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debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 9, 2010
2:38 PM

Post #8147051

Coming from here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1127710/

Havre de Grace, MD, a relaxing little get away. I'll be back with more in a bit.


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DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

October 9, 2010
3:18 PM

Post #8147143

Well, Ric, there's always next year! :)
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 9, 2010
4:42 PM

Post #8147288

We enjoy this little town and make it a stop over on the way to other places. Best crab cakes ever at the Tidewater Grill. Romantic outdoor seating, and we (DH) get to watch the trains go by.

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debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 9, 2010
4:51 PM

Post #8147306

And a walk on the boardwalk up to the Concord lighthouse.

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ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

October 9, 2010
5:41 PM

Post #8147371

Pretty area...I always liked crossing the Chesapeake Bay Bridge...not the tunnels, though!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

October 12, 2010
12:04 PM

Post #8152419

Been here, Deb??

http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/travel/national-parks/hot-springs-national-park/?source=link_tw20101011hotsprings
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

October 12, 2010
12:20 PM

Post #8152437

not yet, but that looks pretty cool, or rather, hot!
you?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

October 12, 2010
12:36 PM

Post #8152461

No, but it does look nice.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

October 12, 2010
1:24 PM

Post #8152527

Wonder if it's hot enough in Jan. Would love to plop in...

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

October 25, 2010
5:33 AM

Post #8174555

My local paper had an article and a link to an interactive website for planning trips to Australia. Thought you might like to take a look - http://www.nothinglikeaustralia.com

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 2, 2011
5:17 PM

Post #8288999

We're probably going to Quebec this summer. Will do Amtrak to Montreal, spend a few days there, and rent a car and drive to Quebec City. We will be going with my CT friends.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 2, 2011
5:42 PM

Post #8289084

Sounds like a great trip!! How is your wife feeling today? Have you dodged it?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 2, 2011
5:43 PM

Post #8289087

She is starting to feel better, thanks. So far I have avoided it, knock wood.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 2, 2011
5:47 PM

Post #8289092

Knock knock!! :) Good to hear she is feeling better!

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 2, 2011
6:52 PM

Post #8289209

Two hours WEST of Montreal is Ottawa - Canada's National Capital! If you can manage time come this way too. http://www.ottawatourism.ca/en/visitors/attractions

Ann
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

January 2, 2011
7:02 PM

Post #8289230

I spent a week on Block Island (off the coast of RI) several years ago. It was one of the most wonderful, peaceful and relaxing vacations I've taken. We took only our bicycles (i.e., no car) and rented a house right on the ocean. I've wanted to go back ever since, but we never seem to get around to it. Maybe it's just one of those special memories that would be ruined by a second trip...

But if you like the ocean and natural beauty, with much fewer tourists than the Cape, MV or Nantucket, it's worth a visit.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 2, 2011
7:50 PM

Post #8289299

Thanks, Ann! I'll look into that.

Block Island and Nantucket are on my list, Christina.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 3, 2011
3:24 AM

Post #8289496

We did the Ottawa trip a few years ago, DH twisted his ankle so we didn't skate on the canal. It was nice, but cold!

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 3, 2011
7:33 AM

Post #8289867

It won't be cold in the summer! :-) Canal is only skateable for January and February and maybe into March if we're lucky. May has the tulip Festival. Canada Day - July 1 is a major downtown party -free museums and many downtown streets closed until after the fireworks. Entertainment all day on Parliament Hill. And during the summer there are LOTS of various music festivals

Debi - so sorry your DH twisted his ankle and couldn't skate.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 3, 2011
8:05 AM

Post #8289922

Sounds like a nice trip, Victor. Haven't been to Canada in ages, although I love Louise Penny's series of mysteries set in Quebec...Block Is. is a fav place of mine...have been numerous times, & have always enjoyed it, so you won't spoil it by a second trip, SOJ.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2011
12:33 PM

Post #8290349

We'll probably be going the end of August.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2011
1:08 PM

Post #8290407

Trying to figure where to go for Easter break

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2011
1:39 PM

Post #8290460

We're going to an all-inclusive family resort about 90 minutes north of here.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2011
1:43 PM

Post #8290463

Cool idea

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 3, 2011
1:43 PM

Post #8290467

It's a dude ranch but lots of other stuff to do. Three meals and tips are included.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 3, 2011
3:46 PM

Post #8290694

Kids will love the horses!

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 5, 2011
5:23 PM

Post #8294408

Sounds like fun, Victor!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 13, 2011
1:23 PM

Post #8308936

Amtrak is offering $89 round-trip fares from NYC to Montreal for Thu-Mon travel through Apr 28. Nice deal!

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 13, 2011
1:26 PM

Post #8308942

Does it work the other way round?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 13, 2011
1:28 PM

Post #8308948

Here's the FB announcement:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/amtrak/amtrak-offers-special-weekend-fare-on-popular-adirondack-service/485786311126

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 13, 2011
5:18 PM

Post #8309306

Great price...I love to ride the train in scenic places...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2011
3:11 PM

Post #8339153

Very cheap flights to Egypt!!

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2011
6:22 PM

Post #8339534

You going?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2011
6:23 PM

Post #8339540

Maybe for Mummy's Day.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2011
6:28 PM

Post #8339545

har har

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 31, 2011
3:57 PM

Post #8341285

You are sooo bad, Victor! Right now I'd like a cheap flight to someplace very warm!
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 1, 2011
8:13 AM

Post #8342573

That sounds like a great plan, RD

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
1:56 PM

Post #8343476

It got up to 85 today here. Our a/c is on again. :( (Yeah, Louise, why don't you complain about the weather for this sympathetic crowd!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Sorry...I lost my head!) :)

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
1:58 PM

Post #8343480

YES!!! Hee hee. Wish I were there!

We are HOPING to go to Italy in '12! Would be my first trip to Europe. Excited about it.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
2:20 PM

Post #8343526

Very awesome!!! Hubby has no interest in going to Europe, I'll have to find someone to go with...can I stow away with you?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
2:24 PM

Post #8343532

Can you fit in a cat carrying case?? :-)

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
2:39 PM

Post #8343553

Loved traveling in Europe...Italy was nice! How exciting for you, Victor! Will you visit family there?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 1, 2011
2:41 PM

Post #8343559

No family left - at least none I know of. But I definitely will visit my grandfather's hometown, Positano. It's gorgeous.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 1, 2011
2:43 PM

Post #8343563

Yes, that's what I hear. I didn't make it to Positano. I look forward to your photos!

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 2, 2011
1:57 AM

Post #8344372

victor- my brother went to Montreal this past summer and even as a non gardener he liked the Botanical garden with its 'crevice garden.' They liked Montreal and Quebec both. I went to Old Quebec with my DD French class a few years ago and loved it. We had a hotel in the old part and walked everywhere, except the tour bus took us to Montmorency Falls, the basilica of St Anne de Beaupre, and stopped at a little tiny cheese curd place and a copper art place, and a maple sugaring camp.

And I've been to Rome and Florence, just once, just pretty quick, but LOVED IT.

