you really did not need but you got it anyhow.
Yes, I must have slipped thru the cracks but at my age I am not going to loose any sleep over it. This is the real world I live in and yet I do not want to offend anyone by using my favorite words. I will just go someplace else where they understand frustration being described in those words. LOL The letter was a bit of a shock but I realize we all need to go by the rules, so heaven forbid I should want to break them.
Boy those brugs are divas aren't they? Did the gang move to Dave's other list or did they just fade away to other forums of interest?
I would use one of my favorite words today because I am so frustrated. I got up early to get some gardenias transplanted to larger pots and ended up washing the dog, doing laundry and making some food for later. By that time it was lunch time and now I just checked the greenhouse temperature and it is 95 deg. So much for transplanting.
It is a beautiful day with very little wind so we are spraying roundup here today in the field of large Christmas Trees so some of the grass cutting is eliminated. It takes forever to cut those fields and yet we are so fussy about the way the place looks, something has to be done. We have used roundup all over the little field and with this sun it killed all the grass between the rows and it looks great.
I looked up my problem with the Arborvitae turning brown and they said it was normal if the branches were suffering from stress. It should come back with some care and watering etc. I do hope so, they are just beautiful trees.
I am a great tree fan and if I ever did anything else other than tropicals, I think it would be with trees. Of course, since I am going to be 82 this month I would never live long enough to see most trees mature. So, that idea wont work. LOL
I think I will go see if I can survive the heat for a short time just to get at least some of these plants done. Love you all. Hugs from the old cusser.

Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 7, 2010
2:48 PM

Post #8025382

LOL, cusser did my hummer get there? Bet he took care of that praying mantis!!

Sharon, I know what you meant about Dawn putting the hose in the rain barrel, but if she were going to water the plants, why not do it with the hose instead of the rain barrel? Dawn, do you water from your pressure tank or directly from the well? Everything I do goes thru the pressure tank and if I get it too low it gets air in it and makes a mess of the water until we get it all out.

I use a rain barrel because if I don't the rain water goes down and washes soil etc away. So, by using the rain barrels I can direct the water where I want it. On the plants.

Dawn, you asked about my grandson, 1 and only. When he was 6 yo we moved over here to the other side of the state because my mom was here. 84 yrs old, my dad had passed away. She had her own house and would never think of leaving it. Well, she died 2 yrs later. I am still here. When I bought this place, A fairly large A frame and 40 acres, I got a good buy, but had no intentions of living here permanently. Well things didn't work out that way and my grandson is now 21 yrs old, and we are not close any more like we were when he was younger. Very sorry about that.

I think a good dose of vitamin D3 would do wonders for you guys. Have your blood checked for it. Do some research on the net.

JB, I like vulgar cussin' when it is appropriate. Not every other word tho. Gotta mean something.

OH, JB!! It looks like my Aimee is going to bloom. If she does I will take a picture and post it. I have got to move her tho. She is not getting enough to eat on the other deck. I fertilize a lot on my livingroom deck because, you all guessed it, that is where the brugs are and the are gobblers of fertilizer. Found a 4 inch bud on one the other day so guess it is paying off. Will have to move Aimee out here.

JB, you will outlive any tree you could possibly plant. I believe that. If not, you could always look UP : ) to it. LOL Just teasing. You would always have to look down to it.

This is Westerland

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hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 7, 2010
4:03 PM

Post #8025486

You guys are right, being women, I know you know alienation from your family is not how we were wired for happiness.
Some men could love that, my h would be happy as a clam, I think.
We may bid on a house behind us and over one, for an investment. I doubt we will get it but what the heck. We only have a week to do our homework. So it is scary, but we would be crazy not to try...Our little money we do have, is no longer making us interest on our CD, so we may as well have a tax write off and make some money in case. We will never be able to retire if we don't cash in while it is possible to do it. I wish we could buy the one behind us and the one next to it. At least we can try. We won't bit a lot but nobody has put an offer on it, so we may be able to get it, if God wants it to be, it will.

