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Peonies: Paeonia japonica Oki-na-nami and Paeonia japonica Clairette

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snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 25, 2010
9:04 PM

Post #8062541

Does anyone have any knowledge or information about these?
ah3815
Kansas City, MO

August 26, 2010
6:10 PM

Post #8064167

Well first they are not a member of Paeonia japonica but are lactifloras. Little information on Ok-na-nami other than it apparently exists. Clairette according to Carsten's website is a single. One reference states it is straggly. Always try his website for information as it is one of the best in the world.

http://www.paeo.de/
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 26, 2010
7:15 PM

Post #8064383

Thanks so much. This is for the restoration of a 1938 Ellen Biddle Shipman garden and records are incomplete.and sketchy. Lots of searching to do.
ah3815
Kansas City, MO

August 26, 2010
8:08 PM

Post #8064503

What kind of peonies are you looking for tree or herbaceous? Is there a website for the garden? There are various groups doing similar things. If there are many peonies Boyd's 1928 book could be of use. One thing to check is for nurseries that used to be in the area of the garden.
snapple45
Holland, OH
(Zone 5b)

August 29, 2010
10:44 AM

Post #8068750

Local nurseries were searched first, but to no avail. There arent any that were in business back then. Many of her plants came from upstate NY nurseries anyway. Ms. Shipman's notes and records are incomplete and some are illegible about this particular garden done in Toledo, Ohio in 1938 towards the end of her career. Cornell University has all of her materials that were saved. She didn't save much. It seems that the notation "Jap" peony is not correct. I've found all the peonies called "Jap" as herbaceous. Oddly, every single one was a pink.

There isn't a web site for the garden.

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