Hi folks, It looks like the old thread with 200 post needs a fresh start.
We came from here; http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1141885/
Please feel free to hop in here and gripe about the blasted freezes we have had lately. My yard looks like a dead zone. Only a few cold hardy plants remain green and most of them are weeds.
I was burgled last Friday/Sat. morning. And the tossing of my bedroom found me things I had been wondering about.
The Burglar was interrupted Sat morning in the spare room.
My friend backed out of the house and went and got her fellow. The 'B' took 39" flat screen TV, a paper shredder, and the 12 pack of Rolling Rock beer.
Didn't get any of the 3 VCRs, power tools, miscellaneous money here and there.
I have had 2 window ac units removed and the windows no one can see outside boarded up inside.
I hope it made some GM a nice Christmas Gift.
I am not even really concerned about it.
You can't control what happens in life, but you always have a choice as to how you react to anything.
I have been in Jax for this cold weather and am headed back south in the morning.
Have a great New Year.
Here's to a Healthy, Wealthy and Happy 2011.
Don't worry about the firebush. They were made for cold winters. I have three and although they have froze back, they come back better yetter in the spring.
Sidney, sorry to hear about the break in. Guess it's a good thing you are headed south. Life's a bit better in the redneck country.
Warmer weather for the next few days. I watered all the stuff in the GH today when I got home. The heater does it's best to keep up. If I had a proper GH, it would probably do better, but, it is what it is. Only a little frost bite on some leaves, but the orchids, and other tenders will be just fine.
LOL, I am none the worst for whoever thought I needed to help them for Christmas. I am just glad I had what was on their 'shopping' list.
I am somewhat concerned about the non-functional Toshiba Lap Top. I think all my data is pretty innocuous. (I love spellcheck;)
My home is uninsurable, so I'm sure my non-existent co pay and yearly payments would be more than replacing the missing "stuff"!
I was planning on moving that 39 inch into another room and getting at least 46inch to go in it's place.
I have no service in Okee yet and I may leave it that way. People pay so much more attention when there is no TV background.
I was going back today, but when I left Costco I couldn't find my phone. So I came back to the house tonight. I called from my Skipe and could hear it and even see a faint light! But it took some searching to find it down the seat belt hole. ;)
I am going to load up my donkey and hardy plant to go S in the morning. I saw a small plant lit with white lights and think my donkey needs lights on it's plant.
This RV park in Okee advertises 'Minimal landscape park".
So I was thinking a few plants were not even considered. As with most places the rules apply to some of the people, some of the time. I was just interpreting it wrong. I am trying to accept turning in my Super Woman suit and will not buy more than a dozen coleus and a dozen brugs.
Molly if the native firebush is in a pot, will it still comeback? I replaced almost everything last spring and even bit off way more than I could chew. Should I water well in the morning? I should have a little statement for the Patio don't cha think?
You are welcome for the thread.
I would think the firebush will come back as long as you water it, just as you normally would with a potted plant. Even though a plant can stand the cold, they still need some hydration as the cold dries them out.
I lost almost everything in the GH last winter that was planted in the ground out there. Plants that were outside in the ground, froze back and returned. The same things in the GH froze back and died because I didn't water them and they couldn't get the rain. (Last winter was a tough one as I was working from dark to dark mostly 7 days a week. No time or energy for gardening)
This winter, I have more time, am heating in there when needed and watering more frequently.
The breeze around here smelled like smoke today, even before the fireworks started. The fire was a long way away but it was a big one according to the news:
13,000 acres have burned in a south Brevard County conservation area, and now the wildfire is considered 90 percent contained, officials said this morning.
But smoke from the fire in the 52,000-acre Three Forks Conservation Area will continue to be a problem for the next few days, the Florida Division of Forestry said. Motorists are urged to use caution, especially on Interstate 95 and on U.S. Highway 192, in south Brevard and north Indian River counties.
We had a wildfire here which got 300 ac. but came extremely close to homes --- burned the golf course grass. It's contained now but we still are dealing with the smoke as well as authorities say the smoke from Brevard & I.R. county fires.
There's a burn ban in effect here & no fireworks yet last night there were idiots shooting off fireworks!