We're trying to decide on someplace sunny. But the oldest kid won't be available to go, the next already has a beach week with girlfriends- it gets harder to plan a trip for all five of us. Any Cancun feedback would be appreciated.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 2, 2011
3:46 AM

Post #8344430

Sally, try looking into Riviera Maya, about an hour south of Cancun. I went a few years ago and loved it. There's a great park in the area also, Xcaret (sp?) It's kind of a hybrid adventure/natural/zoo park.
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 2, 2011
3:53 AM

Post #8344436

This is where I stayed, no need to rent a car.

http://www.occidentalhotels.com/grand/Xcaret.asp
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 2, 2011
5:47 AM

Post #8344563

not a big fan of Europe - been there a lot for business and trade shows with some off time. never been to Italy though and here it is nice. monaco was ok if you have $$ to spend.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 2, 2011
6:25 AM

Post #8344636

I loved Monaco...only there a few days, traveling between Italy & France...I was on a bus...no guard rails, roads are very scary, but the scenery was gorgeous!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 2, 2011
7:39 AM

Post #8344802

Thanks, Sally. I will look into that. Have not booked lodging yet. Appreciate any suggestions by you guys.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 2, 2011
11:36 AM

Post #8345256

Would love to go to Germany, Greece, Switzerland, Italy, Russia, Holland, England, Ireland

Ok you know what??? I just want to go to Europe.

Keep saying we're going to see all the states first...still waiting for that to happen.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 2, 2011
11:37 AM

Post #8345259

Most of Europe is on my list, as well as all the states.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 2, 2011
11:41 AM

Post #8345266

Never went to Ireland, but the pubs impressed DH!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 2, 2011
11:45 AM

Post #8345277

been to 5 of those jen - greek islands were the best by far

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 2, 2011
11:47 AM

Post #8345281

See, I would love to be a country where some of their architecture is older than our country
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 2, 2011
11:48 AM

Post #8345287

it is also falling down - Hated Paris it would not be bad if the parisians where not there - very rude bunch

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

February 3, 2011
5:25 AM

Post #8346309

victor- we stayed in a Hilton for Rome cuz my sister used travel points from work. It's outside of town on a hill. Not very convenient but we used their shuttle to get to the city most mornings. Then the metro is very convenient, and cabs were fine. I think Rome is awe some, Just the ancient ness of old Rome. I loved Palatine Hill for the parklike setting and view. Got tickets there which covered that plus Coliseum and one museum so we got in Coliseum quickly- I think there's a big ticket line there or something. Wished I did Villa Borghese. Loved Villa D'Este. Did not love Vatican- I would skip it unless you really want to see Sistine Chapel. Sorry we missed the market day.

Would RIviera Maya be ungodly hot or rainy in early July?

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 3, 2011
4:59 PM

Post #8352060

Bill - I loved the Greek Isles as well, but the sand on the beaches was so hot you couldn't walk on it without shoes/sandals on. I lay down on a beach towel and had it get up within 5 minutes. I loved wandering around on the Acropolis, and I also loved seeing the very first toilet ever in King Minos' palace, as well as the labyrinth of the legendary minotaur. It is such an old place...fascinating!
venu209
Jersey Shore, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 3, 2011
7:14 PM

Post #8352332

Sally, it would be the same as Cancun or the rest of Mexico. July?...hot! I was there in April...90º, but plenty of really big pools to cool off in. I have very nice memories of that trip.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
4:58 PM

Post #8356143

Anyone with experience with the train between Montreal and Quebec City?? Would prefer not to drive if I don't have to.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 5, 2011
5:05 PM

Post #8356150

We have taken the train to Montreal, DH prefers not to drive, a little bit of a wait at the border for customs to board the train. He likes it, I'm pretty sure we took the train to Ottawa. What do you want to know, I can ask DH.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 5, 2011
5:58 PM

Post #8356207

We are taking the train from here to Montreal. I want to know about the train between Montreal and QC.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
3:41 PM

Post #8979595

Whoa - took some doing finding this thread! Good thing the search function is so much better these days.

Plans for this year?? We will visit relatives in FL during spring break. Our summer vacation will be Yellowstone in the second half of August. Really looking forward to that.

How about you guys??

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2012
3:53 PM

Post #8979615

Going back to DC/VA in March, this time with Brian. :) Hope to see Mt. Vernon this time and we plan to travel along Skyline Drive ~ Shenandoah National Park
http://dc.about.com/od/getawaydestinations/ig/Shenandoah-Pictures/
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
4:12 PM

Post #8979646

We are thinking of driving to Savannah and somewhere else along the way in March.

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

January 23, 2012
4:17 PM

Post #8979655

We did nothing special last summer, but two nights at Ocean City MD beach were nice but not special.
Curacao in first week August? Having kids really scews up vacation planning ability.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #8979667

Cool, Celeste! In time for cherry blossoms, hopefully?! Contact your congressman and senator now for free passes. WH, Capitol, Kennedy Center, etc. Check online for a tour of the Naval Observatory. That was cool. Only given twice a month. The night bus (private, have to pay) monument tour is very nice. Reserve Booth theater and where Lincoln died in advance. Skyline is beautiful.

Nice, Deb. That is on my list. Love to see all those mansions.

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2012
4:23 PM

Post #8979680

Yes Victor, peak cherry blossom time. :-) :-) :-)
Thanks for the tips. :)

Sounds nice Debi, im w/Victor...would love to see those old Southern Plantations and Mansions.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
4:28 PM

Post #8979693

We did the night monument tour but the WW lights weren't working, it was supposed to be a nice one.

I don't like flying so wanted to do something we could drive to, and I know flying is safer than driving, but I still don't like it!


wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 23, 2012
4:35 PM

Post #8979713

nice trips - would love to see Yellowstone

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
5:18 PM

Post #8979780

Yes, the WW2 memorial is gorgeous at night.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
8:02 PM

Post #8979971

Gonna stop by and see me this time Celeste????


No plans yet, kids get out SOOOOO early from school so hopefully will go somewhere the 2nd week in June

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 23, 2012
8:27 PM

Post #8979995

For those of you in NYS, Rochester is heavy on my list of destinations this year. International Viola Congress May 30 - June 3 is at Eastman School of Music. A wedding in the Pittsford area on June 9 and some time in the fall my 50 year high school reunion in Fairport. Then we expect to get to Vancouver where our daughter and family live, a few times - gotta see those grand kids. And a car event in MA NE of Boston in mid August.

Ann

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
8:34 PM

Post #8979998

Nice, Ann! I assumed the viola was for violets, not the instrument! Duh. You play? My son is getting pretty good on the clarinet. He is first clarinet at school. He takes private lessons too. His teacher's wife teaches the viola.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 23, 2012
8:34 PM

Post #8979999

Well, we just got back from visiting Germany over the holidays. Marianne hails from Deutschland, and her only brother and family live there near Dusseldorf. We get back there every couple to three years (since 1987), and have traveled around most of western Europe both pre- and post-Euro. Love not having customs to cross anymore.

