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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

August 7, 2010
1:44 PM

Post #8025274

We came from here http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1077214/
Welcome and join right in. We have various health issues but we find ways to continue gardening,sometimes in limted ways. But we get the job done. We laugh together and cry together. We know we have friends that understand.
At the beginning of this last thread we were wondering how to survive the cold weather. But we did it with flying colors. Now we are wondering how to survive the hot weather.Bet we make it with flying colors too.
Vickie
defoecat
Pleasureville, KY
(Zone 6a)

August 7, 2010
8:13 PM

Post #8025820

Mabel Ruth, welcome. I am not an expert on gardening or anything else for that matter, but concerning the grow lights on the lilac. I don't know that it would be particularly helpful. I think the grow lights are mainly to help the little plants that have just germinated. I guess to get them used to light. I think being outdoors, it would have to be something a lot stronger than any grow light I have seen. There is a thread called Propagation and someone there may be able to answer your question with more authority than I can.

Please stay around and join in the chat. I am fairly new here, and it does take awhile to learn the flow of the conversation, but I think you will love it here.

Today, I did the least work of any day this summer. DH went with a friend to do some errands, and I went out and cleaned the pool of leaves that landed there during a storm last Wednesday, and when I finished that, I folded a load of laundry that had finished while I was outside, and then I sat and read, got sleepy and napped, and then read some more. Supper was easy, burgers on the grill, corn on the cob and fresh tomatoes. It felt wonderful, and I may have to plan another day like that soon.

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 7, 2010
8:48 PM

Post #8025869

Hi all, I didn't do much today but watch baseball on TV and love on my kitties and Elvis. I am pretty irritated at myself too. over the past few weeks I have noticed that many of my pants have gotten very tight on me. When I don't have any appointments and stay inside I usually wear one of a few very comfy long tshirt type of summer beach dress. I worked very diligently and lost 40 lbs over about a 1 year period, which I was holding fine at...until these past few months. Ice Cream on sale has repeatedly hopped itself into my grocery cart numerous times and the Pappa Johns Pizza man has delivered a few "works" pizzas to my house. My Dr says that since I have come off of all my opiate pain meds things taste better and I ammore alert & naturally going overboard. She says this isn't unusual. I say, I have gained 30lbs $%%&*%!! LOL My future will once again return to my diet of fresh veggies and fruit, including snacks and fun food. It is just uncomfortable this way! I'm OK standing...well...this may be why my knees have been giving me fits, now that I think about it. but when I sit it just isn't comfortable.
Elvis has been to the vet 3 times in the past 2 weeks. Somehow he completely sliced the thick black sole of one of his rear toes. It is going to take a long time to heal and of course means that I should keep him from walking on hard or rough surfaces. So much for our fitness walks. Also he has fatty tumors all over his little (well used to be little) body, and one of the newest one is completely encircling his right rear leg an even goes up into his groin and wraps toward his back. At his age surgery to remove or reduce these things would be impractical and not in his best interest. I pray that My Poodle boy is with me a few more years. the realization that his future is probably not very long just tears me up. Two deaths that I absolutely don't know how I will survive are Him and my Mom who just turned 79.
thanks for being there m=for me to ventilate to .
Sorry for seeming so down.

Hugs all around,
~Sheri & Elvis
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katiebear
mulege
Mexico

August 7, 2010
10:26 PM

Post #8026006

Today I talked to my friend Michael and his mother is having her 100th birthday. They are both in LA and the city government makes a big deal about a person turning 100 so everyone will be turning out to see her get a certificate or something. I've known Michael for more than twenty years and he has been "fixin' to die" most of that time. Has survived prostate cancer and several other things that probably should have killed him and keeps going.

Tony and I did some clean-up today. As usual, he did more than I did. I do point well; then I'm back at the puter.

Had a good talk with my niece tonight. She is happily married and has a good job. She tells me I helped her to escape many of our famly problems.

Tomorrow I will be attacking the epi jungle. And I have lots of little plants and trees to pot up.

Pleasant dreams, everybody.

hugs, katie
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

August 8, 2010
3:05 PM

Post #8027228

Hi, Mable Ruth, welcome to the thread! I’m from the deep south so don’t know much about lilacs, but can’t they be propagated from cuttings? If so, you could propagate some cuttings and still have the plant that you have an emotional attachment to. That still leaves the problem of the mother plant in an unsuitable place, but, once you have thriving cuttings, you could pay someone or trade for their services to have it removed.
I just had some Clementine oranges taken out because I’m trying to simplify my landscape and build more living space. It was hard because I had brought them up with me from Florida when they were only a few feet tall. I didn’t choose to propagate more of the Clementine’s because I’m replacing them with the Owari oranges that are better suited to this part of the south. I struggled to remove them myself with a bow saw, at first. But, the trees were over 20 feet tall and their trunks were thick. It took a friend only a few seconds with his chainsaw. I traded for his time and work with plants I had around he wanted.
I was stung by a yellowjacket yesterday. I may have to go tomorrow to get the shot that stops the allergic reaction, if the Benadryl doesn’t work. My hand is swollen and itches like crazy. Yellowjackets were building a nest under the curved lip of a large pot. Something to keep in mind when moving your containers around, Vickie. It never occurred to me wasp would do that.
Jim is jewelry making today. Our GD’s b’day is coming up and he couldn’t find anything at the store he thought suited her so he bought beads and tools to make her something special. He says he is going to start jewelry making and simple sewing to keep his fine muscle skills. A “use them so you don’t lose them” approach. It certainly can’t hurt. Kay*

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 9, 2010
12:56 PM

Post #8029313

Boy, I bought my DDs all kinds of pretty beads and tools and equipment and whatever for Christmas one year expecting to acquire a cache of custom-made jewelry - didn't work. But let the past be the behind, right? Maybe I should have SAID "would you please make thus-and-so for me?" I figured if they wanted to, they would have. Maybe they were too young or too old.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 9, 2010
1:07 PM

Post #8029334

I know mableruth's "real" name. Most of us on this forum know each other well enough to use our actual names, not our screen names, and we even have a thread where we list all the screen name / real name combinations so the muddle-headed among us can keep it straight (I lead the pack, which is why I started the thread).

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1103477/

There it is so you can keep us all straight, and when you're ready, I'd be happy to stick you in there too. BTW, you asked on another thread - I'm in a wheelchair fulltime, or bed. It stinks.
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

August 10, 2010
8:04 PM

Post #8032580

LOL I bought myself all kinds of pretty beads, years ago but hav'ent used them much.I just don't care much for jewelry I've got more craft junk around then i could use the rest of my life.
I really really need to have a yard sale.Neither of the girls cares a pittance for crafts,
We're having an invasion of tent worms right now, DH always burned them but it's way too dry to do any burning.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 11, 2010
5:49 PM

Post #8034379

Oooh, don't burn. Did I tell you I once had a yard sale? I made $75. DH said he would have paid me $75 NOT to have the yard sale, LOL.
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 19, 2010
6:31 PM

Post #8050478

*Frayed thread woven in from Practical Matters #5.

I gave up the hunt for marigolds. All the nurserymen I talked to said they wouldn't be getting them until Sept. I'm learned more about how large nurseries operate. Think I will get acquainted with more of the small, specialty nurseries in the area. I chose snapdragons and red and purple (of course) pentas.
There is still some touch up painting for me to do and MK still has to level and surface the ground to give wheelchair users a clean, smooth surface. This size and shape of bathtub was an unusual find. I think it will work well as a planter because you can get in close as you would with a tabletop planter. ~Nadine~
Photo: Amargia gives a whole new meaning to "garden-style tub."

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carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 19, 2010
7:04 PM

Post #8050542

Smart, Nadine. Little nurseries may not have your marigolds, but at least they can talk intelligently about why or why not. Is it too late to start them from seed?

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 19, 2010
7:22 PM

Post #8050579

LOL LOL LOL just read Nada's comment about a disabled plant! That is NOT WHAT I MEANT but it is hysterically funny. Any plant that needs extra water or fertilizer or staking (dahlias, anyone?) to survive could be considered disabled! I won't allow those high-maintenance plants onto my property. Well, unless DH buys them.

He went past a nursery that was having a going-out-of-business sale, 50% off everything, so he bought three dahlias and planted them in my low-maintenance sandy front garden where if you want extra water you better haul it yourself! Helenium, black-eyed Susan, coreopsis, monarda, and he stuck the dahlias out there and left them alone and wondered why they weren't doing well! *snort* I could barely keep a straight face. "What do you mean, these aren't perennial?" No, dear, not in z. 6 and not in this part of the yard! I pruned the dead blooms off and watered them all and got them to bloom again but ... silly husband! Btw, TOMORROW is our tenth anniversary! I'm so excited!
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 20, 2010
7:16 AM

Post #8051445

Happy Anniversary to you both! :-D
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

August 20, 2010
9:42 AM

Post #8051739

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!
Carrie & Ray
(Uh-h-h, it is "Ray", isn't it? I hate this getting old and forgetful stuff.)

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katiebear
mulege
Mexico

August 20, 2010
9:05 PM

Post #8052920

I'm home. good trip. i'm hot and tired. more later but i'm fine.

