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Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

October 5, 2001
10:15 PM

Post #15195

Does anybody know where these things come from or what they become??? I have seen many lumps or what I thought were tumors on the backs or legs of the many squirrels we have.

I am now told that these "tumors" are merely "Cocoons" for a type of very large black worm. My neighbor saw one literally "pop open" on the back of the head of a young squirrel. She said it was gross and called animal control to come and get it. The squirrel was in obvious agony, the man cruelly threw it in a box where it screamed in pain, saying, "Yep, it's a Wolf".
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

October 6, 2001
12:26 AM

Post #140923

Azalea
They are the larvae of the bot fly. The flies are always around livestock. They lay their eggs on another fly (or mosquito) which deposits them (unknowingly) on the host. They feed on living flesh.Here is a link for rabbits which will give you some info.
http://home.talkcity.com/MemoryLn/cooleys-critters/Botfly.html
Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

October 6, 2001
12:55 AM

Post #140945

Oh Cala, thanks so much, now if I just knew how to get rid of the flies!! We live in a very wooded area, didn't see as many flies as yellow jackets this year. I guess you mean the big "horse flies" which buzz us regularly. There is a cow pasture and some horses about a mile from us. I told my neighbor I would have an answer before bedtime. It continues to amaze me how much knowledge is on this site. Thanks again.
Calalily
Deep South Coastal, TX
(Zone 10a)

October 6, 2001
1:00 AM

Post #140947

Here is another link
http://entomology.unl.edu/ent108/BOTW/BOTW3_rabbit_botfly.html
rgolde

May 29, 2003
10:10 PM

Post #540437

I have a Hen with a round doughnut shaped protrusion on her stomach with a brown center about the size of a thumbnail. The outside is about a finger thick in a circle about the size of small doughnut. Is this the same thing and what is the treatment?
violabird
Barnesville, GA
(Zone 8a)

May 30, 2003
1:02 AM

Post #540591

Yuck!
trillium_girl
Penfield, NY
(Zone 6a)

May 30, 2003
11:47 PM

Post #541434

I did hear a story once about a woman who went on one of those wilderness vacations in Costa Rico. She noticed a bump on her head that was sore and would not heal. Her doctor was clueless. It finally hatched out on it's own. I just figured it was one of those "urban legends." Yikes!
BittysGarden

(Zone 7a)

May 31, 2003
3:25 PM

Post #541900



This message was edited May 21, 2005 2:22 PM
Windy
Belleville , IL
(Zone 6b)

June 30, 2004
3:22 AM

Post #931457

http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/botfly.html
I know this is a really old post, but the neighbor recently found a botfly larvae in his dalmation! YIKES! He said he thought he was hallucinating seeing this creature in a wound on his dog. He had the vet remove it.
crimsontsavo
Crossville, TN
(Zone 7a)

June 30, 2004
3:25 AM

Post #931466

Isnt mother nature wondeful? *pukes*
My boss had a worm in her finger last year. She wears gloves now. ;-)
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 1, 2004
7:24 PM

Post #933699

We watched a National Geographic Channel special about a photographer who travelled through the rain forest and picked up all kinds of nasty parasites. Another of their gross-out shows had a guy who had a bot fly larva in his abdomen. He finally had it surgically removed and a photographer in the room at the time missed a shot of the surgeon getting it out and asked him to put it back in so he could get the shot.

*thump*

That's my immitation of me passing out and hitting the floor.
raven_locks
Tillamook, OR
(Zone 8b)

July 1, 2004
7:45 PM

Post #933720

Oh my!!! You are not alone on the floor gardenwife!!! I know better than to read these kinds of things, but I still do it anyway. UGH, now i have a case of obsessive/compulsive itching and feeling every little bump, AAAUUGGHHH!!! Ok, no more gross reading EVER!!!!
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2004
8:38 PM

Post #933798

GW-was that the one where the fish swan up that man's pee-pee in the river? That was a trip. It had to be surgically removed. They said normally they pray on bulls and other large animals.They showed the one with the guy who had something coming out of his stomach-but he let it get large to see how big it would get and finally the pain was too much to bear. Freaks me out. I am definitely going to keep the cutter close.
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 1, 2004
8:42 PM

Post #933809

I thought it just bit him -- it swam up it?? *urp* If I were a man, I'd be crossing my legs and sweating bullets just thinking about it, I bet.
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 1, 2004
8:44 PM

