I wintersowed Malva Zebrina this winter and like the plant and it has really bloomed a lot this summer. I remember reading that it reseeds easily and today I notice all these tiny seedling started. What do I do with all of those seedlings? Do I let them get a certain height before I try to transplant them? Do I cut the entire plant back to the ground before the first frost of the year?
Pippi, I cut back my zebrinas whenever they start to look ratty. They don't always return in the same spot. I tend to treat them more like reseeding annuals than true perennials. Since they are so prolific, I suppose I don't treat them with much respect, lol! Maybe someone else will pop in here with more info:)
As for transplanting my seedlings...They seem pretty hardy for me and I transplant them when they get big enough to handle easily. Of course I've lost a few to neglect, but there are always plenty to go around.
"I cut back my zebrinas whenever they start to look ratty. They don't always return in the same spot. I tend to treat them more like reseeding annuals than true perennials."
I do that same exact thing. And sometimes, if I just don't get around to cutting them back I just do it whenever I have time, whether that's mid-winter or begining of the next spring. I don't bother to transplant the seedlings because they're good where they are so I wouldn't know anything about that. I have more than enough each year and have had since the first time someone gave me seeds years ago.
Isn't it nice to have such a pretty thing be so easy to get along with? I have a few in the back that I know seeded from the compost pile. I certainly don't mind as they're easy to 'relocate' and tend to play well with others:)
Mine also tend to come up here and there--It's easy enough to recognize the seedlings, and they are easy to pull up if they are in a place where you don't want them. I've found you can also relocate them to a new area pretty easily. These have been a favorite of mine for quite some time.
Have any of you had to stake your Malva?
I was just out looking at mine a few moments ago and they are about as upright as can be. I've never staked mine - tggfisk had it right when she said it was nice to have something so pretty be so easy to get along with! I do nothing with mine besides cut them back each year. That, and sit back and wish all my other plants were so easy. LOL
Thanks, I only have one and she is 2 - 3' tall and spindly. I didn't want to lose her so I wouldn't wack her but maybe thats what she needs.
At this point in time, I'd just wait until we get a good frost and then do it..unless she's looking really bad for you.
Yes, she's propped up on the fence on her last leg. She produced a few pretty flower but otherwise wasn't very strong or healthy looking. At this point I would rather have strong roots and increase the chances of her coming back next year. LoL
I'd suggest letting some of the flowers set seed and drop if you can wait. That way you'll have it next year even if the main plant doesn't survive.
Actually, I went out to take Ms Malva out of her misery and I harvested a gazzion seeds. The seeds were among the easiest to seperate from the chaf.
One of the things I love about malva is that you just don't have to do much with them....they just reseed (without being intrusive/invasive), bloom despite any horrible weather, and are just beautiful, easy plants. How much better does it get?
My condolences on the loss of Ms. Malva, Diamond.....
My gardening friend came over for tea yesterday morning and to see my flowers as it's been since early spring since she was last here. She fell in love with Malva Zebrina and I gave her one plant to take home and some little seedlings. Now this is a woman who has a green thumb and many flowers in her yard. It was nice for me to give her something that she didn't already have and she already knows where she is going to plant it. She flipped over my columbine reblooming after I cut it back so I want to save her seeds from that one.
I haven't cut back my Columbine yet. I didn't know plants would bloom outside of their blooming period? Does Malva bloom all summer? I have been in love with Malva for a long time. I'm so excited to finally have it in my garden. LoL
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diamond, so sorry that we didn't answer your question. Malva will bloom all summer here provided it gets regularly deadheaded. I'm a little lazy for that myself and usually end up letting it go to seed and then cutting it back. It does flower a bunch so keeping it cleaned up takes more dedication than I have getting into August when I go back to work.
Thanks Tggsfisk! I planted Malva for the first time this year. It did bloom in its first year bit the blooming period wasn't very long.
There are so many plants that I fallen in love with. I research these plants and then try to grow them under lights inside my house, which is not always successful. LoL Last year I WSed for the first time. I had so much success with it that I have got to do it again this year. I even started some herbs well into the summer with the same process. The herbs germinated quickly and I enjoyed them most of the summer. I Sprinkled the seeds in flower pots and covered with a clear plastic bag. I poked holes in the top of the plastic bag for ventilation.
I'm thinking of using some of my flower pots for the same thing this winter. I'm hoping my plastic pots can with stand my winters.
I agree that wsing can be addictive. I have done well with herbs...so well that friends will ask for some that they know I've sown. I usually don't mind sharing when germination is great. I don't attempt much in the way of sowing in the summer though. It was waaaay too hot here this summer and not much rain to speak of. Matter of fact, it was 88 today. Where, oh where is fall, lol!
Malva Zebrina IS invasive. I made the mistake of starting them from seeds 7 years ago. I allowed 2 years of bloom before I noticed all the seedlings. I got rid of the main plants and had to spray those that went into my neighbor's yard. I had them planted along my fence. Even now years later, I see one pop of here and there. Their roots grow deep.
All Malva varieties are weedy.
Hmmmm..I must have done something wrong. I surface-sowed some Malva Zebrina seeds in a styrofoam cup after punching holes in the bottom and putting about 3" of MG seed starting mix (pre-moistened). I covered the top with plastic wrap and waited. It's been two weeks, and nothing has happened. The temps have been in the high 60's (city apartment,on the windowsill, trying to get a jump start on sowing before we start going back to the house where the garden is).
Should I assume these seeds are duds? Should I try again outside, WS in plastic jugs? I've been saving containers, and have a whole bunch of things I want to try that way starting early April. I've learned a lot from all the postings and want to see how I do.
Everyone says how easy and quick this malva is, but so far, not for me.