Thanks I appreciate your ideas Sharon. I really feel like my yard can be nicer, if I get some boulders and about 10 skips of dg, to start me off. We are putting up a private fence on one side where the neighbors complain, and that will help shade some of that side from the harshest sun since it is open on the west side to the sun, with very little to shade it at present.

I want to build a bridge our of some material that I found on my property, but I need H to help me, it is heavy. I need some T-1-11 siding to put on it first. I should get a rain barrel to put on top of the cargo container, it will be hid from view by 2 huge Mullberry trees and it is actually part of our wall and also a shed, painted to match the house, it is next to the lasagna garden. If I had it, I could store water there, to water if they put us under restrictions and I would have water stored for plants in a disaster, like the immanent earthquake. That way our drinking water and the dogs water is all I would have to worry about. Not losing all of the yard. How big do they come. do they have lids to keep leaves out of them and debris? My grandma had one it looked like a large grey drum and it had a window screen over it with a rock or something to hold it down.
merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 7, 2010
5:57 PM

Post #8025632

Good evening all!

I have a question regarding SWEET GUM BALLS.

If I used them in my flower beds to deter slugs, do I have to be concern about them seedinf and turning into plants?

I am still yanking out oak tree seedlings. The wicked weather does not seem to deter them, They are occasionaly popping up in the lawn that is never watered.

Love all of you.

MARY
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 7, 2010
7:13 PM

Post #8025725

I have the same issue with elm seedlings all over. They root deep too.
leebauch
Miles City, MT
(Zone 3b)

August 7, 2010
7:57 PM

Post #8025792

All of you are having such a great time I hate to imput my news. But... here goes-----
The Good Lord decided he just had to have another quilter in his group so he called upon my Mom, gave her Golden Needles and Golden thread and a few fluffly pieces for her to start. He gave her eyesight better than here on earth and so she is teaching her trade with the others. Thank you all for your prayers and well wishes, she is in a much better place, and yes, she does have a garden---Moon garden I think :) Talk to you all a little later in the week. Thanks again. Lee
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 7, 2010
8:19 PM

Post #8025830

Here's a fresh thread http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1121521/
It was taking awhile to load the old one.
;)
gemp
Belmont, WI
(Zone 4b)

August 7, 2010
8:59 PM

Post #8025882

May God be with you lee as He is with your mother
sugarweed
Jacksonville & Okeec, FL
(Zone 9a)

August 7, 2010
9:27 PM

Post #8025937

Lee, what a sweet farewell. I know several quilters that were there waiting there for her.
She is in wonderful company.
I keep their quilts where I see them daily.
My prayers are with you in your loss.
Sidney
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 7, 2010
9:58 PM

Post #8025976

Lee,I am so sorry for your loss. Your mom and my mom are probably now best friends. Mother did not quilt but she could knit and croquet like the best. Mother loved to grow vegetables for the whole town. She also was a great fisherman. Still can taste her smoked trout.

A mother is special in our lives. Be sure you know she is still right behind you, looking over your shoulder to make sure you are doing whatever you are doing right. I still think of my mother anytime I make her favorite food or when the irises are in bloom, her favorite flower. You will do the same. Sending some of my angels to comfort you. Love, your friend, Sharon
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 7, 2010
9:58 PM

Post #8025977

Oh I don't know you, but I hope to. This is such hard news and Prayers are with you in your grief.
Dawn
WormsLovSharon
Las Vegas, NV

August 7, 2010
10:21 PM

Post #8026000

So where is Dave today? I had a good day. I cooked smothered fried chicken for my DH with mash potatoes and for myself grilled pork brisket. I had many plans for working outside but did not get there. has started eating so I made sure he had enough to east. Yesterday he was his old self and today he was dizzy.