Post #933813

and it had spines so they couldn't *pull* it out! UGH!
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 1, 2004
9:06 PM

Post #933837

**** woOoOoOoOooOo ****

tHumP
Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

July 7, 2004
11:47 AM

Post #941063

Oh my - what did I start!!!! Glad I missed that show - well, I would have "flipped" before I saw all that.
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 7, 2004
12:52 PM

Post #941213

Oh ya, Saturday morning I woke up and began digging one area of borer infested irises. about 30 mosquito bites later (even with "Off" and "Cutter" on) I soaked in a hot tub for 2 hours praying it would drown any larvae that may have hitched a ride! One on my knuckle I now have coated in fingernail polish-just in case! LOL Now I'm completely paranoid!
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 7, 2004
5:58 PM

Post #941608

Do iris borers bore into people?
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

July 8, 2004
1:04 PM

Post #942637

No, I was just afraid that one of those mosquitos that bit me while I was digging the irises had transmitted a bot-fly egg (that is one means of infection). The home remedy is to "drown" the larvae with vaseline or nail polish. I'd never heard of one in Georgia, but after Azalea's post I thought I couldn't be too careful. Sorry I didn't mean to confuse the subject! LOL I was panicked when I discovered them -and on my "Dover Beach" Irises, but the point just should've been that it was a very important mission I was on outside when the skeeters were so bad.
gardenwife
Newark, OH
(Zone 5b)

July 8, 2004
3:17 PM

Post #942748

Well...The guy in that special tried nail polish, petroleum jelly, and even a raw steak...Bwaahahahahahahahaaaaa
crimsontsavo
Crossville, TN
(Zone 7a)

July 8, 2004
8:07 PM

Post #943074

HAHAHAHAHA I am so glad I'm not a man!!!!!!!!!
*gulps*
FlowrLady
-South Central-, IL
(Zone 6a)

December 3, 2006
8:26 PM

Post #2965375

You guys are So Funny! I'm just grossing out and laughing and laughing. How horrible LOL LOL LOL
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

December 3, 2006
8:38 PM

Post #2965409

OMG! Almost 5 years later! I had to re-read the whole thing...lol

This message was edited Dec 3, 2006 4:40 PM
Azalea
Jonesboro, GA
(Zone 7b)

December 4, 2006
12:30 AM

Post #2965945

Yeah- I had forgotten about this thing til someone posted the thing about that poor mouse about a month ago, so I found this old link. I guess it's a good thing to be educated about these things anyway.

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/668333/#new

This message was edited Dec 3, 2006 8:32 PM

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 5, 2006
4:30 PM

Post #2970935

Gardenwife, I'm cracking up over your thumps!

I'm grossed out too, but not enough to change the ''channel.''

When I mow, I have a fly that insists on trying to get in my nose or mouth. All I can think of is a horse swallowing a bot fly, so I flail around like a madman.

Jenks, I too wouldn't take chances, even tho I'm smiling at you.

Crimson, me too! (Not a man.)

Magpye
NW Qtr, AR
(Zone 6a)

December 5, 2006
6:04 PM

Post #2971165

We've loved all of the various pets & critters we've owned thru the years, but sticking our faces up to theirs or allowing vice-versa .. has always been a humongus NO-NO!!

This has extended from our horses, the goat, cows & calves, pet raccoon, chickens, ducks, geese, ferrets, dogs to cats - simply, far too easy to contract yuckies: not to mention where they may have had their mouths and tongues (or beaks), beforehand .. doing what comes naturally, for any animal.

Years ago .. coal oil/kerosene and salt was used to 'draw' the larva out. A tell-tale sign that it had hatched, was when the critter starting licking and/or scratching a particular area and attempting to chew at themselves. You knew the beast was moving about then. Cats and dogs, in particular .. will claw, scratch and bite themselves to try to get at it and remove it. Can make for some gosh-awful wounds, lesions, and sores .. and occasional scarring if/when healed.

Still unsure as to where the term 'wolf' came about - but that's what it had been called for eons!! The Bot fly has a different name (genus/species) for the different hosts of which the bug infects/injects. They're also called 'warble' flies. These naysties lay their eggs under the skin or in the digestive tract, and can cause some serious illness for any form of host it takes on!