katie

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 21, 2010
8:53 AM

Post #8053576

~~~Hi Katie!~~~
Welcome home! glad your trip was good. hope you can get a good rest, maybe in the room with the a/c. loooking forward to hear aboout your trip and adventures.

Sheri
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

August 22, 2010
3:17 PM

Post #8055796

Photo: Nadine's disabled Sunflower LoL.

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Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 23, 2010
10:57 AM

Post #8057368

I certify that this is my original work. seacanepain edited it by putting a frame around it, though. I made it especially for this thread.

-Nadine Hanna

Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
11:00 AM

Post #8057373

The Issue with the Photo has been addressed on the other thead .

Sarge.

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
11:50 AM

Post #8057462

Ya know what...I think most of us could figure that out without your intervention. Do you think you are our TI or something?
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
12:07 PM

Post #8057482

BirdieBlue,

Many do not watch the thread once the new thread is posted .

i was not belittling any one or iterveaning for anyone I am nothing more than a member myself and the issue was with me and another member i did not want to D-mail them as a pose to letting them know the public appolagy was posted.

Sarge.

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
12:34 PM

Post #8057520

And many do...we have all been here a pretty long time...here again, it is not necessary to be our "guide dog" either.
... last post from me on this...it's getting pretty rediculous.

Sheri
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 23, 2010
12:45 PM

Post #8057548

Sheri:

I don't believe he meant it that way. I understood his comment to be informational only and an attempt to help. He also apologized to everyone, including you, for any misunderstanding. I think his contrition can be accepted as genuine, and we can simply do what you suggested: drop the entire matter and move on. :-)

Debra
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
12:45 PM

Post #8057549

Have a nice day BB

Sarge
Ret_Sgt_Yates
Sparta , TN
(Zone 7a)

August 23, 2010
12:47 PM

Post #8057555

debra,

you are correct

thank you

Sarge

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 23, 2010
5:28 PM

Post #8058059

Wow, I'm glad I missed that little brush fire. Are we all OK now?

I like Nadine's disabled sunflower although I am always expecting aluminum crutches. I suppose a sunflower couldn't exactly go to a rehab hospital or physical therapist and be issued aluminum crutches.

OH WOW! I didn't scroll up far enough! Thank you, Debra and Kay! Yes, it's Ray, although as he hasn't agreed to be on the real name screen name thread I generally try to refer to him as DH. The party was fine, according to DH there was not enough meat and too much cheese and too many vegetables at the luncheon, we only had gluten-free cake from this new 'wonderful' GF bakery and it tasted like cement, I really wanted walnut torte but got talked out of it, blah blah blah, but the ceremony was REALLY lovely and I wish you ALL, each and every one, could have come. DD#1 was a witch, but that's another story.
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 23, 2010
6:47 PM

Post #8058223

Nadine, I can't wait to see what other flowers you make for us! We can scan it to computer, make t-shirts, mousepads, mugs...all kinds of stuff! :-D

Debra

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 24, 2010
6:56 AM

Post #8059025

You can upload it to zazzle.com or there's another, less expensive place online my second daughter knows about - and design your Tshirt right there.
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 24, 2010
1:07 PM

Post #8059789

Thanks for the idea, Nada. I like this better than the garden critters with limitations one. I’m going a different direction with that.
I think I saw a morning glory that needs a w/c. I got up this morning early enough to see morning glories. Oh, the sacrifices I am willing to make for my art! Lol.
Bad computer day. I just did a post and lost everything because I neglected a Java update. Time to turn this system over to the computer gremlin exterminator. (a.k.a. Papa Jim) Have a good evening, All. ~Nadine~

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 24, 2010
3:39 PM

Post #8060033

I just spoke with Scraps/ Stephanie. She says it has been a crazy summer, and that computer issues are keeping her away for now, but that she will be back sometime.

Steph sends her love and prayers,

BirdieBlue

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 24, 2010
6:24 PM

Post #8060291

Oh, good! I'm glad she's ok, still remembers us, etc. Please pass on our greetings next time you speak with her. I miss her dearly.

Nadine, what kind of MG needs a WC?

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 25, 2010
7:28 AM

Post #8061117

I get confused on the different threads. Posted this last night on #5.

23 of the last 25 days at or above 100 degrees. Record-tying highs on Sunday (105) and yesterday (107). My poor plants are shriveled and brown and really really pitiful looking. Was feeling unhappy because lots of new plants aren't going to make it. But, then today it occurred to me. No mosquitoes! Too hot to be outside, but if I could--no bites!!! LOL And it is a little exciting to think about October and November, seeing what did survive when it pops back up. Have 15 Route 66 and 15 Sienna Sunset Coreopsis, 10 new Gauras, and about 20 different Baptisias coming early-mid September, so there will be lots of fresh 'stuff' to replace what dried to straw. :-)

Debra

BUT YIPPEE YEA HOORAY!!!!! Woke up this morning to a nice, steady soaking rain.

LOL
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 25, 2010
7:29 AM

Post #8061118

(cartwheel) (cartwheel) (cartwheel)
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 25, 2010
10:44 AM

Post #8061420

lol. Carrie, a morning glory the color of a night sky that I want to capture on paper I think it’s called ‘Grandpa Ott’s”. There are some raspberry colored ones and some that are an intense sky blue, but it is the dark blue ones I like best. .
I’m starting to like getting up early to mow and sleeping thru hot afternoons. The flowers are prettier and perkier in the early morning. The enormous blooms of the moonflowers are still open and you can see how MGs came to have their name.
Some of the groundcovers are blooming. I’ve learned that soapwort and leadwort look much prettier than they sound. lol. I wonder why so many plants have “wort” as a part of their common name?
MK is leveling and doing concrete work in the w/c garden. PJ is house cleaning and grumbling about the dishwasher and how shoddy design and workmanship has become. The model of Maytag dishwasher we have has been re-called by the manufacturer as a fire hazard. We will be doing dishes by hand for a week or more. How did our great-grandmothers find time to do everything they needed to do!
Before my nap I need to get the latest basil harvest in the freezer and I want to try a new zucchini bread recipe. Also, see how dried, crumbled chocolate mint will taste blended into chocolate cake batter.
I think I know where your missing mosquitoes went, Debra. This has been the wettest August I can ever remember. We are accustomed to being dry roasted in August. Not, steamed. ~Nadine~
Photo: Something in MKs wildflower area.

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renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 25, 2010
1:55 PM

Post #8061688

you are welcome about the flower idea *g I have a pair of wooden crutches and a pair of HOT PINK crutches! I have a real pretty mexican cane, and one made for me by a friend that is just pretty wood.

Cleaned and sorted the storage room under the deck Monday. Found duplicates of just about everything. I have 5 measuring tapes and 7 different levels. I don't think "I" have ever used a level in my life! *giggle

We cut and started putting together gates for the deck yesterday. I will post pics as soon as I take some. We had to put up fencing around the deck cuz we built it for adults and now have a 2yr old (the spendels are too far apart). The gates are cuz there are so many openings and stairs that she could get hurt. Right now at least two of us has to stay with her on the deck since she is so spry. We are trying to make it safer so we don't have to watch her the whole time and can do something ourselves.

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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

August 25, 2010
3:44 PM

Post #8061836

Hey all, We had plenty of the hundred* temps too but today it's in the 80,s.
I've had both cataract surgerys and have to wear dark glasses or patches for awhile, Can't see a thing with glasses. But DO have permission to drive. LOL Everything is on hold for awhile. Till it cools off and i can see.
Today is the first day i've done anything but sit!!! Man oh man do i have a lot of housekeeping to catch up with. We still have'nt had any rain---Maybe this weekend.
Carrie hope you had a great anniversity!
Debra will you try to send some rain on my way if you get any.Thank you again for the puter.
Sarge, Got any good partys planned? How about Halloween?I'll bring some Halloween candles and a black cat!!!!
Rena, You can send either of those canes my way anytime now. They are beautiful.
It is totally amazing how fast those little ones can move.You can't wait for little ones to learn to walk. than spend the rest of your life wondering why you ever did.
I have some of the med blue Grampa Otts that went wild. There are some white ones over there too that i don't know where came from.
I held a level once -----For DH for our porch.
I don't remember what lead plant looks like but i love soapwort too.
Birdie, How's Elvis and Kitty?
Vickie

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 25, 2010
6:35 PM

Post #8062197

What a gorgeous cane! Just thinking, it would look pretty with Grandpa Otts MG twined around it. Not a suggestion, just a flight of fancy. Nadine, you are adapting to the same schedule that warm climate dwellers all over the world who wanted to get anything accomplished before AC used: get up early while it's c-o-o-l and then take a siesta when it's too hot.

It's rainy and cold up here - go figure!
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 25, 2010
8:33 PM

Post #8062487

Just found out "wort" is the archaic Middle English word for plant. "Wyrt" in Old English. That makes sense. I couldn't get an association with warts out of my head. lol.
Next time my ankle gives me trouble I'll have to see if crutches come in purple. If not, I guess I can always paint my ho-hum wooden ones. ~Nadine~
renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

August 25, 2010
9:53 PM

Post #8062602

The cane is up for grabs over in the swaps/trades fourm.

KayLynn is nearly 2 and it just seems like yesterday that she was born. I never thought about having a child around since I didn't have any but with her and her mom living with me it is nearly like having one of my own... I just don't have to do all the hard work! *g

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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

August 26, 2010
9:15 PM

Post #8064625

Kaylynn is a doll.A lovely huggable doll.
I guess all the worts have been in use a very long time.
Nadene,I vote you paint your crutches purple with lil yellow daisys.
It did'nt get as cool as
predicted but maybe tonight.
Is Jim and Kay ok? Seems lke i have'nt heard from them in awhile. Glad you're here.
Vickie

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

August 27, 2010
3:20 PM

Post #8065782

That's it, Nadine, I knew it was something totally logical. I wish that lovely cane would do me any good, but alas, no. Tell Jim and Kay the canna they sent me, while lovely and mostly interesting, just doesn't have enough warm time up here to bloom. I think the ones I see in containers are grown in greenhouses.
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

August 27, 2010
9:20 PM

Post #8066402

Kay and I are still around. We’ve just been lurking the last couple of days. DW has been doing earth moving and concrete work. Those tasks exhaust her. She doesn’t stay awake long after she comes in for the evening
I’ve been a little under the weather. Nothing serious. Just feeling blah. Today was a productive day though. Halfway done with cleaning the closed-in back porch that functions as my workshop. Everyone has been complaining the path thru from the outer to the inner door was getting so narrow that soon only really skinny folks would be able to come in the back door. (Not many of those around here. :-) I’ve been promising to clean things up as soon as it cooled off some. It was a bearable 88 today.
