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tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 6, 2011
10:02 AM

Post #8295473

Anyone has their sowing started yet??

I should be starting within the week.

I know for sure, i'll be doing some

Various Agastaches
Echinacea - Mac&Cheese, Sunrise, Merlot, Summer Sky & Bravado
Lots of Salvia
Some new Penstemons that i ordered
Zinnias and Marigolds
Various Flax's [i've got some Whites that i have never tried yet]

when i get closer, i'll post a full list.

Terese

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Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

January 6, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8296406

I haven't started yet, but I've got the soil, some labels done with the paint pen as suggested, and the plant list written in order of what will be sown first, color, height, etc. My seed list includes 5 poppy varieties, 3 delphinium varieties, hollyhock, catmint, Italian alkanet, wild flax, canterbury bells, Shasta dasies, gas plant, lupines, fox gloves, butterfly weed, echinacea, larkspur, nasturtium, sweet peas, bells of Ireland, cosmos, convolvulus, zinnias, Chinese forget me not, Indian cress, cypress vine, bell peppers. Yes, I'm an overachiever the first time wintersowing. This forum has been very helpful and I can't wait to get started. I hope I get ALL these seeds planted. I'll do the perennials first, hardy annuals, then annuals in early Spring when it starts to warm up. I know some things should have been started in the fall, but live and learn, I'll try to do better this year:-) Annette
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 8, 2011
7:44 AM

Post #8298823

I dont need my lids ??? also soilless or potting soil ?

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 8, 2011
8:44 AM

Post #8298921

Tamara -- do you mean "caps" ?

no, dont need caps, but if you are using something like a large yogurt container... use that lid but poke holes in it.

for the milk jugs, like in my photo above.. you leave the caps off, that way they get snow/rain and have a bit of ventilation. Some folks put 'slices' [like you would when baking a pie] in the upper portion of the jugs, for more vents and for precipitation.
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 10, 2011
12:51 PM

Post #8302862

So far the only seeds I have are some Coreopsis seeds.
I need to get my butt in gear and buy more seeds, there are so many things I wanna try. lol

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 10, 2011
1:05 PM

Post #8302886

is there anything in particular you are looking for?

I have A LOT of seeds and certainly can not use them all...

and in the trading forum, a gal had "seeds for newbies" -- you havent been here that long - so you'd certainly qualify.

you just send postage and a SASBE and you get a bunch of seeds.

Why pay full price when you can get seeds for postage?

here is the link to the Trading forum.. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/trading/all/

and you can just post a thread like... " new and looking for seeds for postage"
there are many who have an abundance of seeds... I usually donate my excess to the gal who gives them away...
that would be "arejay59"

Terese
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 10, 2011
1:38 PM

Post #8302962

I will donate,I will d-mail nohren with a list of what I have.
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 10, 2011
3:40 PM

Post #8303170

Wow guys that is to kind of you! I'll check out that forum and get to work on a want list. Hopefully next year I'll have seeds to give away too. y'all have made my week.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 10, 2011
4:04 PM

Post #8303225

I have a huge spreadsheet with about 257 seeds in it right now. i think i have about 90% of my seeds listed in it, but I'm waiting for a large package in the mail that should have another 50+ seed packets. [most of these should be listed but not all]

and like i said, i will not sow them all -- and many traders give tons of seeds per pack.

here is my spreadsheet
[HYPERLINK@spreadsheets.google.com]


If anything grabs your fancy... let me know.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 11, 2011
5:03 AM

Post #8304032

I dont have a spreadsheet list ,wish I did.. LOL I do have a pile of seed !!!!
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 11, 2011
9:55 AM

Post #8304594

TCS, that is some spreadsheet girl! I wish I could be that organized. I've started making a list on paper of what I think I'd like to try. My nieghbor is wanting to start landscaping her place, so I'm thinking of planting extras for her. I'm not gonna tell her about it uncase I suck at WS'ing lol

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 11, 2011
11:50 AM

Post #8304805

WS'ing is almost fool proof.

I've got to get some perennials sown today.

I've shoveled the drive and the back patio.

got the seed basket on the counter and i was going thru some of them to see "what needs to go first"

got a few asters [which i have not had a lot of luck with]
Agastaches and Penstemons
and a few other perennials for starters.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 11, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8305441

Mine will be done tomorrow, all done = } And I will probly help run the snow blower too !!!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 11, 2011
5:30 PM

Post #8305551

Here are my first 8 gal jugs...

Lemon Balm - melissa officinalis
Penstemon strictus
Penstemon cobaea
NE Aster Alma Potschke
NoID delphinium [seeds i grabbed off spent plants in wisc.]
delphinium elatum "guardian blue"
DIANTHUS deltoides Arctic Fire
Penstemon mexicali "red rocks"

the new kitten was totally in my way, digging in the soil, in and out of the wet sink - tracking mud.
I will sow more tomorrow - hopefully when he's sleeping.

This message was edited Jan 11, 2011 7:32 PM

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 12, 2011
9:26 AM

Post #8306599

Anyone done ws-ing with kids? I sort of volunteered to teach a Sunday School class - actually one now and one in May/June - on wintersowing because some fools at the church with NO experience decided to start a garden (in mebbe Oct. for winter squash). I said well it's too late now for squash this year (this is me last fall, speaking) but here's what you can do this winter to have lots of pretty flowers in the spring. So now I'm giving a wkshop 1/30 for the kids at church. It's been a few years - do I need waterproof labels or am I OK if I have the darn paint pen? I'm famous for my NOID seedlings, and that seems like a terrible thing to do to a child!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 12, 2011
9:36 AM

Post #8306615

the paint pens will hold up thru the process... use Black though, I used red one year and they all faded - I have some in my garden that have been there a few yrs still looking pretty good.

I know there are a few gals that got their kids into it... but i honestly can not recall who they are, or if they are still "here".

maybe google "winter sowing with Kids" and see what pops up.

