Echinacea - Mac&Cheese, Sunrise, Merlot, Summer Sky & Bravado
Lots of Salvia
Some new Penstemons that i ordered
Zinnias and Marigolds
Various Flax's [i've got some Whites that i have never tried yet]
I haven't started yet, but I've got the soil, some labels done with the paint pen as suggested, and the plant list written in order of what will be sown first, color, height, etc. My seed list includes 5 poppy varieties, 3 delphinium varieties, hollyhock, catmint, Italian alkanet, wild flax, canterbury bells, Shasta dasies, gas plant, lupines, fox gloves, butterfly weed, echinacea, larkspur, nasturtium, sweet peas, bells of Ireland, cosmos, convolvulus, zinnias, Chinese forget me not, Indian cress, cypress vine, bell peppers. Yes, I'm an overachiever the first time wintersowing. This forum has been very helpful and I can't wait to get started. I hope I get ALL these seeds planted. I'll do the perennials first, hardy annuals, then annuals in early Spring when it starts to warm up. I know some things should have been started in the fall, but live and learn, I'll try to do better this year:-) Annette
no, dont need caps, but if you are using something like a large yogurt container... use that lid but poke holes in it.
for the milk jugs, like in my photo above.. you leave the caps off, that way they get snow/rain and have a bit of ventilation. Some folks put 'slices' [like you would when baking a pie] in the upper portion of the jugs, for more vents and for precipitation.
and you can just post a thread like... " new and looking for seeds for postage"
there are many who have an abundance of seeds... I usually donate my excess to the gal who gives them away...
that would be "arejay59"
I have a huge spreadsheet with about 257 seeds in it right now. i think i have about 90% of my seeds listed in it, but I'm waiting for a large package in the mail that should have another 50+ seed packets. [most of these should be listed but not all]
and like i said, i will not sow them all -- and many traders give tons of seeds per pack.
TCS, that is some spreadsheet girl! I wish I could be that organized. I've started making a list on paper of what I think I'd like to try. My nieghbor is wanting to start landscaping her place, so I'm thinking of planting extras for her. I'm not gonna tell her about it uncase I suck at WS'ing lol
Anyone done ws-ing with kids? I sort of volunteered to teach a Sunday School class - actually one now and one in May/June - on wintersowing because some fools at the church with NO experience decided to start a garden (in mebbe Oct. for winter squash). I said well it's too late now for squash this year (this is me last fall, speaking) but here's what you can do this winter to have lots of pretty flowers in the spring. So now I'm giving a wkshop 1/30 for the kids at church. It's been a few years - do I need waterproof labels or am I OK if I have the darn paint pen? I'm famous for my NOID seedlings, and that seems like a terrible thing to do to a child!
Thank you guys for all your help so far and offer for seeds. I went ahead and posted a thread like tcs suggested. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1149259/
I'll also start looking around online today, and hopefully be sowing next week! I'm pumped lol
This looks like a stupid-long list, but some of these are for other people who can't get seedlings to start, or I just need onesie-twosies for a pot, etc. Plus, I trade extras with other gardeners and give some away (good garden karma!). I'm not a hoarder, I swear.
I haven't gotten all of these planted yet, but I will within the next 2-3 weeks. I have the flats ready, and I am writing out name tags and making newspaper pots for the plants that don't transplant well. I start mine in flats, it's just easier for me to transplant that way. I put one layer of bubble wrap under the whole row of flats, then the seeded flats on top, then another bubble wrap on top till March.
Albizzia (mimosa tree)
Alcea nigra-my plants are seedlings from heirlooms at the Old North Church in Boston.
Amaranth-Love Lies Bleeding
Antirrhinum, Snapdragon-3 varieties
Aquilegia “Green Apples”
Brassica, Mizuna Green
Kale, Winter Red
Medium –mix, saved seed
Centaurea “Black Magic”
Centaurea-Dark Blue saved seed
Cerinthe Kiwi Blue
Chenopodium Strawberry Spinach
Clematis terniflora-saved seed from my vine
Coreopsis-saved seed of annuals, mix
Cosmos Limara Lemon
Tall red/yellow/orange mix-saved seed
Delphinium-Larkspur saved seed-blues
Larkspur-saved seed white and pink
Dianthus superbus Poem
Miss Willmott’s Ghost
Euphorbia marginata Icicle
Merveille de Quatre Saison
Seed Savers Exchange Mix
Paris Island Romaine
Lathyrus –High Scent
Fragrant Mix from Seed Savers
Marshall’s Mix-Marshall is my husband, he knocked over a container of open flower seed packets. We’ll see what grows out of this! Campanulas, Cosmos, Delphiniums, Scabiosa, Poppies, etc.