Nadine got a tough lesson in the darker side of nature. She is ticked with Fenny and I. I lost most of my apple crop to deer. They even ate all the figs. I took off Fenny’s perimeter collar and gave her the freedom to guard the entire property. She took down a deer. Nadine found the remains when she went out early to mow. . She doesn’t really have a weak stomach. I think it just surprised her Fenny would kill. Fenny is such a goofy, sweet natured dog. Nadine’s little dog would chase down rabbits. Then, nudge them to get them to run more so he could chase them more. That was her image of how dogs behave toward wild animals. I think Fenny is part Rottweiler, a naturally aggressive breed. Nadine has decided Fenny is “too wolf-y” and needs to be made more civilized. She believes more attention and human companionship will accomplish that. They are bonding over a manicure. I doubt Fenny will do it again (even if she could) for fear her young mistress will paint her toenails again I don’t think frosted pink suits Fenny’s hair and eyes. If this does happen again, we’ll have to get Fen her own polish in a peach shade.
A handsome cane and a beautiful little girl! I'm doing much the same thing on our front deck for the same reason. The GS's think it is fun to jump off. I got halfway around with the lattice before it got so hot. Have to clean up the workroom first though to find what I need. lol.
Well, Carrie, I guess, we'll have to come up with another idea for our excess cannas. I don't think there is any hope of marketing them as inexpensive annuals in New England if they don't flower. I doubt anyone will want to grow them just for the foliage. Thanks for trying. This means Nadine will have to develop a recipe for the purple canna indica before they take over the property. You know they will use me as the taste testing guinea pig. The chocolate mint cupcakes were fantastic, but one of these days... (Jim)
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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 28, 2010
6:23 AM

Post #8066747

Those are great looking dogs. :-)
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 28, 2010
11:39 AM

Post #8067184

I’m just trying to change Fenrira’s image in other people’s minds. It is bad for a dog as large as she is to get a reputation as dangerous. If, say, something happened to one of the neighbor’s goats or other livestock, people will blame Fenny. That is just the way people are. Fen ignores other animals unless they come into what she considers her territory. Tater is far more dangerous than Fenny. She bit a newspaper reporter who got overbearing with Momma Kay and grabbed her arm. Fenny goes belly up to Tate in a New York minute when Tate is mad. People see Tate as old and harmless. No one is afraid of her because she is kind of cutesy. Fenny has the opposite problem. Besides, there is a pet costume contest at a nearby pet store at Halloween. I bet Fenny could win if I can get her used to the idea of being dressed up. Since I don’t have Cando’s black cat, I’ll have to make do with a black dog.
Sheri, is your dog really named Elvis? I like that!
Nada, tell KayLynn I love her raincoat. lol. I’ve never been over to the swaps. I’ll have to check it out. DG has a lot more stuff going on than I first realized.
Carrie, I’m not surprised the plants up there are confused by the weather. I certainly was. Temperatures were so variable and unpredictable.
Debra, we will be moving a bed of rose verbena shortly. Do you already have that? It blooms reliably in dry, hot conditions. Of course, I love it. It’s purple. Lol.
Planted broccoli and carrots today. When I was very young, I couldn’t figure out why my Dad called them “cool season vegetables” since they are most often planted here at the hottest part of the year. ~Nadine~

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 28, 2010
12:39 PM

Post #8067246

Rose verbena sounds lovely. Do Hummers go to it?
Yes Elvis is really my BFD's (best friend dog's) name. His entire name is KyMiNyLilElvisLuvsMeTndr. The KyMiNy is the kennel name he is from, those 3 states being where their first 3 Champions of Elvis' Pedigree were achieved.
He's been my best bud, lifesaver and watchdog for 14 years now!

Hugs,
Sheri

Oh heck, the watermark is over his sweet face again.

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 28, 2010
6:16 PM

Post #8067705

Nadine,

I've had verbena in containers and think they would be really good in the beds. Love the colors and the form.

Any stranger who touches any part of Kay without her permission SHOULD be bitten! :-) But I know what you mean about perceptions.

Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 29, 2010
8:30 PM

Post #8069748

In all, it cost over $1000 to get Tater-dog out of trouble, but PJ said it was still worth it. lol. Miss Vickie, I was researching the idea of doing an Amargia’s plant of the week thing for locals and I ran across a fun website that might be of interest to you. I was looking at how others had done the project and found the University of Arkansas does a “Plant of the Week” thing like DG does. Just specifically for Arkansas. I liked it enough to bookmark it. http://www.arhomeandgarden.org/plant_week.htm
I now see the value of specifically local knowledge. I have to unlearn much of what I learned from a gardening neighbor in CT. The rules can change big-time with locale.
Sheri, I haven’t noticed any hummers at the Homestead Purple verbena, but butterflies and moths are crazy about it. I think the hummingbirds are too busy defending their chosen “flower” on the feeders PJ puts up. They go so far as to buzz people’s heads to let it be known their feeders are empty. There are a few more birds every year. PJ just puts up more feeders. :-)
I read somewhere ‘Homestead Purple’ occurred as a natural mutation in GA and was discovered by a couple of famous plantsmen who introduced it into the nursery trade. I know it looks like a giant version of what grows by the roadside in the SE. It does move around like some comments on PF say. MK’s theory is that it grows so prolifically it all but exhausts the soil in its allotted space in a single year, and wants to move to an adjacent fresh area the next year. We are moving it to a space that gets regular fertilizer to try to overcome its gypsy tendencies. Also, will try treating it sort of like an annual and just moving a few new roots to a different spot every year. The way it blooms when little else does makes it worth the effort. That shade of purple pairs well with anything. It can go wherever you want an extra punch of color. ~Nadine~
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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 30, 2010
6:57 AM

Post #8070283

Nadine, I love the wheelchair morning glory, too. Would you do me a favor, would you copyright the drawings? If you ever wanted to expand on the theme, it would be a good foundation and would protect your rights. All you have to do is write "Copyright [your name] 2010" on the bottom somewhere.

Debra

BirdieBlue

BirdieBlue
Winston Salem, NC
(Zone 7a)

August 30, 2010
8:29 AM

Post #8070445

yes, to protect your idea. I have seen people just encircle a small "c" (sort of like this-@, but c) and them their name.
you definitely have got some good and cute ideas!!

Sheri
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 30, 2010
12:03 PM

Post #8070820

Thanks. These were just my gift to the people on this thread, but I'll do as you suggest. I'll edit the ones I've submitted and you can tell me if I did it right.
I'm not satisfied with the color on the w/c morning glory. I thought I would download it and play with the color on one of the art programs like paintshop. I'm just most comfortable working with colored pencils. ~Nadine~

cant edit pictures in DG edit window but from now on i do as you suggest.

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

August 30, 2010
4:55 PM

Post #8071289

Does the system allow us to delete the photograph and reload it with an updated version?
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

August 30, 2010
7:39 PM

Post #8071733

If it does, I can't see how.
For the information of those coming in from PM#5: I’ve always wanted my very own scarecrow likeness. It’s about time I got one! Everyone else has had one. BTW: I think I will dress up as a Granny Goon for Halloween. I’m a great admirer of GG’s.
Carrie, when I went out trick-o-treating and saw those darkened houses I always imagined the inhabitants sitting in the dark, hunched over the bowl of candy corn, pumpkin peeps and black M&M’s with wolfish grins on their faces, whispering, “Mine. Mine! All mine!”
Speaking of Halloween peeps, Miss Vickie, you have to try roasting those. Over a utility candle, if you must, turning them slowly around until the sugar melts and forms a nice brownish shell. Roasted ghost peeps are a Halloween favorite of mine. Hope we can have a bonfire this year.
There are small kids around at Halloween so décor is more whimsical than spooky. Lots of “Winnie the Pooh” decorations. I’m not sure if that is because of the kids or because MK is a collector of all things Tigger. Tigger shows up on the Christmas tree too. Funny though, she’s always made me think more of Rabbit. ~Nadine~
renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 1, 2010
7:56 AM

Post #8074402

My sister LOVES tigger. I'm always on the lookout for stuff that she will like... And when it is just too childish.. I get it for her daughter *g
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

September 1, 2010
10:02 PM

Post #8075825

Well, Tigger does have perfect Halloween colors. lol.
I’m going to classify today as an aster disaster. (It really wasn’t that bad, I suppose. I just couldn’t resist subjecting others to my word play.) I have been trying to ID and log Amargia’s asters. I had no idea there were so many types of asters. A lavender New England aster and a white heath aster are blooming. At least, that is my best guess. They are pretty whatever kind they are. Thus far, not very large and well behaved. One gardener's weed is another gardener's exotic, I guess.
How is your vision now, Vickie? There is more taped reading material on its way. I’ll mail it myself this time so it doesn’t have so many “adventures” on the way to the post office. :-) Have you given the new computer an unprintable name yet? :-) When I left the work force, a DOS was cutting edge for a computer. I didn’t touch a computer for more than a decade. Thought I was never going to catch up with things! The computer and I had an on-off, love-hate relationship for almost a year before it became a committed relationship.
Heads up, Sheri. Oxalis and a couple of lilies are on their way.
Debra, has it started cooling down there? We have already started having nightime lows in the 60's. Surprisingly early for that.
I think I’ve almost convinced Jim to get his own scooter or motorized wheelchair. Grocery shopping totally wiped him out and the store doesn’t always have a motorized shopping cart available THAT WORKS. One cart got halfway to the back of the store before the battery gave out. Jim was able to limp it back to the front entrance. The 2nd one he tried didn’t make it very far out of the storage area before it quit. He gave up and asked Nadine to get a push cart after the 3rd one quit before they made it to the checkout. He said he did more walking trying to use motorized carts than if he had grabbed a push cart from the start.
In our endeavor to use what the garden provides more imaginatively, Nadine made something called Okonomiyaki tonight. A Japanese dish somewhere between a pizza and a pancake. Cabbage and scallions are fried in a batter with spices and topped with ground pork, either I’m going to have to learn to spell it from memory or make up my own name for it because it is a keeper!
Hope everyone has a good night and a pleasant, pain-free tomorrow. . Kay*
renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 2, 2010
7:40 AM

Post #8076257

oh oh... tell us how you made it. Always up for something new.
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 2, 2010
2:30 PM

Post #8076894

Kay, its dropped out of the 100s. Didn't get much past 90 today, had some light rain and cloud cover most of the day. Fingers crossed the weekends cool fast. Lots of preparation for the 73!!! plants coming in the next three weeks or so. First time on a co-op. Hoo-boy. Talk about addiction potential. LOL

After reading her posts and seeing her creativity, I think Nadine's coming south is a gift to all of us. :-)

Hope everyone is having a good week.
Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 3, 2010
12:11 PM

Post #8078475

Ah-h-h Shucks. (blush) I appreciate you everytime I walk out on the front deck, Debra. It smells so good out there!
Nada, I originally got that recipe from “The Manga Cookbook”, most of my recipes either come from that or “Kitchen Princess” which is a manga with recipes at the end. (Sort of like a mystery series MK reads where the main character is solving crimes when she is not baking cookies. KayLynn will probably be telling you more than you ever wanted to know about Manga and Anime in a few years. Lol. It is still very popular with kids. Basically, ‘Anime’ is Japanese cartoons or American cartoons done in the Japanese style. ‘Manga’ are the Japanese comic books. They’re a lot thicker than American comic books and read from back-to-front. Kids from kindergarten age to adults collect and trade. I even saw some white-haired ladies at the last Anime convention I went to in Atlanta. Probably “Hello Kitty” fans! Those fans can be as fanatical and devoted as fans of “Star Trek”.. Lol.

Okonomiyaki
½ pound cabbage cut into thin strips
½ green onion diced