There have been some wildfires in Okeechobee too over the month of Dec. I think they just managed to get the last one 100% contained. Then yesterday there was a fire started in Jupiter. That might be what you're seeing to the east. Some talk of that fire being arson.
According to La Ninya that cold snap we had is over and gone, so from now on we get a mild winter. I saw a flock of robins in Orlando yesterday. Not sure if they are going North or South, because they usually don't stay around here.
For this pic, if you lean back, you can imagine seeing Cheif Osceola in a picture frame.
Yes, I talked to Jeremy and his computer is still in the Buddy shop being repaired.
He's coming over in the morning to help me haul stuff out of the garage. I am also unloading some misc. yard art on him.
Hi, all. I somehow lost my connection to watch this thread. Our computer was totally smashed and crashed by the Facebook "Koobface" virus but our techie friend was able to salvage it. I fortunately had used the free backup service of Mozy.com so that all our photos and documents were able to be restored. What a hassle, though! Avoid opening any email or photo links on Facebook without first confirming with the friend that they are authentic. Once you click on a link with the "Koobface" virus, it is all over for your computer. The link usually is titled something like "You look really funny in this video/photo" etc.
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It's such a beautiful day outside today (and yesterday!). I spend yesterday downtown doing some necessary paperwork for my annual confirmation that I am still alive and eligible for my disability pension, as well as looking into resuming my business license so that I can legally sell plants and art (I have my registration with the Dept. of Agriculture as both a nursery and a plant broker, but haven't done anything with it yet). I also checked into necessary building permits for an above-ground pool and for some electrical upgrades. This will be my first time pulling building permits for my own work at home and it already seems like the process may be a total headache. I'm hoping to spend some time outside today, cleaning up the patio and organizing the art studio/workshop (and helping Sidney with garage organization at her place if she is still up for the chore).
Does anyone here recognize what this shrub/tree may be? I don't recall planting it, so I think it may be a native or exotic invasive. It looks like some sort of fruit or nut tree to me, but I don't think it is pecan or other trees I'm familiar with. It has alternate, eliptical shaped leaves with slight serration on the leaf edges. The color is "autumn" tinging from the recent 20s F temperatures, but it has held its leaves throughout the cold weather. I wanted to ask here before I post in the Plant & Tree I.D. Forum. Any help with an I.D. will be greatly appreciated.
So happy you rescued the kitty. Mine are all rescues, and I think they are always a bit grateful. I have a picture of my kitty Moonshine laying in a pot, and my bearded dragon sleeping in another. It is amazing any of my plants manage to survive.
I think you are onto something with the cherry I.D., John. Now I guess I will need to wait until it flowers and makes fruit to know if it is a common choke cherry (Prunus virginiana http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/22441/ ) or something much more desirable like an American Plum (Prunus americana http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/77656/ ). I do eat lots of cherries when they are in season and cheap, especially the Rainier golden cherries, so it could be the sapling from a stray pit I spit out. I may post the photos in the I.D. Forum to see if anyone there can pin it down.
Does anyone know anyone with an email address of mmseed@hotmail? I have received 2 emails in the past couple of months from this one, with attachments. The comments on the page say, "I know I trust you."
I haven't opened the attachments and have deleted the email as I don't know who it is.
An interesting thought occurred to me today. I bought this computer in July and there is a temporary Norton installed that just ran out a few days ago. Since it ran out, a lot of the spam I was getting seems to have stopped. Do ya think they plant the spam to encourage you to buy the real subscription?
LOL Molly!!!!! Seriously though; I wouldn't doubt it a bit. And funny thing...the thought crossed my mind on occassions. I did have Norton also when I bought this computer & I did have lots of spam too then when the free trial ran out I went to AVG (paid version) & I don't get spam. I will say this: From listening to people gripe about spam long before I ever got a computer; when I got one I created an online email address (Yahoo, MSN, Gmail etc...) & from day one when I did any online shopping or anything online which required my email address I used THAT email & NEVER revealed my personal email outside of my close friends & family. I'm sooooo glad I did that. It has saved me much grief.
And that's also why I think you might be right about them creating spam so you get scared & keep them. NO ONE had my personal email for me to get spam --- why did I get it when I had Norton? Interesting pondering ...