Nolana humifusa Little Bells
Papaver-I know, I have a problem, but there is no 12 step group
Peony Black Swan
Peony Mix-saved seed
Hens and Chicks
Greek poppy from JL Hudson
Single Lilac breadseed poppy (from seeds purchased for food)
Single white (saved seed)
Fragrant purple-blue heirloom mix, saved seed
Fragrant white, saved seed, probably Rainmaster
Prunella-probably Freedlander Blue, saved seed
Rudbeckia Green Wizard
Solanum x burbankii Wonderberry
Verbascum-purple mullein, saved seed
Zinnia-cactus flowered, saved seed
Zinnia Queen Lime
Zinnia Queen Red Lime
Zinnia Swizzle Cherry & Ivory
For those of you who have done this before, has anyone ever tried winter sowing Tropical milkweed? I would like to start some by winter sowing, but wondered if it is too early or would that be okay to do now. Anyone? Thanks.
I do my Milkweeds -- I do Scarlet and Silky Golds
and i will start them in March -- though i have done them earlier... but if they germinate tooo soon, and you have a killing frost in early spring -- they could be toast.
Tamara... I think any seed can be winter sowing - it's just WHEN should it be winter sown.
tropicals and tenders, should be done closer to spring.
my first year, when i knew absolutely nothing about it...i did everything in Jan and Feb. we had an early warm up - where much of the seedlings germinated... I had aluminum pan fulls of morning glories, and containers of Cosmos and a few Milkweeds... some died when we dipped back into the 20's for highs in the day and close to zero at night.
I moved much of it to my covered front porch and covered the containers with a blanket to protect them at night... some I brought in the house.
So, since then, i try not to do my annuals too soon, just in case we have a huge warm up then a killing freeze.
Thank you ,I see I did ws floss flowers ,not a good idea ! I will bring them inside.I ll be starting all my annuals inside. I need to get stuff down here for that,all up, in the Back of the shed !! dH will get cold doing that !!
I'm so impressed with all of the winter gardening going on here!
I'm just trying to start a few things. Some seeds that didn't work so well last year;
Giant Imperial Larkspur and sweet peas.
I live in an apartment with precious little space; but I rent a garden plot a few miles from here. Last year, for some strange (won't repeat) reason, I felt compelled to plant lots of veggies. Turns out, stinkbugs LOVED everything I planted except the lemon grass.
This year, I'm giving in to my inner gardener and planting flowers! I'm trying to keep a special emphasis on cutting flowers.
Does anyone have any tips for getting larkspur to thrive? (I just read one mistake I made was not germinating it in the cold)
MD might be too hot for sweet pea, or the season miht be over by the end of May (but start in April) . I dunno - I used to have wonderful luck with direct sowed sweet peas and then I had kids and now I can't grow them worth a crap so I think you should ignore me.
Wow, you guys have been busy! If you have extra seed to trade I would love to trade seed for a few iris, or dls. I have a list on the forum seed trades. Send me a dmail if interested.
I would love to try this. I bought Jet Star tomato seed yesterday at Walmart. Also some mixed gourmet greens. Does anyone start them in a jug. Maybe I should use a cold frame. Here is a link to my thread. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1149150/
Marlene,we are Winter sowing outside.Do you have a deck or patio ??/ Scroll back up this thread look at tcs posts with photo`s.I`m new at this too 1st time ,I also grow bedding plants under lights starting that in a few weeks.
I wintersowed tomato seeds on March 1 last year. It worked out really well. I forget if they germinated towards the end of March or the beg of April, but by the end of April I had beautiful green stocky seedlings, which I transplanted once into 4" pots for sale at the table in my front yard in May. And no hardening off, because they already are!
Some of you are in a warmer zone than I am, so you would start earlier.
you dont have to have milk jugs... any sort of container that will hold at least 3-4" of soil, with room to grow for the seedlings -- will work.
I use a lot of juice, qt sized, and half & half. I use gal of vinegar too. Qt sized yogurt containers with lids, those #2 deli contianers with lids ... really anything where you can add soil and a cover.