¾ cup dashi stock (or ¾ cup replacement stock made by boiling 1 cup of water, a vegetable bouillon cube and a tablespoon of fish sauce)
1 cup of flour
2 tablespoons milk
2 eggs
2 tablespoons mayonnaise
1 tablespoon butter
¼ teaspoon baking powder
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
Extra mayonnaise for seasoning
Okonomiyaki or Worcestershire sauce
1 sheet of nori seaweed (optional)
1:Combine flour, eggs, stock, milk, baking powder, mayonnaise, butter and vegetables in a large bowl. Stir well. The mix should be the consistency of a thick pancake batter, add ¼ cup flour if it doesn’t seem thick enough.
2: Pour the vegetable oil in a pan over medium heat. Add half the mix and cover the pan with a lid while cooking. Cook until bottom is firm and then flip and repeat (just like a pancake!) It browns quickly so be careful.
3: Once Okonomiyaki is done, top with a thin layer of mayo, sauce, and whatever meat and veggies you want on top (I like teriyaki pork as a topping myself), clip or shred nori seaweed on top if you have it. ~Nadine~
renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 3, 2010
10:42 PM

Post #8079461

thanks guess I will have to try this... sounds interesting. I love cabbage...
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 4, 2010
8:55 AM

Post #8079927

Beautiful day, here. Only supposed to get to about 93 today and tomorrow with low humidity. Think I feel like clearing some of the dried, dead, burned up foliage and such. Probably make me happier when I look at the yard to not see all that browwwwwn. LOL Working until 3:30 this afternoon, have to see if the motivation holds that long...
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 4, 2010
12:47 PM

Post #8080222

I still don’t know enough to do much aside from routine task in the garden, but I CAN cook. That is helpful because it frees up more of MK’s time so she can do more garden work. A situation that suits her just fine. Lol. She’s a real gardening addict.
Papa Jim and I both have serious weight problems. Mine is the “overweight, but undernourished” thing my doctor considers an epidemic among people my age. (23) PJ is the typical meat and potatoes type of guy and is suffering the consequences of such a diet. MK doesn’t have a significant weight problem, but she is prone to cancer if she isn’t careful about what she eats. The preservatives and additives in highly processed and convenience foods cause her problems. I’ve been attempting to create meals that work for all of us. Cabbage is a good source of the vitamins and minerals I need, it is a vegetable PJ honestly likes and any veggie in the cabbage family is said to help prevent cancer. Best of all, it is a vegetable that grows easily here in the fall. I’ll be on the lookout for more cabbage recipes.
A DWARF banana and a canna evidently did not read the specs that said how tall they were suppose to grow. They have committed the heinous sin of covering the satellite dish with their huge leaves. Moving them will be today’s major task. In the future, I will read the pertenent entry in the Encyclopedia of Gardening Plants aloud to every newly arrived plant so this does not happen again.
Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend! ~Nadine

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 5, 2010
10:32 AM

Post #8081621

Nadine, that is good. With you there to relieve her of cooking, Kay can get out to her heart's content. :-) I can work on the yard and have growing things all winter here. Doesn't Midland City have a fairly mild winter, too?

Do you use cookbooks, or search the 'net, or create as you go?

Was in the low 60s this morning. Below normal for us, but wonderful. Have the living room window blinds open today for the first time in forever. Doesn't feel so much like living in a cave. LOL

Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 5, 2010
2:40 PM

Post #8081936

Debra, my Japanese food recipes usually come from a manga source, but the others I snag from all sorts of places. I am making jelly from wild beautyberries today. That will require some making up as I go along. The recipe I have is very basic. Think I can make some improvements. MK once gave me a cookbook called "How to Cook Without the Book." lol.
Did you make it to 3:30? I don't know how you or MK do it. I burn out fast out there and my only physical challenges are my extra weight and a weak ankle. It is very humbling to have a 60-year-old work rings around me. :-) That's okay. We wil be engaging in seasonal tag team gardening. She slows down dramatically when winter gets closer. (Severe case of S.A.D.) While I feel more alive and energetic with the coming of cooler weather.
I think our yearly weather cycle is much like yours. A little warmer, perhaps, and definitely a lot more humidity. Gardening stops around Christmas and starts back up around Maudi Gras in Feb. We get snow on the ground an average of once a decade.
We think we have unraveled the mystery of the giant dwarfs. :-) The outdoor sink doesn't drain into the septic system, but into the irrigation trench. That sink is where MK routinely preps organic fertilizers, washes rooting hormone off her hands and the like. That banana and canna grow just where the sink drain pipe empties in to the trench. They have been receiving very large amounts of water and growth stimulants. We didn't get it all moved. The banana multiplied as well as getting taller. It has seven trunks! We are calling in re-enforcements. I did get the leaves cleared from the satellite dish so I can watch Food Network again. lol. ~Nadine~

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Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

September 5, 2010
5:14 PM

Post #8082150

A blind snapdragon? lol.
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 5, 2010
5:27 PM

Post #8082180

Had to make it until 3:30. We've opened a retail outlet for the recycled electronics and it closes at 3:00 on Saturdays. I'm manager on-site for the foreseeable future, so I'm the last one out. Didn't do much work at my desk, and not expected to work in the store; just have to be there in case something goes wrong. But a friend is coming through from New Jersey in a few weeks and the boss will get to be "boss" that Saturday. :-)
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 6, 2010
7:10 AM

Post #8083073

It is Labor Day and I am laboring away at work. If you call pushing tiny square boxes on an elongated rectangle work. :-) Think I'll let everyone go home by 3:00. Supposed to be 94 today, but dry. Calling for rain tomorrow so if I can just muster up enough energy to do a little trimming today...LOL...or not...

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 7, 2010
6:19 PM

Post #8086208

Love Nadine's stuff!
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

September 7, 2010
10:14 PM

Post #8086539

I had a good day. I have not had one of those in awhile.
I discovered I like beautyberry jelly much to my surprise. To me, the florescent purple of the berries just didn’t look like something one should be eating. Their color and odd way of growing in concentric circles around the stem make them look extraterrestrial.
The classic recipe tasted good, but was a little too sweet. Nadine hit a homerun with a low-sugar orange and beautyberry mix. I decided I wanted a winter supply of that so Nadi and I cut a deal. She would make more of the orange kind for me, if I gathered enough berries to make it plus enough for her to do more recipe experiments with. I was able to pick, sort and cleaned beautyberries this morning and was still able to work for awhile in the w/c garden this afternoon. The pain amazingly is no worse than usual tonight. Don’t think I’ll push it tomorrow though. Will try for that level of activity every other day.
Kay just did general clean-up and maintenance today. The plan was Amargia would be closed this season so we could catch up on projects and let daily maintenance ride a little. There simply wasn’t time to do both and we are far enough off the beaten path that we can get away with it. A few weeds aren’t going to hurt anything in the long run, but we dare not let them go to seed.
No flowers yet from any of the fall-blooming bulbs, but the jasmine bush is blooming again.
Debra, what kind of Baptisia are you expecting? I noticed Kay has bookmarked info on co-ops. You do realize you are an enabler! Lol. She was impressed enough with the quality of the geraniums that she just placed an order with that company.
Aren’t you in the vicinity of Lackland AFB, Nada? I did my basic training there.
Have your DDs given you any breathing space yet, Carrie? I’ll take a lack of reply as a “no”. lol. (Jim)
Photo: Found yet another use for my industrial floor fan. De-chaffing beautyberries.


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carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 8, 2010
8:04 AM

Post #8087011

Sounds lovely, Jim.

Yes, one of them is back in AZ where it is just send me money for this, that and the other thing. The other is a strong contender for Miss Busiest Sixteen-Year-Old Massachusetts. Lessons on marimba, piano and voice, starring in Anything Goes, 5 AP or Honors level courses, Driver's Ed, so she can get her license and start driving HERSELF around --oh, and driving to physical therapy because she hurt her knee dancing in last spring's musical. I'm sure TAP DANCING in Anything Goes will put the icing on the PT. Plus she has a DBF in Connecticut. (!!!!!)
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 8, 2010
8:20 AM

Post #8087040

Jim,

Ready?

Baptisia minor (8)
Screaming Yellow (2)
Midnight Prairieblues (3)
Twilite Prairieblues (2)
Solar Flare Prairieblues (8)

The Screaming Yellow, Solar Flare, and two of the Midnights are going to my sister and my receptionist. The b.minors only get to be about two feet tall and wide, so they will be planted with roses along the front decorative fence. Having to ponder where to place the others. Deep taproots don't get along well with sewer or electric lines. :-0

Debra

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renatelynne
Boerne new zone 30, TX
(Zone 8b)

September 8, 2010
9:40 AM

Post #8087150

By Texas standards yes I am close to Lackland. By other standards... nope... It takes about 45 min to get there from my house.

I didn't know you could do something with the beautyberry berries. When are they ready?

Raining cats dogs and little elephants here...

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carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 8, 2010
10:17 AM

Post #8087227

B. minors?

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 8, 2010
10:19 AM

Post #8087232

I WSd one once; it was adorable and I planted it out but it got lost in the weeds. I lost track of it. :(

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 9, 2010
2:23 PM

Post #8089483

JIM, re growing your cannas in New England to flower - I got a call for new articles from my editor today, one on her list of suggestions was about canna varieties. Here was my answer:

I could do a little angle on the canna plants, but tell me if it's not enough of what you want. I know people in AL who are trying to raise money by selling their extra, wild cannas. They sent me one this summer. I potted it up but all it did was make magnificent purple foliage, no flower. The greenhouse-cannas planted in the street concrete tubs are all blooming (I don't know what variety) but I can't get mine to bloom. Maybe if they sent it earlier? They figure they need another source of spare money; nobody in New England is going to pay money for lovely foliage-only cannas. (They know exactly what species they sent me.) Is that close enough? of course I can take plenty of photos both of mine in my container garden and the ones blooming in the street.
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 11, 2010
7:45 AM

Post #8092744

Where is Vickie?!?!?!?
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

September 11, 2010
1:43 PM

Post #8093243

Hello, All. Computer troubles the last few days. Jim says he wants to hardwire the computers again. His older computer doesn’t like the wireless connection.
Well, Carrie. I’m sure you’ve heard that one about idle hands being the devil’s workshop. It sounds like your youngest DD should be safe. :-) Nadine has started working as a volunteer at the Rescue Mission Thrift Store. She is a very social animal and there aren’t as many people around as she is accustomed to since we aren’t open for business this growing season. It was her plan to only volunteer a day or two of her time a week. But most of the volunteers there are older and they are finding many uses for a strong, young back. :-) It will be interesting to see how long she lasts.
To the best of our collective knowledge, the dark leaf canna we sent is Canna indica purpurea. We debated among ourselves a long time over that one because the common name for it among elderly southerners is ‘Tropicana’ canna and it grows larger here than most authorities say it should. But, as Nadine’s picture above shows, the same can be said of many plants growing here. The flowers and rock-hard seeds leave no doubt it is an “Indian Shot” canna. I don’t know of any canna that has more cold tolerance than that one. They are the first up in the Spring and the last to go down in Winter. That is an interesting writing subject I think many people would appreciate. Are there canna especially bred for the north? My sister in VT says she misses canna lilies. She would love some to go near her backyard pool.