Thanks for any advice, Pam
I don't have anymore Zebrina seeds unless they come up on their own. I had a pack that I got in the wintersowing swap and since my friend dug up my babies, I gave the pack I got from the swap to her. She can look at something and make it grow! I think some will come back on their own. Something has popped up in the grass in another flowerbed outside of the scalloped bricks and it's either dwarf fairy candytuft or alyssum but it's in the grass so it could be anything. It's no where where Malva Zebrina was..don't know if I'll be able to find some commercial seed packs or not. I'll look because that might be something good to put over by Comtesse de Bouchard clematis area.
I think I'll take a stroll outside and see if there are anymore germination successes. I'm running out of room to put my milk jugs so am quitting while the quitting is good. Will direct sow anything else.
pfg -- i found this on gardenguides.com
Seeds of Malva Zebrina can be started indoors 6 to 8 weeks before the last predicted date of frost or started outdoors after the last frost. Barely cover the seeds, which will germinate in 15 to 21 days. Flowers will appear by early summer. Cut back Malva Zebrina after flowering stops to encourage a second bloom and to reduce reseeding
Read more: Information on Malva Zebrina Flowers | Garden Guides
Thanks...15-21 days...I guess I'm just being impatient. What I really want is spring, and to get back into the garden. Until then, I guess I have a bad case of cabin fever!
I'm curious to see if I'm going to have any Malva Zebrina come back at all. I let the plant in the ground over the winter and a few weeks ago when we had many days of high winds, I found the plant pulled out of the ground completely. I'm assumming it was the wind..but I also saw Bambi and baby munching around last week during the wee hours. We'll just have to wait and see if any seedlings pop up of the Zebrina. They are so easy to grow and so pretty.
I grew it once. i know tons of seeds hit the ground ... never came back for me.
I'm going to try winter sowing Malva sylvestris this year. I live in central Arkansas, zone 7b.
I mainly grow plants for the butterflies and hummingbirds and would like to try Malva in front of the Verbena bonariensis to try and help hide the bottom of the verbena (very weedy looking but one of the very best nectar plants). I'm also hoping the malva will help support the verbena flower stalks. For those of you who might be familiar with both of these plants, would you comment on whether these two plants might work well together?
I love Malva Zebrina. I don't think I've ever deadheaded mine; maybe that is why I have a lot of extra plants because I'm guessing the seeds dropped. How do you find the seeds on this plant? Their root is very long, and I just transplanted a good size plant to another location where I took out BES plants. Looks like it has transplant shock but I'll bounce back and if it doesn't, no big deal. I think I'll cut it back, as I didn't when I transplanted it. They wilt quickly, in a matter of minutes after pulling or digging them up from their "home"
The stalk on this plant is pretty thick.
TsgFisk..is there a better place to cut it back? Should I feed it some solution for transplant shock?
I don't think that there's any trick to cutting back. I cut off whatever doesn't look so fresh. I've never fed anything other than a long term granular at the start of the season, but I suppose it couldn't hurt.
I have transplanted malva but usually do it before it gets quite so big and long rooted. Sometimes I'll just remove a plant that is in the wrong place or is pretty much done for the year. As I stated previously, I don't count on the original plant coming back. Rather, I let it reseed and transplant the seedlings into the places I'd like them while they're still small.
I'm going to either print out your reply message or writing it down on a index card so I'll remember it next Spring when it starts growing to get the baby seedlings. The plant that I potted up about 3 weeks ago, I had to cut back the large leaves but it has bounced back and I can see new growth of leaves. I transplanted that one beside of the one I dug up yesterday. That one from 3 weeks ago looks okay but the newly dug up one looks wilted, I'm going to cut that back and see what happens, like down to basal growth and mulch and water today. I was too tired to mulch yesterday. I did water though but that soil is not that great but I did mix in some new soil and soil conditioner hoping that helps that area. It is kind of under the house eaves so doesn't always get the rain so I have to water with the hose or sprinkler can. Gardening is all about Trial and Error. This is the way one learns, right?
Yep! That and the advice of good friends and relatives. Best of luck with them. Such pretty things:)
LOL I have been outside for the past few days pulling seedlings out by the ton!! I have plenty if anyone would like one..or two :). I have wanted this plant for a few years and finally got one at an RU last fall. I planted it as soon as I got home. It grew and overwintered for me very well. I had no idea what to really expect from this plant but was very pleased!! It was a nice full, bushy plant and then....it flowered. It was just beautiful and full of blooms. I did not dead head any of them. Well now I have TONS of seedlings!!! I'm not complaining though :) I planted a 'Mystic Merlin' that I WSed last winter and it is now flowering. I love them both!! I will however dead head them some from now on. If any of you want a seedling send me a dmail and I'll be happy to send you one or two.
catzgalore, and you will have TONS of seedlings for the rest of your life even if later you decide to get rid of this invasive plant.
I started one in 2002 allowed it to flower for 2 years. I began to notice TONS of seedlings before I realized its bad habit. Out came ROUNDUP. Even this years, I had to pull several seedlings around my Hibiscus, which replaced it. Oh yes, the roots are deep even on seedlings. Make sure that you deadhead before it drops the seeds.
It is a pretty plant and I would love to have it but I don't have room for such selfish plant that takes over a garden.
Below is the one I grew.
:) I was thinking the same thing to myself as I was pulling them out. LOL I thought... "Why didn't I know this was going to be one of those plants that once you have it you will always have it?" I don't really mind the seedlings so much 'yet' as mine is in a location that will be fine for it to be as it is :)
See, the droughty situation that we've had did what all that hand pulling never did. I don't have these this year as in years past. I know y'all will think that I've lost it, but I'd love some seeds if anyone saved some.
Bev -- I just went thru my seed stash... no zebrina seeds at all.