I was just thinking of you this weekend. Remember the dragon fruit? Well, I took what was left and got all the seeds out and planted a bunch in a dome flat and have it in my garden tub. There were a lot of seeds, so I planted some out in the yard too. (those I don't expect to see til spring) but I have germination in the indoor flat. Only 4 of them so far and they are about 3-4 inches tall. I am excited about this as I haven't done well on seed starting in a long time.
These will be an interesting plant to do trades with at the next round up, whenever and wherever.
As for the fruit, they were small and jam packed with seeds. Can't see how anyone could actually eat them...and I didn't even give them a taste...maybe next season.
Molly, I'll have to check with Beckie & see how hers are doing.
Speaking of citrus...I know these won't grow where either of you live but...
Has anyone ever heard of a Calomundin? SOURRRRR, OMG, way worse than lemons, but I have a cake recipe using them & it'll knock your socks off it's so good! I've hunted & hunted for one of the trees but the citrus canker made anything citrus hard to get much less something obscure like Calomundin.
We have a rare and unusual plant provider up here in CT named Logee's. They have a variety of lemon called Ponderosa which grows fruit as large as a grapefruit. I would like a citrus tree in the yard but don't know if I could bring one down and also the possiblity of canker. Any thoughts? Are there any varities of citrus that are canker resistant? The Calomundin mentioned above sounds good. I like kumquats and they are also sour but very good. I am very new to the world of citrus being a native northerner.
You can not bring citrus trees in to Florida nor can you ship them out, but you can get great cold hardy citrus trees from Just Fruits and Exotics, I have bought from them a number of times. http://justfruitsandexotics.com/Citrus.htm
I just checked a few references on-line and the Calamondin seems to be an "heirloom" naturally occurring hybrid between an orange and kumquat or possibly a tangerine and kumquat (no one seems to know for sure from what I read).
It apparently is one of the hybrids that can be grown from seed and will remain true to the parent plant. If you know someone with a Calamondin that doesn't have any other citrus trees nearby to cause possible cross-pollination, you could probably grow it from seed.
Several notes in Plant Files are from tourists that bought a Calamondin at gift shops along the highway and carried the small trees home to use as house plants (and they seem to be well-suited for that purpose), so you may also look at any local "tourist trap" type outlets along the interstate.
I picked up a lot of spam from that gardening magazine that was giving away a free issue, you remember the one. They sent one magazine, then send you a bill for the subscription. Never got those spams until after that. I had to go to each one to unsubscribe the spam. Didn't work, so then I replied to them and addressed them to "blue words". They quit.
Then when I got this computer, I started getting them again. I still think they are Norton plants.
I've been meaning to share this with you and thought I better get a pic before they faded away. I have had this planted in the GH for 4 years now. Never bloomed. Last winter it froze back to the ground and in the spring I pruned off the dead branches.
It came back with a vengeance. This branch has grown up and over the cross beam 4 ft or taller and has been blooming all winter. Chinese Hat
Molly, very interesting plant! I've never seen it before. Is it this one: Holmskioldia sangunea ? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/93144/ I notice various colors to the flowers shown in Plant Files photos. Do the flowers start out light green and get redder with maturity?
I started a thread in the Plant & Tree I.D. Forum about my unknown shrub which current opinion seems to be it may be some sort of wild cherry from Florida Forum suggestions. You can follow the thread here if you want to:
I thought I would have to spend the entire day working on a drip from our main water shut off valve, but for once, it was an easy fix that only required tightening the nut around the handle. Now I have the day free to play in the yard! I wish it weren't so cold out today, but it is bearable when in the sun.
Yesterday was a total bust, spent trying to fix an electrical problem with the dishwasher. A wire had burned through the insulation and was shorting out by touching the metal frame. It's a wonder it didn't burn the house down or shock one of us into another dimension! I gave up on trying to fix it after almost getting electrocuted, and after not being able to get the shut off switch to function properly even after rewiring. The dishwasher went to the curb and was only there about 15 minutes before someone hauled it off. It was a frustrating, mostly wasted day.
I debated much about spending the money, but I didn't get the chain saw chain I went shopping for, so the roses were the substitute purchase. I wanted to grab the roses while they were available because the last time I saw 'Angel Face' at Wal-Mart, they were all gone before I returned to buy one.