Oldest niece got married just before Christmas - darn the luck, had to attend. I would counsel anyone who has had unsatisfactory tours of Europe (attention, Bill) that: you just aren't doing it right. Take me/Marianne along as a guide, and you'll lose all the accumulated bile and be unable to wait till the next opportunity! 'Nuff said, though I'll discuss this till the cows come home with all comers.

If anyone ever wondered if loyalty to an employer was ever worth anything...Marianne celebrated 25 years running her laboratory by being awarded a trip anywhere in the world. We're planning to visit Australia in August/September this year, so thanks to ViolaAnn for the old link at the top of this thread. The niece that got married in December? Married an Aussie bloke, she did. They live in Brisbane, so we've got a little head start on guides. We are looking for others' experiences Down Under, especially garden/nature/countryside/wine-wise (like you were REALLY wondering).

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victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 23, 2012
8:39 PM

Post #8980005

Wow - lucky you, VV! Would love to get there one day. Lots of good wines from down under. And wonderful plants. And dingos. :-) what a great gift for Marianne! Congrats to her. My award for 17 years at Columbia U's nuclear lab was unemployment.

I will pick your brains regarding Europe. Our biggest problem now, in planning what will be our first trip there, is WHEN to go. We are constrained by school schedules. Summer seems like the worst time to go with the crowds of tourists and the vacationing locals. Our plan is to see Italy on this first trip.

ROSES_R_RED

ROSES_R_RED
Mount Bethel, PA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
4:57 AM

Post #8980168

We traveled Italy a few years ago at the end of May, which seemed be a good time for weather without the crowds.. It was a great trip arranged by our nieces and nephews instead of doing a tour. They really knew what they were doing so it all went well. Of course the highlight of the trip for me was in the Provence of Compagna where my family lives in Naples. Positano is just around the corner up the Amalfi Coast and is one of the most beautiful places that we stayed at. When you get to your hotel,if it's on the cliffs, the elevator takes you DOWN to the front desk and the rooms.

This year we will spend one vacation in August with our kids and their kids in a house in Rehobeth, DE, and then another one in October at Myrtle Beach (Surfside Beach).

Our winter vacations are usually to Florida or south, but this year I'm spending lots of time at my daughter's house to help with the new baby and her family.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
5:26 AM

Post #8980200

VV if and when i head back to Europe i will consult with you - the greek islands where fantastic - quick question on your recent trip, did you have any alt while near dussledorf? it is one of my favorite flavors.

I have been trying to convince the wife to burn the rest of my frequent flyer miles and go to australia in May. the plan was to land in sydney and stay near the opera house on the arrive and return leg - head to brisbane and their wine country - up to Darwin and visit kakadu nat'l park, slide to the east and visit the great barrier reef before heading back to sydney and heading home - a three week vaca - she has two problems with my plan, first problem is it is an expensive vacation (the flights just around Assy are 4K) and second is we have to pay for it - still working on her although i am not making any headway.
Kenarden
Bar Harbor, ME

January 24, 2012
5:44 AM

Post #8980229

Stay away from Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park in Maine. The locals are MEAN!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
5:55 AM

Post #8980241

Really?

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2012
5:56 AM

Post #8980246

HEY! They are not!!! Unless your referring to yourself. :-)

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 24, 2012
5:58 AM

Post #8980249

I will be heading to Pittsford, NY sometime in June as well, Viola...my niece lives there...if my brother's health is OK at the time...we usually go in August when the peaches are ripe, but my niece wants to see Borglund's Iris Farm in bloom...also will be heading up to Mascoma Lake in NH for Memorial Day, and over to Watch Hill, RI to my nephew's summer home...also need to get to southern Maine to visit my stepson & his wife, who hopefully will be home from stroke rehab...

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2012
6:44 AM

Post #8980322

Would love to go to Europe or Australia *sigh*

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2012
6:50 AM

Post #8980328

VV - I agree. Lucky you. And to have a built in guide, that's great. I hope you enjoy the trip.

This thread had been dormant for so long, I don't think I even mentioned our October trip to Germany - for an International Viola congress, too. Yes, I play and I'm active in the Canadian Viola Society and have been on the executive of the International Viola society and the Congresses have taken us all over the world - New Zealand, Australia, Iceland, Austria, Germany several times and Glasgow.

Anyway, the last trip we flew to Berlin. Had originally hope to visit friends in Hamburg AND get to Dresden in side trips from Berlin, but in the end we skipped Hamburg since those friends had been in Ottawa in July before we all went to a conference in Montreal. So, spent several days in Berlin, a few in Dresden and then went to the Congress in Würzburg. If you want to look at pictures, you'll find them at: http://violaann.smugmug.com/Travel/Germany-2011/19643233_pL2nst

BTW, we've been to Germany many times and spent a year in the Hamburg area in 1976-77. So, while I'm not an expert by any means, I do have familiarity with the country.

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2012
6:51 AM

Post #8980330

flowAjen - keep on dreaming and meanwhile, start trying to plan and you'll get there. It's not impossible.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2012
6:54 AM

Post #8980334

Bill:

Gotta figure out a way to translate your love of (stone) walling into plane tickets - any airline execs live in your part of the world? I see some symmetry evolving...

The places you mention (and the ways of getting around) align with what we've considered, and have had recommended by others. Darwin might be one we'd skip, sticking with the areas from Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, and up as far as Cairns/Kuranda and the Great Barrier Reef.

If you go in May, we'll expect a full report.

As far as Germany and beer...well, you can't hardly travel in the Dusseldorf/Cologne (Koln) corridor without being bodily held down and forced to imbibe the local elixir: alt. You wouldn't have any reason to consume mettwurst, bratwurst, grunekohl, and bratkartoffeln otherwise.

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wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
8:00 AM

Post #8980423

nice hat!:) In my opinion the Colonge Kolsch does not stand up to the Alt - planned to brew a Marzen later this week may reconsider and do an Alt.

Australia has a lot that is well worth seeing - it is a Continent after all - and it is hard to decide. i did have to explain that a couple times when discussing the in "country" air fares - looked into rail and it looks like it is all regional so you would still need to fly and the pricing was not that less expensive. I've been a few times on business (Melbourne/Sydney) years ago (In Australia I like the Victoria's Bitter the best)so it would not be a tragedy if we do not go. I keep trying the "you only live once line" to no success. I think I will be waiting on your trip report and planting japanese maples in May.



HollyAnnS
Dover, PA
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2012
8:23 AM

Post #8980446

Ric and I still haven't gotten North. We were hoping to get up there last year and it just seems to keep getting pushed back.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2012
4:42 PM

Post #8981057

Victor - where will you be in Fla? Any chance it's close to us?

debi - on your way to Savannah, think about a stop in Beaufort, SC. Their historical downtown area is very nice with a gorgeous waterfront park. We spent a couple days there on our way down this Fall,and we really liked it. We almost changed our mind on the strip coming into town, but we were glad we went into the old part of town.