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 12, 2011
11:13 AM

Post #8306785

Yah, natch, black!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 12, 2011
5:03 PM

Post #8307462

here is my current list, at 21 containers


Lemon balm, melissa officinalis
Penstemon strictus
Penstemon Cobaea
NE Aster Alma Potschke
Delphenium - NoID
Delphenium elatum
Dianthus Arctic Fire
Penstemon Red Rocks
Agastache Surprise
Rudbechia Mix
Canna [red] & [generalis]
Agastache Apricot Sprite
Agastacge rugosa
Agastache Lavender Haze
Agastache Mystery Blue
Agastache Honey Bee White
Agastache Tutti Fruiti
Agastache Golden Jubilee
False Indigo
English Lavender
Echinacea, Tomato Soup
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 13, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8308133

Thank you guys for all your help so far and offer for seeds. I went ahead and posted a thread like tcs suggested. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1149259/
I'll also start looking around online today, and hopefully be sowing next week! I'm pumped lol
TX_gardener
Brady, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2011
1:53 PM

Post #8308984

carrie, Learn2Grow has info on projects with kids:
http://learn2grow.com/projects/forchildren.aspx

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 13, 2011
3:50 PM

Post #8309154

Thanks, TX, nothing remotely like wintersowing! I'll just wing it, I guess.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 14, 2011
7:41 PM

Post #8311149

I was wondering if anyone uses the large plastic containers that Spring greens come in for sowing. I don't drink much milk.

Teresa in KY

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 14, 2011
7:47 PM

Post #8311157

are they light weight plastic with lot of slits/holes in them? we have something similar for Grapes.
I have a pic somewhere...but i think on my PC.

but yes, i used them last year, and i put paper towels on the bottom, since the holes are so big -- to keep the soil from falling out.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 15, 2011
3:20 AM

Post #8311389

Yes, it sounds very similar. Our grapes are in trays with clear wrap over them. Paper towels in the botton should do the trick. I have used coffee filter in flower pots before.

Teresa

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 15, 2011
6:48 AM

Post #8311614

here is the image i was thinking of... there are 2 sort of up front... one is in a pan... i did that for bottom watering.

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 16, 2011
7:08 AM

Post #8313205

This looks like a stupid-long list, but some of these are for other people who can't get seedlings to start, or I just need onesie-twosies for a pot, etc. Plus, I trade extras with other gardeners and give some away (good garden karma!). I'm not a hoarder, I swear.

I haven't gotten all of these planted yet, but I will within the next 2-3 weeks. I have the flats ready, and I am writing out name tags and making newspaper pots for the plants that don't transplant well. I start mine in flats, it's just easier for me to transplant that way. I put one layer of bubble wrap under the whole row of flats, then the seeded flats on top, then another bubble wrap on top till March.

Agrostemma Githago
Albizzia (mimosa tree)
Alcea nigra-my plants are seedlings from heirlooms at the Old North Church in Boston.
Amaranth-Love Lies Bleeding
Anethum-Dill
Ampelopsis-Variegated
Antirrhinum, Snapdragon-3 varieties
Aquilegia “Green Apples”
“Black Barlow”
Asperula orientalis
Brassica, Mizuna Green
Mizuna Red
Broccoli Calabrese
Broccolini
Kale, Winter Red
Kale, Lacinato
Chrysanthemum, Garland
Calendula “Radio”
Callistephus-Hulk Aster
Callistephus-Matsumoto Violet
Campanula carpatica
Medium –mix, saved seed
Centaurea “Black Magic”
Centaurea-Dark Blue saved seed
Cerinthe Kiwi Blue
Gibraltar Pride
Chenopodium Strawberry Spinach
Clematis terniflora-saved seed from my vine
Coreopsis-saved seed of annuals, mix
Cosmos Limara Lemon
Double Click
Tall red/yellow/orange mix-saved seed
Delphinium-Larkspur saved seed-blues
Larkspur-saved seed white and pink
Dianthus superbus Poem
Spooky
Rainbow Loveliness
carthusianorum
plumarius
Eryngium foetidum
Miss Willmott’s Ghost
amethystinum
leavenworthii
Euphorbia marginata Icicle
Lactuca-lettuce
Summer Crisp
Merveille de Quatre Saison
Seed Savers Exchange Mix
Mascara
Paris Island Romaine
Prize Head
Salad Bowl
Lathyrus –High Scent
Janet Scott
Cupani
Matucana
Black Knight
Fragrant Mix from Seed Savers
Linaria reticulata
Linum-blue flax
Lychnis viscaria-Catchfly
Lycium chinense
Marshall’s Mix-Marshall is my husband, he knocked over a container of open flower seed packets. We’ll see what grows out of this! Campanulas, Cosmos, Delphiniums, Scabiosa, Poppies, etc.
Matthiola bicornis
Nicotiana mutabilis
Lime Green
Nolana humifusa Little Bells
Papaver-I know, I have a problem, but there is no 12 step group
Heirloom
Drama Queen
Peony White
Peony Black Swan
Pepperbox
Persian White
Peony Mix-saved seed
The Giant
Hungarian Blue
Rye Beaner
Hens and Chicks
Danebrog
Greek poppy from JL Hudson
Lauren’s Grape
Single Lilac breadseed poppy (from seeds purchased for food)
Single white (saved seed)
Shirley Poppies
Petroselinum-Italian Survivor
Petunia integrifolia
Fragrant purple-blue heirloom mix, saved seed
Fragrant white, saved seed, probably Rainmaster
Physalis-ground cherry
Pimpinella-anise
Prunella-probably Freedlander Blue, saved seed
Rudbeckia Green Wizard
Solanum x burbankii Wonderberry
Tagetes tenuifolia-lemon
Orange
Trachelium-saved seed
Verbascum-purple mullein, saved seed
Zinnia-cactus flowered, saved seed
Zinnia Queen Lime
Zinnia Queen Red Lime
Zinnia Swizzle Cherry & Ivory

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

January 16, 2011
7:10 AM

Post #8313210

Ooh, my formatting is weird. If there is no genus, it's because they were indented till I posted it, it's the next genus above. Sorry!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2011
7:21 AM

Post #8313223

when ever you copy/paste nicely formatted text... it never works out right.

nice list.
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2011
10:26 AM

Post #8313494

I love the Marshall's mix! lol My son's name is Marshall, I could totally see him doing something like that.
Sounds like you're gonna have a lot of planting to do this spring :0)
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 16, 2011
10:27 AM

Post #8313496

it is one huge List ...OH MY..
wyldeflwr
Laurel, MD
(Zone 7a)

January 16, 2011
5:11 PM

Post #8314141

For those of you who have done this before, has anyone ever tried winter sowing Tropical milkweed? I would like to start some by winter sowing, but wondered if it is too early or would that be okay to do now. Anyone? Thanks.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2011
5:19 PM

Post #8314156

I do my Milkweeds -- I do Scarlet and Silky Golds
and i will start them in March -- though i have done them earlier... but if they germinate tooo soon, and you have a killing frost in early spring -- they could be toast.
wyldeflwr
Laurel, MD
(Zone 7a)

January 16, 2011
5:32 PM

Post #8314173

tcs, do you do this as winter sown or inside?

what is
Silky Golds?