Here's my latest greatest bargain - battery powered grass shears from Lowe's for $1.85 (sold online for up to about $50!). They were out of the box with no charger or instructions, but I couldn't pass them by. I now find it will probably cost about $16 for a charger including the shipping, unless I can find the charger at the local Black & Decker store. They are just what I need for the long-intended topiary garden (for which I don't even have any shrubs yet to prune).
Yes Jeremy, that is the Chinese Hat. The only color I have noticed on the blooms is what is shown in the picture. no where near a red. I was reading MotherNatures comments on the other page and she said to prune them back or they will get really big. Well, I rather wish it would. I was only forced to prune it back hard last spring because it had been frozen. Imagine...this is a zone 10 plant. Of course, if I had it outside in the elements, it might very well not have survived.
I love those "blue" roses. I found one at a nursery when I was in Seattle last year. It was about 3 feet high in a 5 gallon pot. I did not bring it home on the plane but gave it to DG EWeed and his wife as a gift. I took cuttings, but they did not root. Anyway, I found one over on Newberry Road that is grafted on Fortiana root stock. The nurseryman told me that rootstock is the most resistant to our nemotodes. Mine is called Lagerfeld. A very pale huge lavender bloom with a very strong wonderful fragrance. It's still in the pot in the GH. I wanted to wait until spring to plant it out where it will get a chance to settle in over the growing season.
Good to see you back Jeremy.
Thanks for the spelling correction on the calamondin Mary!
Thanks for the info. on possible ways to get them Jeremy & Sandy!
Molly, cool Chinese hat.
JP --- those lemons which are so large are in my experience mostly skin & such & hard as the devil to squeeze or get anything out of. If you want lemons you can use then get some varieties like they sell in the store. Get them locally.
Thanks for the help on Calamondin and lemons. Local and native always seem to be the best policies when trying to get good plants. I think it is always a good sign when a plant comes true from seed. Why fight nature or experience? Is there any way to prevent cankor? It seems like a real nemesis in the citrus world.
With regard to spam, I add unwanted senders to my 'junk senders' list or 'blocked senders' list and they go directly to my junk folder. I check that folder periodically as my filters are set high and sometimes filter mail that I would actually want. Unsubscribing works as well.
For any of you that want citrus who don't mind taking a ride to plant city Harris Citrus on Hwy 39 they will sell you a grafted tree 3-4 ft in a 4x4 18inch pot for 10 bucks the have over a hundred different. I have bought quite a few here. They also have peach, plum,apple you name it they have it. Nice people to do business with have been at it over 25 years
We have Citrus Greening disease in south Florida. It is a bacterial disease that kills the tree. Some of my citrus trees got it in 2005. At one time I had 13 trees in my yard. All have died or are dying. It is spread by a tiny insect and orange jasmine is an alternate host to the disease. I think it is illegal for nurseries down here to sell orange jasmine (Murraya paniculata).
You are right I have been looking for the orange Jasmine I really loved that no where to be found. I have quite a few citrus and other fruit trees here too can live with out the jasmine. Peach trees are in bloom now so are the nectarines
We have the Citrus Greening up here in SC also. Our county is quarantined as are several others. So far my own trees are fine but it is scary to think about losing them. I am hoping this horrible cold weather we are having this year will kill off the insect that vectors this diease.
I checked a few years ago and Lakeview Jasmine (Orange Jasmine - Murraya paniculata) is on the list of allowed citrus trees that was created decades ago to include and permit all citrus-related tree species and cultivars that were currently being grown in Florida. Of course, the situation may have changed with the onset of new diseases. I had a M. paniculata a few years ago that I bought at a nursery in Green Cove Springs, but it died in the freezes about 3 years ago. I haven't tried to replace it, but it was a wonderful tree with a fabulous scent, the advantage being that it flowered frequently rather than just once a year as most citrus seem to do.
I was looking for Murraya paniculata for a long time & then last year or the year before was told by 2 knowledgeable nurseries in my area that it was a host to the disease & therefore illegal to sell here & that I would play hell finding it. Well, I don't want to screw up the citrus industry or any gardeners trees so I quit looking. It's too bad though. They do smell like sheer heaven. Sigh.
I've sent an email to the Dept. of Agriculture to ask if M. paniculata is currently banned from sale in Florida, or if there are any other restrictions for growing or propagating the plant. I can't find any ban or restrictions from a brief on-line search.