Diamond, I saw your pictures last year in another post and your plants were awesome. I'm sowing, but know I don't have enough beds to plant everything. So, I'll be making some new beds too. The others, I will share with friends and sell some to get funds to buy even more seeds to plant. LOL.
Today I planted:
Purple wave petunia
Purple and silver tidal wave peturnias
Agastache Apricot Sprite
Agastache Pink Pop
Nerine Bowdenii, light and dark pink
roseycats... no, not too late. what is your zone? about a 6?
you can pretty much sow any seeds you wish.
once your containers are filled with potting mix, and seeds, place them outside and just wait for them to germinate.
I am a first time ws'er and just thought of something! I used as many milk jugs as I could get my hands on, but used more of the 2 ltr. pop bottles as had more of them. Now to the question: How do you get the new plants out of the containers to plant? lol I saw in tcs pic the milk jug with the top open, and full of tiny new seedlings. Some of mine are going to look like that.
sometimes you may have to cut the container, down the side, to get the seedlings out.
some - when they do the Chai Pet thing... mass of solid seedlings, the whole thing usually pops out when turned up side down.
But say you did larger seeds, like 4-O'Clocks, sunflowers or morning glories... where it will be a single plant, you can go in with a small shovel or even a spoon and scoop out the seedling that way. But if they are wedged in there, get a knife of scissors and just slice the side of the container to get them out.
I do recall i had tough times with some containers but not all. can't recall which ones though.
I only WS those plants that need stratification of flunctuating temps, like perennials.
Below are my plastic shoe boxes from last year. All have perennials. The one on the right is all iris from my crosses. The one in the center have small plastic containers of small seeds such as Prairie sunflower, Columbine, Butterfly plant, and Clematis.
I use Miracle-Gro potting soil topped with seeding mix, which is finer. I pre moisten, sow the seeds, then snap on the lids. I check to make sure no animals have disturbed the boxes. Other than that, I don't check since they won't dry out. The boxes are placed on the north side of my house. I brought the box of iris seeds in April and placed under lights. They began to sprout a week later. The others sprouted as the weather warmed in May.
I also wondered about 'sterilizing' the containers, which I did not do. I just washed out the milk jugs and pop bottles good. I have some seedlings starting, but hope I didn't kill the others before they even got started!
LoL the funniest thing happened. I went out to check my jugs and there was 1 missing! It was not out in th yard any place. My jugs are inside my fenced patio area. No one can see them. I came home one day and my gate was open. I know someone has been back there but I'm ot sure what they were looking for. Hopefully, I won't lose any more jugs!
I had some dianthius and coreopsis sprout, then we had a cold snap and they all died. I'm hoping there are some more seeds that hadn't sprouted yet. I had 3 purple bean vine up when it froze, have had one more up since then. My pop bottles seem to be doing better than my milk cartons. I currently have nothing up in them ... but not giving up.
Terese Im thinking about moving my jugs up to the garden to get more sun,they are only getting a few hrs of sun,they need a bit more I think.Yes I was wondering what would pop 1st .petunias are popping under lights,hoping they do well.
Mine have not yet been "hot" - not really even that warm... honestly, we have not had many sunny warm days. we have cool [40s] and sun, or clouds and 50s ... like i mentioned above... i dont have to get mine out of direct sun until May... i put them in an area where they get about an hour of noon sun and have my kid water them daily when i;m gone.
I don't know what I am going to do with everything I sow. I had intended to put them in a new bed I'm going to make, but DH asked if we could put that off a while until we get some other things around here done. UGH!
Crit, may I ask why he wants to put off the new bed? If it's because of building the beds, have you tried lasagna gardening? I made several beds like that last year. You can layer the beds and plant right away. Are you planning to make raised beds?
It's because he wants me to get all the boxes out of the garage I haven't been through since we moved here in Dec '09. LOL It's a catch 22. I want shelving to put some of them on, and he can't do the shelving until I get the boxes out of the way. ^_^
going to move my jugs up to the garden for more sun ,mine are on the east side of the hous e,and are shaded quickly.Garden gets alot more sun ,then Ill move them back down in May an start splitting an potting up. not hot enough to do dammage here either,july it would cook them ...LOL
LoL I took your advice from last year and numbered myu jugs as well. In the heat of WSing I did neglect numbering a few but most are numbered. I tried three of the Penstemon this year - Husker Red, a purple and I think another red variety.