This message was edited Jan 16, 2011 8:33 PM

This message was edited Jan 16, 2011 8:35 PM

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2011
5:37 PM

Post #8314178

I have done them in a south facing window in about Feb. -- did that 2 yrs ago
all others are winter sown.

I found that the indoor sown ones did not really get a 'jump' on the WS ones.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 16, 2011
7:05 PM

Post #8314309

SUPER SCORE!! just checked my email that Free Cycle goes too... someone has 20-30 gal. jugs!!

I'm waiting for a reply.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 17, 2011
5:21 AM

Post #8314706

So is there a rule of thumb on what should not be winter sown ?? Iam sure there is a list of tenders ???

Great score with the jugs,I had a few left over,kept extras just in case.Told my SD about ws and she could have provided gallon jugs for 10 of us ...She has 4 kids..LOL

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 17, 2011
6:13 AM

Post #8314820

Tamara... I think any seed can be winter sowing - it's just WHEN should it be winter sown.

tropicals and tenders, should be done closer to spring.

my first year, when i knew absolutely nothing about it...i did everything in Jan and Feb. we had an early warm up - where much of the seedlings germinated... I had aluminum pan fulls of morning glories, and containers of Cosmos and a few Milkweeds... some died when we dipped back into the 20's for highs in the day and close to zero at night.

I moved much of it to my covered front porch and covered the containers with a blanket to protect them at night... some I brought in the house.

So, since then, i try not to do my annuals too soon, just in case we have a huge warm up then a killing freeze.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 17, 2011
6:34 AM

Post #8314861

Thank you ,I see I did ws floss flowers ,not a good idea ! I will bring them inside.I ll be starting all my annuals inside. I need to get stuff down here for that,all up, in the Back of the shed !! dH will get cold doing that !!
Marlene4
Silver Spring, MD
(Zone 7a)

January 17, 2011
9:56 AM

Post #8315265

I'm so impressed with all of the winter gardening going on here!

I'm just trying to start a few things. Some seeds that didn't work so well last year;
Giant Imperial Larkspur and sweet peas.

I live in an apartment with precious little space; but I rent a garden plot a few miles from here. Last year, for some strange (won't repeat) reason, I felt compelled to plant lots of veggies. Turns out, stinkbugs LOVED everything I planted except the lemon grass.

This year, I'm giving in to my inner gardener and planting flowers! I'm trying to keep a special emphasis on cutting flowers.

Does anyone have any tips for getting larkspur to thrive? (I just read one mistake I made was not germinating it in the cold)

Thanks Much!
Marlene

carrielamont

carrielamont
Bedford, TX
(Zone 8a)

January 17, 2011
10:37 AM

Post #8315361

MD might be too hot for sweet pea, or the season miht be over by the end of May (but start in April) . I dunno - I used to have wonderful luck with direct sowed sweet peas and then I had kids and now I can't grow them worth a crap so I think you should ignore me.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

January 17, 2011
11:42 PM

Post #8316504

Wow, you guys have been busy! If you have extra seed to trade I would love to trade seed for a few iris, or dls. I have a list on the forum seed trades. Send me a dmail if interested.
I would love to try this. I bought Jet Star tomato seed yesterday at Walmart. Also some mixed gourmet greens. Does anyone start them in a jug. Maybe I should use a cold frame. Here is a link to my thread.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1149150/

Thanks,
Teresa
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

January 18, 2011
4:57 AM

Post #8316664

Marlene,we are Winter sowing outside.Do you have a deck or patio ??/ Scroll back up this thread look at tcs posts with photo`s.I`m new at this too 1st time ,I also grow bedding plants under lights starting that in a few weeks.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

January 18, 2011
1:33 PM

Post #8317508

Terese, I was reading your previous post, about when to plant annuals. Did you sow your annuals along with perenniels? I cannot find the site that indicates which annual seeds can winter sown.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

January 18, 2011
1:43 PM

Post #8317527

I read somewhere... any plant that drops it's seeds to the ground, can be winter sown.

even look at some veggies... if i tomato or pepper falls to the ground, eventually it rots or decays and the seeds are eventually on the ground and you can get volunteers.

I dont necessarily sow my annuals and perennials at the same time. I wont do them until March. Some of them, if the temps are just right -- they can germinate in as little as 2-3 days.

I know that wintersown.org has all sorts of lists. I'm sure you can find a list there, and even for your zone.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 15, 2011
4:13 PM

Post #8373967

here is what i did today: [this was container #'s 22-36]

Purple Poppies
mixed, Carol Eads Mix
Queens Poppy
Queens Poppy
Flat Top Asters
Aster Alipinus - Dark Beauty
Comm. African Daisy
Yellow Holly Hocks
Actaea matsumurae
White False Indigo
JPW Gateway [Joe Pye Weed]
JPW Little Joe
JPW Chocolate Joe
NisiNJ
Bordentown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 16, 2011
8:06 AM

Post #8375065

I wintersowed tomato seeds on March 1 last year. It worked out really well. I forget if they germinated towards the end of March or the beg of April, but by the end of April I had beautiful green stocky seedlings, which I transplanted once into 4" pots for sale at the table in my front yard in May. And no hardening off, because they already are!

Some of you are in a warmer zone than I am, so you would start earlier.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
8:50 AM

Post #8375158

Does anyone know if the annual Peony Poppies can be wintersown?

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 16, 2011
9:12 AM

Post #8375212

All the annual poppies wintersow just fine.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
9:34 AM

Post #8375263

Yahhhh! I was hoping they would! I was afraid to take a chance but I thought some of the others were annuals as well.
NisiNJ
Bordentown, NJ
(Zone 7a)

February 16, 2011
9:48 AM

Post #8375278

Diamonds:

Did you get the peony poppies from the robin? I did, and WS'd them on 2/11. Just took a chance and am glad Celene says they will be fine.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
9:56 AM

Post #8375290

I ordered some and I cannot remember where I ordered. The blooms looked huge and vibrant so I couldn't resist.