Our big trip next Fall will be to close up the farm a month early and drive out in September to Glacier National Park to meet up with our Colorado kids/Grands. My stepdaughter was the architect for the renovation of one of the Lodges there, and we want to see her work, as well as vacationing with her and her family. We'll stop along the way to see some old friends and some historical places like Crazy Horse and Little Big Horn, and after Glacier we'll visit my college roommate at their summer cabin on Priest Lake, Idaho before heading down through Yellowstone and the Tetons and Jackson Hole on our way to visit again with our Colorado bunch at their home in the Rockies. We have to go early enough not to have the Parks close for snow, so we'll leave right after Labor Day. Don't anyone DARE to think of doing a Fall RU without us!! (just kidding...maybe). LOL
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2012
6:05 PM

Post #8981189

that sounds like a great trip louise!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2012
6:05 PM

Post #8981191

Ft. Lauderdale for sure. Mot sure where else yet. Would love to visit. Have to see how the planning plays out. I will def let you know! Glacier is high on my list.

Teri, my grandfather is from Positano! So look forward to seeing it.

Based on my limited experience with German beer, I am guessing Alt might cause one to lose Control and Delete any recollection.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2012
6:30 PM

Post #8981227

Any photos of the redesigned lodges, Louise?

ViolaAnn

ViolaAnn
Ottawa, ON
(Zone 5a)

January 24, 2012
7:03 PM

Post #8981268

Quoting:Based on my limited experience with German beer, I am guessing Alt might cause one to lose Control and Delete any recollection.
LOL
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
5:50 AM

Post #8981547

it does taste good and go down easy :)

ROSES_R_RED

ROSES_R_RED
Mount Bethel, PA
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
6:30 AM

Post #8981588

Victor, if the restaurant "La Tagliata" is still there above Positano in the Amalfi cliffs, you MUST go there. You will be reminded of all the food from you grandparent's table for their holiday and everyday dinners. This is truly a breath taking area.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 25, 2012
6:41 AM

Post #8981604

Louise, that trip sounds wonderful! Have only been to western US once, but it was pretty thrilling!

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 25, 2012
5:42 PM

Post #8982335

I don't think the lodge is finished yet, Victor. I think it is still in the construction phase. There will be a Grand Opening in the Fall, and that's why we decided to go and to meet them there. I'll know more during the summer, but I think we'll go even if it isn't finished by then. We are both looking forward to the trip. We have been out to most of the National Parks out west a few times since DSD went to college in Colorado (and we lost her for good). We have not been to Glacier though. Yellowstone is a big favorite, so we can't get that close without going back through it again. We have never taken a driving trip with the dogs for this long, but they are such good little travelers that we're hoping we aren't nuts! :)

Victor, we are almost straight across the state from Lauderdale. Please do let us know your timing and your itinerary. Love to see you and the family!

Thrilling is a good way to describe the beauty out west, Marilyn. The National Parks are wonderful...class act, plus we now have lifetime passes and parking passes, so you can't beat that, although, they are priced very reasonably anyway.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
5:44 PM

Post #8982342

We haven't hit Glacier yet either, maybe soon.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 25, 2012
5:55 PM

Post #8982362

Debi, we've always wanted to take the train through the Canadian Rockies to go out to Glacier, but they don't allow dogs, so we'll drive instead. We are like you in loving the train trips. Have you done any of those trips across the Rockies?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 25, 2012
6:02 PM

Post #8982369

Would love to train through the mts!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 25, 2012
6:08 PM

Post #8982376

We did do the train thru the Canadian Rockies, and Durango Silverton in CO, and many others. Those 2 were awesome.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 25, 2012
6:11 PM

Post #8982381

Would love that trip...traveling by train is such a great experience...west of the Miss. that is!

This message was edited Jan 26, 2012 9:37 AM

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2012
4:47 AM

Post #8982611

We've done the Durango - Silverton trip as well...loved it! DSD is also the lead architect on the project to renovate the historic school in Silverton. She's there as we speak. :)

pixie62560

pixie62560
South China, ME
(Zone 5a)

January 26, 2012
4:57 AM

Post #8982618

I'd like to go anywhere but Maine for the next 48 hours :)

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 26, 2012
6:37 AM

Post #8982720

Just had to edit my post...the trains are better out west! Senior moment!

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2012
11:09 AM

Post #8983007

My one sis must be the only person in the world that didn't like a long train trip...hated the rocking motion she said

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 26, 2012
1:50 PM

Post #8983191

Yes, it does rock & I'm usually very motion sick, but the train didn't bother me...

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 26, 2012
5:15 PM

Post #8983467

I enjoy being able to look out of the large windows and see the scenery on a train. The rocking never bothered me, but I can see how it might bother someone.

Marilyn, I agree!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2012
5:20 PM

Post #8983479

I find the rocking very relaxing.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2012
5:22 PM

Post #8983485

We've done 2 sleepers, and the rocking and noise can disrupt sleep.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 26, 2012
5:24 PM

Post #8983487

Cannot be worse than my wife's snoring!

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 26, 2012
5:59 PM

Post #8983528

Had a hard time getting used to the train's whistle through all the crossings!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 26, 2012
6:12 PM

Post #8983558

victor you may have crossed her line there :)

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2012
8:16 AM

Post #8984027

Hoping Jan's enjoying her trip

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2012
8:37 AM

Post #8984077

Cool site!

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 27, 2012
3:17 PM

Post #8984574

Nice photos!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 31, 2012
5:24 PM

Post #8989943

So we are going to Savannah, but flying. Any suggestions on where to stay?

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 31, 2012
6:21 PM

Post #8990026

I haven't stayed in Savannah, so I'm afraid I have no suggestions...I'm sure you'll enjoy your trip though.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 1, 2012
6:21 AM

Post #8990493

Stayed in Hilton Head when I visited Savannah...
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 1, 2012
7:29 AM

Post #8990566

Oh, these all sound loverly!!! Loved the parks out west.

Thanks, Jen, for thinking of me. :). Had a great time!!!

Will be heading to Texas in April for Cora's first birthday. Hopefully to Oregon this summer again to see grandies. Or maybe they can come here.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 4, 2012
8:20 PM

Post #8995041

Visited Savannah but didn't stay there, so I'm no help. We were there when they were filming Forrest Gump
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
1:19 PM

Post #9020906

Looking into taking the train from Chicago to Glacier NP then on to Seattle. Spend 4 nights in the park. 1 night in a sleeper car before and after the park.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 26, 2012
1:34 PM

Post #9020930

Sounds wonderful!!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2012
3:30 PM

Post #9021015

Yes - sounds great, Deb! I am looking at airfares for Yellowstone now. The one problem with YS is that it's a pain to get to. Closest non-stop airports are not close! Can xfer to West Yellowstone but pay lots more. Looks like we will fly to Salt Lake City and drive 5 hrs. I can split the driving with my BIL.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
3:34 PM

Post #9021025

We flew to Denver when we did Yellowstone, but we did 5 parks that trip.
I prefer non sop flights but don't often get them.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2012
3:36 PM

Post #9021028

Price to Salt Lake is about $370. To switch and fly to West YS is $620!!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
3:37 PM

Post #9021032

Wow
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
3:38 PM

Post #9021033

nice country to see while you drive victor

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2012
3:38 PM

Post #9021035

True, Bill. Love big sky country.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
3:42 PM

Post #9021040

We're thinking the view from the train should be pretty good too.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 26, 2012
3:43 PM

Post #9021045

i agree it might even be better

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2012
3:44 PM

Post #9021047

Absolutely!
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 26, 2012
6:11 PM

Post #9021195

YIKES on the transfer to WYellowstone! Love it out west.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

February 26, 2012
7:26 PM

Post #9021287

We flew into Bozeman, MT. See if that's a choice, rather than West Yellowstone.