I can hardly wait. Have you all ever planted anything in an eavesment? I plan to this year. the workers are alway leaving their trash and piling branches behind my shed. I am the person who always has to clean it up. I have a bicket full of junk the utlityworkers have left behind. I thought I was being nice by killing off the grass to make digging easier for them so now I think I need to plant some flower to let them know that area is cared for and maintained and is not a dump site so their trash.
I had to strategically place my jugs on my back deck so that the neighbors could'nt see them. I'd hate to get a nasty letter from the HOA. I can't wait till the trees leaf out to give the backyard more privacy. I've still got the annuals and vegetables to ws. I'm going to plant the growing poppies this weekend. Put down slug bait yesterday, so hopefully poppies will be safe from those slimy little mouths.
Glad we dont have HOA to worry about out here ,although now everyone one who drives by can see my milk jugs setting in the garden,all 50 of them !!! They probly wonder whatt is she doing now...LOL If they come to the door then they are hit with the lights from my in house greenhouse !!! 18 flats under lights.
Ive never had trouble with slugs eating my hostas ,I have an abundance of chipmunks,they eat them..Yea (the slugs)
We have a HOA, but no one would complain about it... though i am glad i dont live next to the Pres of the HOA. but mine are all in my back yard.. .though I have had them on the side of the house before - where everyone could see.
its not really that bad ..anyway..and they are gone in a short time. I talk to pipi21 and she has an awful time trying to hide stuff ??? Geez that would be awful... mine are all line up neat an tidy wouldnt that count..tidy..LOL
I may have to try the Sevin. I have been dusting with the Diatomaceous Earth. It hasn't stopped them from eating my lovely hostas. I think I have seen Sevin at the Dollar Store. I better snatch it up. It never lasts until the last of the gardening season.
Now I'm going to have put out Sevin with the slug bait. The hosta's start out fine then wind up looking crazy before the season is over. The hummingbirds love the hosta blooms, does the Sevin treat the plant systemicallly or topically? I'd hate to harm the hummers. Annette
It depends upon what you are using it on and if you want the white powder showing. I use the spray (which is liquid form and you mix it with water) to get into things like tomatoes, etc. I think they both work as well. The spray does leave a white residue, but not like the powder.
That's exactly what I was thiking about that white powder. You use it because you want nice looking healthy plants. But it leaves all this powder which makes your garden look like it's infected with something serious. LoL
I use a duster it poofs dust ,never looks bad,unless you gett heavy handed.Going to need a new one,hope I can find another i like as well.this one is a squeeze puffer..love it,you can puff under the plant,works great.
Anita ,cant wait to meet you,and go plant hunting..
Yes, I have lived here for 40+ years. I would love to move some place where the weather is 70 - 80 degrees all year long (Hawaii). When I retire I may move to Charlotte if I can stand being away from my grandbabies.
What about you? CC has to offer the best of both worlds??? What type of dust applicator do you have? How easy is it to fill with product? I saw some at Lowes but they seemed pretty expensive. I can remember the old fashioned sprayers my grandmother had that was something like a pump action. How long does it last?
LOL ... they open at 9 and are having drawings for $50-$500 gift certificates at 1:00. Have to be there to win. Hope DH will watch the DGD's so I can run in for an hour! ^_^ C'mon down! I have plenty of room!
cathy , those spiney things work really well thats great,they are knarly little things !!! I wouldnt crawl over them either.Neibor has 6-8 of those linning her drive,messy trees,but pretty..
anita ,my puffer is a canister -11high 4inches across,it contained Rose dust.
There is a plug in the bottom to refill it,its soft plastic,dont know what Im going to do when it dies !!! You just squeeze it,shake the can an squeeze,Itts wonderful.cause you can aim it under the plants,so the puff of powder wafts every where ,with out a heavy layer of powder.our fair little town used to be the nutts,Had all kinds of great stores ,not since walmart arrived .It is a very pretty little town ,new Schools ,no Shopping...
I am so lost as to what you are refering to. The round seed ball from the Gum tree. I will have to google the seeds. Inned a nice canister to store my Diatomaceous Earth in and a good method to apply it. It's harmful to your lungs to breathe too much of that stuff in.