A wealth of info, HERE > http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10370_12150_12220-26354--,00.html

And Lord forbid .. be careful of your critters sneezing on/or toward you; especially children! Ex: Sheep Bot Fly > http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/cropprot/botfly2.htm ..
Quoting:Ophthalmomyiasis refers to the invasion of the lids, conjunctiva, cornea, and rarely the orbit or globe of the mammalian eye by fly larvae (order Diptera). The sheep nasal botfly (Oestrus ovis) is the most common cause of ophthalmomyiasis. The human botfly (D hominis) is the most common cause of cutaneous myiasis in Central and South America, but few cases of external ophthalmomyiasis and no previous case to our knowledge of orbital invasion have been reported.

The female botfly glues her eggs onto the abdomen of a captured mosquito or other common fly. When the carrier insect lands on a human, the larva, or bot, hatches, burrows into the skin, and positions itself "head down" to feed, breathing through caudal respiratory spiracles. A furuncle with a central pore develops as the bot matures, molting twice until reaching 18 to 24 mm. The larva withdraws through a central punctum, falling to the ground and pupating before emerging as a mature botfly. Chloroform or lidocaine to anesthetize the bot may facilitate surgical removal as does occluding the breathing hole with ointment, beeswax, chewing gum, or pork fat.

* NOT for the weak stomached!! > http://www.bright.net/~bryanvet/Cuterebra.htm

Needless to say .. my appetite has been suppressed! .. (blech!)

- Magpye
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

December 7, 2006
12:32 PM

Post #2977315

Gah! Gag!

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

December 12, 2006
4:39 PM

Post #2993104

Oh ick!

I hate flies, gnats and mosquitos more than everything! Said because it's the worst we have.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2007
10:11 PM

Post #3062977

Well, I had to read this from the beginning too, and as it turned out, last night I read an advertisement for an herbal cleanse that gets parasites out - and you even see them in your excrement. People who had used it wrote descriptions...worms, inches long! hmmmm...'course I read the whole thing and studied the photos.

Several years ago one of my dogs had an oozing hole in her that she kept licking. Being one who is always ready to pop the biggest zit, I squeezed the sides of the hole, and out popped a maggot! I'd never seen such a thing, so I put it in a jar and took it to the vet. Some kind of fly. She got one more after that. Didn't seem to hurt her when I popped them out.

Guess with all the critters I get up close and personal to (dogs and a cat, mainly), I guess I'd better see about herbally cleansing out some of those parasites.

Amazing what ails the advertising article says they cause, and it makes sense. If they live in dogs and other critters, why not us?

:-)
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 7, 2007
10:13 PM

Post #3062984

Kinda makes me think of the scene in African Queen.
garden_mermaid
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)

January 11, 2007
3:48 AM

Post #3073352

4paws, it used to be customary for folks to "deworm" themselves at least twice a year, usually with herbal mixtures. A friends DH says he remembers his mom giving them a mixture of castor oil and turpentine to take care of that. It is interesting that many folks in the "industrialized" world think parasites are something that only applies to non-human animals or 3rd world countries. Over 90% of Americans have parasites. There are so many ways to pick them up. You don't need to curtail your enjoyment of life, just debug yourself at least twice a year.
We do the whole family at once, including the cats & dogs, with the herbal mixtures from this site:
http://humaworm.com/index.html

They way I see it, better out than in.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 11, 2007
10:00 AM

Post #3073545

Thanks for the link, garden_mermaid; I've been thinking about looking for some home remedies. :-)
FlowrLady
-South Central-, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 11, 2007
2:55 PM

Post #3074125

garden_mermaid, Thanks for the site. This is gross! But I'm interested.

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 11, 2007
4:13 PM

Post #3074304

4Paws, I too get that advertisement and wonder.

The good thing about maggots is that they only eat the dead flesh, cleaning up a wound. I would have said eewww if I had had the nerve to squeeze in the first place! :))

Could a person eat the diatomaceous stuff they feed to chickens? Asked half seriously. There is a food grade.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 11, 2007
4:54 PM

Post #3074460

I would think the DE (diatomacious earth) would be sharp in the system, but I don't know.

Gaby, my dog, didn't have a wound at all - that beastie was inside under her skin. No blood or anything came out with it, and it healed with no problems.

(long time no see, billy!)

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 11, 2007
5:09 PM

Post #3074487

Yes, I have been gone awhile, again. After I put x-mas away I tried to keep the house clean. Now I've been trying to research plants and get flower orders out. I sure missed it here tho!

I'm not so sure I would want to try the diatoms either.

