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Heirloom Vegetables: A new way to trade heirloom seeds between the US and UK?

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Ivinghoe Beds
United Kingdom
(Zone 8a)

September 18, 2010
10:43 AM

Post #8106008

Would anyone care to trade heirloom vegetable seeds with me in the UK? Before 2004, when the US phytosanitation laws started to bite, I happily exchanged hundreds of heirloom seeds via US forums to share with members of my UK heirloom gardening club The Gardening Guild.

(I think I am personally responsible for the present glut of Mother's Six Week beans in the south of England!)

Nowadays I can legally receive seeds in the UK from the US or anywhere else (or mail them throughout the EC). But I cannot mail seeds to the US. (Smuggling them past Customs in hollowed out copies of Poe's The Purloined Letter was frowned upon, I found.)

Solution: I would happily provide a free copy of my book The Lazy Vegetable Grower to anyone who cares to mail me interesting heirloom varieties of, say, tomatoes or legumes. It sold 6600 copies in paperback at $20 so I suppose it's a mini 'best seller'. I could email it as a pdf or downloadable ebook.

The seeds would go to a good home: the many heirloom-growing enthusiasts at the Gardening Guild.

If that idea is of interest, please let me know - via D Mail, etc - what seeds you might have to trade. Thank you!

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Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

September 29, 2010
11:53 AM

Post #8127951

Are any of these of interest to you? They are all commerical OP strains called "heirloom" by the seed vendor("Botanical Interests"2010):

Tomato Bush "Green Zebra" BI # 0106
Tomato Bush "Silvery Fir Tree" BI # 3104
Tomato Pole "Aunt Ruby's German Green" BI # 3003
Tomato Pole "Black Krim" BI # 3118
Tomato Pole "Speckled Roman" BI # 3090
Tomato Pole "Brandywine Red & Yellow" BI # 3130
Pepper Sweet "California Wonder" BI # 3032
Pepper Sweet "Yolo Wonder" BI # 0057

I also have four kinds of Bok Choy (Pak Choi) from Kitazawa seeds 2009, I think all OP since they do call other strains "hybrid":

#059 Pak Choi Green standard chingensai 40 days Harvest when 10-14 tall
Dark green leaves and light green leaf stalks.
To avoid bolting, plant later in cool areas.
Known for heat-tolerance. The thick stalk of this variety is tender and extremely tasty.

#056 Chinese Pak Choi White Stem standard shakushina 50 days Harvest when 10-14 tall.
To avoid bolting, plant later in cool areas.
Smooth green leaves and thick white leaf stalks.

#298 Medium Pak Choi White Stem shakushina 45 days Best harvested about 6" tall.
It can also be harvested at a very young stage to large size.
Like most pak chois, this variety grows best in mild climate yet it can tolerate heat and cold.
Grows nicely provided night time temperatures are above 50

Thanks for preserving real heirloom varieties!



Everett, WA
(Zone 8a)

December 13, 2010
12:44 PM

Post #8258067

Do you need any of these varieties? I just received them in a trade, and the mid-season tomatoes are mostly available for trade or sharing.

I mostly want to hold onto the "cool climate", early and cherry varieties. If you or a fellow enthusiast want one of them, and there are enough in the pkt, I could split with you.

A few have "Hybrid" in the name, but a trader told me they had been propagated as OP. Apparently they were hybridized many years ago, and the strain stabilized since then.

Tommy Toe Cherry Tomato red Mid-Season 69-80 days OP
Aunt Ruby's Yellow Cherry Tomato Mid-Season Indeterminate Comm.
Pink Ping Pong Cherry Tomato light pink OP 75 days
Snow White Cherry Tomato heirloom OP creamy white / yellow Mid-S 69-80 days
Green Grape Cherry Tomato lime green 0.3 oz F,V OP Mid-S 69-80 days, bush to 4' tall, Indeterminate