Last year I WSed some poppies but the blooms were really tiny and low growing. This year will be the first year I get blooms from my hollyhocks and delphiniums. Everything else bloomed the first year.

I am going to start my seeds from Robin this weekend. My son tried to throw away one of my containers last night. I think I saw the roof raise...needless to say, that won't be happening again. LoL

Anyone try to sow climbing roses?

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 16, 2011
11:46 AM

Post #8375449

If you get those small blooms, they were resenting root disturbance or in a too-small container. Get them set out early.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 16, 2011
2:38 PM

Post #8375729

Anita... last year i planted out my some of my poppies on April 11th.
Deebie
Orangeburg, SC

February 16, 2011
3:56 PM

Post #8375890

Today I WSed:

Asclepias Curassavica
Ascepias Tuberosa
Alstroemeria (2 kinds)
Red Oriental Poppy
Peony Poppy Mix
Larkspur
Dames Rocket
Garden Phlox

Wish me well. I'm still a newbie at this.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

February 16, 2011
6:11 PM

Post #8376078

Watch out Debbie it's addictive. I had to make more beds to accomodate all of my new plants
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
3:54 AM

Post #8376536

Is anyone WS in a cold frame? I don't have enough milk jugs since all the kids are grown! I am excited about trying this and have some seeds from a trade and Wally world.
Teresa

Is it to early now?

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 17, 2011
4:25 AM

Post #8376555

Teresa -

you dont have to have milk jugs... any sort of container that will hold at least 3-4" of soil, with room to grow for the seedlings -- will work.

I use a lot of juice, qt sized, and half & half. I use gal of vinegar too. Qt sized yogurt containers with lids, those #2 deli contianers with lids ... really anything where you can add soil and a cover.
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 17, 2011
6:24 AM

Post #8376710

I guess you could use those large under the bed plastic containers too? Hmmm

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 17, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8376736

I did try googling #2 deli containers, but the pictures varied--are these the ones that are like 4-5" tall, or the ones more like 8" tall?

Sorry, I'm a maroon!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 17, 2011
7:42 AM

Post #8376865

I found some in this image... they are sort of in the center ... some times i stack the big one in the smaller #1 - then i can bottom water.

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

February 17, 2011
7:51 AM

Post #8376881

Thank you!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

February 17, 2011
7:52 AM

Post #8376884

Welcome... I've used those for many yrs with good success. and they do save well from yr to yr... i have two i saved from last year.
Deebie
Orangeburg, SC

February 17, 2011
11:58 AM

Post #8377327

Diamond, I saw your pictures last year in another post and your plants were awesome. I'm sowing, but know I don't have enough beds to plant everything. So, I'll be making some new beds too. The others, I will share with friends and sell some to get funds to buy even more seeds to plant. LOL.

Today I planted:
Purple wave petunia
Purple and silver tidal wave peturnias
Agastache foeniculum
Agastache Apricot Sprite
Agastache Pink Pop
Nerine Bowdenii, light and dark pink
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

February 19, 2011
7:21 AM

Post #8380387

Does anyone have extra supertunias for trade? Aren't they better than the waves? How about seeds for the dark and limegreen potato vines. They look so cool mixed with other flowers. LMK

Teresa
roseycats
Dayton, OH

March 3, 2011
10:26 AM

Post #8404539

I'm wanting to know if it's to late to WS? If not can you WS any kind of seeds? I have water one gallon containers.
Also where do you put these containers with the seeds in them?

This message was edited Mar 3, 2011 1:28 PM

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 3, 2011
11:26 AM

Post #8404623

roseycats... no, not too late. what is your zone? about a 6?
you can pretty much sow any seeds you wish.
once your containers are filled with potting mix, and seeds, place them outside and just wait for them to germinate.

Terese
roseycats
Dayton, OH

March 3, 2011
2:42 PM

Post #8404916

Thanks Terese
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 5, 2011
6:11 AM

Post #8407800

I am a first time ws'er and just thought of something! I used as many milk jugs as I could get my hands on, but used more of the 2 ltr. pop bottles as had more of them. Now to the question: How do you get the new plants out of the containers to plant? lol I saw in tcs pic the milk jug with the top open, and full of tiny new seedlings. Some of mine are going to look like that.

Thanks

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 5, 2011
6:13 AM

Post #8407803

I just turned them out on my hand, flipped them right side up (I flipped them onto an old plastic saucer) and separate into clumps, and plant.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 5, 2011
6:31 AM

Post #8407829

sometimes you may have to cut the container, down the side, to get the seedlings out.

some - when they do the Chai Pet thing... mass of solid seedlings, the whole thing usually pops out when turned up side down.

But say you did larger seeds, like 4-O'Clocks, sunflowers or morning glories... where it will be a single plant, you can go in with a small shovel or even a spoon and scoop out the seedling that way. But if they are wedged in there, get a knife of scissors and just slice the side of the container to get them out.

I do recall i had tough times with some containers but not all. can't recall which ones though.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 5, 2011
7:18 AM

Post #8407903

THANKS!!!!!!

blomma

blomma
Wyoming, WY
(Zone 4a)

March 6, 2011
9:13 AM

Post #8410078

I only WS those plants that need stratification of flunctuating temps, like perennials.

Below are my plastic shoe boxes from last year. All have perennials. The one on the right is all iris from my crosses. The one in the center have small plastic containers of small seeds such as Prairie sunflower, Columbine, Butterfly plant, and Clematis.

I use Miracle-Gro potting soil topped with seeding mix, which is finer. I pre moisten, sow the seeds, then snap on the lids. I check to make sure no animals have disturbed the boxes. Other than that, I don't check since they won't dry out. The boxes are placed on the north side of my house. I brought the box of iris seeds in April and placed under lights. They began to sprout a week later. The others sprouted as the weather warmed in May.

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blomma

blomma
Wyoming, WY
(Zone 4a)

March 6, 2011
9:16 AM

Post #8410084

Below are the WS seeds planted in a 6-pack after sprouting in the shoe box. They are currently overwintering in my coldframe, along with daylily crosses.