From there, you enter Yellowstone from the northern gateway that Teddy Roosevelt dedicated.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 26, 2012
7:36 PM

Post #9021305

Did check that, vv. No better. No direct flights and expensive.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 27, 2012
5:29 AM

Post #9021578

Debi, I did the train from Chicago to Seattle...saw loads of stuff, including a golden eagle nest with the babies in it!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 27, 2012
6:48 AM

Post #9021676

Oh very cool! We did the Canadian Rockies train, so this should be similar. Love the mountains and glacier waters.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 27, 2012
9:46 AM

Post #9021927

Yes, the scenery is lovely...

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 28, 2012
6:47 PM

Post #9023957

Sounds wonderful, Debi - when will you go? We might bump into you if you go in the fall. We'll drive from Glacier down to Yellowstone before heading to our kids' home in Colorado.

Victor- that would be an awesome trip for your boys! I agree with everyone ...the drive is almost as good as Yellowstone. Such diversity of beauty!

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 28, 2012
8:23 PM

Post #9024068

Watching The Bachelor(I know I know, pathetic) and the last few episodes are in Switzerland...GORGEOUS!!!!!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
2:21 AM

Post #9024195

Louise we'll go late summer, but I'll think of you while we're there.
We thought about a train/ski trip in the Swiss alps, but probably won't do it.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
5:37 AM

Post #9024298

jen - i have been tortured into watching that train wreck of a show. switzerland is awesome

This message was edited Feb 29, 2012 8:37 AM

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 29, 2012
6:03 AM

Post #9024335

This season's show is the WORST...I keep yelling at the tv, get a hair cut!!!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
6:15 AM

Post #9024353

yup - and my wife kept saying last week that she would have been mortified if her hair was as messy as lindsey's - i guess only a women would feel like that :)

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

February 29, 2012
6:18 AM

Post #9024359

Well lindsey's dye job and makeup are just horrible anyway so messy hair just adds to the mess that is her...nice girl though, don't get me wrong...LOL
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
6:29 AM

Post #9024372

she is nice and i kinda like her messy look :)

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 29, 2012
6:32 AM

Post #9024373

How can you watch that, Bill?!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
11:01 AM

Post #9024606

it is what i have to do if i want to see my wife - besides it is such a car wreck, one of the better comedy's on TV right now.

girls spend maybe 2 or 3 hours alone with this guy, believe they have found the love of their lives, they do not get a rose, and then cry hysterically - it is so ludacris you can't make it up - just too funny :)
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

February 29, 2012
11:02 AM

Post #9024608

the part you may like is they always find a way to be in a bikini - without fail

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 29, 2012
11:03 AM

Post #9024612

Hmm - might have to check it out.
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

March 1, 2012
3:35 AM

Post #9025446

Victor, how bout flying into Jackson Hole? I personally enjoyed the Tetons much more than yellowstone - you could do both parks...? I don't remember how long the drive was but I don't think it was bad.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 1, 2012
5:27 AM

Post #9025527

I did check that too, Christina. Thanks.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 1, 2012
1:49 PM

Post #9026107

Happy Birthday, Yellowstone!! 140 today.
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

March 1, 2012
4:19 PM

Post #9026288

Hubby and I just booked reservations for Alaska in August. Really looking forward to it!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 1, 2012
4:38 PM

Post #9026314

Wow - great! Can't wait to go there.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

March 1, 2012
5:24 PM

Post #9026370

Sounds awesome!! That is on our bucket list!!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 1, 2012
5:27 PM

Post #9026374

Are you doing Denali? We loved it!

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 1, 2012
5:27 PM

Post #9026375

The NPs in AK are HUGE!
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

March 1, 2012
5:32 PM

Post #9026388

Nice to read about all of your travel plans.

We last did YS like VV from Bozeman but in late Dec and Jan some years ago. It was breathtakingly beautiful and empty of people, but mighty cold.

I love Mt. Desert Island and Acadia National Park in Maine especially out of season when the locals aren't loco from the hordes of tourist. We use to go a few times a year, but haven't been for a while. Must go back.

I also like Quebec City in the dead of winter as riding back an forth across the St Lawrence when it is frozen over is an awesome experience and way cheaper than going to Antarctica which is on my bucket list.

I love most places in Europe and need to go to the two countries that I have somehow missed, Ireland and Portugal. I spent a few months in Paris back in the late 60's and then again in the 70's and found it to be the best city to poke around on foot. I never found the locals rude, just uninterested in my poor attempts at French, though out in the countryside they never seem to care how bad my French was (it is bad) and they where always nice. I had a car break down in the south, and found that the parts were unavailable, so the mechanic told us about an American couple that might help us find a place to stay while he made the part. They took us in for a week for a couple of modest dinners out and then the mechanic guy charged us far less than the new part would have cost, because he could make it. That was a revelation, plus the car worked perfectly.

Last time I went to Savannah, we just spent the day wandering about before heading south to a cheap place near a great BBQ shack that we wanted to try. Sterns Road Food find. We have an old friend that we lost track of until I recently found out that he and his wife own a beautiful BB there, so we may have to visit them soon.

I want to get to Alaska too, so I am jealous of SOJ's summer plans. My Dad spent the war years in the Aleutians which would be on my agenda if I ever get there.

We are leaving from Miami on Monday for Cuba. I have never been, nor has my brother, son and Mother who is treating us to this trip, but my husband spent a great deal of time there prior to 1961 when he was last there. It will be amazing if we can visit his old haunts, but we are not sure that will happen. But no matter as I find the best things with travel are the unexpected and unplanned parts of the adventure. I will post pictures and news upon our return.

In late June, exactly the wrong time of the year, we are off to New Orleans for a wedding for a week. It will be hot, very hot, but fun. Our son will be there as he is in the wedding party so that will make it even better.

Bon Voyage or at least good travel dreams to all. I always have my bags packed. Patti
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

March 1, 2012
6:23 PM

Post #9026455

NPs???