In Missouri, they fall all year. One put me in the hospital when it attacked me walking into work; looked up one second to say hi to a friend and landed on my face the next. Tore my open the back slit of my dress up to my undies, sprained my ankle, skinned both palms so bad I couldn't use crutches. I really don't like them.
Hey Diamond and Crit, yes that is my shade garden above is post 8444105. It was taken last Spring. The garden is just awakening now, and the hostas are already showing. I'm always happy to share plants. The hostas were bought here at a local nursery 6 yrs ago for $2-3 dollars per plant, and they've mulltiplied quickly.Unfortunately they're NOID. I'm going to plant some of my winter sown poppies in that bed as well, where I feel they'll do best with our GA heat. cathy4, now that I've wiped the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard after reading your post about THE ATTACK OF THE SWEETGUM SEED BALL, I wanted to say that I'm glad you fared well, after such a scary experience. I throw them back into the copse of trees behind my house all the time. Now thanks to your post, they'll be thrown into my hosta bed instead for slug prevention. I'll just have to make sure I don't step on any, falling would not be good since I've had 2 spinal fusions. Here's a picture of the shade garden taken today.
for your NoID's... i'd say the big one up front is Frances Williams, next to it sure looks like June. The other 2, in the Undulata family. [they look familiar, but there are just so many in that class ... it's possible the gang in the hosta forum could ID them]
those are my best uneducated guesses.
Cem...that garden is great! Since my yard is shade, shade and more shade, doppled shade/sun and a tiny bit of full sun, I'm always looking for great shade plants. I have a HUGE garden in my front yard that we made, that is hard clay that I have to add some good dirt to this summer, around the plants that survived planting last year. Then add more shade plants to let it fill in. Anything you have to share I would be glad to trade, purchase or pay postage on starts. I don't care if they are NOID's. TIA
This may sound like a dum-dum ... but I have several of the jiffy trays with seeds popping up, but am also having some damping off. What is causing this, and what can I do about it. I left the lid on until most of the seeds had sprouted as directed, then propped it open for a couple days, then took it all the way off.
Peroxide has been working for me, too. I've always been too generous with water so jumped on this tip when I read about it on one of the forums a few weeks ago. So far, perfect.
Another thing I started doing at the same time is a light dusting of cinnamon on all my flats and pots. I saw one gnat last week, realized I'd forgotten the cinnamon on a few things, dusted them and haven't seen any since.
The third tip for preventing damping off which I haven't needed because the others work so well, is watering with camomile tea. I'm not sure what the right strength is for that, but someone here will know, I'm sure.
OK, thanks. I haven't watered them as they are still damp from the original water to expand the pellets, and I didn't want to overwater. Maybe I should of done this with the water I used at the very first.
I use cinnamon in my dirt, but didn't think to do it on the flats.
cinnamon for gnats ?? wow,i had a few they are gone now,cinnamon so simple.
ive got more sprouts,still really cold here,and going to be this week maybe this weekend we will get some warmth.
Was in the local resturant saw my neibor,I asked what they were up to,they are working on a fund raiser for the animal shelter,Plant sale,well looks like I will be donating as much as I can..good thing ive got 50 jugs sown...i over seeded Im sure, soo I will be able to split chunks up, and i will have plenty Im sure,need dirt tho
we have been so cold again, i have not checked for seedlings in 4 days or so... just didnt think any new ones would be popping up... we are gradually warming up... should be low 40's by the end of the week. Bright and sunny today -- very deceiving.
It's rather unscientific of me, but I don't know. Anecdotal experience, and while I know that the plural of anecdote is not evidence, it does seem to work. I'd like to know if it's bunk, and I've seen it argued pretty hotly both ways. Much like Superthrive, lol.
That is what I used to tell my staff when I trained them on the computer - just accept that it works, let the computer geeks worry about why. I saw a few gnats in the little greenhouse, will have to head out with the cinnamon, I sure like using something so simple.
I do want to know how things work, but I also am not adverse to using something that works, even when I don't know why. I'm pretty sure I don't understand anything beyond the basic concept of why my TV works, but I don't not use it because of that.
I just sprinkle it on the soil. Still working on the perfect method. Sometimes from the shaker it goes on a little heavy/clumpy. Lately I've been shaking it onto my palm and taking pinches with the other hand. So far I haven't killed any seedlings, so I figure it doesnt need to be an exact science. Other ideas, anyone?