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blomma

blomma
Wyoming, WY
(Zone 4a)

March 6, 2011
9:19 AM

Post #8410092

Oct 2009 was my first year of WS and hybridizing as explained. I did 4 more boxed in Oct 2010 with many iris crosses, along with tree seeds, and perennials.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 8, 2011
4:35 AM

Post #8413848

I had wondered about using the plastic shoe boxes. Thanks for posting.

blomma

blomma
Wyoming, WY
(Zone 4a)

March 8, 2011
6:33 AM

Post #8414058

Crit, they sure beats trying to get seedling out of narrow bottles, etc. I did learn to place a brick or stone on the cover to prevent wind from loosing the cover. WY gets high winds.

They look nicer than a bunch of milk containers, plus they can be stacked to save space. Easier to store when not in use.

This message was edited Mar 8, 2011 7:37 AM
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 8, 2011
7:06 AM

Post #8414132

I also wondered about 'sterilizing' the containers, which I did not do. I just washed out the milk jugs and pop bottles good. I have some seedlings starting, but hope I didn't kill the others before they even got started!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2011
11:16 AM

Post #8414561

I've never sterilized ... just rinse with water, if they are nasty, like old milk, then i'll use a bit of soap.

I have my first sprouts today... YAY, Agastache Honey Bee White.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 8, 2011
5:23 PM

Post #8415269

Terese, you have sprouts already? I need to check my bottles. I'm still putting seeds out.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 8, 2011
6:39 PM

Post #8415454

Just the 1 Anita. and we really had not been warm. so i was surprised. mine are western exposure.. so they do get the afternoon sun.
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 9, 2011
1:22 PM

Post #8416801

Thanks for all the help on here! I just noticed my first sprout :0)
You'd think it was my firstborn the way I was so excited about it. lol
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 9, 2011
2:03 PM

Post #8416874

LoL what do you have that sprouted? I'm going to check my jugs right now.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 9, 2011
4:56 PM

Post #8417224

Hope your jugs are OK . ... lol
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 10, 2011
6:53 AM

Post #8418036

LoL the funniest thing happened. I went out to check my jugs and there was 1 missing! It was not out in th yard any place. My jugs are inside my fenced patio area. No one can see them. I came home one day and my gate was open. I know someone has been back there but I'm ot sure what they were looking for. Hopefully, I won't lose any more jugs!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 10, 2011
7:54 AM

Post #8418118

wow-- that is bizarre. hope it what ever it was, you have more seeds.

we have locks on our gates. having a treasured pooch, we never want to take any chances.
nohren4
Cowden, IL
(Zone 5a)

March 10, 2011
2:42 PM

Post #8418815

That is weird, you have a WS thief on the loose!
I thought it was kinda ironic my first sprout was in jug 1. I sowed 50 jugs at once so it wasn't out there longer or anything.
purple coneflower
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 11, 2011
3:11 AM

Post #8419637

Ive got 50 jugs out,no sprouts yet..waiting ,got 10 flats under lights,coleus is up and pansies,violas,petunias and snapdragons,next is alyssum and Lobelia..
6aseeder
Arlington, MA
(Zone 6a)

March 17, 2011
12:13 PM

Post #8432602

Mar 16 appearance, these things seeded Feb 13. all are fedco seeds

bok choy (2nd season)
various mild mustard greens (new)
Baby Bibb lettuce (2nd season)
blushed butter oaks lettuce (2nd season)
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 18, 2011
4:07 PM

Post #8435025

I had some dianthius and coreopsis sprout, then we had a cold snap and they all died. I'm hoping there are some more seeds that hadn't sprouted yet. I had 3 purple bean vine up when it froze, have had one more up since then. My pop bottles seem to be doing better than my milk cartons. I currently have nothing up in them ... but not giving up.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 19, 2011
3:48 AM

Post #8435867

i dont expect to see any sprouts yet ,still pretty chilly here.. =(

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 19, 2011
4:49 AM

Post #8435917

Tamara -- i think I'm up to 7 or so containers with seedlings... they are tiny - but they are up.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 19, 2011
1:10 PM

Post #8436577

No sprouts for me yet but I am waiting patiently

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 19, 2011
3:16 PM

Post #8436777

I've got 14 containers out of 70.

but 5 are poppies,
2 or 3 Agastaches
2 Daisyes
Ruds and Dianthus

i think those are all earlier germinaters.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 19, 2011
7:52 PM

Post #8437361

Maybe mine that haven't germinated yet still will. Crossing my fingers in hopes
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 20, 2011
3:09 AM

Post #8437658

Terese Im thinking about moving my jugs up to the garden to get more sun,they are only getting a few hrs of sun,they need a bit more I think.Yes I was wondering what would pop 1st .petunias are popping under lights,hoping they do well.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 20, 2011
5:50 AM

Post #8437834

Mine get warmer as they are western Exp [did i mention that yet] so from at least 1pm on, they are in blazing sun. closer to May, i have to put them in the shade or they dry out too fast.

blomma

blomma
Wyoming, WY
(Zone 4a)

March 20, 2011
7:44 AM

Post #8438065

Just a curious question. When the jugs are placed in the sun, don't the inside get too hot? Even in the winter, any closed space can get too hot.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 20, 2011
7:51 AM

Post #8438086

Mine have not yet been "hot" - not really even that warm... honestly, we have not had many sunny warm days. we have cool [40s] and sun, or clouds and 50s ... like i mentioned above... i dont have to get mine out of direct sun until May... i put them in an area where they get about an hour of noon sun and have my kid water them daily when i;m gone.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 20, 2011
9:10 AM

Post #8438220

I don't know what I am going to do with everything I sow. I had intended to put them in a new bed I'm going to make, but DH asked if we could put that off a while until we get some other things around here done. UGH!
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 20, 2011
2:01 PM

Post #8438727

Crit, may I ask why he wants to put off the new bed? If it's because of building the beds, have you tried lasagna gardening? I made several beds like that last year. You can layer the beds and plant right away. Are you planning to make raised beds?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 20, 2011
3:27 PM

Post #8438869

What is a lasagna bed?

