It's almost time for WSing in my Zone 9a! (Well, it is for me...)
This year, I hope to keep a much more accurate account of my WSing experience. Last year was a phenomenal success with the tomato and bell pepper seedlings. My stock was better than HD and Lowe's put together!
I've since relocated to another house, and will be WSing in a brand new growing environment. While the process will not be new, the results will be dependent upon the untested new climate. The locations are only 7 miles apart. However, the old microclimate borders on being moist and damp most of the Wintertime (even without rain), while the other is relatively dry most of the time (and has different light patterns). This will be interesting...
Who else is on board for beginning their WSing with the Winter Solstice (December 21st)?
Chime in with your progress, and let's Winter Sow together!
Sounds good- that gives me motivation to get my milk jugs out of the shed and in the house so I can cut and prepare them. If we stay busy Spring will be here before we know it!
I just did some cleaning in the garden that I didn't get done earlier. We havd had temps below 0, and so much snow- I am amazed to see the carrots still green, cabbage is OK, of course garlic does fine, and so many flowers that have survived the deep freeze. Should I cut strawberry foliage back now that they have frozen?
I have some bottles ready to go and some seeds ready. I plan to do some at a time as I have time starting with hardy perennials first. I garden time/energy/schedule/weather permitting, not bu the phase of the moon. I find phase of the moon gardening interesting, however, and would like to learn more about it.
Wintersowing is a great cure for the winter blues ...
I hadn't been feeling well this fall and I also hurt my back and shoulder. The fall cleanup didn't get as clean as I wanted. I had left some pots of soil that had contained annuals and veggies sitting on my patio table. They froze to the table during the recent 10-20' cold snap. My soil, peat moss, manure, etc (which I store in double garbage bags in garbage cans) is also frozen solid. It has been a bit above freezing here during the warmest part of the day, so I am hoping that I can get them pried off the table today. I reuse soil by mixing it with peat moss and other amendments and time release fertilizer using formulas loosely based on the Cornell formulas. I need to get more peat moss and other things from Lowes. I hope that they are still in stock.
My seeds and containers are ready,but still I need to defrost and mix the dirt.
I am a newbie to ws. I have collected the milk jugs but not ready to start yet.
You all in zone 5 when to you start ws?
I am guessing we start with perennials and then later do annuals?
If you all have the patience and are willing to drag me along I would love to watch, learn, and grow.
In the meanwhile, go to the forum and look for the thread that contains the WSing discussions from the beginning we had back last year. Read through them. There's loads of helpful information in the discussion and answers to lots of questions that were asked back then.
You've got time! ^^_^^
It's a GREAT adventure, and you won't believe the success you will have!
I read most of the posts last year and followed off and on thru the summer, just didn't get in gear to WS last year, but hope to this year. I have been collecting milk jugs and read all the trials and tribulations on how to name them so...I feel pretty good about starting, just forgive any obvious crazy questions I might ask...LOL Not starting anything until the holidays are gone and things put away, then need to tend to the live (least I hope they are still alive) plants I have going now, then...finally w/s.
Hi everyone. Last year I did this for the first time and was so excited, but I learned something very valuable -- don't use Miracle Grow! Things came up fine, but quickly fizzled out -- refused to grow! ???? I lost most of what I started. Even when using Mircle Grow the old fashioned way -- seeds in little pots, not winter sown, the outcome was horrible.
Very dishearting. . . in fact I have yet to plant anything this winter. Need to get some decent medium and start some, we still have plenty of winter left to do this.
I'm converting my new garden over to Tapla's pine bark fines recipe soon as I get to the supplier that sells pine bark the consistent size of Sugar Corn Pops. His container mix is a 5:1:1 ratio of pine bark fines:perlite:peat (you can use 1 part MG for the peat ratio).
There's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG discussion over in the Soils and Composting forum, under a thread called "Miracle Grow..." where Tapla explains the mechanics of this fast draining, oxygenated container growing medium that holds enough water to keep the plants exceedingly healthy!
Lida -- the first thing I noticed in that thread... i've only gotten thru the beginning posts...
the MG tomatofreak is referring to - for use in her POTS, is not recommended for pots... it is supposed to be used to mix in with your garden soil.