I have Orange Jasmine that grows into a 6' bush around here. It re-seeds easily and transplants and re-pots easy too. We have lots of babies if you want some. They also make great low-light house plants, although rather twiggy in stature. Will take some frost, and I think you can get them blooming in six months, from a re-sprout after a freeze. No thorns either. The bloom you can clip and use as a corsage or boutenier, pardon my french. Yes, they smell like heaven.
Last I saw, Orange Jasmine was not illegal, but it needed to be grown in a screened structure as a result of Citrus Greening. May be that most growers don't see enough of a profit to make it worth their while. Fortunately, I planted my dozen bushes years ago.
Very interesting, Carolyn! Thanks for the link to the notice. Interesting that the notice is a bit nebulous about whether residential gardeners need to screen the M. paniculata or whether the requirement for screening the plants applies only to nursery growers (as indicated in the last paragraph of the notice).
Our Florida Dept. of Agriculture citrus expert didn't have an answer, but forwarded my request for info on any ban on M. paniculata to the Div. of Plant Industry experts. I am awaiting a reply from the Plant Industry folks.
Believe me, I would have done just about anything to prevent my citrus from getting citrus greening disease!!! My next door neighbor has an orange jasmine (M. paniculata) hedge!! :( Don't plant it, please!! It can carry the disease but does not show symptoms. It just isn't worth it!
Here's the official word from the Florida Dept. of Agriculture/Plant Industry Division:
Murraya paniculata (Orange Jasmine, Lakeview Jasmine) is NOT banned for sale in Florida. Hurrah! Now I definitely want to replace the one I lost in freezes a few years ago. I can screen it to keep out the citrus greening disease.
Quoting:Murraya paniculata is regulated like citrus with Rule/Chapter 5B-62. All propagation is required to be performed in an approved structure. There is not a ban on the sale of it.
Jeremy, I've got about a dozen of them, each about 10' high, that I laid out as the perimeter of my "Moon garden". When they're all in bloom, the scent is amazing. And the bushes vibrate with the force of all the bees working the flowers.
Thanks for the news, Dana! I am looking for an apple tree 'Anna' and a pollinator for it. 'Anna' requires few chilling hours, but needs something like an 'Ein Shemer' or 'Dorsett Golden' for cross-pollination to set fruit. I will run by Home Depot tomorrow or this weekend to see if they have the apple trees. Lowe's also sometimes has fruit trees with low chilling hours for about $19.95 for a 6 - 8 ft sapling. If the trees are showing signs of stress from neglect while in the store, they are sometimes marked down half-price or less.
More info on 'Anna' http://www.willisorchards.com/product/Anna+Apple+Tree
(I just noticed the Willis Orchards website info above -- prices and shipping are cheap but they have a $50 minimum per order. Anyone in Jax or otherwise nearby want to co-op to make up a $50 order, send me a D-mail.).
Thanks, Dana! I will raid HD upon the arrival of my tax refund. I also need a pollinator companion for my Gold Plum (Prunus salicina 'Gold') and a pear tree that died back and may have regrown from the root stock, so I'm not sure what variety if may be.
I will have to check to see if cherry trees also need a separate source of pollen. My cherry tree has been flowering the past few years due to the increase in chilling hours, but it has never made fruit.
I went to the Butterfly Rainforest at UF today for their plant sale. Picked up a bottlebrush, blanket flower, a cuphea cigar plant, Mexican Age bush, , Peruvian Lily and a Dutchman's Pipe.
Got their, didn't want to pay $4.00 parking so went to a meter. Didn't have a penny, but there was 18 minutes on the meter. So I hurried. Made my choice, paid and ran to the car. No ticket.
Went home and fertilized my fruit trees, trimmed several different bushes and looked and found my Iochromas as coming back from the ground. Won't be trimming their dead branches until after the 10th of March.
I won't be putting the new plants in until after that date either.
Got involved in a co-op or two, so my spring planting season will be quite busy. I am looking forward to it. I am tired of winter.
Anyone like Humming Birds? Here's a link to a live feed...humming bird cam...2 babies in the nest. Addicting! Also if you click on the top of the page on wildlife cams you get a page listing bunches of neat live cams. All over the world! Boars in Europe, wolf cams etc...