It's because he wants me to get all the boxes out of the garage I haven't been through since we moved here in Dec '09. LOL It's a catch 22. I want shelving to put some of them on, and he can't do the shelving until I get the boxes out of the way. :-)
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 20, 2011
7:26 PM

Post #8439492

Lasagna gardening is a way of making beds without digging or tilling. I thought maybe your hubby was asking you to wait because it was so much work and time consuming. Here's a link http://ourgardengang.tripod.com/lasagna_gardening.htm

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 20, 2011
7:32 PM

Post #8439506

I have sprouts, too!

Agrostemma Githago
Aquilegia “Green Apples”
“Black Barlow”
Asperula orientalis
Brassica, Mizuna Green
Mizuna Red
Broccoli Calabrese
Broccolini
Kale, Winter Red
Kale, Lacinato
Calendula “Radio”
Centaurea-Dark Blue saved seed
Cerinthe Kiwi Blue-one seedling poking its head up!
Cosmos Limara Lemon
Cosmos Double Click
Cosmos Tall red/yellow/orange mix-saved seed
Larkspur-saved seed white and pink
Dianthus plumarius
Lettuce Seed Savers Exchange Mix
Lettuce Mascara
Lychnis viscaria-Catchfly
Matthiola bicornis

No poppies. Yet!
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 21, 2011
3:43 AM

Post #8439893

Thanks...may try that anyway.

I have poppies up!
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 21, 2011
6:59 AM

Post #8440246

going to move my jugs up to the garden for more sun ,mine are on the east side of the hous e,and are shaded quickly.Garden gets alot more sun ,then Ill move them back down in May an start splitting an potting up. not hot enough to do dammage here either,july it would cook them ...LOL

Ive got sprouts Holly Hock and Persian daisies
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
8:00 AM

Post #8440378

I don't have any sprouts!!!!! I'm so happy to hear about the sprouts everyone is getting but I want sprouts too! LoL

Huggergirl, you are so close that if you're getting sprouts, I should have some soon. Only delay, my jugs are on the north side of my house. So they may not be getting warmed too much.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2011
10:11 AM

Post #8440658

I'd say that's it Anita.

I got home some this morning... it's one of my new Penstemons, but have to look up which one. all i know it's Jug#3
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
10:32 AM

Post #8440698

LoL I took your advice from last year and numbered myu jugs as well. In the heat of WSing I did neglect numbering a few but most are numbered. I tried three of the Penstemon this year - Husker Red, a purple and I think another red variety.

I can hardly wait. Have you all ever planted anything in an eavesment? I plan to this year. the workers are alway leaving their trash and piling branches behind my shed. I am the person who always has to clean it up. I have a bicket full of junk the utlityworkers have left behind. I thought I was being nice by killing off the grass to make digging easier for them so now I think I need to plant some flower to let them know that area is cared for and maintained and is not a dump site so their trash.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 21, 2011
11:04 AM

Post #8440787

I would do it.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 21, 2011
4:29 PM

Post #8441429

moved them up to the garden ,Ill be seeing more sprouts soon..
diamond ,can you move them to the south or west,I would if you can.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
7:47 PM

Post #8441946

The south side is the front of my house and the west has another house within 10 ft and the east side is the side the entire neighborhood can see. they may not appreciate my jugs. LoL
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 21, 2011
8:07 PM

Post #8441993

I had to strategically place my jugs on my back deck so that the neighbors could'nt see them. I'd hate to get a nasty letter from the HOA. I can't wait till the trees leaf out to give the backyard more privacy. I've still got the annuals and vegetables to ws. I'm going to plant the growing poppies this weekend. Put down slug bait yesterday, so hopefully poppies will be safe from those slimy little mouths.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 21, 2011
9:18 PM

Post #8442097

My Hostas are always attacked by something hungry. I look for slugs and snails but I can never find them Is there another pests that eats Hostas? Rabbits?

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 22, 2011
3:33 AM

Post #8442325

rabbits never bother my hostas - and i've had them nest over there a few times.

i know deer think its a free salad bar, do you have deer issues?
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 22, 2011
3:42 AM

Post #8442338

Glad we dont have HOA to worry about out here ,although now everyone one who drives by can see my milk jugs setting in the garden,all 50 of them !!! They probly wonder whatt is she doing now...LOL If they come to the door then they are hit with the lights from my in house greenhouse !!! 18 flats under lights.

Ive never had trouble with slugs eating my hostas ,I have an abundance of chipmunks,they eat them..Yea (the slugs)



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tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 22, 2011
3:48 AM

Post #8442343

We have a HOA, but no one would complain about it... though i am glad i dont live next to the Pres of the HOA. but mine are all in my back yard.. .though I have had them on the side of the house before - where everyone could see.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 22, 2011
3:54 AM

Post #8442353

its not really that bad ..anyway..and they are gone in a short time. I talk to pipi21 and she has an awful time trying to hide stuff ??? Geez that would be awful... mine are all line up neat an tidy wouldnt that count..tidy..LOL
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 22, 2011
7:01 AM

Post #8442686

It must be slugs or chipmunks. we have a huge problem with chipmunks around here. They are too cute to kill and there's no humane way to get rid of them.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 22, 2011
10:19 AM

Post #8443009

chipmunks eat slugs is what I was trying to say.. LOL ..cant remember what was eating my mil hostas,dh put sevin dust on them ,it stopped the munching .
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 22, 2011
12:35 PM

Post #8443181

I may have to try the Sevin. I have been dusting with the Diatomaceous Earth. It hasn't stopped them from eating my lovely hostas. I think I have seen Sevin at the Dollar Store. I better snatch it up. It never lasts until the last of the gardening season.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 22, 2011
7:50 PM

Post #8444105

Now I'm going to have put out Sevin with the slug bait. The hosta's start out fine then wind up looking crazy before the season is over. The hummingbirds love the hosta blooms, does the Sevin treat the plant systemicallly or topically? I'd hate to harm the hummers. Annette

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diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 23, 2011
11:37 AM

Post #8445329

Annette is that your garden? I love it! It looks exactly the way I want my hosta garden to look! LoL I need to add some blooming shade lovers along with some colorful Coral Bells.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 23, 2011
7:30 PM

Post #8446306

that is a really pretty hosta. If you ever divide them, please keep me in mind. I would love to make some trades with you.
Maybe I need to use some of my tons of pine needles as mulch!
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 24, 2011
3:32 AM

Post #8446641

Sevin is powder ,Just dont get it on the blooms ,which should not be a problem.Good luck
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 24, 2011
6:12 AM