I accidentally bought this SOIL mix last year ... it DOES not work that well in pots, though i did mix it in with old potting soil and had good results. But it says right on the bag not to use in pots.
Hey all, new to DG website. I'll be wintersowing for the 1st time this year, just learned about it. I'm going to have to get creative with the containers since I haven't collected any milk bottles. I've been reading your previous threads and I'm excited at the thought of trying this. The issue with the seedlings dying off early may be damping off, which I learned about from one of the websites I ordered seeds from this year The recommendation to prevent this is Rootshield, anyone have experience with this, and has it helped with the damming off if you've used it? Annette
Hi, I've been reading this section for days now and I'm excited to give WS a try!!
One question I haven't seen, or maybe just missed. Can I use the white milk jugs, or does it have to be the clear ones?
Quoting:Can I use the white milk jugs, or does it have to be the clear ones?
Gymgirl's rule is the one I use: if you can see a shadow-y thumb through it, there is enough light. Having said that, I do make use of the pure white Hoods milk jugs, because I never have enough of the semi-opaque ones that I prefer. I just cut off most of the top half of the Hoods jugs, and then tape a gallon size Zip-Lock type bag over the top (with some vents cut in the top to admit water.)
Thanks guys! Y'all were very fast to respond. Our milk comes in the white jugs so I'll keep saving those and use the ziplock bags over the top. I'll put the word out for some clear jugs.
I use vinegar ALOT so I have those as well. I just started saving though, so I might not get to sow as much this winter. It'll be good practice for next year tho. lol
Thanks for Moving us forward TCS. I'm behind, but will start tomato and bell pepper seeds this weekend. Then when they're under lights inside I will start some flowers in planters covered with vented plastic wrap. They'll stay outdoors for spring-summer and grow in place (hopefully).
I actually WSed the best seedlings I ever had last winter, totally outside, in gallon milk jugs. I gave most of them away to a friend who grew a bumper crop, in ground. The ones I planted in my eBuckets didn't do doodley. Not one ripe tomato all spring.
My next tomatoes will be grown in ground, soon as I build two raised beds, hopefully by February 19th! Doing annuals will give me more time to prepare the garden.
Gymgirl, I'm glad you can garden outside in February. We're still enjoying our warmest weather that predicted for Georgia this winter!!!! Another ice/snow/sleet storm coming through in the next couple of days here. 3rd on in less than a month. Should we fire our weatherman?LOL:-) Guess I'll have to live vicariously by wintersowing. I'm so glad that I found this forum. Annette
Hello everyone ,this too will be the 1st time Ive ever ws`d ,wish I had a long time ago .. LOL I have grown under lights for 2 yrs 3rd this yr. I love it . Did tomatoes last yr didn't do well for me after I moved them outside,I acclimated them well before,they were set out in the garden,then it was a scorcher of a summer too..So I will be doing those totally outside.and I will buy some just in case..
I'm getting my jugs together today,have some stashed at work,have a bunch here .Hope Ive got enough,probably not.LOL
Need input seed starting mix or potting soil ?
now I should make a list of what I'm planting in jugs and what inside.Decisions decisions.OH BOY OH JOY
Thank you Terese,that is a lot of information.just got my seeds out and I told the dh looks like this could get out of hand.!!! lOL Where I plan on setting my jugs are pavers do I need to set them on pallets up off the pavers a few inches ???
I did my first few wintersown containers last night. 1 milk jug, which was not as hard to cut as I thought it would be. The kitchen shears worked really well to cut the bottles used. I also used a clear 2L soda bottle and an OJ bottle as well as pots in a flat that I then put into clear plastic and tented the plastic with cut wire hangers. I left a flat of poppies open to the elements on purpose to compare it to the wintersown poppies. I looking forward to seeing the first set of seedlings, which won't be anytime soon since we're getting 3 in. of snow per hour now and tomorrow, sleet and freezing rain.
I will be setting up on the east side of the house.So mine will be in morning sun .Afternoon shade,which is very good for me and a convenient area.This will work well for me.Id better go get some soil an get going