I'm glad you got both of those out of Gaby before they caused any problems.
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2007
3:20 AM

Post #3078754

OM! This came up on one of my other forums in a discussion about parasites... the guinea worm!!! Talk about disturbing!!!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2007
5:40 PM

Post #3080035

yes...I think about this daily, now...lol
I'm sure I'm totally infested, given how close I am to my dogs!
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2007
9:07 PM

Post #3080593

NAH!
Nothing major like that that that...guinea worm!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2007
9:56 PM

Post #3080754

lol
What do they look like? What do they do?
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2007
10:04 PM

Post #3080774

They're are a flea people swallow that turns into a 3 foot long worm (female) and eat their way around your body eventually make a hole in your skin that they pop out to lay more eggs in water when the person steps in water! There is no cure- it has to be pulled out slowly over a few weeks' time! google it if you feel like puking! LOL
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2007
10:39 PM

Post #3080855

ooooooo...I have a good enough imagination, but where do they live? What climate?
I may have to look...lol
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2007
10:42 PM

Post #3080865

I looked. Those poor people!
:-(
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2007
10:45 PM

Post #3080880

The Carter Center here has some program, they're trying to eradicate it! Makes me want to donate my pennies!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 13, 2007
10:50 PM

Post #3080909

Makes me want to go help!
Mahnot
DFW area, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 13, 2007
11:07 PM

Post #3080962

Well, if I wasn't depressed before, I'm off to a goo start now !

Yuk, yuk, and more yuk.
Jenks
Social Circle, GA
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2007
11:15 PM

Post #3080987

Snort! A goo start? No pun intended eh? LOL

Mahnot
DFW area, TX
(Zone 7b)

January 13, 2007
11:18 PM

Post #3081003

Well, that's how I feel. Gooey.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2007
1:12 AM

Post #3081410

lol
Goo catch, Jenks!
I needed that laugh!
garden_mermaid
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)

January 14, 2007
2:24 AM

Post #3081693

I don't think the guinea worm has migrated out of Africa yet, although with modern air travel, anything is possible. The Carter Center program has helped bring it under control and close to eradication.

Life is messy. Parasites are a fact of life. If you do a parasite cleanse at least once, if not twice a year as part of your health maintenance regime, you'll keep any related problems to a minimum.
I'm not going to give up swimming in lakes and streams, walking barefoot in the grass or hugging my pets.
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2007
3:22 AM

Post #3081885

I'm with you, Garden_mermaid, but one of these days I'm going to give that humaworm stuff you linked to a try! (after I go to Las Vegas next month - I imagine I'll meet a few new parasites there...lol)
garden_mermaid
San Francisco Bay Ar, CA
(Zone 9b)

January 14, 2007
5:07 AM

Post #3082164

LOL! You'll need extra strength for those Las Vegas types!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2007
5:49 PM

Post #3083271

lol
yep.
I taught in Bullhead City for a year - it's 95 miles south of Vegas, and across the river from Laughlin. The school nurse, during our orientation, told us to never drink directly out of casino glasses, but to always get a straw or a bottle.

I've kept that in mind, especially since Labor Day that same year, I drank water out of a Harrah's buffet glass without a straw - thinking a restaurant might be cleaner. Well, a few days later I got sick and stayed sick until March! It took a lot of antibiotics to knock whatever I got down. ugh! But, I was a good example for teaching my first graders how to handle a snotty nose and cough...lol They learned that really, really well.

I only drink out of straws now in public places.
FlowrLady
-South Central-, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2007
7:43 PM

Post #3083616

I didn't know that about Las Vegas! Yuk!!
4paws
Citra, FL
(Zone 9a)

January 14, 2007
7:50 PM

Post #3083638

Probably in any busy drinking establishment, but since Las Vegas gets so many people from all over the world, it's totally a disease convention center. lol Who knows, maybe the the GWorm could end up in a swimming pool? Though, I think folks would notice an oozing open would before a carrier made it to the water. I wonder how much the chlorine does kill, and suddenly, even though I don't like swimming in it, I am thinking more appreciatively about it...

FlowrLady
-South Central-, IL
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2007
7:52 PM

Post #3083654

Whew! I never thought like that on a 'big scale'. YOu're right!

billyporter

billyporter
Nichols, IA
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2007
9:46 PM

Post #3090770

I'm catching up even tho I wish I hadn't. :)) I've heard of the Guinea Worm, so I didn't look. The Hook Worm is another nasty that enters thru the foot.

I don't like drinking water at anyone's house but my own. Not even my Parent's and they live at the opposite end of town, on the same highway that I live on.

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