We had the handyman here last week and he did a bunch of the handyman do list. I keep a list and when it gets worth his while I call him. He changed a bunch of light bulbs to m ore energy efficient and changed out three smoke detectors and changed the batteries in all of the smoke detectors. This afternoon, after cooking for several hours and after i cleaned the kitchen, I went into the bedroom area to take a shower and get cleaned up. My eyes were tired so I laid down on the bed for a minute and quickly fell asleep for about two hours. The first thing I heard a smoke detector beeping, like the battery was dead. I was thinking nasty thoughts about our handyman but then the beeping stopped. I took my shower, did my hair and then came out in the living area and paused the news on the TV. DH came down his man cave upstairs and we started to watch the news. Then the smoke detector started beeping again. Every time DH would pause the TV the beeping would stop. We thought it might be coming from the TV. Then I went into my dressing area to take the rollers out of my hair. The birds were in the fig tree and I opened the door to the poolside patio to scare them out of the tree. Then I heard this bird making the same noise as the smoke alarm.

I came back into the great room area and told my husband I thought there was a bird in the house as I proceeded upstairs. There in the guest bedroom was this bird, sitting on one of the twin beds beeping just like a smoke detector. I opened the french doors that open up to the back upstairs patio. Then I walked back into the room. As soon as I got across the room, our visitor took a fast fly right out the door. My DH has left the back door downstairs open while I was napping so the male dog could go in and out because he will not use the dogie door.

JB, what day is your birthday?

Dawn I am posting three photos for you. I have this plant in numerous places in my landscape. It costs $3.98 a plant and is usually very small. First photo is new plant. Second photo is plant one year old and third photo is 4 years old. I have misplaced the tag but it is a ____ dracendea palm. They do not freeze and love the heat.

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merrymath
Morrisville, PA
(Zone 6b)

August 8, 2010
5:39 AM

Post #8026227


Lee, please accept my heartfelt sympathy on the passing of your mother.
Jnette
Northeast, WA
(Zone 5a)

August 8, 2010
9:29 AM

Post #8026615

Lee, just got on here and read about your mom. So sorry to hear that, but you know I don't think it came as a surprise to you, but it is still a shock. You will always think about her in many ways when small things happen in your life. Seems we always come across things that remind us of our moms.

Take care, and come back when you feel like talking, we will always be here to listen.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 8, 2010
3:34 PM

Post #8027274

I'M bacccckkkk...
sorry everyone ... I do little excursions on weekends. we were visiting my parents at their lake homeabout 50 miles east of us. it was too hot to be outside but my mommy gets upset if I don't visit enough...
I wil move the rest of this post to the new thread sidney made for us. I had every intention of coming home and doing a new one I propmise to be more diligent and get a new one up when the posts hit the 220's
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1117221/#top
above is where we are
please check in
Dave
hellnzn11
Rosamond, CA
(Zone 8b)

August 8, 2010
4:11 PM

Post #8027355

That link takes me to the top of this one, Mr.
Sharon, I only see one picture, not the subsequent pictures after time passed. I should go look for some then. I need more fast growing trees that are not messy with leaves. After I get my small ones tall, I am chopping down most of these horrid elms. I keep them because they shade the yard on my sunny side, but OOOOOOOWW! how I despise those weeds. I have one Castor plant that took off, this year from seed, and two others that just stay small. I don't know why? Might you guys. The one that took off, is my h's favorite plant. It has so many seed pods that it better be his favorite plant. lol It looks tropical, so I like it and it grew so fast too.

I want to go outside and wack all those things down that I thought were the zinnias that I planted, but they are not, they are some crazy weed, Candelabra plant or something. OMG! one plant last year, made 500 this year. I let the darn things grew because I thought they were the zinnias I planted in late winter. crap. I can't see the forest through the weeds anymore.
Pughbear7
Tulsa, OK
(Zone 6b)

August 8, 2010
5:05 PM

Post #8027462

if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to see it does it make a sound?

sorry about that here is the correct one ...I think
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1121521/

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