Debi, yes, we're spending a couple days in Denali. Here's a link to the tour we're taking: http://www.alaskawildland.com/alaska-coast-to-denali-journey-i.htm
After the tour, we are going to stay an extra day and fly to Redoubt Bay where we are pretty much guaranteed to see an abundance of grizzlies - probably too close for comfort! We got the 400mm lens already :) I am really excited; I have wanted to go to Alaska for many, many years. We finally decided to splurge this year because it's our 20th anniversary in October :)
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

March 1, 2012
6:26 PM

Post #9026458

We saw moose, caribou, wolves, grizzlies, and dall sheep

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

March 1, 2012
6:27 PM

Post #9026463

Sounds like some exciting trips are planned...would love to see photos from Cuba, Patti.
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

March 1, 2012
7:22 PM

Post #9026529

Have a great adventure, Patti
SongsofJoy
New Hampshire, NH
(Zone 5b)

March 1, 2012
7:34 PM

Post #9026543

Just catching up on lots of missed posts. I am embarrassed to admit that I've been watching the Bachelor too. I don't really even like the show; but it's so ridiculous that it's almost fascinating. Bill, you forgot to mention that this season bikini's are optional. That should get Victor on board...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 1, 2012
8:18 PM

Post #9026572

National Parks.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

March 1, 2012
9:59 PM

Post #9026624

Which of them are bikinis-optional? Will my season pass get me in?

Don't miss the opportunity to take a bush pilot flight over any of the glaciers in Alaska. We went to Wrangell-St. Elias in 2005, and it was absolutely unbelievable.

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flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2012
5:12 AM

Post #9026761

I didn't realize they opened Cuba to travellers again


wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 2, 2012
5:53 AM

Post #9026804

Have a great trip SOJ - optional is right there was a skinny dipping and one can only guess what happened in the fantasy suite :) I am sure that is why she is still around - i digress

patti cuba sounds like it will be an interesting trip - your mom is a wonder
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

March 2, 2012
5:54 AM

Post #9026807

The US govt. has some sort of "Cultural Exchange" travel permits that are silly and a sham, but available if you travel with a small group. We are allowed to bring back educational material, art, books and CD's (music) but nothing else produced in Cuba. No cigars or Rum. We had to jump through a million hoops to get approved by both sides. I am not sure if the Cuban requirements where worse than the US's permits. Many of our Canadian friends go often, but we never wanted to circumvent our laws, no matter the politics and fly down from Canada or from Mexico. We had to get Canadian dollars as they charge a huge amount to exchange US dollars and greenbacks are not an accepted currency. I dug around and found some Euro's, Swiss Francs and a few other possible paper currency from past trips to take and spend. I doubt they will want the few dollars we have left from Papua New Guinea. We aren't big shoppers so we will spend our cash mostly of it on food as the rest of the trip has been prepaid for by dear old mum. She will be 97 on March 12th. I can't wait for all the yummy Cuban food and hope we can get her a cool cake. Patti
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

March 2, 2012
5:56 AM

Post #9026808

VV, suppose I could take a detour and go flying like you did in Alaska. Beautiful. Patti

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

March 2, 2012
5:57 AM

Post #9026812

Educational material from Cuba?!! :-)
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

March 2, 2012
6:05 AM

Post #9026825

Victor, I'll bring you some. I am hoping I can find interesting books on plants, cooking, music and maybe a promising baseball player or two and a lost Hemingway manuscript and then for Castro to graciously give us back the families land or at least a fat check for it. I guess I will have to settle for a cook book. Patti

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
9:51 AM

Post #9391214

We are thinking Colorado for summer vacation. Anyone been? Recommendations? We will hit Rocky Mt. Nat Park. Prob a day or so in Denver and Co Springs and hit the Air Force Academy.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2013
10:04 AM

Post #9391235

We did RMNP, and some skiing. We did the Silverton Durango excursion train, very pretty area at the top. Mesa Verde NP too.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
10:05 AM

Post #9391237

Thanks, Deb. I will look into those. We like trains.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2013
10:07 AM

Post #9391238

That is an awesome train. Narrow gauge, hugs the mountain. The million dollar highway is a pretty drive with lots of switchbacks. Near Oury I think.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
10:09 AM

Post #9391244

Did you like Mesa Verde?
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2013
10:15 AM

Post #9391254

Not my favorite, more history than natural beauty. It's interesting, but I don't think I'd go out of my way to see it.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
10:18 AM

Post #9391260

Yeah, that was my impression. Think I'll skip it. There are 13 NPs in CO!
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 20, 2013
10:19 AM

Post #9391262

Really?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
10:28 AM

Post #9391271

Here is the NPS page. If you uncheck all the options excepts National Parks, it will say 13.

http://www.nps.gov/state/co/index.htm?program=all

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 20, 2013
2:13 PM

Post #9391513

Only stopped in Denver while on the train across the country...elevation gave me problems...

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 20, 2013
5:49 PM

Post #9391745

Colorado is awesome, Victor! I agree with Debi...the Durango-Silverton train ride is great. My stepdaughter just finished the renovation of the school house in Silverton. It's a fun little town with lots of history. I also think Mesa Verde was low on my list after we saw it. There are some very cool Indian ruins there though. If you haven't done Zion and Bryce Canyon, they are awesome and close enough to couple with Colorado if you have a week there. You pick great places to take your kids! They are getting a wonderful education through travel, IMHO. You can't go wrong with the National Parks. Now that I've turned the corner on my descent into thyroid hell, I'm hoping we can do our western trip next summer since we had to cancel it this past fall. 🚗 ⛽

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
6:04 PM

Post #9391759

Thanks, Louise and so happy you are feeling better!

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 20, 2013
7:59 PM

Post #9391850

Colorado parks...where to begin? We've been through a couple times (October 2004 and July 2005), and I'd love to go back again.

Fall 2004

Mesa Verde was quite interesting - Marianne was hot to go there because of her interest in archaeology and past civilizations. It wasn't far off the path we chose to drive from KY to Salt Lake City for the ASLA conference in 2004 - which included Pike's Peak, Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Silverton/Durango, and Arches in Utah.

Black Canyon of the Gunnison is simply unreal.

After the ASLA conference - and a breeze through the southern Utah national parks - we hit Colorado National Monument near Grand Junction. That is worth the price of admission as well.

Summer 2005

On this trip, Marianne and I were squiring David - our oldest German nephew - around some of the impressive sights of the western United States.

We started out going through Rocky Mountain National Park, and proceeded on to the Black Canyon of the Gunnison again. That drive through the northern course of the Colorado River is spectacular in itself. We then went down the little-traveled State Route 149. You must pay homage to the site of the Slumgullion Pass mass wasting. Get your geology geek on...
http://landslides.usgs.gov/docs/schulz/FieldTrip_C.pdf
http://slumgullionecotrade.com/services

Finally, we visited Great Sand Dunes National Park (in a flooding rainstorm, at that) before heading south into New Mexico. On the way back to Denver, we got to see the immense surprise canyon of the Rio Grande - which is not evident from just driving around southeastern Colorado or northeastern NM.

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victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
8:40 PM

Post #9391916

Cool - thanks, vv. I love geology so I'm up for that. Sounds like I will have a tough time narrowing the list!