Jim constructed another raised bed for the Standing garden. He made it from a couple of old doors we had around and scrap lumber. He then covered it all with that relatively new sheet plastic product designed to resemble and be an alternative to sheets of tin as a roofing material. I had hopes for the product when I bought some to test. It was cheaper than tin sheets. There would be no rusting to worry about. It wasn’t completely opaque like tin. It gave a filtered light that ferns loved. It completely lacked tins durability though. Quickly becoming brittle and cracking easily in the Deep South version of direct sun. I will cover the outside of the raised bed in decorative concrete to keep it from direct sun using it only as a sub-surface water repellent material. We are hoping it will hold up and protect the wood on the inside of the planter, as is. All the stuff we used to make the planter is stuff we would have thrown away in our October clean-up if we hadn’t found a use for it so it is worth a try.
Nada, if the beautyberries are colored up they are ready for harvest, as far as I know. The infusion from the berries doesn’t taste good, but it improves dramatically when you add the sugar or other fruit juices. Tropical fruit and citrus taste best.
Debra, I wasn’t aware of some of those baptisia. I will be interested to hear how that works out. I recently sent Vickie a package, but I haven’t heard from her in weeks. I hope she is just out camping.
This time of year is our traditional time for re-thinking and revising. Deciding what worked during the last growing season and what didn’t. We are moving from a more individual, parallel approach back to a more communal way of working. I’ve been moving raised beds and plants out of what were individual plots and transforming what were specifically the Wheelchair Accessible and Standing gardens into one large communal garden where everyone works side-by-side and shares equally in the bounty. That system seems to work better for people with physical limitations because you can draw on one another’s strengths and compensate for one another’s weaknesses, like the way Jim and I work together. He is my eyes and I am his legs and back and we are able to move forward as a single entity. It requires trust and is not for those with ego issues, but it is the best system when you have the right group of people. Trying to emulate the way community gardens designed for T.A.P.s work was a mistake. (T.A.P.s=Temporary Able-bodied Persons—everyone experiences some degree of physical limitation, if they live long enough.) We are going back to the way we naturally did things in the beginning before we were labeled a “community garden” and were just a bunch of friends hanging together having fun while helping each other out. Kay*
Photo: Purple canna in flower.

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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

September 11, 2010
11:46 PM

Post #8094143

Thanks guys for not giving up on me. I got the puter and tapes.
Have been seriously depressed for several weeks. Decided yesterday. It's either hospital or force myself to get myself together.
LOL even my cat hated me after i brought home 2 kittens from my DD.s She's coming around finally.
Yesterday, I went to Dollar Tree and Hobby Lobby and Walmarts and bought silk flowers and Fall decorating things so i can put my mind to work decorating flower arraingements.I made myself get online and realzed how very much i have missed you guys.
This deprssion makes me think i need to isolate myself from the world and stick my head in a deep hole even tho i know its the wrong thing to do. Still have'nt gone camping!
Thanks Jim , I got the package and have played part of it. Hope to be able to appreciate it soon.Also looking forward to playing with the puter.
I did get the eye surgery. I can see better and was amazed at the colors i have been missing.
Amargia sounds like such a fantastic place.I feel so bad you won't be coming here. I did so much want to load you down with rocks, and maybe a kitten or two. LOL
Carrie, You'll have to talk your DD into making a visit to the Navaho and Hopi Indian Reservations. I hear it's quite an experience and gives a good representation of native americans.Wish i could go.
I was thinking about you when Earl was making his northerly track.
This is getting long and i'll write more tomorrow.
Vickie
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 12, 2010
8:51 PM

Post #8095848

We're still having computer problems over here, my little purple laptop is the only comp still working in the house right now. Vickie, hearing about kittens makes me want a kitty, Mama Kay and Papa Jim said no to the skunk I wanted. No cute little stinker for me.

Hey Debra, you were right about the thyme, I found this one in the blueberries, lol.

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 13, 2010
8:01 AM

Post #8096449

Kay, I wish we lived closer together. You are so creative and I could steal...um, borrow some of your ideas. LOL

Nadine, that's perfect. :-)

Jim, if you need parts, let me know and I will see if we have them.

Vickie, glad to hear you are okay. I have relatives living on the Navaho reservation, but they are in Shiprock, NM.

Carrie, hope you are feeling better. (hug)

Debra
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

September 13, 2010
7:15 PM

Post #8097732

If i ever go to Shiprock,I'll have to look them up.I'll probably just have to dream about it tho.
I have a grey kitten helping me type right now. Wont give her up tho. She's my buddy.A very vocal buddy.
I've been fighting depression all day. Have a councelor appointment tomorrow with DD.Wish us luck.
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

September 16, 2010
11:39 PM

Post #8103574

Watch that kitten, Vickie, it might start ordering stuff online. Hope the counceling appointment went well.

One of my uncles was a teacher on the Zuni reservation in NM and seriously into geology. I just thought Shiprock was the remnants of a volcanic tube? I assume now there is a city near the formation by that name? lol. He didn't mention that. Kay
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 17, 2010
7:22 AM

Post #8103906

Kay, yes, there is a small town named Shiprock. It's very close to the Four Corners area. My dad's brother and my aunt Minnie, who is Navajo, have lived there since they were married, in 1957, I think.

Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 17, 2010
2:09 PM

Post #8104528

Vickie, can I ask your opinion on something. The doctor concurred with MK‘s kitchen table diagnosis and put me on an anti-depressant. I don’t feel sad or emotionally depressed or anything like that. I just don’t have much energy or incentive. I have a weird sleep schedule that comes from too many years of working in restaurants, but I do get more than 8 hours of sleep in a 24-hour period. I still feel tired though, no matter how much sleep I get or when I get it. I thought it might be low iron or some kind of deficiency. . That is a chronic problem for me. A healthy diet and supplements help, but don’t eliminate all the symptoms. I’m still way more forgetful than someone my age has a right to be and have problems focusing. (I’ve heard ALL the dumb, blond jokes. I swear I’m going to start carrying around a certified copy of my IQ test. lol.)
Does any of this sound familiar? Does it sound like depression to you? It could be I simply don’t understand enough about Depression. I just know my Dad had physical depression and his outlook on life was dark. He had an ironic, gallows humor attitude. I’m not at all like that. While I’m no Pollyanna, my outlook is generally sunny and positive. I guess it could manifest different ways in different people. I reserve the right to question a doctor’s diagnosis, however, and educate myself.
Friday is our housekeeping day. I’m creating a funky container for my newest pet. A Venus flytrap purchase from the same nursery the geraniums came from. PJ got a new bay laurel that will spend its first winter here inside. MK, a lemon verbena that went immediately into the Fragrance garden. I think it has the strongest lemon scent (and taste) than any of the other plants in the “lemony” bed. MK did decide to sort the plants in the Fragrance garden by categories of scent. I think it will be a challenge to put some plants into a single scent category, but I’m sure she will come up with a solution. She may actually end up creating that dictionary of scents and scent words she jokes about creating by the time she is through. She may have to just to organize the garden in the way she imagines. lol. ~Nadine~

lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 17, 2010
3:35 PM

Post #8104684

Nadine, I've been medicated for anxiety and, off and on for depression, for awhile..um, about 30 years. LOL If you are not sleeping eight hours straight through and are not resting when asleep, it may be fatigue (which can lead to depression, but isn't always). Sleep apnea could be the cause, too. A little personal, but if you snore, that's sometimes an indicator of apnea. The anti-depressants can help regulate your sleep. If you are still tired, maybe a sleep test would be helpful. :-)

Debra
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 19, 2010
2:37 PM

Post #8108044

One of the kids from work came this morning and brushed all the siding on my house and garage; got up on the roof, swept debris out of the crannies. (Paint is flaking in too many places to use a power washer.) Poor guy started at 8:00 and was whipped by 11:00. The house looks much neater, now, though.

The new Mondo grass under the cedar elm died from lack of water. But there is "weed" type of tufting grass that looks like a fine fescue growing all along my garage. So I dug up four or five of them and moved them under the tree. If they survive with no water whatsoever except rain, and look gorgeous anyway (to me), then why not try them as intentional plantings, eh? :-D Also planted eight Alstroemerias and three Daylilies (including one transplant). Potted two Clematis, eight Baptisia, and a Verbena. Cleaned out a little of the dead foliage from the Irises and Daylilies. Watered the roses a bit before I gave out. It is still way too hot and it is humid and I am tuckered! Have 25 Corepsis left to plant, but they will be fine in the trays until tomorrow or next week or...LOL

Debra

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Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 19, 2010
4:59 PM

Post #8108343

Arrgh, ahoy mates. It's national talk like a pirate day.
Debra, I've decided to stay on the anti-depressants for two more weeks and just play it by ear.
I've been watching an anime series about immortal gangsters in the 1930s. MK also has me reading Grapes of Wrath, that combined with dealing with a territorial red squirrel who's got a peculiar way of keeping people away from his favorite tree gave me the weirdest dream. My latest drawing is the result of all that.

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 19, 2010
7:41 PM

Post #8108730

Nadine,

Ears are fine things to play by, do it all the time myownself. Hope you get energized soon. :-)

Love the squirrel's expression.

Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 20, 2010
10:31 PM

Post #8111249

Debra, I can throw some clumps of blue fescue in the next package that goes your way, if your interested. It likes the shade and it has got to be tough. MK has it growing in the hollow cavities of concrete blocks that top a wall. Melinda says the wall needs to be higher for safety and we are not going to have anything growing atop the new wall. I love the color. I think it must be related to our native wiregrass. The only difference I can see is wiregrass doesn't have such bluish tones. The SW Georgia, SE Alabama and NW Florida region is called The Wiregrass Area, but wiregrass is being push out by new types of grasses that have been introduced. MK has us leave the wiregrass alone or collect it for re-planting elsewhere when we weed. She calls it "a good placeholder". Wiregrass is a shallow rooted clumper. It is very easy to pull up. That can't be said for most of the grasses around here. Ironically, by encouraging the wiregrass weeding is made easier.
Better get to bed. Cleaning out the barn tomorrow. MK isn't the only one required to do away with collected junk this time of year. A lot of the clutter in the barn is mine. They are threatening to search me on Thursdays when I come home from the Rescue Mission Thrift Store before allowing me back on the property. lol. I inevitably see stuff I would like to have myself while cleaning and sorting and Thursdays are "$2 for everything you can fit in a bag" days so I end up buying the stuff that caught my eye that week. Maybe not the best volunteer work for someone with collecting tendencies. lol. I'm getting quite a collection of froggie figurines. lol. Got to get rid of the old junk so I can get the new junk in there. ~Nadine~
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 21, 2010
8:27 AM

Post #8111813

Nadine,