Post #8446914

you can also get it in liquid form and spray it on
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 24, 2011
6:21 AM

Post #8446927

Oh really? I have only seen the powder. Does the spray work better?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 24, 2011
8:25 AM

Post #8447161

It depends upon what you are using it on and if you want the white powder showing. I use the spray (which is liquid form and you mix it with water) to get into things like tomatoes, etc. I think they both work as well. The spray does leave a white residue, but not like the powder.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 24, 2011
9:57 AM

Post #8447321

That's exactly what I was thiking about that white powder. You use it because you want nice looking healthy plants. But it leaves all this powder which makes your garden look like it's infected with something serious. LoL
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 25, 2011
5:54 AM

Post #8448929

glad to hear there is a liquid,good FYI

I use a duster it poofs dust ,never looks bad,unless you gett heavy handed.Going to need a new one,hope I can find another i like as well.this one is a squeeze puffer..love it,you can puff under the plant,works great.

Anita ,cant wait to meet you,and go plant hunting..
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 25, 2011
6:03 AM

Post #8448945

Hugger, I'm looking forward to plant shopping with you as well. When does the nurseries open around here?
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 25, 2011
6:08 AM

Post #8448960

good question, I ll keep a look out. Have you lived here long Anita?
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 25, 2011
6:27 AM

Post #8449002

Yes, I have lived here for 40+ years. I would love to move some place where the weather is 70 - 80 degrees all year long (Hawaii). When I retire I may move to Charlotte if I can stand being away from my grandbabies.

What about you? CC has to offer the best of both worlds??? What type of dust applicator do you have? How easy is it to fill with product? I saw some at Lowes but they seemed pretty expensive. I can remember the old fashioned sprayers my grandmother had that was something like a pump action. How long does it last?
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 25, 2011
8:37 AM

Post #8449243

Saw on the news one of the local nursery's is having their spring opening tomorrow! Yea!
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 25, 2011
8:44 AM

Post #8449265

What time Crit? I'm off at 7pm. I can start heading that way!!!
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 25, 2011
8:53 AM

Post #8449279

LOL ... they open at 9 and are having drawings for $50-$500 gift certificates at 1:00. Have to be there to win. Hope DH will watch the DGD's so I can run in for an hour! :-) C'mon down! I have plenty of room!

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2011
7:03 PM

Post #8450479

its still too cold here for nurseries... probably mid-April. seems so far away.
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 25, 2011
7:13 PM

Post #8450504

something that helped my hostas was the round seed balls from the sweet gum tree. I hate them but put them around on the ground under the plants.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 26, 2011
5:09 AM

Post #8450914

cathy , those spiney things work really well thats great,they are knarly little things !!! I wouldnt crawl over them either.Neibor has 6-8 of those linning her drive,messy trees,but pretty..

anita ,my puffer is a canister -11high 4inches across,it contained Rose dust.
There is a plug in the bottom to refill it,its soft plastic,dont know what Im going to do when it dies !!! You just squeeze it,shake the can an squeeze,Itts wonderful.cause you can aim it under the plants,so the puff of powder wafts every where ,with out a heavy layer of powder.our fair little town used to be the nutts,Had all kinds of great stores ,not since walmart arrived .It is a very pretty little town ,new Schools ,no Shopping...
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 26, 2011
12:10 PM

Post #8451532

I am so lost as to what you are refering to. The round seed ball from the Gum tree. I will have to google the seeds. Inned a nice canister to store my Diatomaceous Earth in and a good method to apply it. It's harmful to your lungs to breathe too much of that stuff in.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 26, 2011
1:04 PM

Post #8451631

Yes Anita, they are spiny little critters (seed balls) The trees lose them (I believe) in the fall. You will probably recognize it when you see it.
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2011
4:03 PM

Post #8451926

In Missouri, they fall all year. One put me in the hospital when it attacked me walking into work; looked up one second to say hi to a friend and landed on my face the next. Tore my open the back slit of my dress up to my undies, sprained my ankle, skinned both palms so bad I couldn't use crutches. I really don't like them.

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cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 26, 2011
4:04 PM

Post #8451928

For the next few months, I found them everywhere at work, in my mailbox, drawers, painted gold and wrapped up at Christmas, lots of funny friends. :D
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 26, 2011
5:01 PM

Post #8452042

Wow Cathy! If they attacked you like that I can understand why the slugs are afraid of them.
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 26, 2011
8:33 PM

Post #8452491

Hey Diamond and Crit, yes that is my shade garden above is post 8444105. It was taken last Spring. The garden is just awakening now, and the hostas are already showing. I'm always happy to share plants. The hostas were bought here at a local nursery 6 yrs ago for $2-3 dollars per plant, and they've mulltiplied quickly.Unfortunately they're NOID. I'm going to plant some of my winter sown poppies in that bed as well, where I feel they'll do best with our GA heat. cathy4, now that I've wiped the tears from my eyes from laughing so hard after reading your post about THE ATTACK OF THE SWEETGUM SEED BALL, I wanted to say that I'm glad you fared well, after such a scary experience. I throw them back into the copse of trees behind my house all the time. Now thanks to your post, they'll be thrown into my hosta bed instead for slug prevention. I'll just have to make sure I don't step on any, falling would not be good since I've had 2 spinal fusions. Here's a picture of the shade garden taken today.

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Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 27, 2011
2:50 AM

Post #8452666

Cathy, if it makes you feel better, my dog stepped on a sour gum ball when she was a puppy, and she barked at them hatefully for about six months after.

It was 50-60's all last week, and now we're having a cold snap, it was in the 20's last night. All seedlings still happy and green. Whew!

Are there any perennial seedlings that you grow out in pots for awhile? I have some Aquilegia from Chiltern Seed, my WS aquilegia last year got overwhelmed by other plants in the bed.