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 20, 2013
8:56 PM

Post #9391938

That's always the way. Have extra choices in pocket, in case weather (or other considerations) goes south where you want to go...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
8:59 PM

Post #9391941

We will probably be there 7-8 days.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 20, 2013
9:38 PM

Post #9391962

Looks like that NPS site is incorrect. Think they included other sites like monuments, forests, etc. Looks like four nat parks - Rocky Mt., Mesa Verde, Great Sand Dunes and Black Canyon of the Gunnison.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 21, 2013
7:36 AM

Post #9392223

check out the coors brewery :)
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

January 21, 2013
7:38 AM

Post #9392226

Victor, Hope you will be doing some dwarf conifer hunting while out there. I heard that the Denver Botanical garden is worth a visit. I would check on DG Rocky Mountain Gardening forum for current information on local gardens and nurseries as well as restaurants. I lived in Colorado, but too long ago to make any cogent statement except that it is the scenery is breathtaking. Patti
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 21, 2013
7:39 AM

Post #9392227

buffalo bill museum?
bbrookrd
Nantucket, MA
(Zone 7a)

January 21, 2013
8:24 AM

Post #9392309

Victor, check this site out to drool over some alpines and conifers posted by a great Colorado blogger. The whole site is amazing but this posting is about a nursery that you might want to visit. I found this site, Prairie Break, awhile ago when looking for articles about plants from South Africa. I now dip into often.

http://prairiebreak.blogspot.com/2012/04/alpine-treasure-trove-laporte-avenue.html

Quoting:There are many blessings to being a gardener in Colorado, but I count as chief among these the relative proximity of Laporte Avenue Nursery, one of the greatest alpine plant nurseries in the world, and much much more. Owned by Kirk Fieseler and Karen Lehrer, they have grown thousands of plants and list hundreds of kinds of plants every year on their wonderful...



Wha, I worked at an Ihop in Boulder in the 60's, horrors beyond horrors, as a second job for a short while, and the Coors heir, Pete, came in a few times. He was a lousy tipper and incredibly rude, but made sure you knew who he was. So I never drank the beer again and would never venture into an Ihop either after seeing behind the scenes at that joint. Coors now owned or merged with Molson which I do drink while in Canada at the cottage. Patti



This message was edited Jan 21, 2013 11:25 AM

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 21, 2013
9:19 AM

Post #9392358

Cool - thanks, Patti!

Don't like Coors at all - no taste to me.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 21, 2013
10:03 AM

Post #9392394

We took the Coors tour and the guide asked if we knew the nickname for Coors light. I said water?

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 21, 2013
10:23 AM

Post #9392420

Hee hee! I like Blue Moon these days.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 21, 2013
10:37 AM

Post #9392434

I think we sampled that there and where I learned to drink it with an orange slice. First time I tried it.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 21, 2013
11:02 AM

Post #9392464

There are a number of wineries in the Grand Junction area - not too shabby Cabernet, if I recall.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 21, 2013
1:16 PM

Post #9392632

My sis lived just North of Denver, I was only there once but not for site seeing. I'll find out from her any other recommendations
Lots of punkers there

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 21, 2013
1:21 PM

Post #9392641

Thanks, Jen.

Anyone do Pike's Peak?

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 22, 2013
4:59 PM

Post #9394080

Thank you, Victor. It feels so good to be pretty much back to what is normal for me. I am so grateful for the terrific care I received at Mass General in Boston. They really deserve their reputation from my experience there.

VV, those are great photos from your interesting trips. We may have to work in a few more stops if we get to do our western trip.

Wha, the Coors brewery in Golden is the view from my DSD Liz's office. 😜



flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2013
6:48 AM

Post #9395800

Victor here's some info from my sis
Estes Park, CO is in the Rocky Mountain National Park- north of Denver They will see elk, wild fox, coyote.wild sheep, mule deer. They can take the trail ridge road to the top of this beautiful area. There is a visitors center at the top (12,000) feet and the scenery is breathtaking. But before you head up to the top it is advisable to stay at the 5,000 feet level for a day or two until the body adjusts to that before heading into the park area at the higher elevation.
My advise would have them fly into Denver spend time in Denver area seeing the sights, have a rental car and head to Estes Park (1 hour drive there)
You can hike on trails, see waterfalls, go horse back riding, spend time in Estes Park which is a small town. -rent a cabin or motel room for a day or two or just drive up from the Denver area for the day. To get into the park there is a fee for the car. The park straddles the Continental Divide and Trail Ridge Road is the highest continuous highway in the U.S. The park is 415 square miles it has beautiful lakes too.In the winter we rented a cabin and went snow shoeing, had a fire place in the cabin and kitchen area and we enjoyed the wildlife and they have horse drawn carriages and barbeque in a heated round Ute tent plus great main lodges with hot tubs and buildings with indoor heated pools.
The address to Estes Park is P.O. Box 2810, Estes Park, CO 80517 Your friends can write and get their catalog about all of the events. Also triple AAA has info about the park and accommodations. I haven't checked on line to see their web site but I bet the chamber of commerce has one for Estes Park.

.

2. If they stay around Denver there is a botanical Gardens that is wonderful, plus the large Science Center Museum, Children's Museums- hands on for the children also an amusement park in the Denver area. It was called Six Flags of Denver but they have renamed it. There is also a restaurant called the Fort, that is shaped like a fort and has then best food and around- and many of the U.S. Presidents have visited the restaurant. Plus there is a restaurant called the Broker. It is in a bank building with the bank vault opened. The Russian Tea Room is really neat also in Boulder, CO.


3. The other thing they can do is go to Summit County Colorado where there is Copper Mountain, Silverthorne, Arapahoe Basin, Frisco and Keystone.
Arapahoe Basin is where I first took my ski lessons. They have indoor ice skating, swimming pools, hot tubs, specialty shops, snow shoeing, sledding etc. Lodging in Summit County you can call 1-888-786-6482 for all information in this area.

She said if you decide where exactly you want to go she can give you more info

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2013
6:51 AM

Post #9395804

Thanks, Jen! Prob will stay a few days in the Denver area and then go west and possibly south into Utah. Glenwood Springs looks nice. Will be very tough to narrow this down!
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2013
7:06 AM

Post #9395819

some nice NP's in Utah - Arches, Bryce, Canyonlands, Capital Reef, and Zion. I have been to all but Capital Reef. Forget Colorado go to Utah. Backpacked camped in Bryce and Zion - fantastic.

And you do not need to acclimate yourself at 5K ft. - when I went to Nepal that was done at 10K feet for a day.

flowAjen

flowAjen
central, NJ
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2013
8:13 AM

Post #9395890

But you already live on a hill top you're used to it :-)
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2013
8:30 AM

Post #9395919

Ditto to what Bill said, been to all but CR, Utah is beautiful. We tent camped along the Colorado river, I dreamed I fell in the river trying to pee in the middle of the night. Needless to say, I waited til daylight.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2013
9:28 AM

Post #9396010

You guys are NOT helping! :-)
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 24, 2013
10:07 AM

Post #9396084

yep on our trek out there we tent camped a long the colorado in a couple places - they have pull-offs along the highways so folks can just stop and set up camp.

funny jen - the "top" of the hill here is about 700 ft. above sea level - maybe.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 24, 2013
10:17 AM

Post #9396095

I'm on a hill too - but only 240 ft.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 24, 2013
1:06 PM

Post #9396286

Whenever we have gone to see Liz and family in Colorado, we have found that we are not bothered by the elevation change if we drink a lot of water. Liz's wedding was in Estes Park, and we took a drive to RMNP and the Continental Divide and I had a severe headache and nausea very suddenly when we arrived at the visitors center. Once I wobbled in and drank a bottle of water I was fine.