Would love some grass. Trying to keep all the plantings around the tree and to the right of tree basically foliage and let the rest of the yard have the blossoms. So I have boxwood and rosemary, heucheras, hostas, and Aquilegias, all of which do surprisingly well in hot dry Texas shade.

I could NOT work at a thrift store. My house is small and already full of 'stuff'. Would have to build an extension just for china and pottery if I did...LOL

Debra
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 22, 2010
6:12 PM

Post #8115225

HEYYYYY!!!! Where is everbody? :-D
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 24, 2010
7:36 AM

Post #8118123

D-mailed Carrie. She said tell everyone she's fine, just really really busy right now. :-)

Debra

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 24, 2010
10:12 AM

Post #8118414

DD#1 worked at a thrift store - it was the death of her. Blue fescue is easy to start from seed, if you want to. I can look around and see if I have some, of you would like.

Pain is making it hard to sleep, which is making it hard to think.
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

September 25, 2010
12:27 AM

Post #8119743

Nadene,No energy can be a big symptom of depression,However if you have had problems with anemia, The 2 together could really give you problems. I've had both for most of my life.My psychiatrist in Texas told me to get the iron suppliment Feosol(over the counter)and take it everyday of my life. I still do. You also need vitamin B12 too, since B12 and iron have to work together.
With the anti depressant. It takes 2 weeks to even start working. It's hard to get you regulated at first, You might have to take more or even 2 different kinds to get regulated. Don't ever take Paxel. For some people (like me) it sends them into a semi catonic stupor. It ought to be taken off the market.
Depression is not a fun disease. Hang in there girl. You're going to get better.People who get the disease depression tend to be more intelligent and artistic.Like Lincoln,Picasso,Einstein.
We could have so much fun shopping together. I love thrift stores, Flea Markets, and yard sales. No one in my family will go with me. They all run the other way.
Hope you all sleep well and pain free.
Hugs
Vickie
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 26, 2010
10:15 AM

Post #8121911

Jim, sending an Apache War Dance and a surprise one tomorrow. Hope they make you as happy as they have made me. :-)

Only supposed to get to 83 or so today. Time to get those 25 Coreopsis in the ground...and maybe pull some weeds...trim shrubs...bag recyclables...clean up dead foliage...oh my, maybe on thing at a time. LOL

Debra
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 26, 2010
2:34 PM

Post #8122291

Carrie, love to try some fescue seed if you have it, thanks. :-)

Think I overdid it this afternoon. Pulled a 39 gallon lawn bag full of weedgrasses and cedar elm seedlings (barely made a dent in the weeds and there are THOUSANDS of seedlings); moved a dwarf Russian Sage, a variegated Liriope, and two Iris (dunno if they are yellow or purple); planted and watered in: four of THE most expensive daylilies I've ever seen (committed to buy before looking at price list LOL), two quart pots of Pink Liatris, three Ruby/Magenta Dianthus, three Sunset Snapdragons, one each Merlot and Carefree Sunshine Echinaceas; potted two Purple Aster hybrids that are supposed to be low water once established; trimmed back heat damage on a large Provence Lavender, an Anouk Lavender, a Summer Sorbet Caryopteris, a Lemon Thyme, a wild pink shrub rose, and a Powis Castle Artemisia; pulled some Daylilies to ship out tomorrow...BUT...DID NOT PLANT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY COREOPSIS!!!! Arggg. At least I did move the tray up front and the weather is supposed to be in the low 80s first part of the week. Trying to convince myself that I will get them in the ground by Wednesday. Mebbe Ise will and mebbe eye-s won't. Everyone send "You...will...do...this...You...will...do...this..." thought waves my way!

Debra

Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 26, 2010
7:32 PM

Post #8122928

It has been an exhausting week! I just couldn’t deal with going thru all my Dad’s belongings right after he died. His stuff has been stored in the barn here for years. I finally went thru it all and sorted out what I wanted to keep. It was a L-O-T of stuff. Now I know where I got my packrat tendencies. :-)
PJ has started turning the “baby barn” into living space by insolating the walls and putting up wall board over the exposed beams. PJ and MK debated long and hard the last few days on whether the structure should be called a barn or a shed. Papa Jim said since it is small and no animals have ever lived there it should be called a shed. Mama Kay says the traditional barn roof- line and the barn-style double doors make it a barn. They settled on calling it the “baby barn”. lol.
There turned out to be 17 dwarf Cavendish banana trees in the little space around the satellite dish. MK got them all dug and moved. The top growth of bananas is always turned to mush by our January cold. They come back from the roots when it begins to warm. MK feels certain they will return next year their normal size. The SE corner of the original property has taken on a tropical look with their addition. That is the section I eventually plan to take on as my own. I like the look. Even if they never fruit I like the huge leaves splotched with burgundy. MKs concern is that the area is too windy and the leaves will get a tattered look from the constant buffeting. I don’t think that will be a problem when they re-assume their natural size of about 5’ or 6’. The slope of the land and some evergreen shrubs should protect them from the wind at that height.
I found a product called SleepMax that is available from Walgreens. It contains a combination of chamomile, passionflower and melatonin that helps me sleep and doesn’t leave me feeling hung over in the morning. Hopefully, that will help me get back on a normal sleep schedule. Fenny and Tater-dog are doing their part to help me. SOMEONE lets them into my rooms if I’m still not up by 9:30. They poke, paw, lick, whine and bark until I give up and get out of bed. They attack their task with such single-minded determination I suspect they get treats when they succeed. lol.
Vickie, I found an adorable little angel figurine that MK said you would probably like. I was thinking an angel motif for the new baby barn living space since MK wants pristine white as the interior paint color. (The outside is painted the same colors as the house.)
We will have to come up with a w/c user’s equivalent of “shop til you drop.” When my ankle is bad I use “shop til you can’t hop.”
MK has some B-complex. I’ll start taking that at the same time I take my iron.

Photo: Close-up of blooming lantana standard ‘Ham & Eggs’

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

September 27, 2010
4:37 PM

Post #8124643

Nadine, sounds like my dogs when they think it's past time for breakfast. I'm not a religious person, but think there almost have to be angels so a monochrome angelic motif sounds wonderful. :-)
Debra
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

September 29, 2010
10:12 PM

Post #8128985

I have all my things re-organized, except for my books. I need to build a bookshelf for those. I’m glad I bucked convention and took shop in high school. I can do minor projects like that myself and PJ has the tools that make it easy.
The goldenrods are blooming so Kay is talking about moving to the New Mexican desert. lol. She does that every year when fall allergy season arrives. She will give up on over-the-counter allergy meds soon and get her expensive allergy prescription re-filled. Once she has that, she will remember that the majority of NM flora isn’t a pleasant tactile experience and forget all about the desert until next year. The neighbor would let us mow down the goldenrods, but MK says they are not the culprit. They are just the messengers that fall allergy season has arrived. Killing the messenger wouldn’t help.
I think the angels in the barn will be a fun juxtaposition. (lol. I like the sound of that word. I’ve always wanted an excuse to use it.) To open the doors of a rustic barn and find satin pillows, lace curtains and lots of pearlized, ultra-feminine accessories will be a blast. ~Nadine~
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cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

September 30, 2010
6:23 AM

Post #8129256

Nadene, I'm on your train of thought. Also a pink shovel with a big pink bow and a white chicken sitting on a pink saten pillow.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

September 30, 2010
1:44 PM

Post #8130124

I'll have to get some of that SleepMax for DH. He has a terrible time sleeping - he dreams about work when he's asleep and frets about work when he's awake and he works 70-80 hours most weeks. But he is ExTRA sensitive to Rx medication - if he takes one of my Ambien, for instance, he'll sleep for a week. Me, I'm lucky if I get 2 hours good sleep out of it. Ambien is considered a "standard" sleep-aid in hospital, for instance; almost everyone automatically is allowed to get it if they can't sleep b/c hospitals are so loud and bright and not conducive to sleeping. I'll get some right now online.
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

September 30, 2010
9:40 PM

Post #8130918

I’m in boiled peanut heaven! The boss-lady brought in bags and bags of freshly boiled, white jumbo peanuts to sell at the store. I snagged a few bags for myself. We are coming to the end of peak boiled peanut season, but it goes out with a bang with this especially good type of peanut. My Dad was from coastal SC so we always had boiled peanuts around August thru November, but he preferred the smaller, red peanuts. I didn’t develop a taste for them boiled until I had a bag of the white, jumbo type at the local Peanut Festival Fair. I’ve been hooked ever since..
Vickie, the white hen nesting on a satin cushion is a must! ROFL.
Debra, the daylilies arrived this morning in excellent condition. Most are in containers to be pampered for awhile so they don’t go into transplant shock. I looked at their photos in PlantFiles. The colors are incredible on all of them. I’m particularly looking forward to seeing ‘Mose’s Fire’ in bloom.
Carrie, toward the end of my time in CT, I was only able to keep going with the help of high potency energy drinks and sleep meds. I was burning out fast. The deep south didn’t prepare me for things being so fast-paced. I just decided I would rather have more time and less money. No house payments or other financial responsibilities to keep me from doing what I wanted so I decided I would be happier working at a lower paying job and having more time. Still have my fingers crossed I did the right thing. The job I thought I would have when I got back hasn’t materialized. I’ve even started putting in resumes at fast food places just to have a regular paycheck. Even there, I haven’t had success yet. They usually have high employee turn-over and I am more than qualified for that sort of work. I thought it would be a cinch. Everyone seems to be clinging to whatever job they have at the moment though and no one is expanding because of the current economic situation. Not TOO worried yet. MK has lots of little ventures to keep me in pocket money and I don’t have many expenses. I’m the kind of person who needs a dependable, regular income to feel secure, however. I’m not cut out to be an independent business person. Even when the money is there, the sense of security isn’t.
I’m the only one up and about today. MK is feverish from a sinus infection and PJ is in more pain than usual. He says it is because he had to stand in line at the courthouse a long time to renew vehicle tags this morning. I think they have both just overdone it lately. Halloween decorating tomorrow. That isn’t too strenuous. ~Nadine~

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 1, 2010
8:48 AM

Post #8131457

Oh, Nadine, you were in disguise! I didn't recognize you and was very confused until the end (I didn't know Jim had an uncle from the south ... I thought he grew up in PA, not CT, whoa, what's happening, is Jim looking for a job? I'm getting dizzy, the room is spinning ...everything's getting blurry and distant) ... IT'S NADINE!
cando1
Ozone, AR
(Zone 6a)

October 1, 2010
2:35 PM

Post #8132043

LOL Carrie, I thought at first it was Jim too.Must have been 2 mind burps.
Nadine, It was'nt nice to mention boiled peanuts. We do not have them around here,except in cans from one store. UGH! I had my first taste when i went south a few years ago.and loved them.One gets strange looks if one asks for them here.Have you ever heard the rebel song Goobers Peas? What Peanut Festavle Fair? When?
There's a package for Amargia on its way. Just a few odds and ends.
Went to DR. yesterday. Everytime i go into town have to stop in and get my BP checked for him. And a biggie,I need to call and have a home care person start coming out to do housework and med stuff for me. SSI will pay.I still plan on traveling tho.
Hope you find a job you like soon. I'm forever remembering trivia things. Sometime i read of some women making pretty good money working as paid housewives(not what you think LOL) They shop pay bills etc for single workers who make a lot of money.