"Lancaster (County) Pink" Tomato OP COOL CLIMATE (no DG info) (pkt: 75 day 1 pound, 8' tall, productive)
"Bloody Butcher" Tomato OP EARLY 55-68 (60) days COOL CLIMATE TOLERANT 4-6' tall med red globe potato leaf
"Morden" Yellow Tomato OP Flat/Oblate fruits DETerminate Mid-Late-S 69-80+ days yellow Canadian for colder climates
"Manitoba" Tomato OP EARLY 55-68 days F V 3-4' tall DETerminate med red globe Canadian for colder climates

"Golden Rave" Hybrid Tomato GOLD EARLY 55-68 days 6-8' tall Indeterminate med GOLD plum F T Park Seed 5421
"Early Cascade" EARLY 55-68 dy med red-orange heart saladette F,V Indeterminate maybe hybrid-but-comes--true-to-seed?
"Stupice" Tomato OP EARLY 55-68 (60-65) days 4-6' tall Indeterminate med red globe family heirloom potato leaf 2010
"Matina" Tomato OP EARLY 55-68 days Indeterminate med red globe Comm. Heirloom
"Maskabec" Tomato OP, EARLY 55-68 days DETerminate
"Early Wonder" Tomato OP EARLY 55-68 days semi-determinate med red globe 3-4' tall

"Bonny Best" Tomato (Early 55 days -or- midseason 69-80 days) heirloom OP Indeterminate
"Early Kus Ali" Tomato "Chinese tomato?" med Mid-S 69-80 days Indeterminate heirloom OP
"Early Girl" Hybrid Tomato McKenzie Seeds F, V (label says 52 days but PlantFiles says Mid-Season 69-80 days)
"Jubilee" Tomato ORANGE OP F V T 4-6' tall Indeterminate med-large globe (Early or Mid-S) maybe dry 2009

"Chico III" Tomato OP DETerminate Mid-S 69-80 days 'created heirloom'
"Rutgers" Tomato ("Jersey") OP 2-3' tall Indeterminate med red globe "family heirloom" Mid-S 69-80 days

"La Rosa" or "Bela Rosa" Tomato F V N T maybe hybrid-but-comes-pretty-true-to-seed?
"Window Box Roma" Tomato HYBRID or OP? DETerminate plum red
? Det. Early Red Saladette Tomato (Paste?) (cultivar?)

"Marmande" Tomato HYBRID early 70 days Indeterminate
"Calypso" Tomato HYBRID F, V Mid-S 69-80 days DETerminate
"Better Boy" Hybrid Tomato F, V, N, T Mid-S 69-80 days Indeterminate
"Jetsetter" Hybrid tomato N V F T 6-8' tall med red-orange globe comm. (Mid-S or 64 days) 2009
"Beefmaster" Hybrid #15 Tomato F V N 4-6' tall Indet. large red Beefsteak Mid-S flavor needs to be FULLY ripened on the vine

"Gary Ibsen's Gold" Tomato Mid-S 75 day Indeterminate yellow-orange-gold
"Jaune Flammee" Tomato OP early-mid 55-80 days Indeterminate ORANGE high carotene content
"Cherokee Purple" Tomato F OP Mid-S 69-80 days Indeterminate purple-brown-black


Habanero Hot Pepper VERY HOT green ch to red > 30K Scoville > 80 days
Thai Bird Pepper VERY HOT > 30K Scoville
Fish Pepper pre-1870s African-American heirloom green & white foliage. 5-30K Scoville

Hungarian Hot Wax Pepper yellow ch to red 5-30 K Scoville 69-80 days OP
Hot Cherry Bomb Pepper HYBRID green ch red (container) 5-30 K Scoville
Cayenne Large Red Hot Pepper (Burpee) green ch to red 1-30K Scoville 69-80 days

Anaheim Chili Pepper (? for pickling??) VERY MILD: 1 - 1K Scoville 69-80 days OP
Hybrid Giant "Marconi" Pepper green ch to red mild 1-1K Scoville
"Healthy" Pepper yellow ch to red 90 days
? Orange Bell Pepper 70 days
"Golden Treasure" Orange Bell Pepper
Sweet Pepper Gypsy Hybrid yellow ch to red EARLY 55-68 days


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