I agree that the NPs in Utah are all very worth the diversion from Colorado.

Debi, that is so funny about your dream! Perhaps you were subconsciously aware in your dream that Bill was also there and passing by doing his thing. 😜

I love the Colorado River area.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
3:42 PM

Post #9399375

Arches NP vs. Canyonlands???

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
3:44 PM

Post #9399377

Also - Vail worth a stop??

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2013
3:46 PM

Post #9399380

I vote for Arches and skip Vail...unless you enjoy gazing upon tourists. LOL

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
4:00 PM

Post #9399386

Depends what she looks like...
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2013
4:06 PM

Post #9399396

I think Arches too if you can only do one of them

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
5:11 PM

Post #9399437

Would probably stay in Moab.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 27, 2013
5:16 PM

Post #9399441

Depending on whether you are a "hike a great distance and plan to camp out a few days" or a "drive to and through as much as possible (buffet-like) and take walks where possible" type...

I think you will enjoy Arches National Park immensely, and save Canyonlands for when you don't plan to go anywhere else. It will still be pristine when you get there.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
5:17 PM

Post #9399443

Thanks. Yes, with our compressed schedule, Arches looks more doable.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 27, 2013
7:41 PM

Post #9399575

i agree with Arches - just do not hike alone and get caught between a rock and a hard place...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 27, 2013
7:46 PM

Post #9399580

Ughhhhh. I'll be careful not to 'fall in Arches'.
wha
Pepperell, MA
(Zone 6a)

January 28, 2013
6:06 AM

Post #9399866

bring a pocket knife just in case...

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 28, 2013
6:23 AM

Post #9399886

Oh, my, the puns are too much!

This message was edited Jan 28, 2013 9:24 AM
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

January 28, 2013
6:31 AM

Post #9399897

The best time to see Arches is sunrise or sunset, when the rocks are drenched in color.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 28, 2013
6:36 AM

Post #9399898

Will have to be sunset. I don't do sunrise!

sallyg

sallyg
Anne Arundel,, MD
(Zone 7b)

January 29, 2013
5:19 AM

Post #9400997

Near death experiences are wonderful for jump starting a career as a motivational speaker. Flexibility, deductible travel expenses...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 29, 2013
12:39 PM

Post #9401467

Tentative plan for overnights is 2 in Denver, 2 in Estes/Rocky Mt Park, 2 in Glenwood Springs, 1 in Moab, UT and last night back in Denver. That still leaves one night. Will either add one to Moab or pick something between Moab and Denver.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

January 29, 2013
2:55 PM

Post #9401691

Bring a western bird book & good binoculars...

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 29, 2013
2:56 PM

Post #9401694

Check!

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 29, 2013
8:04 PM

Post #9402093

Overnight in Grand Junction. Good food and wine to be found; orchards nearby in Paradise. A ride around the rim of Colorado National Monument is exhilarating.

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2013
5:13 AM

Post #9402275

Thanks, vv. Will check it out.

ViburnumValley

ViburnumValley
Scott County, KY
(Zone 5b)

January 30, 2013
3:01 PM

Post #9402913

I might have meant "orchards nearby in Palisade" - not Paradise.

Rimrock Drive is the grand tour of the Colorado National Monument.

http://www.nps.gov/colm/index.htm

victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

January 30, 2013
3:21 PM

Post #9402943

Cool. Thanks.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 5, 2013
5:11 PM

Post #9409677

Loved Moab! Sounds like a great trip, Victor! I agree with Debi about seeing Arches at sunrise or sunset. Fabulous color! What lucky boys!
Permi_Eden
Meadville, PA
(Zone 5b)

February 7, 2013
9:00 AM

Post #9411111

A couple of sunsets from the cottage on Lake Ontario.

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ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 7, 2013
5:41 PM

Post #9411564

Pretty...my niece used to live in Irondiquoit...now she lives above the Erie Canal...
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

February 9, 2013
8:15 AM

Post #9413001

Victor, your trip sounds great.

A taxi driver once told me in Aspen that if you take aspirin or a similar blood-thinner for a week before travel to high altitude it helps to acclimate more quickly. He learned that in the army.

We're planning an all-inclusive in the Dominican Roublic in March, got a great deal on the rooms at the Lifestyle Tropical resort. All we want is an easy warm week. My SIL gave us a tip, not to take a package that includes airfare. They make you leave early in the am and change planes at least once, could get in at the end of the day. So we booked our own flight, will be at the resort by noon.
debi_k
S of Lake Ontario, NY
(Zone 6a)

February 9, 2013
8:56 AM

Post #9413034

We took the ski train to Winterpark, CO and had a little way to walk while carrying ski equipment, it was noticeable then.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 9, 2013
1:14 PM

Post #9413293

Someplace tropical sounds great right now!
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 9, 2013
2:08 PM

Post #9413362

Thinking the same thing and I don't even have snow in the yard.

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2013
3:37 PM

Post #9414543

Awwww...wish you were all down here so we could play together! House showings start tomorrow morning. We're as ready as we can be, I think. LOL

Here are a few blooms they will see...

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victorgardener

victorgardener
Lower Hudson Valley, NY
(Zone 6b)

February 10, 2013
3:37 PM

Post #9414544

Good luck!

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 10, 2013
3:40 PM

Post #9414546

Thanks, Victor! Whatever happens will be fine!

Here are the rest of the blooms from this week...

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ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 11, 2013
5:30 AM

Post #9415061

The flowers look wonderful, Louise! I wish I was looking at them instead of 3' of blankety-blank snow in my yard...good luck with the house...
Jan23
Salem Cnty, NJ
(Zone 7b)

February 11, 2013
6:37 AM

Post #9415146

So, how do you feel about the snow, RD? Heehee

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 11, 2013
4:53 PM

Post #9415962

Oh, loving it to pieces!

DonnieBrook

DonnieBrook
Southwest , NH
(Zone 5b)

February 17, 2013
1:08 PM

Post #9422147

Thanks, Marilyn. 30s tonight here. It has been too hot for me down here most of the winter. I know that may sound strange and ungrateful, but the temps have been so warm we have not been able to get out for day trips with our dogs much. I know what you're all thinkin...what a whiner! LOL. Anyway, it will be nice to have some sweater weather for a change.

ROBINDOG

ROBINDOG
Thomaston, CT

February 17, 2013
1:38 PM

Post #9422172

Actually, I do understand...not a fan of hot & humid in the summer, like the temp from 55-75...nice temps to walk & work outside...brutal wind here today, so I guess I'm whining, too!

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