Gentle hugs for Kay and Jim.
Vickie
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

October 1, 2010
3:50 PM

Post #8132161

Sorry for the confusion, as Debra says too quickie on the clickie. We like having all the Amargia related stuff on one computer so you don't have to search through 3 computers to find the photo or information you want and you save overall computer memory space by not putting data into triplicates. (PJ says he had enough of that in the military.) but since it is set up so you simply have to click on your user name, it is also simple to goof up. Sxipper makes things too easy and it doesn't always work right on the Amargia computer anyway. I'll make password notebooks for PJ and I and make it so we have to put in our personal password and REMEMBER TO LOGOUT. We are all bad about not doing that. I take a break and when I come back to the computer just assume I'm still the one logged in when SOMEONE has logged me out so they can check their Dmail. Ah-h-h, the joys of communal living. Generally speaking, Momma Kay's is the Amargia computer, PJ's is set up for gaming and holds the book downloads and mine holds the music and movie downloads. BTW: I would be happy to make MK a passwords notebook, but it would need to be in Braille and I don't know Braille that well. Besides, she is the one Papa Bear and I ask for help when we can't remember OUR passwords.
We aren't sure what this bloom is yet, but I thought it was pretty. ~Nadine~

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 1, 2010
4:16 PM

Post #8132194

Looks like Oxblood Lily.
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/54021/

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 1, 2010
5:11 PM

Post #8132270

VERY pretty! I love that color.
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

October 2, 2010
1:19 PM

Post #8133356

SOMEONE apologizes for their part in the confusion. SOMEONE should have logged Nadine back in or used their own system to check their mail.
Maybe I should consider creating a red garden. My thanks x 2, Debra. The daylilies will be a beautiful addition and I would have spent hours trying to figure out what the newest mystery flower was. Oxblood lily, it is. I will try to get that one multiplying since it is a good xera-scape plant. Many of our bulbs came along with the TX and OK natives who moved here in mass in the 1950’s to work at the newly created Ft. Rucker. I guess it makes sense some Texas garden heirlooms will pop up. Might help me ID them to watch the Texas regional forum. I’ll get your package on its way Monday.
Vickie, Kay is Braille-ing on some newly acquired rocks and oh-h-hing and ah-h-hing over them. I don’t suppose you know anything about that? Something that looks like a carved egg now graces her desk. She has christened it her “thinking rock.” Oh well, as long as she isn’t calling it her “throw at my husband cuss I think he’s being a toad” rock. You are something else, Lady! ROFL!!! That must have been expensive to ship! BTW: That was a neat and clever way to store seeds. Some kind of wonem’s make-up whatchamacallit, I am assuming?
Have the fall color changes started there yet, Carrie?
I haven’t seen renatelynne in a while. Anyone seen her elsewhere on DG? Hope she’s okay.
Sheri, you’ve got Nadine researching flying squirrels. Don’t be surprised if your new buddy shows up in our forum’s Sunday funnies. I have never seen one of those except in photos and hangin’ with Bullwinkle. (Jim)


Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

October 2, 2010
7:51 PM

Post #8134056

Wow, I must have been more sleepy than I thought. Slept all the way to Christmas. That’s what it felt like. I appreciate the extra emotional lift as much as the wonderful things. It was so thoughtful of both of you.
Thank you, Debra. I need to take plant packaging lessons from you. The daylilies arrived in peak condition. There were enough of the Moses’ Fire that a couple did end up in Nadine’s corner sort of. They are in the border. Looking forward to sniffing the ‘Passion for Red’. A daylily with even a slight scent will be an unexpected surprise for most. Hope you aren't pushing yourself too hard to get things done.
Vickie, don’t worry. I would never throw what JIM is calling my “thinking rock” at him. I wouldn’t want to hurt my new “MEDITATION rock”. :-) Jim planted some of the fall vegetable seeds from the package this afternoon. Nadine is already planning what angel figurine will go where and we haven’t even finished insulating the roof yet. That’s a good moneymaking idea you had. Nadine is reliable and trustworthy enough she would be good at that. When Jim’s arm goes numb and he doesn’t trust himself to drive, he just gives her his keys and bankcard and sends her to the store. I don’t know many 20-somethings I would be comfortable doing that with. I’m not even sure I would have done that with my own at that age. Trustworthiness SHOULD be a marketable trait.
Carrie, with all the new regulations since 911, I imagine any sort of job connected to commercial aviation is stressful. Hope the SleepMax works for your DH. Valerian root, by itself, is good if little aches and pains or muscle tension is part of the cause.
Most over-the-counter allergy meds make me drowsy, but I thought I would try Claritin before I went to the trouble of renewing my allergy prescription. Forget that! With insurance, my prescription is actually the better deal. I give up. I’ll call the doctor Monday. You do know Nadine is not going to let me forget this anytime soon. She's so smug about it when she's right. :-) Kay*

lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 3, 2010
10:08 AM

Post #8134764

Kay, I am really glad you are back.

I've gone Daylily crazy the last six weeks. Ah, the insidious danger of plant co-ops... Learned a lot about packing plants from what I received, though. Had told Jim I would send the Apache, but the other two were so prolific, even just in pots, and had such wonderful NOT PINK color, I wanted to share them, too. :-D My only problem is that now I have about 12 still left to put in the ground and will have to dig a new bed to accommodate them. ACK! I'm soooo lazy when it comes to the boring stuff--like digging out heavy clay. LOL

Personal shoppers can make a pretty good living. Cleaning and cooking are not necessarily part of the deal, but going to the cleaners and pharmacy and grocery and department store and DIY store for a client might be fun for Nadine. She'd get to socialize with all kinds of people and truly help at the same time. Don't know the rules in Alabama, but it isn't that difficult to be bonded in Texas. She could certainly use that as reassurance to the client. I think an angel had to have guided her to you and Jim, so I am wholeheartedly in support of the angel decor. :-)

Hey, Carrie, is it too late to plant anything where you are? I still have 25 plugs of Coreopsis Sienna Sunset and Route 66. Be happy to send you some to make up for the Echinacea I killed. :-) First photo is Sienna Sunset

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 3, 2010
10:09 AM

Post #8134767

The Route 66 color and patterning will be different from plant to plant, but will all be some variation of cream/yellow with burgundy centers and speckles.

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carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 3, 2010
6:58 PM

Post #8135679

I REALLY like Sienna Sunset, but is it hardy this far north? And I hardly feel that you "owe" me anything; you have been too kind, and I promised you monarda that I never sent. I guess it's too late. Maybe not.

Fall is a GREAT time to plant perennials -- I wrote a whole article about it once. The earth is warm, the stress of summer is past, they have 6-8 weeks or more to settle in before it freezes, and then with any luck, it will snow and insulate the earth so the roots can keep growing.

I bought achillea something red and dianthus or carnation for a windowbox,
Sansai87
Midland City, AL

October 3, 2010
7:15 PM

Post #8135720

I’m not smug! I merely seek deserved recognition of my prognostication talents. Told ya so….Told ya so….told ya so. Okay, now that I’ve got that out of my system. Lol. Can you all do me a favor and keep that “Nadine is dependable and reliable” stuff quiet and just among yourselves. A rumor like that could be social suicide if any peers my own age get wind of it. I’ve had to live a double life since I’ve joined the adult conspiracy. :-)
Vickie, I would have been content just with the angel figurine, but Papabear can’t resist tinkering. Angel goes around and plays music again. It sounds like a jazzed up version of “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. Way cool!
I learned a lot of things about squirrels while looking at squirrel images. The major thing I discovered is that flying squirrels are hard to draw. I’m going to have to work at that a little more. Had to fudge on this week’s drawing a little.
I didn’t know there was so much variety in coreopsis! I just knew the straight species my Dad called tickseed (Stuck with a name like that who would think of it as something nice.) and that one that was so popular for a while that you saw it everywhere. ‘Moonbeam’? Will the named cultivars grow in less than ideal soil like the straight species? ~Nadine~

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 4, 2010
8:31 AM

Post #8136542

I have "Moonbeam" all over my darn yard: the fertile places, the sandy cracks, the rocky, dry crevices, everywhere. On the other hand I've planted other coreopsis "something Ruby" never came back and "Autumn Blush" prefers a little coddling.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/535/
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 4, 2010
11:20 AM

Post #8136922

Carrie, hardy to Zone 5a. Send you a couple tomorrow...

Nadine, not sure, but I'll send you some to try. Do you have a preference or would you like to try each?

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 4, 2010
12:14 PM

Post #8137029

THANK YOU, Debra. I am in my office which already bears signs of your largess. All I need to do is seduce or otherwise persuade DH to put up the curtain rod and make me some shelves for the outside plants that are coming in. He could put up a windowbox for those dianthus/carnations, too. Windowboxxes on this, uphill facing side of the house do much better because they don't have to be watered. The ones along the street side ALWAYS need supplemental watering (because they're under this huge eave) and they're the only thing that does, so they suffer.
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

October 5, 2010
11:24 AM

Post #8139292

I worked from dawn to dusk in the garden yesterday. Didn't get up until 9:30 this morning. lol.
Nighttime temps are dipping down into the 40's already and aloe vera can be damaged by that. Had to move all the seriously tropical plants to winter quarters. In my attemps to simplify, I've been trying to cut down on those type of plants. However, I want to hang on to the more-than-ornamental ones like the edible ginger and the aloe. Jim also has a few he is attached to like his ponytail palms.
The corner where the overly enthusiastic bananas were is finally cleared entirely and ready for a more thought out planting. Taking some time to do the research so I can find the perfect plants for the sunny, moist site that do not get tall enough to interfere with the satellite dish. It is by the concrete bridge into the fragrant garden so I think I want something fragrant. Haven't found the perfect plant yet. Was considering sweet flag, but I'm afraid those would get out of control quickly and grow into the irrigation trench, blocking it.
Heard the storms that hit the Carolina's so hard have moved up into the NE. Need a boat, Sheri? Or, was your area spared the worst of it?
Carrie, we have to water containers in the sun as much as twice a day to keep them going in the summer. It was suggested I mix pieces of sponge into the soil for water retention. (We often have an overabundance of luffa sponges so it was suggested we could take out two birds with one stone. The lady who suggested it used those cheap kitchen sponges.) Have you ever heard of anything like that? I've used water crystals, but they aren't cheap and I wonder how environmentally sound they are.
Debra, the package didn't make it out yesterday, but it is on its way now. Either you are an extremely generous person or really, REALLY don't want to face digging that hard clay. lol. (You can store the glad bulbs til Spring.) My arthritis can't hold up to much digging of our red clay. I dig a little hole with a mineral pick, fill it with water, wait for the water to be absorbed and soften the surrounding clay, removed the soften layer of clay, fill it again with water, shovel out the softened bit...and so on. It can take me several days to dig the planting hole for a shrub or small tree. lol.
Sent a book I thought you would enjoy, Vickie, and a little something to defer the cost of sending the package with the stones. I love them all. Keeping them to myself is a challenge I've just given up on. Kids are fascinated by them. Fortunately, rocks are washable and not damaged by gummy worm goo. The one that made such a good pen holder ended up on Nadine's desk. Her rationality is that it isn't the right size for a Brailled stylus and when I sign things it is usually at her desk because she knows how to position a blind person's signature guide. Nadi and Jim say your rocks are more interesting than mine...and lots easier to lift. lol. Kay*