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 27, 2011
5:19 AM

Post #8452766

for your NoID's... i'd say the big one up front is Frances Williams, next to it sure looks like June. The other 2, in the Undulata family. [they look familiar, but there are just so many in that class ... it's possible the gang in the hosta forum could ID them]
those are my best uneducated guesses.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2011
8:38 AM

Post #8453133

Cem...that garden is great! Since my yard is shade, shade and more shade, doppled shade/sun and a tiny bit of full sun, I'm always looking for great shade plants. I have a HUGE garden in my front yard that we made, that is hard clay that I have to add some good dirt to this summer, around the plants that survived planting last year. Then add more shade plants to let it fill in. Anything you have to share I would be glad to trade, purchase or pay postage on starts. I don't care if they are NOID's. TIA
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

March 27, 2011
11:21 AM

Post #8453469

Crit, sent you a D-mail. tcs1366,thanks for help with the NOID hostas. I'm going to add some of the winter sown poppies and foxgloves to this bed as well.

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tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 27, 2011
11:44 AM

Post #8453530

I've looked up a few images of "undulata mediovariegata"
[basically, twisted, lance-shaped leaves that have white centers and are edged in green]

yours looks a lot like
UndulataUnivittata
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/3714/
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 27, 2011
6:06 PM

Post #8454388

This may sound like a dum-dum ... but I have several of the jiffy trays with seeds popping up, but am also having some damping off. What is causing this, and what can I do about it. I left the lid on until most of the seeds had sprouted as directed, then propped it open for a couple days, then took it all the way off.
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 27, 2011
6:10 PM

Post #8454400

Try the peroxide/water mix, I've only had 1 plant damp off since using this mixture:
http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

March 27, 2011
8:14 PM

Post #8454757

Peroxide has been working for me, too. I've always been too generous with water so jumped on this tip when I read about it on one of the forums a few weeks ago. So far, perfect.

Another thing I started doing at the same time is a light dusting of cinnamon on all my flats and pots. I saw one gnat last week, realized I'd forgotten the cinnamon on a few things, dusted them and haven't seen any since.

The third tip for preventing damping off which I haven't needed because the others work so well, is watering with camomile tea. I'm not sure what the right strength is for that, but someone here will know, I'm sure.

Good luck! Pam
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

March 28, 2011
4:30 AM

Post #8455021

OK, thanks. I haven't watered them as they are still damp from the original water to expand the pellets, and I didn't want to overwater. Maybe I should of done this with the water I used at the very first.
I use cinnamon in my dirt, but didn't think to do it on the flats.
garyon
Syracuse, NY

March 28, 2011
5:07 AM

Post #8455132

sweet william has germinated
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

March 28, 2011
5:34 AM

Post #8455185

cinnamon for gnats ?? wow,i had a few they are gone now,cinnamon so simple.
ive got more sprouts,still really cold here,and going to be this week maybe this weekend we will get some warmth.
Was in the local resturant saw my neibor,I asked what they were up to,they are working on a fund raiser for the animal shelter,Plant sale,well looks like I will be donating as much as I can..good thing ive got 50 jugs sown...i over seeded Im sure, soo I will be able to split chunks up, and i will have plenty Im sure,need dirt tho

tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

March 28, 2011
6:40 AM

Post #8455364

garyon -- congrats on the SW babies.

we have been so cold again, i have not checked for seedlings in 4 days or so... just didnt think any new ones would be popping up... we are gradually warming up... should be low 40's by the end of the week. Bright and sunny today -- very deceiving.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 28, 2011
7:10 AM

Post #8455454

I didn't believe that the cinnamon would work, but it really does. I was amazed.
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2011
7:55 AM

Post #8455594

Explain how the cinnamon works.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 28, 2011
8:36 AM

Post #8455692

It's rather unscientific of me, but I don't know. Anecdotal experience, and while I know that the plural of anecdote is not evidence, it does seem to work. I'd like to know if it's bunk, and I've seen it argued pretty hotly both ways. Much like Superthrive, lol.
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

March 28, 2011
8:49 AM

Post #8455725

I agree...as long as it works, I don't really care why. But still, I am curious, so if someone posted a theory, I'd read it!

Maybe it's just the smell? Like some pests are put off by herbs?

Pam
cathy4
St. Louis County, MO
(Zone 5a)

March 28, 2011
8:53 AM

Post #8455733

That is what I used to tell my staff when I trained them on the computer - just accept that it works, let the computer geeks worry about why. I saw a few gnats in the little greenhouse, will have to head out with the cinnamon, I sure like using something so simple.

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 28, 2011
8:55 AM

Post #8455742

I do want to know how things work, but I also am not adverse to using something that works, even when I don't know why. I'm pretty sure I don't understand anything beyond the basic concept of why my TV works, but I don't not use it because of that.

(edited so as to make some sense)

This message was edited Mar 28, 2011 10:56 AM
diamond9192002
(Anita) Fort Wayne, IN
(Zone 6a)

March 28, 2011
7:20 PM

Post #8457261

I orded my question wrong. What I intended to ask was how is the cinnamon used?
Pfg
(Pam) Warren, CT
(Zone 5b)

March 28, 2011
7:29 PM

Post #8457292

I just sprinkle it on the soil. Still working on the perfect method. Sometimes from the shaker it goes on a little heavy/clumpy. Lately I've been shaking it onto my palm and taking pinches with the other hand. So far I haven't killed any seedlings, so I figure it doesnt need to be an exact science. Other ideas, anyone?

Pam
bluegrassmom
Lewisburg, KY
(Zone 6a)

March 29, 2011
3:22 AM

Post #8457658

Contact, me please if I owe you a trade. I think I have sent everyones out.
Thanks,
Teresa

Celene

Celene
Columbus, OH

March 29, 2011
5:29 AM

Post #8457834

I use a powdered sugar shaker and the cheapest dollar store cinnamon I can find.
Crit
Sand Springs (Tulsa), OK
(Zone 7a)

April 3, 2011
11:24 AM

Post #8468981

I just HAVE to show you all this WONDERFUL box of goodies I got for my shade garden from Annette, CEM9165. This was MORE than I ever expected for my shade garden. Can you tell, I'm THRILLED??????

Thank you, thank you Annette. This is GREAT!

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tcs1366

tcs1366
Itasca,IL&Lk Delton, WI
(Zone 5a)

April 3, 2011
12:37 PM

Post #8469107

looks like a nice assortment.

DG friends are just the most generous.
huggergirl
Columbia City, IN
(Zone 5b)

April 4, 2011
6:02 AM

Post #8470703

WOW nice ...generous is right
Cem9165
Duluth, GA
(Zone 7b)

April 4, 2011
10:26 AM

Post #8471263

You're welcome Crit. Enjoy, Annette

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