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 5, 2010
4:44 PM

Post #8139823

Kay, maybe some of both? :-) I have been isolated for a long time. This place has made me feel less alone. Which is worth a lot. Currently, I have the means to indulge my growing plant, um, obsession, and I know how easily those circumstances can change. It does make me feel good to share. AND, if I offset how much I get by giving some away, then I can justify *continuing* to indulge... LOL. But, it is also a way for me to pay forward the generosity of those who gave to me when I didn't have ANY means. Which also makes me feel good. Guess the short answer is--it's fun. :-)

Debra

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 5, 2010
5:35 PM

Post #8139908

Debra, that is such a beautiful way to express a lovely sentiment! Thank you.

We're getting a French exchange student on Sunday for 2 weeks; I'm terrified! We don't usually eat together much or anything family-like anymore. We have to act like a "normal" family for 2 weeks, except DH's about to have a meltdown, we NEVER eat vegetables or together or healthy food or anything. For instance tonight, I had a piece of my healthy bread w/ creamy (yuck) PB and J and a glass of milk at the computer. DD#2 had Disney Princesses chicken noodle soup and ginger ale in her room. (Leftovers from when she was sick last week!)
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

October 7, 2010
6:59 AM

Post #8142543

Carrie, take Debra's short answer and run with it. That sounds like it could be fun. Relax and enjoy it. “Normal” is one of those words like “forever”. We all use it, but none of us can truly define it. Or, my personal favorite, “they”. Who are “they?” Like, “THEY say Obama is cutting NASA's funding.”
I want the names of those villainous “they” who say all the things I don’t agree with. Identifying those wise and intelligent “they” who share my own opinions never seems so important. lol.
There was frosty condensation on the windows this morning. The cotton rose (Hibiscus mutabilis) is beginning to bloom and the oranges to color. Spider lilies (Lycoris radiata) everywhere. Jim and I have once again picked up our ongoing debate about which flowers are and are not to be called by the common name “spider lily.” :-) I think I will try to find the white blooming version of those. Raking pine straw and mulching around tender perennials and shrubs today.
Have a good day. All!
Kay*

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 9, 2010
5:01 PM

Post #8147321

Kay, maybe you, or someone else, can tell me the answer to my question (I have had for a loooong time); why are fruits and veggies sweeter after it gets colder? Like oranges and (I've heard) cabbages and kings,
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 9, 2010
5:24 PM

Post #8147348

Kay, Jim, Nadine,

Package received. THANK YOU! The book is great and I am planting the grass this weekend. One of "my" kids is coming over early to dig a trench along the rose fence so we can put a paver border in, maybe help keep the *#%(&^(*#$& never-to-be-sufficiently-cursed runner grass in check. The red daylilies will be going in with the roses instead of in a new bed by the curb, so I am thinking maintenance will be easier. I am feeling much better with the cooler temperatures and hope to get a lot done tomorrow. :-)

Debra
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 10, 2010
7:32 AM

Post #8148143

The father of one of my kids took down this tree at my house. So the back yard is going from this:

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lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 10, 2010
7:45 AM

Post #8148162

To this:

He will be back later in the week to remove the remaining chunks and finish digging out the stump. I am sad because I loved the funkiness of the tree. Used to string a clothes line between two of the trunks until one of the grandkids playing on it caused it to crack at the base and drop too low to keep sheets out of the dirt. The littlest dog liked to climb it, too. :-) And I am also excited because it took up a LOT of room. When I first moved into the house, there were five Rose of Sharons along the front driveway. Moved one to the side yard and it has never been really happy there. We are going to move it to the back little more than midway along the fence toward the right where you can see that hunk of concrete (recycled, thank you very much! LOL). Then I am thinking of putting a redbud tree in along the fence where all the chunks are now. That would leave the corner and strip alongside the garage for a raised vegetable bed. Would get direct sun from about 10:00am to 3:30pm. Bet I could grow SOMETHING there. Whatcha think?

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Sansai87
Midland City, AL

October 10, 2010
10:00 PM

Post #8149653

Carrie, Amargia’s walking encyclopedia of not-quite-useless information tells me plants sweeten up in the fall and winter sun because the plant’s photosynthesis process is still going at the usual rate, turning sunlight to sugar to feed the plant, but the plant isn’t using all the sugar. It doesn’t need it all because the cool air temperature has slowed down its life processes. (Actually, MK said “its respiration”, but I think most people will have as much trouble thinking of plants breathing as I do. I’m more comfortable with “life processes”.) The plant doesn’t need all the glucose it is taking in to survive so the extra sugar is stored in its leaves, fruit or roots making them taste sweeter. Sort of the way many people fatten up in the winter because they are eating well but not active enough in cool weather to burn off the calories they are taking in.
Yours sounds like a “normal” American family to me. :-) You might want to consider something like a Boston Boiled Dinner while she/he is staying with you. It’s regional fare, it’s healthy and it is simple to prepare.
Debra, the package you sent came in yesterday morning. Thanks very much. The soil in my little corner of Amargia is lean and sandy. Still in the reclamation process. I’m still using the tough beauties MK calls “pioneer plants’ while the soil is slowly being improved. I think coreopsis can survive with just a little help. I discovered mulch makes a huge difference with sandy soil. The soil would be bone dry only a few hours after I watered before I started using mulch. I’m using paper fed through a micro-fine shredder. It doesn’t look as bad as I was afraid it would. It doesn’t look much different from crushed seashell which is often used here. And wow, that WAS a funky-looking tree.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Milton, MA
(Zone 6a)

October 11, 2010
9:14 AM

Post #8150298

Nadine, thank Kay VERY MUCH for me! That answers a question I've wondered about for a looooong time, and of course plants respire!!! You KNOW they take in CO2 and give off O2, and we do the reverse, right? Don't think of it as "breathing," think of it as "respiration;" that might be easier for your unfinished brain.

Debra, I wish I didn't have an "able-bodied" husband who's really not. People look at me and they don't see a 'poor single lady with MS and two kids," they see an apparently intact family where the stunningly beautiful wife/mother is (for some mysterious unknown reason) in a W/C and the healthy, normal (~) kids and husband are LAZY and USELESS, They don't see that half (well, ok, a quarter) of the pills in the bathroom are THEIRS and that DH has crippling arthritis and depression and DD#1 has crippling ADD and DEPRESSION and DD#2 has depression and ASTHMA bad enough to need a whole pharmacy's worth of pills, etc.

Why am I and everyone around me suffering from depression????
lovemyhouse
(Debra) Garland, TX

October 11, 2010
10:14 AM

Post #8150426

Carrie,

Too much social pressure, too much employment pressure, too much environmental pressure, too much biological breakdown from all the pressure. It's all just too much. Plus lots of people are inconsiderate, thoughtless asses who don't know--yet--what it is like to have chronic illness of any sort. Spit in their eyes. If you have never watched Addams Family Values, do that. Check out Wednesday's "We're not shy, we're contagious." I much prefer arrant defiance to sweetly forgiving as a tool to help me deal with these kind of people. Unless, of course, you use a sweetly forgiving front as a tactic to make the ignorant offender feel horrible. I'm all for that!!!! There's an axiom in the South. You can get away with saying anything tp anybody as long as you end it with "Bless your heart." "Oh, I know you can't help being so rude, you were just raised that way. Bless your heart." You get the idea. Makes one feel tons and tons better. :-)

Debra
Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

October 11, 2010
7:40 PM

Post #8151338

LOL!!! YES, and don't forget to call them "honey", "sugar", "sweetie", "darlin'" or "cher" while you are cutting them so low they have to look up to see a snake's belly. :-)Kay*

Sansai87
Midland City, AL

October 12, 2010
11:53 AM

Post #8152398

My “unfinished brain”. I like that, Carrie. What a perfect way to describe it. So often I don’t follow trains of thought all the way through to the end. A word or phrase calls up some strange visual image and distracts me. I hear about plants “slowing their respiration” and see the leaves outside turning their fall yellow. The image of plants donned in saffron robes like Buddhist monks practicing their yoga breathing exercises seizes my mind and I start thinking of ways I could draw it.
The plants giving off oxygen and freshening the air is how MK soothes PJ’s ruffled feathers when he complains about the “winter jungle” inside the house. It isn’t quite as bad this year as it has been in former years since MK is simplifying by giving away plants that need a lot of special care. PJ doesn’t dare complain this year since most of the tropicals are his foliage plants. A slow growing bottle palm (ponytail palm, Beaucarnea recurvata) he grew from a tiny seedling is beginning to develop a true trunk (above ground bulb? Bottle?). Anyway, whatever it is supposed to be called, he is excited about it.
I agree with everything Debra says about the sources of Depression. The only things I would add is I believe that media sets us up with unrealistic expectations about life and that makes people feel unsatisfied with their lives. Also, I wonder if diet is a factor. Growing up with a diabetic I’ve seen how much blood sugar levels control mental function and mental outlook. It seems logical that the way most of us eat puts us on a blood sugar roller coaster. I know diabetes is on the rise and wonder if that goes hand-in-hand with the rise in the number of people battling Depression. It could be that the psychological symptoms show up long before problems can be diagnosed with a glucose tolerance test. Every diabetic I have ever known battled Depression. What we eat has changed dramatically in the last 100 years and our bodies just can’t adapt that quickly to the changes. I’m considering going back to school and getting a degree in Nutritional Science. Can you tell? :-) I love the kitchen chemistry of cooking, but don’t like the stresses of working in restaurants. ~Nadine~

Amargia
SE/Gulf Coast Plains, AL
(Zone 8b)

October 12, 2010
5:34 PM

Post #8153000

I feel a deep sympathy for those with “invisible” problems. I can’t count the times I’ve heard people say “Oh, I’m sorry. I just forget you can’t see sometimes” whenever they make a verbal faux pa. My eyes are filmed over by mature cataracts. The pupils are silvered and the color is distorted to an odd shade of green. My left and right eyes look different from each other. I use a white cane or a sighted guide, if I’m not on the property. I don’t understand how they can FORGET I’m blind with all the visual reminders. .
How much harder must it be for those who don’t show any obvious physical manifestation of the limitation they are trying to cope with. (Physical depression IS a physical limitation. Too many people think of it as some sort of purely emotional issue.)
People made simple task like shopping difficult for Jim before his back problems were apparent. He took an emotional battering in addition to the pain he was trying to deal with. Strangers would express their displeasure because he stood by and let me handle the heavy things when we went shopping together. Implying he was lazy or some kind of tyrant because I lifted the 40 lb. bag of dog food in the cart or he asked me to get something off the bottom shelf. I’m sorry, but I think people who do that NEED to be brought down a notch or two. I figure God would not have given me such a sharp tongue if I wasn’t intended EVER to use it. Knowing when to use it and when to keep my mouth shut is the challenge. :-) Kay*
seacanepain
Midland City, AL

October 13, 2010
11:45 AM

Post #8154217

This thread is getting long, especially for anyone using dial-up. Let's continue at:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1135073/
I think I might have even spelled everything right this time! lol. Come and check. (Jim)

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